*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Well dell got back to me again and said it's a powersupply issue. So I guess the wrong one was used in their system for my order. So when I call tomorrow and they can give me the right one and send it asap I'll forgive them. If however they give me some story I'll canacel and go else where with my money.

Right now my top choices are an Alienware m15 with rtx 2060 from hidevolution and graphics amp or the new Lenovo Y740. They have a 17" 2080 max q version for aroun $2300 and roughly $120 for a three year warranty and accidental coverage. Plus they claim same day shipping. So one of them will gladly take my money.

I can't seem to catch a break can I @hmscott ?

 

Well, that's why I was saying the 20th or so of this month. And was really curious as to folks getting them before then. Especially if in the USA. At CES they said after the 20th

 

Maybe demand has outstripped supply - also not being helped by Chinese New Year and staff holidays perhaps?

I was about to order today (after finally getting permission ), but going to hold on for now and give it a bit more time until I see how things unfold on here as you guys start taking ownership.

Hoping Dell sort this out quickly - but doubt it!

 

DDR4 has been out for so long and I think 2667MHz should be standard when competitors ship out 2667MHz out of the box with factory firmware that works 100% w/o needing a FW update.

 

My order shipped today .. so usually take a week from China to uk.

Looking at the service tag there is no details about the screen manufacturer. I got the 144 screen gsync.

Re memory speed it does say 2666mhz despite 2400 MHz being listed on the dell website (what I ordered).

Wonder if we will get the devision 2 as in uk it now lists as included with tobi eye tracking. (Didn’t list this when I ordered).

 

The problem is, it's just not that simple. If it was, it would have been done a long time ago. Back when we first started asking for higher spec'd ram.

 

Hey bro!
I also waiting for one in UK. Its been shipped yesterday and delivery ETA is 19 February.
Re. memory - on invoice is 2400Mhz but service tag is 2666Mhz
I placed my order on January 29th and that time it was (Call of Duty BO with Intel 9900K) later they change it to (Division 2 with Tobii eye tracking)
I'm sure we will get one of this two games.

 

Just ordered order a Area 51m!

I had it in the basket for over a week, thinking keep my 13r3 or upgrade..

I'm from the UK

Spec list;


Alienware Area-51m

9th Generation Intel® Core™ i9-9900K (8-Core, 16MB Cache, up to 5.0Ghz w/Turbo Boost)

Windows 10 Home 64bit, English, Dutch, French, German, Italian

NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 2080 8GB GDDR6 (OC Ready)

Lunar Light

17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) 144Hz Anti-Glare IPS Display w/ NVIDIA G-SYNC + Tobii eyetracking technology

Killer N1550 Wireless driver

8GB, 2x4GB, DDR4, 2400MHz

256GB PCIe M.2 SSD

180W Power Adapter and 330W Power Adapter

Got it all for £2400 give or take a few quid.


CPU wise I wanted a 8700K (and delid it) but they don't supply them, thinking of maybe selling the 9900K if it's too hot and go through the 8700K route as it will overclocker better and be cooler.... hmmm

 

Delidding the 9900k is much harder than the its predecessor.

 

When re ordering are they giving you the same pricing as before? Asking since I am seeing higher rates for warranty now (as compared to January)

 

I'm looking to buy a new killer gaming rig and the new AW Area 51M looks like it's ticking all the boxes for me.

I have some questions thou, hopefully they are easy to answer...

1. How is the fan noise on the 51M and have AW solved their heat issues?
2. For 1080p gaming, are there any reason to chose 9900 over 9700 and 2080 over 2070?
3. As above, does 9900/2080 generate a lot more heat than 9700/2070?

 

i cant stop refreshing this SCI Track and Trace page every 10 minutes.... max. 10 days2go ^^

 

My wife thinks I'm nuts how often I keep refreshing the Dell status page.... It hasn't changed since January 10th.... Other than being cancelled and re-ordered again 6 days ago... I think I bring new meaning to anxiety....

 

I'll let ya know. Sales and such aren't open until tomorrow. I'm talking with Hidevolution so I'm pretty sure I'm telling dell to go pound salt.

 

Refreshing won't change a thing! But your Wife's eye color will change from No AlienFX to glowing Blood Red AlienFX Eyes and you'll need upgradable Cybernetics based eyes to see the world again.

 

They have holidays now in CHina because of Chinese new year. The factories are closed.

 

They told me story about power supply twice at now they got nothing else to say. I don't understand how HIDevolution has everything and Dell missing parts, but I can't order from HIDevolution, cause they want about 700$ more for the same specs. Maybe better to build desktop and travel with it like a crazy man?

 

1. Probably will require at least a repaste and voltage tuning.

2. No reason to get i9 for gaming, even "killer gaming" won't benefit

RTX 2080 will probably get you to the 144 FPS required to benefit most from the 144HZ display in many games.

3. No one has one yet, but probably. On the other hand getting an RTX 2070 will probably net you a weaker heatsink.

 

Who says HIDevolutions has them? I would imagine they would get their stock at the same time the general public get theirs...

 

I see. Thanks.

 

So Dell launches its most important Alienware line at the very moment their Chinese factories are closed for what, 10-15 days? Chinese NY is 5th Feb until 15 Feb or later even?

 

Unfortunately an industry wide issues, CES is pretty much the perfect launch announcement date but right after all factories in China are closed. I agree, its such a weird thing and kinda annoying when you just spend a ton of money on a product.

 

What exactly did they say when you called? Kinda curious what kind of nonsense their gonna tell me tomorrow. I just got done with a crusade against razer to get a refund with a refund so anyone causing drama with me right now is gonna lose my business. If this pushes back the shipping date I'm out.

Still trying to decide. . .the lenovo y740 is really well priced compared to the others with a 2080max q. And I've heard they make reliable laptops. But, I still have my 1080 ti so a m15 with a graphics amp might be good since I plan on using whatever laptop I get at my desktop.

 

The y740 is about half the price..... Huh, I might jump ship too if Dell keeps screwing around.

 

Look at the MSI trident x. It’s small and portable.


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Because HIDevolution pwns DELL!

Seriously, build a desktop it's better and cheaper for you.

 

And about $1000 less than the asus zephyrus and has g sync. Pretty complete package.

 

Corporate customer also have the 20th as shipping date from Dell...

Aye, we did 2400Mhz in 2012: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/prema-bios-mod-review.667818/page-7#post-8664392

The good old days when imageshack was still free and UEFI just a Legend...

Spoiler

P570WM

W110ER

 

I wasn't implying there is no side exhaust in this new design, in fact there is but it's reserved for the 'highest-end configs' & denied to 'entry' configs ... whatever that formula is

• there is a basic 7pipe (AlienTube tear-down vid)
• China vid said they had an '8'pipe' w/out side exhaust
• '8'pipe w/ side exhaust was at CES

That suggests either three HS variants exist - or - the '8'pipe has two different fan assemblies (w/side & w/out side)

@Papusan pic above w/ 7pipes; pipe#6 is just extra long & because it is I do not wish to call the elongated part the so-called '8th' pipe; I call it the 7XL (7-extra-long / 7-extended) & if it has side exhaust then a 7XL+

(narrator: flip that sucker over & u see '8' majik pipes)

If I simplify this & re-label that extra-long GPU pipe as #7 (right pic) our heatsink (left) reduces to 6.5 pipes once we realize, indeed --> half of it's missing --> the good half! So yes, 6.5 pipes becomes 7 when u order the right configuration

7 becomes 8 >< 6.5 becomes 7​

'8' pipes is Alien Marketing BS (padding their bra / stuffing a sock down their shorts as always); Jedi mind trick, a pipe-dream, language-game & their attempt at a 'construct' ... it's the kool-aid I'm resisting :/

That China vid said the 9700k 2070 gets '8'pipes w/out side exhaust; that extra-long pipe #6 puts the cooling emphasis on the 2070 GPU, where we'd assume the 2080 gets side exhaust on top of it. My hope is that 9700k 2080 buyers qualify as one of the highest-end configs & from there we might wonder what 8700/2080 buyers will get since 8700 is 'entry' CPU

If there are two fan assemblies, then I'd say that Dellware would like to ship the null-assembly to some buyers (as a cost-cut) & sell the side-exhaust assembly after-sale to those who covet it - or - same practice if there are three HS variants (ship Levels 1 / 2 as cost-cut & sell u Level 3 later), all of which is business-as-usual but it'd be nice to know upfront what their formula is outside of 9900k/2080 gets the best, 8700/2060 (2070?) gets the not-best & some intermediate config like 9700k/2070 might get the 7XL- (no side exhaust) --> 7- 7XL- 7XL+ <--

That's exactly what u want to see, proof of binned 2666 kits shipped inside for speed bump later
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lol, there's no fork

 

^^ There's no spoon... 7 pipes with 2 shared ones can look like 8 if you flip it over. The devil is in the details.

 

Man all this talk about the Y740 led me to research it a bit. Seems to be far ahead of the competition in terms of price... They have 20-25% off for military/teachers/students/etc as well. It would be a huge performance hit between the i7-9700k/9900k and i7-8750h and 2080 vs Max-Q, but wow.

Its screen is also 144 gsync with Dolby Vision HDR, plus thin bezel. Super tempted. Gonna sleep on that, the MSI Trident X mini desktop, and the fate of my Area-51m order. Decisions decisions!

edit: Lenovo has an amazing return policy and very functional website... Even their chat sales was legit. Ended up ordering the 2080maxQ 17" y740. Came out to about $2k USD with 3 years warranty+accidental. Should be here within a week... Then I'll see about cancelling the Area-51m. I almost ordered the 2060 variant since it came out to about $1400.

 

During CES presentation Azor said that the Area51m supports XMP profiles... i cant believe that i can order 32gb Corsair Vengeance DDR4-3800 SODIMM CL18 and run it at full speed with xmp...

 

I hope you're being sarcastic...

 

maybe

edit:
ok, fun aside... what do you guys think will be the max ram clock we can run? The 3800 32 kit is cheaper than the 3000mhz kit... lol... maybe the faster Kit can run better timings at lower clocks than the slower kits?

the cheapest 2666mhz kit ( 32GB (2x16GB) Crucial DDR4-2666 SO-DIMM CL19 ) is 229 euros and i ordered the 32GB (4x8GB) Corsair Vengeance DDR4-3800 SODIMM CL18 kit for 257 euros... i think 30 euros is worth a test what the A51m can handle

 

If I understand correctly, 2400 is what we can run now and 2666 is coming in future BIOS update. And, that's it! Nothing more for us

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I really dont know where the problem is. Why do they limit the RAM to 2400? Maybe Performance problems or is it cause of the lazy BIOS programmers?

 

Hey hey, would you be able to give me some guidance on how to get 3000/3200mhz to work on the 6820hk? So far you are one out of 2 users that i've seen able to achieve 3000mhz or higher, the other user was using the evga sc17 laptop.

 

It is all going to come down to the IMC. Any so-dimm kit over 3200mhz is also most likely quad channel for use in mini-itx boards. I haven't seen a single laptop able to run anything higher than 3200mhz sticks.

 

yes this Kit is 4x8gb. But the price was hot and if i can run it with 3000-3200 with decent latency it would be fine. Or would it be better to buy an native 3000 oder 3200 kit?

 

Hmmmmm, if there is a good return policy try the higher rated kit.

 

yeah its amazon ^^ will try the 3800mhz one

 

Sounds good, please be sure to report back with the results.

 

Wow, the Lenovo Y740 is like half the price and ticks most of my boxes. How come the AW is basically double price?

 

I think alot of us scratching our head trying to figure that out right now... Some specs are even better on the Lenovo including Gen 2 usb and 2666mhz RAM

 

I went ahead and pulled the trigger. Lenovo have very generous return policy, so if I end up not liking it, I can always return it free of charge.

I should have it before the end of the week. I'll report back with my impressions.

 

Brand Tax to fund AI/ML/R&Ds.

 

On 32GB 2667MHz and 3200MHz on 16GB RAM.

 

Where is the confusion? One is a laptop with laptop chip and max-q rtx and single power brick. The other is a desktop replacement with desktop processor, non-maxq GPU (apparently OC 'ready') and 2 power bricks.

Re weight; GE75 is lighter than y740 and has non-maxq 2080 in it that can be OCed upto about 28000 score in firestrike graphics score.

 

Clevo's with Prema mod

I think the number 7 is so stressful for Azor and Alienware that they will avoid it at all costs for the highest-end model


You can count the pipes this way as well outside need to flipp the HS over. Just coun't pipes on each part of the unified heatsink (cpu-gpu).

4+4 = 8 as you know

 

Yea, but the GE 75 is 3K plus....


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