*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

My AW is on the way!
I9 9900K
RTX 2080
144Hz IPS GSync + Tobii
32GB RAM
2x 256 M.2 + 1TB SHDD
LUNAR WHITE

Now I got big question.
I order this laptop Jan 29 all payment was done via phone.
After 4days money go back to my account. I thought order was canceled but no status said Confirmed and today Shipped.
I wondering if they will charge me while I will pick up delivery or maybe there was some bug in their system. hmmm.....
What if I do not have money on my account on delivery day???
Maybe someone can share with me similar experience?
cheers

 

Is laptop shipped already? They take money from your account and give it back and then take again when it shipped. So don't worry about it. The only one thing you can worry about if they want to replace your order like the did with mine and others, but if shipped then everything is fine.

 

The 2080 + 8950HK GT75's use 2 x 230w PSU's:
https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT75-Titan-8SX/Specification

 

Man everyone is getting their units before me and I ordered. Jan 11.
Congrats though. Enjoy.

 

I'm sure you are checking this multiple times a day, but you have checked that the order wasn't held up or canceled?

Maybe call in and inquire, letting them know others are getting their orders shipped ahead of your earlier order, ask what is the hold up? I've done this and if there is a part holding up shipment that I can do without I remove it from the order and that can release the shipment - make sure that doesn't incur a reorder and reset your place in the queue.

 

Status Shipped so shouldn't be long.

 

I've checked twice this week. Both make no mention of it being held up. Couldn't hurt to ask. I'll look for a phone number as I've only tried chat so far.

Oh wait it's saturday. I can't do that today anyway. lol. Curse my work schedule making me forget what day it is!

 

Safety/Environment and Regulatory Guide (English/French Multi-language)
System Software
Lithium Ion (90 Wh) Battery
17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) 144Hz Anti-Glare IPS Display with Tobii eyetracking technology
Dark Side of the Moon
1TB (+8GB SSHD) Hybrid Drive
8GB 2x4GB DDR4-2400MHz
180W Power Adapter and 330W Power Adapter
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 2080 8GB GDDR6 (OC Ready)
Windows 10 Home 64bit English
9th Generation Intel Core i7-8700 (6-Core, 12MB Cache, up to 4.6GHz w/ Turbo Boost)
Shipping Material
Placemat
Killer N1550 Wireless driver
Alienware TactX keyboard with per-key RGB LED AlienFX lighting, anti-ghosting, and N-Key rollover technology
Dell Limited Hardware Warranty Initial Year

 

How did you get it cheaper, are you a student? I got the same config but 9700K and G-Sync included - almost 3000$ before tax.

 

You are like a machine of information! Thanks for the link

 

What country are you in? I order on January 10th and they cancelled my order 5 days ago.... I have a new order now the shows a ship date of Feb 27 in Canada

 

Uuuuh Death Star bro.

I'm in the USA

 

Yes, Brother @Papusan is a machine in every positive sense of the word. He tirelessly supports this community and posts tons of outstanding information. As goofy as it might seem, some people actually get upset with him for doing it, but it is invaluable and everyone should be grateful.

And, that "architectural" limit to the ram you mentioned is totally a load of bull crap. It's an arbitrary limit that they have decided is good enough. Z390 and 9-series CPUs have no issue supporting DDR4-3000 or 3200 SO-DIMM modules... probably even 4000 or 4200 since it is a desktop chipset and CPU. But, not with the crappy firmware provided. With Dell/Alienware you can have anything you want as long as it's exactly the same as what they want. They are extremely Nazi-like in their approach, like a Micro$lop version of crApple.

 

So this is great. I emailed a rep that I have direct email too. He got back to me and assured me no one has their order shipped yet. I told him don't lie to me and told him how a few of you got your orders shipped and had your orders later than mine. So I told him he needs to double check to make sure it's not being held up.

Chances are I'll have to call monday to get a staight answer as this guy is clearly from india so he probably has no idea.

 

They have more guys from India working their than ever. Sometimes is not easy to understand their accent, but also they lie way too much.

 

I’m confused. So does that prove that the RAM is in fact 2400, or is it 2666 but just being used as 2400?

 

Oh I'm well aware they lie. That's why I straight up told him don't lie to me. Lol

 

Read what I quoted on (market yellow in post #1349)... http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...m-owners-lounge.826831/page-135#post-10862265

Yees bro Fox. Not all appropriate my posts. But be you sure... Everything I post around in threads should be +-110% accurate And I always post my honest opinions. If some don’t like it, Oh’well.

 

I personally do not think anyone is getting anything before the 20th or so of this month. That is my opinion and i'm going to stick with it. Any other systems are leak results or "i didn't mean to post" mistakes and would generally cost that person their right to an early release from that point on.

Also, this is one of those times i want to be 100 percent wrong!!

 

Following my tracking I have an eta of the 15th. I will keep you posted

 

I can't wait to see what the BIOS looks like

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Cool! I totally want to be wrong on this! Are you in the US?

Yes Sir! You and the rest of us included, but the one at CES looked ver dismal.

 

nope, UK.

Will give a thorough run down of everything when it arrives. Not great at doing videos but can benchmark and photo for you guys

 

Make sure to do some game benchmarks please. Firestrike is great and all but I'd like to see FPS on some popular titles.

 

Ah, then that might be why the date difference.

Thanks for that, would love to finally see some real user results!

You do know Firestrike does have an FPS score....

 

I requested game fps numbers. Don't take this from me.

 

Looking forward to it!

 

LOL

I know..My bad. didn't mean it in a negative way.

 

I kinda figured. lol. Firestrike numbers and fps numbers don't really help paint a clear picture on how it games run. So I always prefer them. Plus I just wanna know what I'm missing out on.

My desktop is in parts since I'll be trying to sell that soon and all i got is my ipad and ps4. So needless to say I'm anxious.

 

Totally with you on that.

 

Hey guys, hello everybody, new user here, I just order from dell, tried to bargain but looks like I cannot get more than what I can get with my student discount (10%), I really appreciate all the information in the topic because made me think what to do and how to pick my setup somehow.

Location London, uk

i7 9700k
8gb ram
256gb disk
Win pro, 7£
2080
Black (apparently now they charge for the white version 30£ So I went for black)
1080 60hz panel (the cheapest one)
Neoprene 17inch sleeve.
Accidental damage 20£

Total 2368£ (Student discount)

Reason I didn’t go for the higher spec in the screen is because I don’t play games, but I want the machine for mostly work, my stuff involves cad, virtualisation, coding, rendering, ROS, deep learning, etc (software I use usually is Keyshot, Inventor, Unity3D, Robotstudio, AutoCAD, solid works, VMware, rhinoceros 3D and grasshopper, 3Dsmax, and all the adobe suit from photoshop, lightroom to after effects, premier, illustrator, etc)

Most of the stuff using those programs I make them run under the oculus rift so I can work in VR, so I’m not a user much of screens anymore as many programs I listed lately have VR support, so I think I would not benefit for a higher spec screen.

My plan it’s to upgrade later with some Corsair vengeance 32gb ddr4 c16 and a 1tb 960evo from Amazon, do you think my picks are right?

But, my only doubt would be if I pick right 9700k, because the 9900k it’s just a little bit more expensive but I don’t like that would be more hotter and probabbly I will have to turn off hypertreading for some software I use anyways.

 

I and maybe others would like the memory inspected for its part# / label info so it can be checked on for whether it is 2400 or 2666 (running at 2400)


According to Dell.com Press Release, it isn't considered the world's most powerful unless it's running @2666 (lol)


@14min into Jan. 25 Press conference above we're told memory overclocking can happen in CmndCntr (photo); not much sense to OC the memory (or have such an app) if it ships with 2400 rated dimms that can't clock any higher (unless that's a small OC applied over a 2133 base). If yours, Ninja, are rated @2666 it'd be a healthy sign that 2666 will happen later w/firmware update which I do expect to come of course, & when it does, uh, u kinda want 2666 memory in it already waiting, courtesy of them I'd like to think

I hope they're shipping binned 2666s temporarily running @2400 for now, as opposed to not just shipping binned 2400 dims but also selling them (@ those prices), if faster stuff will work later of course. It'd suck if they've forced everyone (or as many as they can cash-in on) to buy slow overpriced memory upfront. I'd be in for the included 8Gb & upgrade meself later to better rated stix for less ... ... ... ty Ninja if u can produce the memory kit info

edit:

9700k / 2080 / 8gb ... good man ... 9900k can come later, be on the lookout for the so-called 8heatpipe heatsink w/side exhausts for 9900k (I call it a 7XL+ = 6pipes + 1 extra-long pipe + side exhaust); yours will either get the 7XL+ due to the 2080 or you'll buy it later from Dell etc (if the 7 or 7XL which yours would get aren't enuff for the top chip, whenever that's installed --> 7 / 7XL don't appear to get side exhaust)

 

I have 32gb of Corsair Vengeance @ 2666 sitting in a box waiting to be smashed into this thing the day it arrives (between Feb 21-26), so hopefully we do get the speed bump!

 

Thanks, indeed, what they are doing with the heatsink it’s a cheap trick, who knows what’s the lottery bringing, when you call the sales say it’s the same for everything, but I’m sure they are wrong.

That’s good idea actually will do the same, start ordering the ram, and will follow as yours 2666 so anyway at the beggining will be capped to 2400 I guess but then later updated by firmware I really think.

 

Of course. I also have 2x 8gb 2666 chips I want to test.

I will also photo heat sink included with my 9700/2070 combo.

I also plan to test what happens if I run with just 180w psu, 240w psu and I am currently trying to source a 330w psu (typically gave mine away to a customer not so long ago!).

As requested I will do game and benchmark tests on both the internal screen and my 1440p 144hz screen

 

I'm just so curious what possible engineering issue came up that forced them to run 2400mhz until a newer firmware update comes along.

It's a desktop chipset. I understand laptops have struggled with 3000Mhz+ modules in the past (my P870DM3 worked fine with 3000Mhz) but 2400Mhz is quite low.

Even the M18xR2 running 2133Mhz could run 2400Mhz DDR3 that was overclocked using Taiphoon Burner @Johnksss @Mr. Fox

 

Hopefully it is something dell will fix in a bios update.
Does seem strange to me too as every other machine they sell (laptop and desktop) has at least 2666 support. I wondered if it was the 4 dimm slots?

 

Hmm, you will spend thousands on a last century's screen technology especially when you do CAD and rendering? Have you ever seen the 17", UHD AUO panel that comes with the AW 17? Seriously the brightness, the colours, the screen clarity on everything from reading text to photos to games.

First the brightness, this thing is so bright I have mine set at 70% in a very well lit room. I have not seen another panel like it. Well my wife just walked in with her MacBook Pro 13" and yet it also has a very good screen. And so has the XPS 15" UHD. But man, those FHD panels are just horrible. We were using those panels back 15 years ago...

Then the colours, when I saw those reds I did not think that colour even existed, then I came to my senses. You have to see it to believe it. All the colours on my screen take another dimension. I have been playing a game for decades (WoW) and when I played first on this panel I thought it was another game, I had never seen or imagined those colours. You just play to look at the colours nevermind the game.

Then there is the 4K clarity on everything you use it for, reading text on forums or emails, or documents, working with CAD, electronic diagrams on screen or mechanics or structural engineering, everything is crystal clear and then you look at FHD and the difference is so noticeable.

The drawback? It is 60Hz and the GTX 1080 can just about cope, and with some games you do not even get 60Hz. However unless you are an FPS player you do not care, and even then.

This is the reason I would not even consider the AW 51m right now, not until it ships with a UHD panel of equal quality to the AUO. And of course the laptop is version 1.0 of a Dell design. Good luck with that. Just to give you an example, the heatsink on my AW17R5 is on revision three. Three revisions on the heatsink and the laptop is not even a year's old (ordered last June, arrived with revision 1 or 2). And you want to buy version 1.0 of a brand new design which departs from the "standard", way, way more than the AW17R5 did from the AW17R4? Madness...

 

I had that panel in my original Clevo P870DM and I agree it's very good. However, if you've seen a AW 13 R3 OLED panel, it's another jump just as much as that 4K UHD was.

 

Why does the much "lesser" AW17R5 come with two side exhausts and this new design does not? Considering they 've been having so many heat issues, it just does not make sense.

 

I first saw OLED on the Samsung 10" tablet and some Samsung phones, called AMEOLED or something, truly marvellous. Then I got the LG 54" OLED TV, it has to be seen to be believed. So I believe you that an OLED screen on a laptop would be the absolute best. I am looking forward for a 4K, 120Hz panel with brightness and colours as good or better as the AUO 4K or the OLED panels. I hope I will not have to wait too long

 

All models since the AW15R3/17R4 have side vents.

 

Right, so why drop the side vents on this new design? How can it harm having better thermals?

 

Awesome! Congrats.
My ETA is on 19th so I will be looking after Your review

 

They didnt drop it on the new models? just no extra heatsinks on the lower end models. But the main "Design flaw" would be on the AW15r3/r4/17r4/r5 is that the base is slightly angled and the feet arent very high, especially if the bottom plate is slightly bowing outwards, it starts to recycle its own hot air on some surfaces. That is why raising the back does so much for the temperatures on these models. Extra airflow from the side is always beneficial in such cases and all models since then have side vents for at least airflow. Only for the previous gen that wasnt always enough. I am actually trying to source some higher laptop feet that fit these slots. 2 to 3mm higher feet already do a lot for our models.

 

So I had emailed another rep and they say my order can not be completed do to part shortages. So I have to call tomorrow to find out what it is. Depending on the part I may try telling them to send it as is and I'll just buy the missing parts. So long as it's memory or ssd related. Depending how this goes I'm very likely gonna cancel and call up hidevolution tomorrow.

 

@Terreos, such big company with part shortages but still accepted orders and even promised delivery date without abilities to fulfilled. I feel so sorry you're facing the hassle. But, really, it always happens this way whenever I order technology stuff. Maybe we got cursed.

Also, talking about RAM clock speed, I'm curious about why 2400 now and 2666 later with a BIOS update coming soon? Sounds weird. And, why not 3200? Are they lost any benefit if they allow that? The way they layout the RAM slots is an issue in my eyes too, they may stack up a lot of heat.

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I must be cursed my friend. I really must be. Don't worry I'll get my hands on a new toy one way or another. But it's clear I need someone like Hidevolution to step in and take my money since these india customer support agents are useless.

And I don't know why they don't support 2666 out of the box. Their other systems support it. Just the nature of the beast?

 

More like a firmware misconfiguration error. There are alot of settings that go with setting up memory for a laptop. Including the top speed. And it sure ain't 2400 Mhz. It's something like 4133Mhz. As to the system running that...I don't think so. At least not yet. The P870TM1 as been as high as 3700 Mhz. And a guy in the MSI thread has gotten to 3467 or 3600 now.

And yes, My P570WM3 was running 2400 Mhz, but I think the very first user was Residualvoltage, so that would make me second in that respect.. That guy was a genius with the ram.

 

Isn't there HIDevolutions guys in this forum? Did they get any yet? If not, when are they expecting them....
Dell keeps cancelling orders to give themselves more time, meaning something is wrong or they really don't have parts.... So I'm guessing HIDevolutions will get their stock when everybody else gets their orders...