*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

i wouldn't even consider 51M because it's marketed as a gaming laptop. Your best bet would be a workstation with a Quadro or Firepro based GPU. If you just want to make some calculations a geforce card is enough, but as soon as you step in to the territory of heavy compute task the geforce fails cause it's made to calculate fast, not accurate. Doing for example fluid simulation on your rtx 2080 would only kill the card (and produce some erratic numbers due to the missing error correction) not to mention the lack of view-port wire-frame rendering and double-sided polygon rendering, or double precision float computations.

I would skip a gaming machine that's going to be used for heavy compute. As they're not created for heavy compute (that's where render farms have been created for) only fast compute (like drawing polygons and tesselation for example).

 

Just repasted my CPU with Liquid Ultra and GPU with IC Diamond.

CPU Temps dropped by 8C compared to the stock Dell Thermal Paste.



@Papusan @ssj92 @iunlock @VoodooChild

 

Decided to stop by and post that my unit is currently in production. Been wanting something to replace the four year old P870DM-G.

Returned the MSI GS65 due to not behaving the way I wanted it to and decided battery life I will do the same I always been lugging these things around.

 

Most gaming laptops will crap out or give worse performance. You're better off building a desktop. Deep neural network and other advanced algorithms might not even be fast enough on laptops.

 

I'd *never* do this unless the laptop was never going to leave the desk. Once this thing spills, it's barbecue time. Delid the cpu instead with some conductonaut and go the happy kryonaut route. I've resealed mine with rtv silicon sealant so everything is safe and cool.

 

Anyone know how long would it take for the refund from dell? I was assured by customer care it will be done in 5-7days but the guys from teachnical support said it would take 3-4weeks. I also strong disagree with the one said clevo is cheaply. The look may be but the service and components they provided are no joke. All the service from dell just a joke. From customer care to sales and technical support are full of lazy bugs.

 

I've LM my laptop since last year october and have been using it since (including flying).

No problems whatsoever (and without a foam dam just scotch 33+ tape)

 

erhh, I've done it to every laptop I've owned since 5 years and I take my laptop with me every where. So does @Papusan and @Mr. Fox

It's those who don't know what they're doing that have issues

 

I don't like pushing my luck that far.

 

What with the heatsink? Need Liquid metal there as well. + no need to put LM the whole way out to the bitter edge.

You said bare die and Liquid metal all around.

 

Get away from dell. Get a refund . If you called the on-site repairs, yes they will come . But if they can’t fix it , they won’t send another tech to support. And you will wait more than a month to get your laptop back. I had this before so I can tell you you would highly possible have been through same things as me

 

Thanks for the responses! One of you mentioned killing the video card...I see that has been a problem with this computer, so I guess it's good that it's not suitable for what I want it to do, anyway. Hope they fix that!

Thinking I'll have to go "luggable", like a Spark or something similar. And I thought Alienware/Eurocom was going to be expensive! But at least the Spark would be fully ugradeable with all desktop components, including the motherboard - which would be a cost savings over having to buy a new laptop every few years - at least in the long term.

 

I gave up on the direct dye idea because there is a z-height issue with this heat sink. I tried that but it pushes against the components around the cpu leaving no room for themal pads. And I originally meant to go direct dye only for the GPU anyway as it could be guarded with a barrier. But it's fine now with the new heat sink with max temps at 81 degrees with mx4 (i saved kryonaut for the final installation after everything is fixed and used some leftover mx4 for now).

 

Congrats, you’ll be amazed by the build quality and performance of this machine

 

Refund and choose other brand with better support . Dell will send tech first time but if they could not solve it, you will have to send it back which you will wait for at least a month. And their support just barely exists when you want expeditions or update. After I had horrible experience with their customer care , I requested a refund the day after I got the huge delayed order. I paid $7000 Australia dollars for my 51m and confirmed twice with them my cpu is 9700 but what I have is 8700 and they refused to provide any exchange and solution. Dell is the most horrible customer care service I had. F dell!!!!

 

There is no brand with *better* support. It just depends upon your personal experience and they're more or less all the same. You really have to get on their nerves to get them to do the right thing otherwise lazy slobs are everywhere who just sit on emails dragging everything down.

 

How did you feel about applying LM yourself? Didn't LM reduce the temps by 10-15C at 5GHz all cores?

 

Why? I have always several tubes high quality thermal paste + more liquid metal lying.

 

Have you ever tried RAZER support? I'd argue that there can be much worse... Makes Dell look good in comparison lol.

 

I bought a new 9900K just for fun with my desktop build and ended up plopping it into my area 51m instead. Stable 5 GHz across all cores at -140mV undervolt with sweet temps. My original cpu was too hot so that ended up under a liquid cooler where it belongs.

 

I disagree with you about this. This depends on which retailer you choose. And the look for clevo might look Cheaply.but the components and support service they provided just on different level with dell especially the support service. Metabox support service would return the laptop in a week normally after you request a repair. Dell will send a tech to you . Yes it sound a good but if he can’t solve the problem . Then good luck to you. They won’t send another tech again and you have to send it back to their depot waiting for at least a month to get it back. And their customer care service are the worse of all brands on the market. They just don’t care the customer at all. If you read my post about what their customer care service , you would not get back to dell again .

 

Kryonaut isn't available here these days in Singapore and I literally had to pay twice the actual price to buy it via amazon. So I'll not be using it on systems that are about to be open multiple times before a stable build. Also, if you notice, i gave up on the copper IHS for now because of the same height issue. It's too tall. This weekend I'll be grinding it down to match the exact height as the stock IHS before putting it back on. Or might just end up using it in my desktop as I'm having very acceptable temps with the new CPU so far. And i suspect this tall copper IHS was originally the culprit behind my GPU getting hot. Although the factory heat sink was also warped because i got 85 C out of the box compared to 87 C after copper IHS and now a comfortable 81C on GPU with stock CPU IHS and new heat sink.

 

At least not with metabox which they rebranded clevo in Australia and with great service. I had a p650 two years ago. And had couple thermal issues . Sent back to them and normally I will have my laptop back in a week. Compared with dell’s customer don’t care service , this is no joke.

 

Well the "too big to fail" factor is also at play in case of Dell.

 

What's the difference have spare quality pads all times vs. same for quality thermal paste?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...m-owners-lounge.826831/page-820#post-10898161

Spoiler

 

I just requested a return and refund for my 51m. After they delivered a BS to me. Huge delayed , horrible customer care . (Asked canceled the order 11 times by them when asking update for the status) and was put in to public segment cause the customer care didnt want to help. Banned from their forum after posting the experience with their customer care service. And after you confirmed with their sales for the 9th gen cpu twice, they delivered a 8th gen i7 to me. WTF is the dell doing ?! They just don’t deserve such market share.

 

how do we know if we have the 200w bios installed ?

 

I have a lot of paste lol. I just don't go the wasteful route when tweaking stuff and save the best for last and final build only. I know some guys would waste 5 gram of kryonaut just to tweak a system to optimum performance but that's stupid imo. Temperature is relative as long as you use the same compound. I use readily locally available pastes for this dirty work and when I'm satisfied, only then apply the real thing. Same goes for pads.

 

Yeah use Kryonaut, you will love it.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/thermal-grizzly-kryonaut.790919/page-10#post-10261106

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...s-before-i-start.741745/page-65#post-10249996

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...iquid-metal-paste.812596/page-2#post-10660500

 

Sorry to hear that. I would be mad as hell if that had happened to me. Did you talk to frank on twitter?

 

If you read your own previous posts... You said use best quality due the problems. This doesn't fits. Whats the point save the best to later if the hardware go up in smoke? You don't follow your own advices yooo give to others

 

Thanks for reply. Frank? I had nerves heard but I will definitely try it

 

Sorry, but you have no point.

 

ROFL @ 'user with the name' Iunlock and 'user' johnksss and 'operated' by prema

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Alien...outgunned-by-a-couple-of-Clevos.419244.0.html

 

My question was to Ultra Male because its been a long time he has applied LM esp. Liquid Ultra since most of them swear by TGC. Ultra Male usually has everything tweaked up from factory through HID.
9900K needs AiO for optimal performance.

 

That tweet didn't age well.

 

No way to tell yet I don’t think. Besides, as long as you have both the System BIOS and VBIOS updated to the latest versions, you shouldn’t have any issues. Even the latest 200W VBIOS firmware is perfectly fine to install.

The ones who experienced smoke coming out of their systems unfortunately received bad units, and upon contacting Dell customer service would have received replacement units.

Also, overclocking the GPU & CPU is done completely at the owner’s risk. Careful attention should be given to the temps of the hardware, it’s critical to avoid dangerous situations.

 

I think I exposed HID enough here over their so called upgrades if you go through my posts. They are just taking money for stuff that they never do.

 

Yeah it’s pretty sad when I have to go through dell versus the place I bought it from for a replacement. Dell had better options and even threw in upgrades for the trouble while HID just told me I’m better off going through dell. Next time I’ll just go through dell directly.


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so no harm reinstalling the 200w bios, so am sure i have it, cos am not certain sadly

 

Yes go ahead. Just make sure though that your power components on the GPU are properly making contact with the heat sink through quality thermal pads so that all that extra power doesn't stress them too much.

 

what about pushing some 72 Degree 4700 or 82 Degree 5200 benches?

 

Should be even colder now from what I can see in quote I put above yours.

 

we havent seen a single result yet looking forward to 6X degree r20 bench from @S.K

 

They've changed plenty of stuff. Zoom in on the chips and you'll see almost all have different part numbers.

 

I think I’ll bench the Area-51m again this weekend.

What type of apps are you looking to use? nVidia also has creative drivers which increase performance in Photoshop and Maxon 3D as well:

Go to 6:00

 

@SacraficeMyGoat and anyone else who might remember my dead GPU situation:

I finally received my GPU replacement part from Dell and amazon finally sent the thermal paste (Grizzly Kyronaut) that I needed before changing it out. It's been a few hours since I did it, but so far so good. It appears the problem was in fact a dead GPU and not a MOBO issue or something. Hopefully I will have better luck this time. Though I think I might repaste it again as I tried using the spread method this time, and I have always done the pea method. Not sure if I did a great job with it. Playing Warhammer total war with maxed out settings the CPU was getting to about 93c and the gpu 85c. Sound ok?

 

Nope. Both CPU AND GPU are too hot for comfort. I'd say delid and undervolt that 9900k and that will cool things down considerably.

 

Unfortunately, where I'm located currently, delidding isnt really a possibility for me. I will look into undervolting. So those numbers are no bueno huh? Think it is that I did a poor job repasting the GPU and cpu?

 

Just use a X-cross. Of course with thermal paste and not liquid metal.