you realy think they test the systems before they ship them?![]()
If they really did, we would not have had so many problems in recent years
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Also to add, once you find the right cure you can click on one of the voltage dots, then hold the shift key down and the move the mouse up or down. It will move the whole voltage/clocks curve as a unit.
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@Prema just pointed this out to me. LOL
https://twitter.com/crasher1in/status/1092544376025182210?s=19
Don't buy our product.
Don't buy our product from them.
And since i'm Frank from Dell, your only choice is to buy from us.
More money in our pocket while trashing one of our resellers in the process.
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I guess Dell doesn't show the memory settings menu in the BIOS afraid people will end up with machines that won't boot and having to do a CMOS reset. They should at least have 2666 stock....makes no sense 2400 at this point in time.Last edited: Feb 6, 2019Ashtrix, Joikansai, Spartan@HIDevolution and 4 others like this. -
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I dont think that the 51m wont boot with 2666mhz RAM, because HID etc. all sell the 51m with 2666Mhz RAM... and i think they test this before they offer this...(hope so because i already ordered 2666 mhz...
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Money keep running
I saw buyer that preorder some rtx laptops brand on 29th are already having their unit, 3 days after ordering, directly from Hongkong. When I’m not wrong according that Japanese video, Alienware TV, release day there would also on 20th February, not quite remember though correct me if I’m wrong any Japanese who saw that video till the end.Vasudev likes this. -
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The more info is being released, the sadder the picture get's. Probably would only buy this if it's from an outlet and 40% cheaper. Cuzz this price ain't it. Probably going to Internally watercool my next laptop, so it got to be a LGA/MXM machine. Only tha way i can be sure that there is enough room for my heatpipes (where the water would flow through)
I do hope for the people that spended big money, that the performance is better than how it now looks. It barely outperforms my broken 8950HK/1080 which took me almost a week to get stable undervolts/overclocksDarkhan, Vasudev, jclausius and 1 other person like this. -
Watching this thread with interest, hoping this could finally be the one to replace my old XPS L702X (as sadly Dell dont make a 17" XPS anymore).
I don't travel with it, it'll be sat right next to a power supply and don't care how much it weighs. All I have to do now is figure out how to get permission from the wife to buy it as it's *cough* a bit more than the 9570 I returned to DellLast edited: Feb 12, 2019Mr. Fox likes this. -
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Whoop whoop! Mine had just shipped. I have an updated eta of 15/2/19 but hoping it arrives before that as China to uk doesn’t normally take 9 days!
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Please help me to decide:
What's the best between buy Area 51m with Dell 2x8go DDR4 2400mhz (but Dell says that it's 2666mhz but run at 2400?)
OR buy crucial 2x8go DDR4 2666mhz ballistix 20/30 euros less???
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I think contrast ratio of 600:1 is a typo. If it was true then you're better buying a cheap laptop that comes with way more Contrast ratio, more RAM/SSD upgrade options than paying steep price that can't even do basic things a laptop other OEMs push out!c69k likes this. -
Man it's been a LOOONG time since I checked in here. I had to swing by to check out the 51m. Am I correct in reading it is now a MaxQ 2080? When I had the horrible early 1080 Alienware 17R4 and was refunded I went to an MSI and didn't look back. Still runs 1080 mostly high settings without exceeding temps in the high 70s. I was feeling the itch to upgrade and I had a feeling reading the early desktop 2080Ti reviews that the notebooks couldn't likely pull off near desktop performance like the 10 series. I decided to build a custom rig for the first time in forever (i9 9900k, 2080ti, m.2 970, 32gb Trident 3200mhz, Thermaltake View 71 case with an AIO and all that stuff). So gorgeous. Two things occurred. First was I noticed the power demands of the 9900k and 2080ti overclocked were both incredibly high and while the notebook comes with what appears a 660 watt PSU (??), I can see thermal issues big time. PSU is fine but the case just doesn't appear to have a design that will work despite the design language being used by AW. (hope I am wrong). I am playing on a x34 3400x1440p Predator and BF5 could barely get low DxR working to a level I like. 1080p would be different but it will be tough with this current notebook 2080 me thinks.
Sooo I decided to sit this gen out, return my rig I built and go Old School. Saw a really good deal on a ROG Lian Li 011 case housing ROG Strix x299-E MB, i9 7900X, 2 Strix ROG 1080Ti OC in SLI, 32gb of G.skill Trident RGB 3200mhz ram, some m.2 and Bitspower custom waterblocks for the CPU and Full waterblocks for both GPUs. I hope people who do get their systems early have some good fortune with thermals. I imagine if thermals are OK, then anyone who ordered will be elated as the performance is pretty easy to ballpark atm. To wrap up, I honestly think the sweet spot for notebook enthusiasts is going to be a good 1440p monitor with 120-144hz, and around a 2080ti desktop EQUAL if not a bit better. I remember the times CPU bottlenecking was tested on 1024x768 and 1080p was enthusiast extreme. Now this appears to be the baseline CPU bottleneck test and notebook enthusiasts should have some real options to differentiate from the rapidly growing gaming notebook scene. All the lower end to mid end notebooks should be funding the R/D for the real enthusiast level rigs and I am yet to even want to upgrade my 7700hq, 1080GTX MSI Titan VR that's almost two years old!
To the poster above, though 30 Euro isn't a giant deal when you are all in, the ram speed isn't a giant deal but isn't nonexistent. I think 3200mhz is around the best overall. Over 4ghz is net neutral and even a loss if you are overclocking other components. Likely that ram is 2400mhz but run at 2666mhz through an XMP bios option which just overclocks it.VoodooChild likes this. -
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I order on Jan 10th, had a ship date of Feb 18th... They automatically cancelled the order for unknown reasons (they said power supply issue(guess this happened to several others)) anyway I created another order and now I have Feb 28th showing...
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This is a DX12 1920x1080 benchmark (I picked the currently best 2080 result) :
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I can press CTRL-L and that locks it at a certain voltage and frequency, but it does not allow it to go idle so the card is running at 2000MHz all the time.
When not locked it tries to go to 1.050V, at whatever frequency this ends up being.
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If you do not use Ctrl+L it will automatically use the voltage applicable to the frequency as controlled by the vBIOS. If you raise the dot for the frequency above a particular voltage column, (which is overclocking,) under load it should run at that frequency and voltage up to the maximum voltage the card is allowed to use by the firmware. By the same token, if you lower the dot, the clock speed will drop (underclock).
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Well I chatted with Dell and my Order is in pre-production. So it is still being made and not cancelled like some have said. That's good as I couldn't survive another few weeks wait. Lol
Oh and I found this video on Alienware taking the Area 51m apart. Pretty simple compared to the 17 r5 or 15 r4 as the ribcage seems alot easier to take off. Though it has a ridiculous amount of screws.
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Guys, I never had this issue before. Its been two weeks ago I've placed the order and they canceled my order and gonna place the new one for the 4th time so far. Today I got email that I have to wait 2 days for status update. I have no idea how much to wait at all and what's going on.
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The most you can do is to flatten the curve at the voltage point you want locked, all the way to the right. But I'm not even sure if that will give you precisely what you want.Vistar Shook, Rei Fukai and Mr. Fox like this. -
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Did they give you a reason why they cancelled your order? Seems odd they would unless they have an actual reason.Spartan@HIDevolution likes this. -
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Get it from some reputed reseller and be done with this joke man.hmscott, Vistar Shook, raz8020 and 1 other person like this. -
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I know because our ERP at work is just as crap; and sales gives the same bogus reasons when orders are cancelled for no reason.hmscott, Vistar Shook and iunlock like this. -
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My original order was put in Jan 10th and they cancelled that one 3 days ago ... Now I have a new order with a date of Feb 27th
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