*OFFICIAL* Alienware 15 R3 Owner's Lounge

yep same CPU, does anyone know what m.2s alienware uses? I have the 850 pro I wonder if i can raid them being different brands.

 

I have the 256GB one in mine, and its model is THNSN5256GPUK. Toshiba XG3.

 

So I played Witcher 3 and guess what, after every 6 to 8 mins, my laptop shuts down. I'm going to call tech support.

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have you tried undervolting the cpu?

 

How u do that?

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Gpu Die is bigger than Cpu. Aka easier to cool. And processors have always needed better thermal paste than graphics. Graphics is easier to tame with a medium quality thermal paste Or with a bad paste job.

 

download a program called intel xtu, and change the core voltage, start at -100mv and work your way down by 10s. I got my last laptop to -155mv stable and the cpu dropped 10 degrees

 

My 6700K clocked at 6820HK speeds.. is guess what.. same exact wattage or less (with an undervolt). Cool stuff. Desktop CPU to bga mobile CPU is actually apples to apples (when you're comparing same generation CPUs), they will all pull the same exact wattage at specified clockspeeds. Imagine that. Also go visit the link in my sig if you want to see 6700K temps in a 15" laptop and then come tell me our temps are fake.

 

Thank you so much for letting us know the model of the 120hz panel.. now I can finally go on the hunt for this panel

And I hope you get your high temps squared away..

 

I am done with papusan hahaha i am not going to argue with you

I believe that it have good temps .. but 20°C is impossible without extra help of a cooling stand + really good ambient temps
the thing is that he hates bga ... but the funny thing is that his full upgradable MXM is thing of the past hahaha he cant upgrade the gpu anymore ...
in fact the ALienware graphics amplifier is more portable than his 2 X 330W adapters

 

Yeah, If you prefer to downclock to BGA clockspeed, you can easily do that(for max portability on the road). But with desktop Cpu you can as well clock easily up to 4.8-4.9 GHz for more power!! The difference between BGA vs. LGA in laptops is use of iGPU (who can lower the total power usage). But I can't stand this crap from Intel.

@judal57 If I want, I can easily plug in eGPU with better desktop graphics. Maybe you don't know that? And you probably don't know I can upgrade to internal 1070 as well. I don't want to be stuck with a low powered i7. Maybe other want lower power from processor, because this is what you get with soldered i7.
And Kaby lake is on the way. You can't even change the motherboard with the new i7, if you have the older ECHO models.

Edit. BTW I don't need to use 2x 330w. More for Benching!! I have single graphics.

 

Not trying to argue.. And i'm not a BGA hater by any means - just making it clear that having a desktop CPU in a laptop doesn't mean you're forced to sacrifice anything. I can literally turn my 6700K into a 6700HQ on the fly and it draws the same wattage. Therefore the battery life would match a 6700HQ machine. The MSI GT62VR is a 6700HQ powered machine of which the MSI 16L13 is the same chassis notebook but with a LGA slot and since i've owned both the 6700HQ GT62 and now the 16L13.. I achieve the same exact battery life. Secondly, most desktop powered notebooks aren't forcing their owners to repaste, unlike how it's now REQUIRED to repaste the Alienware..

 

Correct, thats why I chose LGA 6700k.. I love the flexibility to be cold running at lower clocks or go full beast mode on AC power. Plus like I always say, it's easier to work upwards and downwards on a CPU that already has a super high native clockspeed such as the 6700K. When you're stuck with a 6820HK that is made to run at 3.2ghz across four cores.. It's not going to be easy getting to 4ghz if you didn't win the silicon lottery.

Edit: Also, my 6700K will do 4ghz at 1.06volts.. What does it take a 6820HK to get to 4ghz? Clearly more than 1.06 volts. Point in case how it's better to work with a CPU that designed to operate at your desired clock speed then try to force a Ferrari engine in a Honda Civic.

 

@Diversion
i was seeing your machine ... beautifull machine, good made, not as other undesire big cheap plastic boxes ...
i also have a good friend with an msi too, i love the turbo fan mode button ( really useful ). For example in the new alienwares, i dont like the lights on the corners ... because i am assuming that are made of resin, and i know that with time the resins become yellow. and they lost a little bit of premium look. looks great with lights on ! but with lights turned off hummm maybe not.

 

Have Dellienware finally made an app in their ACC software so you can adjust the fan speed manually or on the fly with a simple key stroke? Or are these new Aw models still depending on 3rd party software such as Hwinfo (as always before)? Most of ODM / OEM laptop models have such software + a simple key combination for maximum fan speed. Is it true that none AW models need such features?

 

So you mean they banned the 6820 on all models?

 

Wow, they are giving free upgrades or what?

 

Alienware uses the Toshiba nvme XG4 (non-SED series) with read speed 1250, write 580 for the 512gb model.
This being an nvme and the 850 pro being sata, you cant raid them.

 

Well, just finished repasting my AW15, and the results are not good. It was only old paste I had lying around, but it would've still been better than the gunk it comes with, so I think there's something genuinely wrong with my laptop (beyond just bad paste). I haven't heard of other people having a 6700HQ throttle so bad (hits 90+C within a few seconds then drops to 2.6-2.7GHz, both before and after repaste), and whilst it's possible the paste I used is no good (or my application of the paste was no good) the GPU seems happy enough with it, sitting at just 69C after 10 mins of OCCT GPU burn.

 

My A15 1070 remained between 60 and 70 degrees while running heaven on 4k/ultra on stock paste.
I hope you don't mind when I say these results are terrible. Which paste are you using and how old is it, it might be a bit dried out already.

 

They are back up now they took them down for a couple days.

 

Whoops I have the 950 pro.

 

Repasting with at least GC Extreme, Kryonaut or IC Diamond is a must, as well as undervolting to keep CPU temps at a considerable (low) level. Same goes with GPU regarding repasting.

@iunlock had shown impressive results after tweaking his new AW 17 and P775DM2 accordingly.

 

Anyone on here have the 512 m.2 from aw that would trade for a 512 950 pro. I'm OCD and would like matching drives.

 

I ran the SAME undervolt with throttlestop compared to XTU and max temp after one hour of witcher 3 : 80°C and with XTU : 84°C...i think XTU wasn't always applying the UV

 

XTU is dynmaic , so when the clocks rise the voltage will also.

 

well yeah, XTU like throttlestop set an adaptative undervolt by applying constantly an offset so V = x - undervolt where x is like you said dynamic but the undervolt is constant, I really think XTU was bugging or something like that.

 

Can you guys give me XTU settings? In fact, I do not know how to use it. Please help me undervolt it so it can have good temps.

Also, my system does not crash down anymore. This time, CPU runs up to 99 degrees playing Witcher 3.

 

I uninstalled my XTU . NEVER have both ThrottleStop and Intel XTU installed, that's @Mr. Fox 's advice so it can only be good.

Use throttlestop instead and follow the throttlestop guide here
Undervolting can be done in the FIVR panel of throttleStop.

please be cautious , you're playing with your laptop's CPU voltage.

Should look like that : select ADAPTATIVE But DO NOT apply my undervolt, start with -50mV and decrease each time by -10mV and test using a x264 encoding test or any serious stress test. Each CPU die will react differently to undervoltage. Do the same in parallel for the CPU Cache if the CPU Core has -50mV apply the same to the cache and test. (To change use the FIVR control located to the right of the performance panel)


Don't forget that on the throttlestop main panel you'll have to click on save and TURN ON to activate the undervolt.

Be extra cautious DO NOT accidentally overvolt that's dangerous, test the stability of your system with your final undervolt : i let witcher 3 run ultra for 2 hours.

If you see freezing, bsod etc, then it's not stable. Good luck .

 

I'm new to this. Where exactly on that screenshot do I change the settings?

 

I never used throttlestop before, just learned the basics today, i looked at the notebookreview throttlestop guide linked above and saw that, just follow the part where the guy actually undervolt, don't touch the prochot settings etc :


Good luck, and tell us where your temps are post undervolt.

 

Doesn't make a difference, two models can be combined in raid iff they are exactly the same.
And raid will decrease the life span of your ssd to half of it. And it will drastically increase the mean error time.

Why on earth would you need to raid a nvme ssd (with 2500 rsp) , just for games (even for the os),
In a world where the ps4 comes with 5.4k hdd.

 

You have to repaste again, with a better paste.
If you think its a hardware problem, then you should use liquid metal.

 

You gotta repaste dude

 

Rather return it to tech support. If it's a hardware problem, you shouldn't do a half way fix!!

 

That's the plan.

 

Has anyone here been able to solve the flickering issues with the 15 120Hz ?

 

I have a need, a need for speed...lol Just thought it would be nice to see some boot times and game load times with it. I have never had a problem with errors when I raid.

 

It's under investigation by Dell and Nvidia .
"As for the flickering, we know the event which causes the issue and we're working with Nvidia.."

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According to dell regarding thermal shutdowns :

(aw_umar , this guy is very active and always here to help, that's really cool, thumbs up)

"here's a BIOS on Arena that remedies the shutdowns. The overheating is a false event from TurboBoost"

Can someone explain to me that more precisely ...maybe faulty temps reported or what ?

 

I just hope they realize the gfx is almost unusable for any 3d at this moment, and no, I'm not exaggerating.

 

I just hope they realize the gfx is almost unusable for any 3d at this moment, and no, I'm not exaggerating.

edit: Im sorry for the double. My internet sucks.

 

so i went to get my ram and m.2 out of the laptop the tech broke and saw that the tech plugged the power cable in backwards. the blue piece that is for support was plugged. Laptop is booted up but the left side usb doesnt work and the keyboard doesnt light up. he did repaste it with the kryonaut, idle temps are 35 cpu 40 gpu.

 

do u have a gsync display and if so u check if optimus is there or manual option for switching to igpu in bios or fn+f7 works ???

 

this is with the stock 8gb ram, GPU was+200 clock +400 clocks max temp was 72c, CPU was stock clocks and -150mv max temp 80c. Not bad even thought the computer is broke lol. I had the tech put some kryonaut on there before he broke it all. Its a crappy paste job by him but, it did drop the cpu to 80 instead of 93. WOW they are both at low 50s gaming.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15708107

 

i dont have the gsync panel. sorry

 

@quickie its okay

anyone having a gsync display can u pls check if optimus is there or manual option for switching to igpu in bios or fn+f7 works ???

 

Doesnt work at this stage, though I see no reason why it can't be disabled at the bios level so it could be implemented in the future.

 

As an update to my AW15's 6700HQ thermal troubles, I was playing around a bit more with it this morning and I noticed that when it throttled the CPU package power was up to 55W. I don't have a lot of experience with these CPUs, but that surely isn't right?

I downloaded Intel XTU and have been playing with the CPU voltage offset and found that it seems perfectly stable even at -0.2V. CPU package is down to 37W, and no more throttling with the temps not reaching 80C (average is ~68C). Is it possible something has gone wrong to cause the stock voltage to be too high? What is the voltage supposed to be? HWiNFO is reading Core VID around 0.92V atm (with the -0.2V override).

Edit: Someone just mentioned the new BIOS which I had forgotten about. I thought it was only to fix the 6820HK voltages, but I'm going to download it and try it out.

Can confirm it does not work, but I don't believe it ever will. My understanding is that the G-Sync laptops have a different motherboard to the non-G-Sync ones. This allows the G-Sync motherboard to have the display connected directly to the GPU, where the other motherboards have it connected to the integrated graphics. This also explains why you can't configure the 6820HK with the G-Sync display; they simply haven't built G-Sync motherboards with the 6820HK.

 

Okay how is the battery life on gsync panels, net browsing and microsoft word basically office kinda stuff also does the aga works fine with no optimus as i read somewhere it needs igpu to route to graphics to internal display ???

 

Question. Where is the service manual for the New Alienware 15?