*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Any chance of a English version of this guide? This would solve a lot of issues.

Also a shoutout, I keep having laggy/ jumpy mouse and trackpad movement. Any ideas why that might be? No yellow in device manager, I am pretty sure Iam up to date with drivers.

 

I used the Google translate feature and it seemed to read ok. I assume that didn't work for you?

 

Understood, I'll no doubt break mine as well, hence the apprehension at the minute. Hopefully, someone here can provide what you need.

 

Yeah, one of them are wrong. I hope it's the datasheet one

 

Thank you so much, I just really love learning new stuff I can do to make my systems run better.

I really appreciate all the information.




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Curious to try these modules even with bios 1.5.0

 

I have 2 x 8GB sticks from Hyperx rated at 2666mhz with the JEDEC profile but BIOS 1.8.1 made no difference, both the BIPS and CPU-Z still show the RAM at 2400mhz.

EDIT: Ignore me, missed that you said 1.5.0, apologies.

 

Ill send you my 51m for testing your magic, lol

 

your HX426S15IB2 / 8 memory pair supports three different JEDEC profiles, while the HX429S17IBK2 / 32 supports only the JEDEC 2933MHz

 

https://www.amazon.com/Giryriz-Lapt...J80E90AT90A&psc=1&refRID=8SFTMW494J80E90AT90A

This Advancing Gene Laptop cooler is AWESOME :

The build quality is excellent and the software works well, it actually detects the workload of the laptop and auto adjusts the FAN speed ON / OFF / UP / DOWN …. you can also just set it up manually if you want, nice unobtrusive lights with several control schemes for those that like that sort of thing, it goes really well with the Area51m as it was designed with it in mind,

This is the first laptop cooler that actually blows a LOT of air I mean a LOT, and I have tried about 3-4 of them in the last several years.

If you believe laptop coolers do any good at all THIS one will blow you away, yes it's expensive yes it can get LOUD but I actually think this one is worth it.

 

I tried that Thaiphoon software and it simply refuses to even run on my Area51m, tried Administrative mode still nothing it simply refuses to launch, I downloaded a different copy same thing.

on a side note : am I reading HWinfo correctly ? is my RAM not even running at 2400 ?

It says Maximum clock 1333 but current clock 1196 ?

 

Correct, I have no idea how JEDEC profiles work but from everyday experience surely whatever is reading the profile would pick the fastest/best available?

 

1196x2 ~ 2400

 

Cool thank you, I obviously still have much to learn about Memory these days


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It really is pretty rad. I just wish there was a way to adjust the sensitivity, but if you are an old school overclocker and need something that can absolutely push a hurricane through a laptop, this is it.

Before this AG cooler, this was what I used on my A-51: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cooler-Mas...a=1&pg=2060778&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507

It is excellent as well, and I think is the next best compared to the Advancing Gene cooler.

 

Yes, and it's being looked into, but whether that will bring change is anyone's guess. The person I talk to isn't one of the engineer's so all they can do is report and try to get changes made, but they are very much aware of it and looking into it.

 

Do you know how many degrees of difference it does when you don't use it vs when you use it at max speed? Before I tried 3 different laptop coolers plus 2 vacuum coolers on either side and back, but they barely made a few degrees of C difference if at all.

Now I just raise my laptop above the table and basically get the same benefit. I tried these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01469DJLM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S4F8T7N/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CGZ3349/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

A year into it and its not fixed by now, I would not hold my breath. Fixes like that usually appear in one quarter or less if they are feasible.

 

Has anyone attempted the fan profile mod via HWInfo yet? I'm not sure what the RPM should be for each temperature for each profile (Balanced, Performance, Full). If anyone has had any success would you mind providing a screen shot?

 

"Full speed" = 0 and 3700 for CPU and 0 and 3800 for GPU is possible
"Perfomance" = 0 and 3000 for CPU and 0 and 3200 for GPU is possible
"Balanced" = 0, 1300 and 2800 for CPU and 0, 1300 and 3200 for GPU is possible
"Silent" = 0, 1300 and 2500 for CPU and 0, 1300 and 2300 for GPU is possible

Example-config for "Perfomance":

CPU:
Up to 70 degrees: 0 RPM
From 70 degrees = 3000 RPM

GPU:
Up to 60 (or 65) degrees: 0 RPM
From 60 (or 65) degrees = 3200 RPM

Example-config for "Balanced":

CPU:
Up to 70 degrees: 1300 (or 0) RPM
From 70 degrees = 2800 RPM

GPU:
Up to 60 (or 65) degrees: 1300 (or 0) RPM
From 60 (or 65) degrees = 3200 RPM

None of that is perfect. The original fan control can also use intermediate stages, for example 2200/2000 RPM....

If you have an AU/LG display (G-Sync with old bios possible) you should take the old bios 1.5.0 or 1.3.2

 

Anyone here try Thermal Grizzly Carbonaut on their Area-51m, 9900K + 2080?

B0B's new vid got me thinking about it (thanks for such awesome YT content @B0B )!

 

It was introduced with the 1.6.2 BIOS in July, hardly a year. I'd give it a chance, especially now that Umar says it's on the radar and being looked at. Again, the fact that AWCC gives you the option to increase the thermal limit and the BIOS isn't following that makes me think it's a bug, not working as intended. I think they've created enough controversy with this system that they will start acknowledging and fixing these issues, or it will start to cost them. I think most of these systems are running quite well (especially for those of us still on 1.5.0), but I still see users asking if it's safe because "the 2080 burns out". Unfortunately, once something gets a reputation like this it's hard to recover from, but I'm hoping they do the right thing, address the issues, and try to save face.

 

According to De8aeur it’s about 3°C warmer than Kryonaut. I would need a lot more laptop samples that do not thermal throttle before I could verify this myself but he’s definitely an expert on the matter.

 

Again mate, thanks a lot for providing me with further details on this. Just again to re-affirm my understanding could I set it like below:

Example-config for "Perfomance":

CPU:
Up to 50 degrees 0 RPM
50 to 70 degrees: 1500 RPM
From 70 degrees = 3000 RPM

GPU:
Up to 50 degrees: 0 RPM
50 to 60 degrees: 1500 RPM
From 60 degrees = 3200 RPM

Could this maybe force the fan to kick in stronger, earlier, reducing heat marginally?

 

Unfortunately that is not possible. 1500 RPM is not available in the "Perfomance" profile (in HWiNFO generally), only 0 and 3000 (CPU) / 3200 (GPU) = two stages per fan
Only in profiles "Silent" and "Balanced" there a three stages per fan (1300 is added).

(
" Full speed" = 0 and 3700 for CPU and 0 and 3800 for GPU is possible = two stages per fan
" Perfomance" = 0 and 3000 for CPU and 0 and 3200 for GPU is possible = two stages per fan
" Balanced" = 0, 1300 and 2800 for CPU and 0, 1300 and 3200 for GPU is possible = three stages per fan
" Silent" = 0, 1300 and 2500 for CPU and 0, 1300 and 2300 for GPU is possible = three stages per fan
)

 

I think it really depends a lot on ambient temperature, but my gut feeling is more airflow is better.

And even if it’s only 2-5 degrees that still might be the difference between thermal throttle and not.

I can tell you this new pad is the only Real pad I’ve seen all the rest are toys, but the trade off is it can get loud no way to avoid it moving more air makes noise.


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Speaking of laptop cooling... I have this and while it doesn't bring any airflow of it's own, it raises the back of the machine so that the airflow is improved. I love the simplicity of it, and it's dead silent! ;-)

https://www.amazon.com/Just-Mobile-.../B00292AG4M/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

 

lol I see all of this fan talk and am wondering if I'm one of the only ones that runs on the "Quiet" setting? I like to not hear an airplane when playing lol. I know it runs everything at reduced speeds but doesn't affect my fps much so might as well do it and not have to deal with the spouse yelling that my fans are too loud haha.

 

If you turn on max fans, you won't hear the spouse yelling, so win/win. ;-p

 

Yeah, I'm doing the same, all the way for my i9/2080 A51M.
What's your config ? And what are your temps when playing ?

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I assume it runs almost similar to the AWCC profiles?

I appreciate the help and apologies for all the questions.

 

My config is in my sig..i7 9700 / 2080. I've turned off turbo boost on my cpu so it sits at 3.6ghz (I know I know..I'm going to get a lot of grief from this haha) and underclocked/undervolted gpu to 1550mhz. This gives me temps of around 65C on CPU and 68-79C on GPU. But man, does it stay quiet! I'm impressed at what it can do at such low speeds.

 

Your GPU does get hot tho !
You must be on a 1.5.0 BIOS or older to achieve such temps without hard throttling.
My i9 gets even cooler at 3.6 GHz, on some games I don't surpass 55°C but my GPU sometimes throttles at 75°C (I'm playing on a 3440x1440 monitor)

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Yep I'm on 1.5.0. GPU getting heated is always the struggle...I just re-pasted with Phobya Nanogrease too. I was reaching temps of upwards to 87C before doing that. When I'm at home I'm also gaming on a 27inch monitor at 1440p res.

 

I leave AWCC in balanced thermal. With Advancing Gene cooler in auto mode but Enhanced Mode unchecked (limits fan speed to 50%), 3 cores hit 90c and the remaining were from 81c and up.

With the AG cooler set to manual and at 17%, 3 cores hit 96c and the coolest core was 89c. The temp in my office is 77f.

I did 3 runs each of Cinebench R20 and these were readings from the third run.

I normally leave the AG at 17% and will bump it up for gaming to around 35%-41% but AWCC is always set to balanced.

Amazon has a good return policy but my guess is that you won't return it because I went through a few coolers before this one as well.

 

Just use the forum search function or Google http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-1408#post-10934472

 

Thank you very much!

 

Gladly, no problem

Yes, it runs very similar to the AWCC-profiles.

btw. I have made a mistake:
Not correct: 3000 on GPU (Balanced profile)
Correct: 3200 on GPU (Balanced profile)

 

@Prema this is what i need, isnt it?

 

So that cool bar is like a screwdriver without the handle?
Just lifts the back off the surface?
Hence air flow access to bottom fans increases?

 

Once you get it sorted you can send it to me and I will test its stability over the next few years if you like

 

Yes. You could really just a round wooden bar is whatever, but then you’d lose bragging rights about your steel rod. ;-)

 

Its $176!!!

 

Simply raising your laptop just even on the back makes the biggest difference for most game laptops with air flowing in the bottom. Too many systems with the fan underneath can simply disrupt airflow into the units fans from what some folks say so depending on the laptop design they really hurt more than they help. I think most cooler-based fans are for cooling units with no underneath flow like a Macbook, XPS Duo type units, etc. Gaming laptops are engineered for flow but all seem to do better elevated slightly in the rear.

A problem which was artificially created to solve another core design issue isn't apt to get a fix after its been an issue for 3/4 of a year if Dell history is any guide in my experience...

 

With the Area-51 design... More air via the bottom means less air will flow over the power delivery (see.. the wimpy black heatspreader below keyboard/palmrest for GPU).

 

My experience has been that a lot of people will gladly pay a small amount $20-30 multiple times on cheaply made things hoping to find a gem, but will balk at spending a few hundred for something cleaver and well designed.
My guess is there will not be a lot of these made, maybe only a small test batch to see if they sell while the Area51m heat problems are a hot topic ( pun intended ), and then they will be gone.

I actually think its worth the price, they designed it well built it out of good materials and even took the time to make it smart with circuitry and wrote software for it that works at least as well as AWCC, PLUS even if you don't like the software of their fan profiles you can still use it manually and set your own fan profiles and just plug it in when your doing something intense like CyberPunk 2077

The rest of the time it's a great laptop stand looks better then anything else out there and matches my Area51m.

I don't mind one bit supporting a business that makes cleaver useful things, I want to encourage them to keep making things.

With the way it's going we will all be ready to replace these Area51m's by the time they fix anything LOL, oh well can't win them all it's still much better then what I had before and since I can't have a desktop in the tiny place I live right now it's one of the best I could have gotten, ….. seriously going to be looking for something that runs Prema MOD BIOS for my next adventure though that's for sure.

 

Same

 

This makes no sense to me - the temps on CPU/GPU are better with the back raised.... do you mean forced via a cooler?

 

I know the Cpu and GPU is headed at the bottom vents.

But the GPU power delivery... Is sandwitched between MB and keyboard/palmrest. The more air the fans can get from the bottom, the worse airflow will come from the grills under the panel (meant to cool the black tiny GPU heatsink). And if done the opposite... If you covered most of the bottom holes the fans would take more of the air from the vents below the panel. Aka you would get more air around the black tiny GPU heatsink. The design.. It's about balancing the airflow.