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Latitude E6400/6410 internal minicard connectors bootable?

Discussion in 'Dell Latitude, Vostro, and Precision' started by der_brennesel, Apr 11, 2010.

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  1. der_brennesel

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    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    Almost 100% sure that the slots aren't bootable on the E6400. I don't see reason why they'd change that on the E6410, either. You can always try and tell us how it goes, though :)
     
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    Two of those slots appear to be for half-height cards but the WWAN slot (in the front left corner) appears to be full height. I think it is unlikely that the D6400 would boot from one of those slots.

    The E6410 is slightly different because it supports Latitude On which, I assume, is a bootable mini-card.

    John
     
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    i hope that you are right; my le6410 comes as a "latitude on" ready system and the latitude on upgrade is 40€ which suggests that it isn't just a lame additional software layer and makes use of some dedicated hardware; i'll report back once my new notebook arrives and keep you guys up to date ;)
     
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    You can understand how Latitude On works by studying the documentation of the E4300. As I understand it, it has an ARM CPU on a little card.

    It is an option worth exploring. However, if it is easy to implement booting the computer off a mini-card SSD then I'm surprised that Dell doesn't offer this as an option.

    John
     
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    i guess that they want to set the latitude prant below the precision brand as the M4500 (based on the e6510??) offers a 64gb ssd minicard as an option :(
     
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    Wait wait, the Latitude On card (at least on the E4300) isn't based off of a mini PCIe card. I wouldn't think this would be different on the E6410 either...

    http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/late4300/en/sm/lat-on.htm#wp1186516
     
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    from my under standing there are 3 versions of latitude on.
    1. Latitude on Reader ( software boot enviroment simular to media direct)
    2. Latitude on Flash (Uses computers proc, memory and has own storage)
    3. latitude on full (SELF CONTAINED ARM, MEMORY, STORAGE)
     
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    Look at http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=6150859 - seems that in E6410 the "latitude ON flash" is just a flash mini-pcie ssd, and the latitude-on OS is actually booted from there, if you press the designated button. I wonder only if one can hack it and have his own disk image there. Maaany cooool things could be done with it....
     
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    Additional confirmation in Jeff Avery's blog (with photos): http://blog.jeffavery.com/?p=117.

    Short: Chris Compson is right about 3 versions of Latitude On. "L-on Flash" is a bootable module. There are some strange compatibility problems (cannot have L-on Flash together with WWAN).

    My additional findings from photos and partnumbers etc.: L-on Flash is a custom built module from Smart Modular Technologies . Their profile is very close to this product, but there is no hint about its parameters (this is a custom module, anyway). It is probably not a full SSD, but rather an USB drive - as it is based on PHISON's PS2251-33 USB-to-Flash micro-controller ( see www.phison.com). The controller is "smart" enough (e.g. there is 80C51 clone on-board), so DELL may make it very hard to use in a nonstandard way. The other way up: Dell may have used it in a nonstandard way themselves to make it harder for us:). We shall see.
     
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