*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

you realy think they test the systems before they ship them?

If they really did, we would not have had so many problems in recent years

 

Just follow @Vistar Shook explanation on voltage curve. And don't lock the voltage using CTRL +L


Also to add, once you find the right cure you can click on one of the voltage dots, then hold the shift key down and the move the mouse up or down. It will move the whole voltage/clocks curve as a unit.


Edit:
@Prema just pointed this out to me. LOL
https://twitter.com/crasher1in/status/1092544376025182210?s=19
Don't buy our product.
Don't buy our product from them.
And since i'm Frank from Dell, your only choice is to buy from us.
More money in our pocket while trashing one of our resellers in the process.
ROTFL

 

Locking the voltage with Ctrl+L is better than flattening the curve, right? Performance wise?

I guess Dell doesn't show the memory settings menu in the BIOS afraid people will end up with machines that won't boot and having to do a CMOS reset. They should at least have 2666 stock....makes no sense 2400 at this point in time.

 

I walk the factory line often and not a system gets packed unless it passes EPSA test phase. But many factors come into play from factory to customer so ye 100% are not going to reach the customer as it was intended but again this is not a perfect world.

 

Locking is good to keep clocks stable. Or one can spend the time to set up each point on the voltage curve.
You can also set up profiles to hotkeys.

 

And my apologies too. Glad we worked out our differences.

 

Maybe XoticPC and others should put AW in the trash can.

They want to clear out old inventory and ship BIOS update to make non-certified 2400MHz RAM to run at 2667MHz with XMP and at the max RAM will crap out after 1 year and most likely the blame will be put on end-users even with long warranty!
2667MHz on 1Y process is expensive even when bought in bulk. The only reason I recommend Dell is the ease of upgrading BIOS even after EOL with Aptio 5 MMtool and InsydeH20 is very heavily locked down.

 

I dont think that the 51m wont boot with 2666mhz RAM, because HID etc. all sell the 51m with 2666Mhz RAM... and i think they test this before they offer this...(hope so because i already ordered 2666 mhz... )

 

In China and Japan there’s no holiday 24/7 all working time no breaks Money keep running
I saw buyer that preorder some rtx laptops brand on 29th are already having their unit, 3 days after ordering, directly from Hongkong. When I’m not wrong according that Japanese video, Alienware TV, release day there would also on 20th February, not quite remember though correct me if I’m wrong any Japanese who saw that video till the end.

 

That really sucks, I mean Alienwares with Skylake BGA like mine did boot with 2400/2667MHz and only issue I had was the specific DRAM module was blacklisted by dell and intel for weird blackscreen issue (I can't really remember) but honestly I just used it on Dell PC that shipped with that same RAM.
I think Frank is locking out all options to make LGA like piss poor cheapo 500$ laptop with everything locked.

 

This is the perfect example of throwing your fans under the bus. I mean it shouldn't care where people bought your product. As long as it sells you shouldn't complain. I also don't see Samsung, or Apple cry because there are third party resellers (Apple can give people a hard time, but they rather sell, than lose money) selling their product. Ugh discusting. This shows how money can turn around people's dedication, and hard work (something azor hasnt been doing since he became the executive of an company that has ties with the devel himself).

The more info is being released, the sadder the picture get's. Probably would only buy this if it's from an outlet and 40% cheaper. Cuzz this price ain't it. Probably going to Internally watercool my next laptop, so it got to be a LGA/MXM machine. Only tha way i can be sure that there is enough room for my heatpipes (where the water would flow through)

I do hope for the people that spended big money, that the performance is better than how it now looks. It barely outperforms my broken 8950HK/1080 which took me almost a week to get stable undervolts/overclocks

 

Watching this thread with interest, hoping this could finally be the one to replace my old XPS L702X (as sadly Dell dont make a 17" XPS anymore).

I don't travel with it, it'll be sat right next to a power supply and don't care how much it weighs. All I have to do now is figure out how to get permission from the wife to buy it as it's *cough* a bit more than the 9570 I returned to Dell

 

Yes, this did not make sense. This is a case where an opinion can go seriously wrong...

And all Xotic was doing was a simple ram upgrade.....Imagine what he might have to say about HID with their upgrade path...

 

You said it, Azor is an executive as well as former glory AW LGA founder with deep ties to product development. If intel isn't helping them make better heatsink design then I'd suggest borrowing it from Clevos like Apple do with their products.

You're free to choose older Thinkpads/Latitudes/Precision/HP Probook that perform on-par latest models with worse cooling, atleast older model does it better and replacing thermal paste gives it a new lease of life.

 

Whoop whoop! Mine had just shipped. I have an updated eta of 15/2/19 but hoping it arrives before that as China to uk doesn’t normally take 9 days!

 

Please help me to decide:
What's the best between buy Area 51m with Dell 2x8go DDR4 2400mhz (but Dell says that it's 2666mhz but run at 2400?)
OR buy crucial 2x8go DDR4 2666mhz ballistix 20/30 euros less???

And anyone know informations about the panel ? Dell website says "contrast min: 600:1" if it's true, it's piece of ****...

 

Truth be told get the standard Crucial 2667MHz since we don't for sure if Dell whitelisted only OEM RAMs from SK Hynix,Crucial/Micron and Samsung.
I think contrast ratio of 600:1 is a typo. If it was true then you're better buying a cheap laptop that comes with way more Contrast ratio, more RAM/SSD upgrade options than paying steep price that can't even do basic things a laptop other OEMs push out!

 

Man it's been a LOOONG time since I checked in here. I had to swing by to check out the 51m. Am I correct in reading it is now a MaxQ 2080? When I had the horrible early 1080 Alienware 17R4 and was refunded I went to an MSI and didn't look back. Still runs 1080 mostly high settings without exceeding temps in the high 70s. I was feeling the itch to upgrade and I had a feeling reading the early desktop 2080Ti reviews that the notebooks couldn't likely pull off near desktop performance like the 10 series. I decided to build a custom rig for the first time in forever (i9 9900k, 2080ti, m.2 970, 32gb Trident 3200mhz, Thermaltake View 71 case with an AIO and all that stuff). So gorgeous. Two things occurred. First was I noticed the power demands of the 9900k and 2080ti overclocked were both incredibly high and while the notebook comes with what appears a 660 watt PSU (??), I can see thermal issues big time. PSU is fine but the case just doesn't appear to have a design that will work despite the design language being used by AW. (hope I am wrong). I am playing on a x34 3400x1440p Predator and BF5 could barely get low DxR working to a level I like. 1080p would be different but it will be tough with this current notebook 2080 me thinks.

Sooo I decided to sit this gen out, return my rig I built and go Old School. Saw a really good deal on a ROG Lian Li 011 case housing ROG Strix x299-E MB, i9 7900X, 2 Strix ROG 1080Ti OC in SLI, 32gb of G.skill Trident RGB 3200mhz ram, some m.2 and Bitspower custom waterblocks for the CPU and Full waterblocks for both GPUs. I hope people who do get their systems early have some good fortune with thermals. I imagine if thermals are OK, then anyone who ordered will be elated as the performance is pretty easy to ballpark atm. To wrap up, I honestly think the sweet spot for notebook enthusiasts is going to be a good 1440p monitor with 120-144hz, and around a 2080ti desktop EQUAL if not a bit better. I remember the times CPU bottlenecking was tested on 1024x768 and 1080p was enthusiast extreme. Now this appears to be the baseline CPU bottleneck test and notebook enthusiasts should have some real options to differentiate from the rapidly growing gaming notebook scene. All the lower end to mid end notebooks should be funding the R/D for the real enthusiast level rigs and I am yet to even want to upgrade my 7700hq, 1080GTX MSI Titan VR that's almost two years old!

To the poster above, though 30 Euro isn't a giant deal when you are all in, the ram speed isn't a giant deal but isn't nonexistent. I think 3200mhz is around the best overall. Over 4ghz is net neutral and even a loss if you are overclocking other components. Likely that ram is 2400mhz but run at 2666mhz through an XMP bios option which just overclocks it.

 

No, it is not Max-Q.

 

nope not max Q

 

I'm sure you will find more info if wanted

How Will Chinese New Year Affect Your Business?

 

The reason why we don't see any reputable reviews for this system other than that laptopmag paid advertisement is because Azor is so cunning that he doesn't anyone cancelling their pre orders. If this with a desktop processor can't beat a GT75 with a 1080, which I think will happen by the way, I'm not interested in AWs anymore. They've sold out. As simple as that!

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When did you make your order? Hope u get it before ETA

 

I remember LTT's Threadripper review on A51 and said it was absolute garbage.
Did you cancel your order as well?

 

I ordered on the 30th of Jan. I am actually surprised it shipped this quickly! Usually when I order a dell/Alienware new release they keep me hanging for weeks

 

What was your configuration? I ordered my i9 9900k + 2080 on January 10th, living in the USA

 

I order on Jan 10th, had a ship date of Feb 18th... They automatically cancelled the order for unknown reasons (they said power supply issue(guess this happened to several others)) anyway I created another order and now I have Feb 28th showing...

 

Brutal. Hopefully these other users getting theirs early can post some benchmarks and stats here so we can cancel before shipping if they're trash. Much easier than a return.

 

The vRAM is responsible for a huge portion of the difference between Pascal & Turing, hence Turing is doing better in TS which is a 3K/4K bench)

This is a DX12 1920x1080 benchmark (I picked the currently best 2080 result) :

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/nr/67868/nr/59081

 

I thought 3dmark invalidates older drivers. I hate nvidia drivers every new WHQL turns up worse than older ones.

 

I ordered i7 9700k/2070/white

 

AW have been doing that for a long time, randomly (seemingly) deleting orders and no following up with a call or notice to reorder, you've got to keep an eagle eye on your order.

It's also not fair, as you lose your place in the shipping / order queue, and that doesn't seem right.

 

I'll have to give dell a call and see if they did this to me. Checking online doesn't reveal anything. And customer support says I have to call sales? What's the point of customer service if you can't get me my order information?

 

I just cannot understand it this software, it is really unintuitive and awkward.

I can press CTRL-L and that locks it at a certain voltage and frequency, but it does not allow it to go idle so the card is running at 2000MHz all the time.

When not locked it tries to go to 1.050V, at whatever frequency this ends up being.

It seems I cannot tell it:

1) go up to 2000MHz (or 1800MHz, or 2100MHz etc)
2) go up to 0.95V (or whatever)
3) go slow when idle

 

This is when you bribe someone to post there exact profile or share their file if that's possible?

 

It does not go to a low power state because you did the Ctrl+L to lock it. That is by design. If you "lock" it, then it is "locked" at that value. This is overriding the firmware defaults.

If you do not use Ctrl+L it will automatically use the voltage applicable to the frequency as controlled by the vBIOS. If you raise the dot for the frequency above a particular voltage column, (which is overclocking,) under load it should run at that frequency and voltage up to the maximum voltage the card is allowed to use by the firmware. By the same token, if you lower the dot, the clock speed will drop (underclock).

Of course, this is all within the functional parameters of the GPU. It won't do a higher clock speed or voltage than what the firmware allows, and attempting to force it to a clock speed to high for the available voltage will cause instability and the driver to crash (TDR).

 

Well I chatted with Dell and my Order is in pre-production. So it is still being made and not cancelled like some have said. That's good as I couldn't survive another few weeks wait. Lol


Oh and I found this video on Alienware taking the Area 51m apart. Pretty simple compared to the 17 r5 or 15 r4 as the ribcage seems alot easier to take off. Though it has a ridiculous amount of screws.

 

Guys, I never had this issue before. Its been two weeks ago I've placed the order and they canceled my order and gonna place the new one for the 4th time so far. Today I got email that I have to wait 2 days for status update. I have no idea how much to wait at all and what's going on.

 

Monkeys at the zoo would do a better job then baffoons at Dell sales, hell they can barely speak a legible word of English.

My order has also been cancelled and I got 3 different reasons from 3 different idiots that work there. What a disgrace.

 

This is completely impossible.
The most you can do is to flatten the curve at the voltage point you want locked, all the way to the right. But I'm not even sure if that will give you precisely what you want.

 

When did you guys put your first orders in? I put mine in January 11. And I know someone put their order in on January 10 and it has shipped already. So I'm curious if it's new orders or are some of us just lucky?

 

Mine I placed first time in January 20 and then they started to cancel my order almost every week. Did you get your laptop already?

 

why are they cancelling the orders?

 

No not yet. Mine is still in pre-production. I just chatted with customer service a few hours ago.

Did they give you a reason why they cancelled your order? Seems odd they would unless they have an actual reason.

 

First time I had to prove that I'm the card holder and I proved that, they called to my bank and that guy said that everything is fine, but for some reason they said I'm scammer so we did it again. After that I placed the order again and proved that me is me, they canceled the order cause of power brick issue and so on and so on. So basically, except first time, they saying about issue of some parts, but didn't say exactly. I'm confused about the situation, usually you pay and get your product, this time is like a bad joke. By the way, I don't like how the guys from Dell talk to the customers - they lying too much and speak unrespectable.

 

That is so unprofessional and not the kind of treatment I would expect when buying the most expensive taptop in the world!

Get it from some reputed reseller and be done with this joke man.

 

Typical Dell junk ERP system. Every order i have made has been cancelled at least once. They always make up the reason if asked. There really is no reason other than ERP software is junk, and throughs up red flags for no reason.

I know because our ERP at work is just as crap; and sales gives the same bogus reasons when orders are cancelled for no reason.

 

I think about it, but for me would be better to get directly from Dell cause of warranty. Not sure about resellers, but Dell at least offers warranty outside US if needed.

 

My original order was put in Jan 10th and they cancelled that one 3 days ago ... Now I have a new order with a date of Feb 27th

 

Funny, if I was in the business of selling *anything*, I'd love to hold on to my customers and their orders not find any opportunity to cancel them. They can suck it!