*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Someone in this thread did do LM, it only helped a few degrees.

 

It just set fans to quiet mode which caused cpu temps to increase. Yes I did that at 4.9ghz. Is that bad? I thought it was decent but it may be power throttling.

 

You lack at least +100 points if you tested with 4.9GHz on all cores (8700K). Regarding higher cpu temp... You compared and tested with same fan settings vs. previous bios?

 

Did you set process priority to real time when you ran it? That gives a decent boost (80 points on my X1E).

 

LM on a delidded or just factory paste replacement?

 

Factory. Personally I don’t really see a point to deliding a STIM chip unless you’re trying to do crazy stuff.

 

Yay!

 

Put process priority to real time cannot compensate the lack of performance equal +3 bin clock speed in Cinebench with 8700K. He should at lest get +1620 on a not optimized system. I tested... 1639cb in normal priority. From what I mean I have read... The quiet mode in Alienwares will add in an additional power cap besides the normal cap added. Owners of whatever newer Alienware laptops (Coffee BGA models) can maybe confirm this.

Edit. 49x (process priority to real time). +12 point. You will probably get some more if you put process priority to real time on a not optimized system. Or on weaker hardware.

 

Maybe we should ask @azorfrank for 8700k support

Edit: just sent a tweet. Anyone want to help generate demand for it? lol

 

I just noticed it was higher but it's fine now. It does appear to be underperforming but not by a substantial amount. I did not compare it against previous bios. If i had more access i bet i could get a decent bump in performance.

 

Thats ok, sir. Could you if you have the time later post images of advanced menu in new bios? Thanks

 

I personally would like the full feature desktop replacement factor. My comparison is just that the ability to cool the 9900k is difficult even for my desktop water cooling system. I have yet to delid and LM it but. I will say it runs hot.
So with this bad AW design and a hot Cpu. I'd like to be running 5.0ghz all core on it like my desktop for my $ for this laptop..

You would think sense the price of this laptop is so damn high they would either offer an option or charge more and use a All Silver heat sink.

 

This is actually normal... if you remove the “product sticker”, you void your SSD's warranty... LOL!

Most M.2 SSD's stickers have some sort of heat dissipation function, some have a thin layer of copper even!

 

Got my Area 51-m today. 9900K Processor and RTX2080 GPU, 64gb ram, 2tb ssd's in raid. Cinebench score right out of the box after running all updates is 1,976. FireStrike 24,887.

Crystal Disk is showing a 3380 MB/s Read with a whopping 3000 MB/s write.

 

Dope bro, any opportunity to see what heatsink you got bro?

 

what are the temps like and how are the clocks holding? is it throttling or running at the advertised speeds?

 

cinebench got cpu temps up to 87C and they never went higher. Repeated the benchmark 7 times and 87C was the peak. Held at 5ghz virtually the whole time. I didn't see thermal throttling.

Repeated the same 7 runs using alienware command center to OC to 5.2ghz on the upper end, and it held near 5.2ghz and reached 88-89C.

I've used alienware command center to OC the gpu to +175 core and +120 memory and it hasn't broken 73C yet, so I'm happy with thermals so far. Ambient room temp is 72F.

I can't upload pics for some reason here but I can confirm 8 heat pipes, like shown at CES.

 

I stress that all clock modification i've done has been through alienware command center. Haven't tried to do anything beyond that. I don't know that I'll need to seeing the performance I'm getting pretty effortlessly.

 

fan profile set to full, but with automatic ramping via alienware command center.

is there a way to post images here without uploading them to online storage? Haven't really posted here before- just been a thread stalker.

 

I will say going beyond 7 consecutive runs in cinebench sees performance degradation. Beyond 7 runs, my score is 1815, vs the almost 2000 right out of the box string of 7 runs.Voltage maintains 1.23 to 1.26 to the cpu but once heat saturation occurrs (seems to be at the 7 consecutive run mark in cinebench), temps stay in the low to mid 90s, and seems as if thermal throttling does occur to an extent.

Running the OpenGL cinebench test, the GPU heat is well contained. Same performance after 10 runs as the first run. Similar with Firestrike. Seems as if GPU heat is a non-issue. That being said, the 9900K seems pretty well controlled, too, but does throttle a bit after sustained 100% load... Fans don't seem like they're hitting and holding 100% either, though. During the BIOS update, the fans sounded like a jet plane. Even though I have 100% set in alienware command center, they're maybe running 80% or so. Think an extra 20% of fan speed would prevent most of the throttling.

 

Hit the camera button and choose upload a file

 

Says "uploads are not available" with a red box over the typing area. Do I have to have more points on here or something?

 

This is typical Dell. Same problem (work as intended) as with last gen AW17 before Dell went full BGA. I posted a thread about this topic middle 2014.

 

For whatever it's worth, some GPU's that I've owned have had fan speeds increase when they crashed.

If you no longer have to power the GPU because it crashed, then that power goes to the fans.

 

That's... way, way better than I expected.

Under 90c at full load at 5.2Ghz is absolutely insane. And that's all stock with no BIOS/voltage adjustments. And stock thermal paste. Hoping my Thermal Grizzly might be lucky to knock a couple degrees off even that. If I can be at 5Ghz+ at ~85c on load that's a massive win, IMO.

People doing liquid metal have some real fun ahead of them.

 

Damn now I'm thinking about getting one.....

 

"Your product has been shipped
Your tracking number has been assigned."
Awww yeh. I'm probably not keeping this one as it is the one I ordered from Dell. I ordered another from XoticPC which was a much better deal with better ram+nvme. I guess I'll just benchmark the crap out of this one and push it to its limits. Should be here by the 26th.

That said, I'll compare it to the one I get from Xotic and if I see a difference between panel quality (back light bleed, yadda yadda yadda) I'll keep it.

Dell offered me another $230 back on it, which brings it close to XoticPC. Its just that Dell customer service is so, so bad and Xotic is actually quite good from my experience so far.

Also XoticPC updated their site, slightly increasing the price of the Area-51m (as was noted a few pages ago). Also of note is they updated the wifi upgrade to come with a free lanyard (AWWW YEH) and Evo Plus is now an option for the same price as the older Evo NVMe before they updated the page. I e-mailed them and now I'm getting the Evo Plus (I had previously selected the Evo) and a lanyard! Also, they informed me the unit is being delayed until the end of March, which is right around the return period of my Dell unit, so like... That works out kinda nicely.

 

While waiting for my Area 51m my Acer surfing laptop has pissed me off for the last time!

 

You do know the 9xxxk’s are soldered right? Deliding them makes very little difference vs the older pasted chips, and is much more risky.

Bad design? I think it’s quite good for a laptop. Especially a non BGA laptop.

 

Yea in order to get much better temps you have to actually sand down the silicon and that’s way more risk than I would be willing to take

 

Indeed... It's getting into the extreme section of overclockers. I have no idea why you would want to do that in a laptop.

Me, I’ll probably be limiting the 9700k to 4Ghz. Better temps and more than good enough for gaming. Hell, a 8750h on 3.9Ghz is already good enough for gaming.

 

I’m still undecided on 9900k vs 8700k if full support was there for the 8700k there would be no doubt though

 

Same, I will order one delid + conduct though, or see if someone local has the tool that I can borrow. Don’t want to buy it for one use.

 

Still debating whether I should sell my M18xR2 or keep it

Can you please post a pic using something like imgur? We need at least 1 pic confirmation that the CES heatsink is indeed being given to customers.

I already got one on the way soon LOL

Join us

 

I have this thread saved as my browser home page and I will upload pics as soon as I can to an online source and link them here, including the 8 heat pipe heat sink part number, screen shots of thermals, benchmarking screenshots, and general performance observations.

For a recap, I have the 9900K, rtx2080, 64gb ram, 2tb ssd configuration and so far have been very impressed with thermals. Even benchmarking cinebench at full tilt hasn't made it really burn up yet.

My biggest letdown so far has been the lack of Windows Hello. For those wondering, the Area 51m does NOT have Windows Hello login. I am so so spoiled by how well it works on my Surface Book 2.

 

Little glue and some tape and it will be as good as new

 

I wonder if windows hello is a hardware or software limit. Someone here posted saying AW chose not to implement windows hello although it is supported.

I'm assuming it's a software limit otherwise it'd be so dumb if tobii made 2 skus , one that specifically doesn't support windows hello.

 

If it decides to put itself back together I will be ready with my shotgun... Or i will borrow my friends Barrett 50 bmg

 

A bunch of websites were saying that it was supposed to have it when they were talking about it from CES. I wonder if you load the driver's straight from tobii if it would work.

 

Why don't people tweet frank azor and get direct confirmation about the 8 heat pipe and the tobi hello windows camera issue?

 

why don't you do it. I've already tweeted him enough tonight. Don't want him to stop answering my questions lol

 

btw if anyone wants full support for the 8700k Frank Azor pointed me to talk to @bagman317

 

If the 9900k + 2080 does have the 8 pipes; does that mean others got the wrong thing (we've seen this combo before)? Or is the CES cooling gonna be tied to something stupid like having more RAM or storage, too? This could be interesting...

 

Bit the bullet and ended up ordering one directly from Dell instead of Xotic.

9700K
2080
16GB RAM (will replace with the 32GB 2800MHz RAM in my GE73)
512GB RAID 0 with 1TB SSHD (will replace the 2 256GB NVME's with the 2 1TB NVME's in my OG Razer Blade Pro and the 1TB SSHD with the 2TB one in my GE73 and put these included drives in the other laptops)
Win 10 Pro
4 year Premium Warranty
4 year Accidental Warranty (these warranties are the main reason I ended up ordering from Dell. Too good a deal to pass up getting 4 years of each for price of 3. Other reason being Xotic will not even be getting their stock of Area 51's until the end of March at the soonest)

Also bought the Area 51-M backpack and the XL mouse pad.

Got it all out the door including tax for less then 4 grand.

Only thing that sucks is that Dell will not ship a 17" laptop to an APO address so I had them ship to my address with APOBox.com. APO Box will flip the shipment and ship to me through Priority Mail with insurance.

The backpack and mouse pad have already shipped thru FedEx. Laptop is due to arrive at APO Box by 14 March. Once it arrives there I will have it within 5-7 days.

 

Yeah I tweeted him already and he not saying nothing.

 

And Azor needed near 5 years to understand this. I hope he will burn in with all of those already produced new thin 17,3 inch Aw BGA models. The numbers below speak for themself.

 

you might not hear anything until tomorrow. Sometimes it takes him some time to respond

Edit: Although his ears should be on fire right now!

 

Thanks fam, this can really help a lot of us that are wondering what is going on.

It might be because you went for the highest conf you got the big heatsink? But the people that went for smaller setups like the popular 8gb ram, 9900k/9700k, 2080/2070 got the smaller heatsink, but that’s just my wondering.

 

Well i have an 8700/2070 with 8gb of ram being delivered on tuesday but I will be busy that night but as soon as I crack it open I'll take some pics. First order of business is putting in my nvme's and creating a raid then cloning the original drive over to those. Shortly after I will either be throwing in an 8700k or a 9900k

 

btw question for anyone who has the answer. I got the non gsync 144hz monitor. If I upgrade later to the gsync display will that be sufficient to get gsync running or is there something else that needs to happen?