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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware 15 R3 Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by katalin_2003, Oct 24, 2016.

  1. leeloyd

    leeloyd Notebook Consultant

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    That's what i have chosen. As I play with a VR headset most of the time, i don't need better screen for just ...monitoring.

    I saw HWInfo monitoring fan speed in iunclock's screenshots. You should ask him.
     
  2. zeroibis

    zeroibis Notebook Consultant

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    6820+ normal panel does not exist either, you are forced to get it with the UHD (3840 x 2160) IGZO IPS Anti-Glare 300-nits Display. At least in the USA if you want a 6820 your only option is with the 4k panel.
     
  3. J.Dre

    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Any particular reason why we cannot configure the GTX 1070 with the 120hz G-Sync display? Out of stock?
     
  4. antero

    antero Notebook Enthusiast

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    In Europe its available :)

    Processor

    Intel® Core™ i7-6820HK Processor (Quad-Core, 8MB Cache, Dynamically Overclocked up to 4.1GHz )
    LCD 15.6 inch FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS Anti-Glare 300-nits Display
     
  5. ThatOldGuy

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    If you are not going to overclock, the 6700 is fine
     
  6. wickette

    wickette Notebook Deity

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    I already have a good heater for my apartment, no need for a 6820HK.
     
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  7. zeroibis

    zeroibis Notebook Consultant

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    or under volt, or hold onto your laptop for a long time.

    Good to know, maybe we will see it in the states in a few weeks then.
     
  8. GTO_PAO11

    GTO_PAO11 Notebook Deity

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    I returned my New AW 15. Although the temps were ok, it has light bleed. I'll just wait for my refund and get the New AW 17 with 1080 GTX.

    Shame, I was looking into the new AW 15......
     
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  9. Maineiac12

    Maineiac12 Notebook Evangelist

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    I would assume so, but it is still available for sale in other countries so who knows. I ordered that config a week ago and it just shipped yesterday.
     
  10. Kyle English

    Kyle English Notebook Consultant

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    Yea was available last Thursday but yesterday it was not available. My company has to order it through dell and the cs rep said not avail. So I'm getting the 1060. Oh well.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  11. improwise

    improwise Notebook Deity

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    Is that the 120 hz sceen or just the ordinary FHD?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  12. improwise

    improwise Notebook Deity

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    Might have been posted already but Lisa at Mobile Tech Review has reviewed the AW 15 R3 now:

     
  13. antero

    antero Notebook Enthusiast

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    That's the ordinary. Planning to grab one with same specs for myself :) 120hz is available only with 6700HQ
     
  14. Twentynine29

    Twentynine29 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Do you worry about the heat it cause with 6820?
     
  15. improwise

    improwise Notebook Deity

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    So, when are we expected to be able to download GPU drivers directly from Nvidia?

    Edit:

    Seems like we already can, but Nvidias GeForce Experience didn't find the latest drivers. Kind of bad.
     
  16. antero

    antero Notebook Enthusiast

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    Little bit yes, but new paste and little tweaking should fix that? At least it should be more future proof.
     
  17. Twentynine29

    Twentynine29 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I hope so, I'll be purchasing tomorrow before the discount end. Taking the spec same as you mentioned. I'm going to buy corsiar 16GB Ram and Samsung 960 pro to upgrade
     
  18. improwise

    improwise Notebook Deity

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    Does the Dell/Alienware Update program EVER find any updates? Seems like its still a joke...
     
  19. antero

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    Same here :D
     
  20. CarbonTwelve

    CarbonTwelve Notebook Consultant

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    You keep recommending that, but you simply can't get the 6820HK with G-Sync screen. The motherboards for it simply don't exist.

    The 6700HQ can also be undervolted. As for holding onto it for a long time, I'm fairly confident the 6700HQ will still be capable enough for gaming in 5 years time (assuming it's running at 3.1GHz). Ie, the GPU will be holding things back long before the CPU will.
     
  21. Twentynine29

    Twentynine29 Notebook Enthusiast

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    The 6700HQ can also be undervolted. As for holding onto it for a long time, I'm fairly confident the 6700HQ will still be capable enough for gaming in 5 years time (assuming it's running at 3.1GHz). Ie, the GPU will be holding things back long before the CPU will.[/QUOTE]


    Well, do you think 6700 can support Aw amprifier and external monitor?
     
  22. Lancer91

    Lancer91 Notebook Consultant

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    Ordered 15r3 on 11/4 and getting 11/9. I7-6700hq, 1060, 1080p, 256ssd, 16gb. Need to update the sig I guess. Will hand over my 2014 aw17 to my wife. I just hope the machine plays BF1 on ultra at over 60fps as shown. I can tell you Alienware lowered my price because Best Buy has a 17 on sale with a 1070 for 1699. So Alienware lowered my price to what a MSI with comparable specs... so I'm very happy. I just hope it doesn't overheat on day 1. I plan to game hard on this BF1 style... I am curious how much the 1060 can be overclocked before it begins to thermal regulate. Any idea yet from anyone? What about the 1070?
     
  23. CarbonTwelve

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    Yes. Here's someone running the external amplifier with 6700HQ on the AW15R2:


    Don't get me wrong; if the 6820HK was an option with the G-Sync panel I'd absolutely be going for that, and it's obviously going to provide more longevity. However I believe the 6700HQ will still be good enough in 5 years time; as in, you're still going to be able to play the latest games without the CPU severely throttling the GPU.
     
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  24. Kyle English

    Kyle English Notebook Consultant

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    Nice I got the same setup coming with 120 hz screen. Added 1 yr premium and accidental service just in case something happens with the heating stuff.

    I'm at $1850 through my company premier. What was yours?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  25. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Fully aware that Clevo pushes out warped/uneven heatsink :) But I don't think the number is as highly as with the last AW models. Alienware is known for good QC on their heatsink. Why this now happened such a change... Is quite remarkable. How much of the new machines has really good low maximum temperature? The number of machines with good max temp can't be many. Low TDP processors tested in Alienware, push 30-45W in test and reach 90-100C is rather extreme. You agree with me that this is unacceptable? This applies of course all brand :cool:
     
  26. GTO_PAO11

    GTO_PAO11 Notebook Deity

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    I sent back my laptop to AW to opt for refund instead. I am not happy about temps and light bleed. Sigh.....

    I'll try my luck on the AW17

    Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
     
  27. Phaelen

    Phaelen Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well I got my 15 R3 with the 6700HQ and 120Hz panel.

    I ran OCCT bone stock and this is the result:

    upload_2016-11-8_20-55-0.png
     
  28. calvinstone

    calvinstone Notebook Guru

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    Does the 120hz fhd panel of aw 15 has the same banding issues like the 1440p 120hz aw 17 panel ?
     
  29. Phaelen

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    I think someone else pointed out that the banding issue seems to be on the 1440p aw 17 panel. I see no banding thus far but I also haven't run any tests on the panel.
     
  30. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Hello everyone.

    Repost from this thread.

    ***News Flash!***
    (No not about the elections ROFL.)

    Hey guys, hope everyone is having a good evening on election day ROFL...anyhow I am right smack in the middle of another repaste of an AW15R3 and guess what....

    I just had to bring this to you guys LIVE as I couldn't resist waiting until I was done so here it is....the proof that supports my original theory of the heat sink being uneven due to the screws holes on one side of the mobo being lower than the other and/or the lack of another screw on that end to provide more pressure to hold that side down evenly with the other side.

    I've used some high end pressure paper...(This stuff is expensive.) Commercial grade stuff...

    - And guess what? It so happens to be conveniently on the side of the CPU where there is only one screw whereas on the other side there are two screws LOL. Coincidence? I don't know...let's ask a chimpanzee. :p Not rocket science.

    So guys...there ya go...non-mystery solved. It's not the 6820HK...

    This unit also has a core differential of 30C! I just ran a bunch of stock benches to collect my initial data, which I do on all machines that I work on before performing the repaste. I'll report back with the post repaste temps when finished.

    Hope this helps those of you with the 15, sleep at night..

    Bottom line. Let Dell to take care of this issue. As I've said before, the ONLY reason you would want to keep your unit is if you have a nice silicon and ONLY then would you want to give it the time of day to fix the issue on your own. Otherwise you're just doing an injustice to the situation that is factually common and evident among many many 15 owners. ie.....raise havoc to Dell! Demand. Not ask. This is an issue that they need to fix! Not us the owners...Fair is fair guys...simple as that. This type of QC issue should not exist in a $2000-$3000 machine. It's obviously the QC issue overseas and the poor work that is being done there. Maybe Dell needs better management, an eagle eye on these works and to switch up the thermal paste. Everything else is beautiful...the machine is great, but the some of the things under the hood makes a great machine crumble.
    Foundation is key and having good thermal paste along with a flush heat sink -> die to dissipate this heat is obviously important.


    Hope this helps...

    It's obvious that it's cooking under there...look at that...
    [​IMG]

    See those bubbles?! Air bubbles / pockets from the stock paste or any paste = NO GOOD! HEAT!
    [​IMG]

    Laying down the pressure paper...
    [​IMG]

    See how much darn pressure is on one side? Just crazy... (This is the CPU side.)
    [​IMG]

    Evidence that the heat sink is uneven. Look at what side the pressure (red area) on the GPU is...yup... Also, the GPU has way more tolerance than the CPU although it is uneven like this, which is why the GPU temps aren't really an issue with a good repaste.
    [​IMG]

    Plus look at them grooves on the CPU side of the heat sink! SMH ...This is why I lap the heat sink. Yes really... :)
    [​IMG]
     
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  31. calvinstone

    calvinstone Notebook Guru

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    @iunlock

    Had to ask this will u make a disassembly guide for 15 r3 too just like the one u made for 17r4 ?

    Are u using fujifilm pre scale the pressure paper ?
     
  32. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Yes, I have tons of pics of the 15R3 from my current repastes along with those from @mobile 1 so those will go up on the OP soon. The tear down is pretty identical to the 17R4. Almost 1:1. I have both ff and pressurex.
     
  33. raiden87

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    @iunlock what where ur exact things u did against that uneven heatsink?
     
  34. Kwono1

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    Hey guys,

    I was wondering if I could have a little help with a recent Alienware 15r3 purchase.
    on November 2nd, I purchased an Alienware 15r3 and it is set to arrive either tomorrow or the following day. Having read all these issues, I am wondering on what I should do. Is this screw issue an inherent design flaw that is affecting ALL Alienware 15r3 laptops? Should I even bother opening it?

    I bought the 120ghz panel, with the GTX 1070, and upgraded 16gb 2667 ram if that helps?

    Cheers,
    Dan
     
  35. WillTC

    WillTC Newbie

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    Greetings,

    I have returned my 15R3 with 4K panel (order date October 10th) due to the severe bleeding issues on the lower right part of the screen. I've had Dell replace the screen, but the problem persisted. In the end I got fed up with the bad tech support and issued a return. Can anyone here confirm they fixed this issue now? I'm considering buying the same setup again with the discount, but want to make sure I get a 100% ok unit.

    Thanks in advance,

    Will
     
  36. CarbonTwelve

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    No, they definitely haven't. And to be honest, I doubt they will; the light bleeding is a consistent issue with IPS panels, particularly in laptops, and it seems in particular the 4K panels are more susceptible to it. It comes from having too much pressure when the panel is glued in, which is obviously something that they could improve, but given it's been a common issue in laptops for years, and they still haven't fixed it, I doubt they'll fix it any time soon.

    Basically, at no point is there ever going to be a 100% guarantee it'll be ok.
     
  37. WillTC

    WillTC Newbie

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    Thanks for your swift response, this particular issue isn't about the issue with IPS panels in laptops, but seems to be caused by the bezel and not the screen.
    When Dell replaced the screen the first time the engineer checked it with the bezel off and the panel itself was 100% ok. But when he put the bezel back on, the lower right end of the screen had the bleed showing again. Hence it seems to be a (really stupid) mannufactoring error.
     
  38. CarbonTwelve

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    That's basically what I'm saying; IPS panels have an issue where pressure at the edge (caused by attaching it to the bezel; whether that's by gluing or by clamping with a screw mount) causes light bleed. All IPS panels do this, so it's not really a manufacturing error, it's just how the panels work. Less pressure will mean less light bleed, if you can achieve that with the laptop's mounting system.
     
  39. Twentynine29

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    I have placed my order, now just waiting for the confirmation. I've contacted too many times to Dell online chat and they said my name have been mentioned at there I think they gonna band me someday LUL btw I was just asking about the spec. Well anyway good luck for my little cutie new laptop. Hope everything will be fine.
     
  40. decca

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    My 15 R3 has just arrived. There is no light bleed.
     
  41. WillTC

    WillTC Newbie

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    Just to be sure: this is with the 4K panel? ;-)
     
  42. decca

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    No, the FHD IPS panel.
     
  43. astec23

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    are the units recently shipped with 6700HQ still having isssues? i plan on buying one.
     
  44. stcv3

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    What is considered good CPU temp for 6700HQ? Mine's around 50 on boot and going up to 75-85(85 on core 0 only) running OCCT for an hour.
     
  45. Maineiac12

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    Wow! When was that machine built/shipped?
     
  46. ex-28

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    is there a huge difference between the ips and the g-sync ? my current setup is in my sig getting it replaced due to back light bleed but considering going to the g-sync enabled with same setup.
     
  47. improwise

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    There must be a way to monitor the fanspeeds on this computer?? Have tried both HWInfo and SpeedFan and neither seem to be able to show fan info for the AW15 R3.
     
  48. Colonel Panic

    Colonel Panic Notebook Guru

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    Dell have just confirmed my replacement due to light bleed on the 4K screen and have been nice enough to double my RAM for free (8gb to 16gb, I asked them nicely). Lets just hope this one has no light bleed and stable CPU temps!
     
  49. severous

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    I receive my aw15r3 today.
    1070/6700hq/1080p IPS

    Massive Light bleed
    [​IMG]
     
  50. stcv3

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    That almost looks like mine that I received yesterday. Keep in mind the grey-ish spots on top are something related to IPS screens. It only shows on images on certain angles.

    I guess you're asking for an exchange?
     
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