*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

From what I have seen from the vids on YouTube the thermal gains are similar even with the soldered 9900K. Should expect at least 8-10°C improvement.

Edit: I guess between 4-10°C according to GamersNexus and der8auer, but that's still significant. That can mean the difference between thermal throttling or not thermal throttling. Probably varies with the bin quality of the CPU and how much voltage it needs. Steve seemed to have had a much better 9900K sample than Roman did and his gains were smaller than Roman's crappy sample that required more voltage and still didn't overclock very well.

 

ok then i will buy the a51m with 9700k and organize an pretested delidded 9900k to swap

even if it only drops the temps by 5k... in Combination with LM and UV it could be 15K-20K and would result in 80-85 degree CB temps...with lifted back even better.

I would be happy if 4500mhz is doable for 24/7 gaming with max temps in the 70s...

 

very very much true. My 1080 can run full power when undervolted, and it still can reach up to 200 watts. even locked on 1850Mhz on 0.900Mv it hovers around 140/150 but can reach up to 200 (firestrike for example) when the load suddenly rises. but it won't cross 65C @150 watt so the cooling capacity is there. CPU is still cooking but only when i cross 180 watts.

 

that score is like only 11% better than mine. If i can get my card up to 2.2 Ghz or 2150 i could cross that score. my 1080 stock score's 18000+ already

 

this...

 

mine could, even made a reddit post about it. But there where some good units in the wild. I nonetheless repasted with LM to start tackling the powerlimit. In the picture i was able to clock to 4.4 Ghz without being close to thermal throttling.

 

i talk about stock... not about LM, UV R5 Notebooks I know what a 17R5 with LM can do and what not... maybe ur Unit was good... but 99% stock units not...




But i want to know what a A51m with 9900k and 2080 can do 17R5 is from yesterday

 

i that picture is off a stock 17 R5...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Alienware/comments/9d9398/i_seem_to_have_received_a_good_unit/

and your 4.7 score is my 4.5 score so something is bugging your score's. stock 4.3 all core i score 1350/1370

 

proof? can be pm too... its still off topic here. I dont care about the 17r5 anymore its sold and the a51m is on order

 

will PM you when i'm done with work. I can understand ya, i won't buy anymore castrated bga crap. I hope your 51m functiions well ! paid bigbucks for the r5

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/dell-alienware-area-51-m-inside-upgradeability,38522.html

Toms Hardware has a unit in their hands and start to test it exciting times ^^

 

Why waste the money on both CPU's?

Just buy your 51-M from HIDevolution and have them delid whichever CPU you want from the get go.

• HIDevolution Delidded Intel 9th Gen Core i7-9700K 8 Core, 8 Thread, 12MB Cache, Processor, 3.6 - 4.9 GHz - installed by HIDevolution +$240.00

• HIDevolution Delidded Intel 9th Gen Core i9-9900K 8 Core, 16 Thread, 16MB Cache, Processor, 3.6 - 5.0 GHz - installed by HIDevolution

Hell they will even play the silicon lottery for you, but it costs a pretty penny...

• Silicon Lottery Binned, Delidded Intel 9th Gen Core i9-9900K 8 Core, 16 Thread, 16MB Cache, Processor, 3.6 - 5.0 GHz (Rated to 5.1GHz) - installed by HIDevolution +$910.00

They will use Conductonaut LM between the die and IHS. Gelid GC Extreme between IHS and heat spreader. They will also use Conductonaut on the GPU and Fujiploy thermal pads.

 

Is HID shipping to Germany?

 

i wouldn't trust them except when you have money to blow, and just need pointers why something is good, and not the good, the bad and the ugly

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-gpus-worth-the-money,37689.html Btw, this page is called "Just Buy It" referring to RTX without 3rdparty bencmarks which is quite ridiculous.
Hardware unbox or gamersnexus should receive and test a unit (and notebookcheck offcoarse)

 

They are a sister site of laptopmag so expect their review to pretty much sound like a paid advertisement just like laptopmag's did.

https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/alienware-area-51m

 

They ship worldwide and they also offer a worldwide warranty.

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Cheers mate. Will check HID.

oof... my order from HID would cost 5000 USD...+19% Tax = 5100€...My Dell Order with 9700K would cost 3300 Euro with 10% off coupon)... so 1800€ cheaper... so i can buy an 9900 pretested and still save 1200€...AND have an 9700k for spare/ sell

 

i had the same problem. 20% tax and its absolutely not worth it. Its so sad that HID has no shop in Europe...

 

Alright I've cleaned up a few posts in here. Let's stay away from the personal attacks.

 

Its what put me off too , was going to cost almost double what I could get it for direct from Dell. If they had a shop in Europe it would be a no brainer.

 

Before Max Fans

 

that is an i9 8950HK... what do you want to say? I dont get your point

 

Here you go guys. hopefully questions will be answered here

 

That was the 15" model

 

wrong thread? This one is about A51m

 

When can we expect the 240hz screens?

 

Still wrong thread?

 

ok i stop it here... Quote communication is senseless.

you throw in a sentence with a meaningless pic and answer in quotes....

 

Yeah, that was actually my fault on that.

 

Why do you want a 240hz screen when at 1080p (which are the only 240hz screens there are) these GPU's are heavily CPU bottlenecked and in most games aren't even hitting 144hz at 1080p. Not even the 2080 is hitting over 144hz in most games unless you want to run at potato graphics settings which begs the question why even buy a 2080.

Keep saying it and will continue to say it; these cards, especialy the 2080 need a 1440p 120-144hz screen to begin to be properly utilized.,

 

ohhh so it's not worth the wait then?

I guess I'll just wait for HIDevolution to give me the temps/speeds on the 9900K after their cooling mods then I'll pull the trigger if it was ok.

 

I want one of these really badly and have the money to pull the trigger now, but won't even begin to think about it until there isa screen option available above 1080p.

If I need an external monitor to get the most out of the card I may as build a mini ITX build or buy an MSi Trident or Corsair One.

 

But what's the point of a screen res above 1080P in a laptop bro? like with 4K you can't see anything properly without DPI scaling which only introduces blurriness in apps that don't support it or misaligned text/buttons then if you think of it, if you need to do DPI scaling to see stuff properly, then what's the point? why not just get a screen which you can see at the best resolution which is the native resolution to get the max sharpness/clarity?

1440P is doable though, you can still see things if you have good eye sight without DPI scaling. I had a 1440P screen on my previous Clevo P870DM3 but I still feel more comfortable looking at stuff at 1080P. Just my 2 cents.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...1m-owners-lounge.826831/page-89#post-10858606


http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...1m-owners-lounge.826831/page-90#post-10858643

 

Really?
Asus and Gigabyte have 240Hz panel, although Nvidia was right there with less than stellar drivers killing the 240Hz performance at CES.

 

There's nothing wrong with 1080p. That's the minimum acceptable resolution and I'd not turn down an otherwise good product even though I like 1440p a lot better than 1080p. The only thing wrong is having to settle for a 60Hz (garbage) panel. That's just crappy regardless of the resolution. But, if that is the only one available that will work, you just have to suck it up and live with it if you want the machine. If you're lucky, you might be able to manually overclock it to 75 or 100Hz.

Yes, there are panels out there, but I think it has something to do with what is available that will actually work/fit with the lid and thin bezel design specific to the Area 51M.

 

The engineer at CES said it was due to the very slim bezel. There are no choices in production except the one they have right now.

 

This is true. Some asked if they could drop one in and the answer or non answer seem to be no. That it was in the works.

 

From Prema...
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...1m-owners-lounge.826831/page-79#post-10857783

 

I'd be kind of curious to know specifically why. Maybe the thin bezel design has no metal rim around the perimeter or something and the better panels available do, which causes a fit problem. It would be worth investigating to find out the real reason (if there is one) rather than just accepting "no" as the answer on face value. It might be that "no" is accurate, but it's not like they have never said something that was not accurate before. I remember one of the lame excuses for discontinuing the Alienware 18 was that an 18 inch screen was no longer available... yet MSI continued selling a machine with the 18 inch screen. Maybe the technically correct answer is "not from a vendor we work with" rather than just plain old "no" LOL.

 

They could be waiting on the next refresh in a few months...Speculations of course.

 

I hope they have more options around May. I need a device by late June. If only there was an upgrade path for these panels but from what I have read, it's a yes/no kind of scenario where it highly depends on the connector that is going to be needed.

 

Those where 15inch panels.

 

Yes. They said 17's would come later. As to how much later I do not know. Not to mentioned it didn't even work.

 

Speaking of those 99C CPU temps...
True bencher can't be stopped, can't be denied, can't be contained! Overheating? What overheating?? Just do this!

https://imgur.com/a/jccmXzw

 

That's way too much work, bro. It is kind of cool in terms of geek factor, but probably not going to be all that effective for a machine like the Area 51M. The contact with heat pipes versus direct contact with the heat plate is less effective than proper liquid cooling, and the water will eventually get warm enough to not be cold enough to do enough good.

Just get a portable AC unit and set it on top of that with cold air blowing on everything. Everything will also run lots cooler than that kind of a home grown liquid cooling mod, and you don't have to interfere with the design or portability factor of the laptop. Brother @Johnksss and I have been doing this for many years and there's not an easier or more convenient way to keeps things extra chilly so you can overclock the crap out of a laptop. (It can also be done with a desktop.)

 

Ahh, I recognize that beast, one of the best AW systems of all times...

Totally agree with you about the AC unit concept. It's just that not all of us have the same end goal. For me, it's the process of trying something new, unique, even if it seems less efficient, what matters the most. If I get myself this new AW machine, will most likely just focus on modding (the screen, heatsinks, exterior design), instead of squeezing every last bit of the performance out of it. But who knows, it's getting cold here on the west coast, I might just open the window and start benching, just to make sure polar bears don't come and ruin my setup lol

 

This is the reason the polar ice caps are melting. People like us @Mr. Fox @Johnksss @Papusan benchmarking with the window open.

 

Modding things is a lot of fun. I've always wanted to see someone do a really effective laptop cooling mod with a Peltier cooler. That might be an example of where having a unified heat sink could actually be advantageous. That might give you a more accommodating surface to attach a large Peltier unit. Now that Alienware laptops have the CPU and GPU on the bottom side of the motherboard like a Clevo, condensation would be less of a concern, as any drips would be falling off of heat sink (rather than running onto the top of the motherboard).

I wonder what would happen if you dismantle one of these and put the cold side down directly onto the heat pipes right over the top of the CPU? If it got cold enough to work, it would be kind of neat, especially if it fits under the bottom cover and runs off of USB power. You might be able to secure it with some kind of spring clips or even nylon zip ties, with some cheap thermal paste between it and the heat pipes. Maybe solder a large 1mm * 30mm * 30mm copper shim on top of the heat pipes first to maximize the contact.

https://www.amazon.com/Thermoelectric-Cooler-Can-Shaped-Refrigerator-Freezer/dp/B01BWIFE0O

 

This made me laugh because I'm hoping that when my area 51m comes that there are a few good cold days left of winter so I could do some benchmarks on my porch. But I might have to have this for the summer.