*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Got it, turns out I can max out at 2100 on the core and my memory was the limiter here, it can only do +800 stable. But the core can hit the max 2100 just fine


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Not too bad!

 

Like Prema point out a few pages back, 2100 is the max any OEM 2080 can hit. Looks like it's been set by nvidia themselves and there is no way around this issue it seems.

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Yeah it’s also very rare for it to hit 2100 in games, most of the time I’m hovering between 1890 and 1960 in all the titles I’ve played.


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You need to tweak your voltage curve with Afterburner (press Ctrl F) and undervolt it slighty to hit 2000+ in games. It's worth a shot.

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Here is my run with the 9900K at 5.1ghz -50mv. Temps went into the mid 90s max when benching. Best settings are 4.8ghz on all cores with a -150mv undervolt, temps maxed at 82C during the bench.




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Great score. Try to reach 30k graphics score because it looks like you got a good 2080 chip.

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My last unit had a 2080 that could hit +1400 memory, this one can max out around 800 to 900 only. I won’t ever hit 30K because of this. The core on this one is great, however.


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Give it some time. My first machine overclocked great and at first my replacement didn't overclock as well. After a few weeks, it seems to overclock better now. I'd crash at +171 core, and like +800 memory, now I can OC to +171 and +900 to +1000 on my 2070 for FS benches.

Maybe it just needs to warm up

 

Their tweaking normally involves additional software that adds overhead and is flakey... Killer lost my trust years ago, they try, but just not worth the effort... It's like a company buying a Lamborghini and saying they made it better by adding stickers and decals to it... No thanks.

 

Intel Here I Come

Thanks

 

I just noticed that on the italia dell website the configurations with rtx 2080 have much longer delivery times 15/19 days, while all the other 5/7 days

you can't understand how boring it is to have to disassemble this machine to see if I have the power components updated on the motherboard and dgff

 

They didn't tweak anything except for the killer branding. It's the same chip. Plus the lenovo drivers only contained a .cab file which had direct driver .inf files etc that needed to be upgraded via device manager. No setup etc. I like clean barebone drivers like that. Not rebranded BS loaded with bloatware.

Well if you plan to keep it for 3-4 years then a little reassurance always helps.

 

So AWCC kept bugging me to update to latest OC Controls. However, the latest version bugs out and never installs correctly. Staying on previous revision until they fix it.

 

You need to uninstall both the Alienware Command Center and the current OC Controls then reboot. then reinstall the latest ones from your drivers page. That's what I got from Dell Cares via Twitter and it did fix the issue.

 

You mean you got a refurbished aka used MB. This doesn't necessarily mean that new Motherboards directly from Dell factory will come with equal or same parts.

 

I agree with this, there's no way to tell the replacement motherboard is a brand new module and whether any revision was done on it in the first place.
Personally, I would rather replace the entire laptop than tinkering around a brand new $4,000 system(not to mention the screw damage and the scratches) and hope to get a better working one. I don't have any issues with the wait times as I plan to use it 5 years plus and I want to get a system which I know for sure will last me that long. That's what a 5 year warranty is for and if it does within the warranty period, I'll get a new laptop with a brand new hardware so I am not worried at all.
Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

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I'm beginner, can you please tell me what exactly to modify in settings and with which software to lower the temperature of the processor?

CPU: 48-50°C idle and 100°C intensive.
with all factory default settings, and CPU/GPU factory Paste.

My configuration is based on i9 9900K and RTX 2080 (Latest Bios 1.5.0 and VBIOS 200W).
I have 32GB of MICRON DDR4 2666 RAM (16ATF2G64HZ-2G6E1) according to the CPU-Z software.
The RTX 2080 is based on GDDR6 chips (Samsung) apparently according to the GPU-Z software.

Speaking French, and not understanding well tutorial videos in English on YouTube, if you can be as clear as possible so that I do not make mistakes, it would be very nice of you.

Thank you.

 

My first-batch machine composed of that ‘upgraded’ KP616BA mosfet still died (dc-dc module burnt) after one week use so your deduction is not right at all. Maybe they just have both of them in their BOM list at the very beginning.

 

Can you maybe search XTU or Throttlestop tutorials on French sites? Does Youtube have a French version (apologies thats probs a really silly question), you may find a French tutorial there? Then for the GPU you want to search for MSI Afterburner tutorial. Hopefully there is a French speaking enthusiast here that can help.

 

Follow this video. I'm sorry I couldn't find a French one:




As for the GPU, follow this one:




It should give you an idea about what software to use and how to go about it even if you don't speak English natively.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Congrats on your new system by the way, you've got a BEAST so tune it carefully.

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Here's a french tutorial explaining how to undervolt with XTU
https://blog.materiel.net/undervolt-refroidir-son-pc-portable-en-quelques-clics/

 

Not needed. I install KCC only to control traffic when I'm slow Wifi or mobile data. If you have good down/up speeds and third party DNS. KCC can disable Windows update traffic if I forget to disable WU service.

Depends on your usage though. If you want Killer specific features like Doubleshot or their Wifi hotspot thing then KCC will be needed otherwise its not.

 

A VRM (voltage regulator module) is a component which regulates voltage - https://www.techopedia.com/definition/2325/voltage-regulator-module-vrm. They will heat up while functioning and usually need some sort of cooling system in place to displace their heat.

Now to me, SOA stands for Service Oriented Architecture, a software architecture for piecing a software system together - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service-oriented_architecture

However, as it was used by doofus, I take it to mean they are not used as designed or are used beyond their specifications.

 

Can you post a picture of your PK616BA dead? I don't think it can die unless you really got a lemon as the max current specs on this part are an OVERKILL for this machine. These 2 can power up two machines simultaneously and still have juice to spare.

Just to let you and others know that these aren't fake but original parts.

 

From what I can see in this reddit post... Dell haven't many motherboard aviable. Maybe they fix the one they got in from their customers with all sorts of parts.

Area 51m motherboard sourcing
Hi all. I messed up. I tried repasting and completely trashed my motherboard in the process. Because of this, Dell won't repair under warranty.

Does anyone know where I could source the motherboard replacement? All other parts are fine...just need this. I contacted Dell and they said it isnt available and they have no idea when. Thanks !

 

I could easily edit the VEN&Dev info on a piece of hardware... I've seen plenty of fake wireless cards on ALI fyi.

 

Yes but faking acceptance of the original Intel driver and performing like an AX200 with a wifi-6 router is much more than "editing VEN&Dev info".

 

Ouch that sucks! Try messaging Frank Azor on Facebook and see if he can help? Call other resellers like HID and see if they have motherboards they can sell you. I’m sure they have something since they service and repair these.


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Sadly you're not going to sway me, I've been in tech for a long time and I've seen lots of great looking fakes. Sure your card is likely genuine, but I always caution people when buying direct from China. The driver thing isn't the hard part. It could also be a reject Intel card that was purchased on the cheap. For me, the $7 was worth the piece of mind and faster shipping/easy to deal with returns.

Glad it's working out for you though!

 

THIS! Typical Chinese business practice.

 

Sorry to hear that. Do you know what happened? Static energy or something like that? Anyway, hope you find your new MB soon.

 

You can share your internet connection via your wifi card to turn it into a hotspot. Still don't need Killer imho, but I know some people like the UI and the features that they offer so that's their personal preference. I like doing things in a minimalist way without involving a lot of third party software. One thing that I do find worth mentioning here is that I noticed receiving a LOT of packet errors with the Killer drivers for the previous card. The moment I switched to Intel drivers, I stopped seeing error events in my system events log. This happened to my old MSI GT75 Titan too which also had a killer card. Replacing the driver with intel bare bone one made things a lot smoother. Increased the speeds for me too though it was a marginal increase.

 

Not mine. Only to show... Dell haven't many motherboard aviable. Say that upgraded refurbished aka used MB board which came from Dell has hand soldered parts that @S.K got for his Area doesn't mean Dell use same parts/components directly from factory.

Not many MB is floating around. And only God knows how this will pan out in the second (used) market after a year or two. People risk buying expencive used/or so called new MB which is at risk burning up.

 

Sorry I forgot to ask, our 51M should it be x8 or x16 on those pci e lanes

Mine says pcie x16 3.0 @ x8 3.0 whereas am sure my desktop has it x16 all d way

 

2080 @ x8
2080Ti @ x16

 

Awesome , Thanks

So all is well

 

Maybe the AGA. Dell's proritary graphics port.

 

Arghh good point, hopefully one day i get that for the usb ports if they improve on it

 

It is the AGA and it's why any future notebook that has dual GPU will not have an AGA port.

 

I highly doubt we will ever see dual GPU notebooks again, for gaming. Nvidia and developers ruined that technology.


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Sure

 

IIRC the 51M splits the x16 between DGFF and AGA, so that each one is limited to x8.

Clevo's P8 series splits the x16 between both MXM ports, so that it also only runs each one at x8 while the P7 series has the full x16 to the single MXM.

 

I'll not recommend a fake, EVER! And the store that I mentioned is a trustworthy one where I've been buying inventory parts for my own company in bulk for the last 3 years and never had any problems. I even claimed warrenty on a few of them from the manufacturer. And, let's face it. Fake parts are everywhere. But what's good is that you report it and keep it along with the refund. No need to return. That's why I prefer Ali Express over Amazon, but only for certain parts. Some parts are only on Amazon or Ebay etc. It boils down to price and personal preference and how urgently you need stuff. Amazon's shipping is great, no doubt about it.

 

So do you think we are seeing limitations from the X8? I thought the 2080ti could only saturate it. Sucks for future GPUs we may use


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I'd say the difference between x8 and x16 performance is negligible. Unless you get a 2080TI DGFF.

 

True lol but what about the RTX 3080 we are getting next year I think pcie 5.0 is coming soon , didn’t they skip 4.0?


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If you are looking to squeeze every last bit out of these GPUs during higher res benching, then maybe a P7 could be King.
For gaming at 1080 it doesn't matter at all.

 

Not that, W10 supports native Hotspot feature. I was talking about Killer xTend. https://www.killernetworking.com/technologies/killer-wireless-xtend/

 

Yasssss finally a benching session! I'm gonna bench my Area-51m again after so long....Might even have to throw in the M18xR2 for fun.

Naw almost half of that actually, just a joke.

So far doesn't seem like it's limiting our benchmarks in Area-51m /P870TM1 series vs P775TM1.

Then again....has anyone actually pushed the P775TM1 to its limits yet?