*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Dell Graphics Form Factor. Dell’s proprietary graphics card design.

 

Open Command center and then click Fusion. It should show the speed

 

Dell shipped my unit before I could change the memory to the faster memory. I just have the standard 2400 mhz.

I was asking about how to change the boot device for the new ssd, I Cant get it to work.

Does anyone have a guide how to migrate/clone an OS on the area51m from start to finish from an sshd to an nvme. Samsungs data migration software did not work, I tried using reflect and all that did was make a clone of the same drive and it shows up in windows as dive D lol...sigh....

 

I'd just re-install Windows 10 from scratch and forget about cloning the Dell drive. Create a bootable USB, remove the drive that came with the laptop and only have the new drive installed.

 

Because MXM standart is too mainstream

 

i dont want to mess with bios updates and all that crap. Dells stock OS is working fine. Iv been playing BF5 for last few hours, its working the way I want it, temps are good I just need to get rid of this 20 dollar sshd in a 3k laptop! If someone could make a quick video or guide that would be great migrating dells stock OS from sshd to a SSD, I have the nvme 970 EVO

 

I'm betting you the so called upgradeable laptop that they sold us won't be upgradeable as they claimed when Azor was with them

 

Well it's sad but we kinda knew : the Intel CPU series was near the end of its lifespan. No doubt the next gen will mean a new MB as well and there will be no plan for our first gen A51m. I also doubt the next GPU will be compatible.

"I wasn't expecting anything but I'm still disapointed"

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CLEVO-P750...M-3-1-100x124mm-GPU-UPGRADE-KIT-/132960535674

 

Let me find another post I made... I did the exact same thing as you... SSHD>clone to NVMe>wipe SSHD and set up as secondary storage.

Gimme a few!

[mention]G46VW [/mention] See above man. Hit the “linked post” button so that you are taken to the original post. There is a series of back and forth messages between [mention]RMLJD [/mention]and me. There’s at least 1-2 more posts prior to the quoted above, and then multiple back and forth after that, just keep scrolling and you’ll see the entire conversation between us until success.

Ask if you have any questions!

 

There's no "power" in a thin client, its a remote screen. Now don't get me wrong, you are correct, Cloud will be the norm before long, but there is no "power" in a thin client. A sad day unless you are a Zoomer, the fun of using PC's will be something that younger generations will never experience. It's going to be about like the joy mechanics had with tuning sports cars with combustion engines, perhaps less powerful and inefficient as a electric, but oh so satisfying to get working.

FWIW, I do believe that Cloud gaming will still be a 2-part, hybrid configuration for high-end gaming. Off-loading certain rendering locally _still_ makes a lot of sense than in the Cloud, so I am not 100% sure it will be purely Cloud rendered with simple screen scrapes in many cases. The problem with the Cloud is, well, it depends on endless uninterrupted bandwidth.

 

Also, completely disregard what I said about moving the windows partition all the way to the right if you want SupportAssist OS recovery to work. I tried this and it turns out SupportAssist has 0 intelligence and the start and end of the Windows partition is denoted hard coded as starting block and ending block, plus needing to change other properties in a config file that needed to be super precise (0 margin for error) for it to work. It was too much work to figure out and I just kept all partitions from the SSHD cloned exactly the same size and in the same order.

Yeaaah... until fast internet connection becomes ubiquitous, cheap/free, and it reaches every centimeter of the Earth, there will be a market for PCs/Consoles that render content locally.

This is exactly why mail in DVD rentals + Magazines are STILL a thing. There are still people and places that prefer those and although they are dying businesses, they still rake in a lot of money. The lack of access to internet (or simply fast enough internet) makes cloud gaming still some time away (I think ~10 years at least) from widespread adoption (e.g. cloud gaming being more market share than non-cloud).

 

For only $1800 CAD..lol...

 

unlike the DGFF which are not even available at this point lol....

it looks steep, but the actual price is around the 1200 euro's, or 1240 us dollars.
It falls perfectly in line with the previous mxm cards, which where a bit cheaper (around the 1000 euro's/dollars)

 

5G adoption will help a lot, so urban centers will be able to leverage it fairly quickly, but for folks outside in more rural areas, it is more of an issue. I mean, for 1080p gaming, the bandwidth is fairly low unless you are now talking sending a constant stream of renders.... I think the first wave will occur within 3-5 years, but I agree its about a 8-10 years out for widespread.

Your phone will be the conduit for all this communication, with a nice foldable screen about the size of an iPad mini, but it in turn will just be the computer you lay near your big screen and wireless peripherals.

 

Hello,

So he replied to me and it turns out he set up AWCC to automatic from the beginning. Therefore it's still not a fix for his keyboard disconnections...

 

I know, I wasn't defending one vs the other, I just like to laugh at the price of current gen GPU's. Nvidia is greedy money sucking corporation

MXM has ALWAYS been expensive, the entire time I have been in this forum MXM upgrades have been high.

 

Ah neat I did not know there was a MXM 2080

 

Alienware is Stuffing Intel's 10th Gen Core i9-10900K in the Area-51m 2 Laptop w/ NVIDIA's RTX 2080 Super

 

Finally lol!

Anyone who purchased/received your unit in the last 30 days, if I were in your shoes, I’d return it lol!

Probably what you’ll see in the R2 is the top of the line 10th gen i9 scorching hot and still being a pain in the butt, but more than likely at least the RAM speed will be higher, the 2080 Super likely won’t be gimped with lower temp limits, and you can get a decent 10th gen CPU that runs cooler (and faster than a 9900K).

My 2 cents!

 

https://www.hardwaretimes.com/alien...e-area-51m-2-laptop-w-nvidias-rtx-2080-super/

looking forward to see what cooling solutions they'll employ.. maybe it'll be that new vapor chamber based heatsink which there where some images leaked from ?
Or it'll be an entirely new solution..

 

Knowing them they'll want 2000€ more compared to what I've paid for the R2 with i9 + 2080 Super combo (at least here in Italy), faster RAM would be the only sell point for me but I don't think it's gonna be much faster, hopefully I'm wrong. Either way the difference in performance will never justify the difference in price so I'm good (but I do need more RAM).

 

I swear this guy would fellatiate the razor core if he could. Clearly hates AW.

And his delivery makes me just...loath him at first sight. I have nicknamed him "sister in law".

At least he had the integrity to admit the AW crushed the core.

 

Buying straight from Dell in Italy you think they will still jack up the price that much??? That’s outrageous!

My biggest driver to return and get an R2 if I had purchased an R1 recently (still able to return) is that I wouldn’t have to make tradeoffs of [higher throttle points] vs [RAM speed] vs [Gsync] when deciding on which BIOS I will use it, which is just a shame haha. I have no option but to be on 1.5.0, and I’m fortunate that I still have GSync. For me there is 0 value to sell R1/Buy R2. But if I could return it, knowing what I know now, and get an R2, I would return it and get an R2.

AAAND, maybe you’ll see even higher refresh rate screens, who knows! 240 Hz FHD? Or if higher resolutions at 17 inches are your thing, maybe QHD? 4K?

Just my opinion

 

These "Clevo is better"than Dell post just never get old to me.

In a way I have to almost admire the devotion a CE brand. Its kinda sad too of course.

The only things i am this passionate about are family and the Eagles.

This on the other hand is a well sorted well reasoned post.

Note....not a single negative comment about the brand...no hint of an agenda or pushing the "big C".

Kudos to you sir!

Oh...and agree!

 

Prices here are crazy no matter who you buy from, buying a base model iPhone 11 Pro (999$ in the US) will cost you 1,304.39$ converted. That's the main reason I did not buy this laptop last year when it came out, models were going above 5K€ easily, I expect no less with this refresh.

 

Another example of a well phrased post. Although the conclusion is the Dell design is flawed, You expkian why with pics...and acknowledge it is better then the competing Clevo design. Again...no hint of an agenda.
Some posters here could learn from this example.

On a long car ride today...so
Today is my day to call out "Clevo is better" and unwarranted Dell bashing posts.

 

A different set of problems to deal with most likely, and no, I am not being negative with sour grapes, I just don't trust Dell now.

I would be _very_ surprised if a larger degree of throttling doesn't exist than people expect in the R2.

 

How dare you use facts!

I don't have an interest...Clevo is better..

Sometimes irony is....pretty ironic.

 

They are a sponsor, he kind of has to I think sadly.

 

Hahahaha

Yeah, the equivalent of the 9900K (10990K? Or whatever it is, too lazy to check for accuracy) if I remember correctly has an even higher TDP lol, meaning... a lot more heat!

I think the killer combo here is the 9700K and 2080, so on the R2, whichever the equivalent is on 10th gen CPU and the 2080 Super.

I’ve dabbled with turning off HT on my 9900K and OC to like 5.3 GHz I think, WITH an undervolt. Runs beautifully and cooler than with HT on at 4.9-5.0 GHz OC (which needs more voltage to even manage those clocks).

In the end though, I’ve kept my 9900K at stock clocks with an undervolt, as there are some games that do benefit from HT. There’s results/tests/a graph floating around in the internet of someone who determined if HT helps with FPS, and there is a point at which it does and doesn’t.

I think punchline it was like 8cores/8threads was indeed providing less FPS than 8cores/16threads. But on 4c/4t vs 4c/8t the difference was negligible. I’ll look for a link and share... maybe that gives purchasing guidance for those watching this thread trying to decide if they buy an R2 with a HT processor vs non-HT.

 

My AGA arrived today, it's so much bigger than expected but I've mad eit work on my desk. Using it as a docking hub only for now until the 3080ti comes out, happy to see that it works though considering what I paid for it. Still had the peely plastic on it and everything.

 

It goes both ways though, there are people that will push Alienware just as feverishly. People are welcome to their opinion, I just surprises me when they come try to convert the other side. It's like a religious person showing up at my door to tell me how I should believe in what they do

We see it all on Reddit. Tons of people from every different brand show up and push their opinions. We let most of it slide, people can have their opinions and feel free to share them if they keep it civil. Where I draw the line is when they start getting in people's face about it and turn it into a personal crusade.

 

At least you can offset often half the cost with what you already have.

Come out with a cost at $500-700 for prolonged hardware life isn't exactly very cheap, but still much cheaper than throw over the double on a new machine (even if you offset the cost with your old machine "if it's still alive" → <BGA>).

I try hold high quality in all my posts. Thanks

 

The build quality is meh, but the additional USB ports are a nice to-have with it.

 

Don’t those USBs take bandwidth away from the card itself? Or does it have another, separate cable to connect to your PC aside from the AGA cable?

 

So would CPU/GPU be drop in for the R1 51m?

 

For the new ones you mean?

The CPU is only replaceable if you had a lesser CPU then the 9900k, Intel changed the socket again so you can't use a 10th gen CPU in the Z390 boards, cuz Intel.

The GPU is an unknown at this point, but if it's compatible it should be a matter of dissembling the laptop, removing the DGFF GPU and replacing with the newer version.

 

I had the same reaction!.

I got mine off ebay. Buyer assured me it was NIB. Well...it was. Except absent the cable!

He refunded my money but did not ever send me return instructions...i gave up after the 3rd request for them. So it only cost me the cable price.

It is a tad rickety when open. But fact is, nce u install the card and close it. How many more times will u need to open it?

For the price point and what it is they did well. Its a niche product after all...

 

Isn't this new Intel socket going to be for only one generation until they move on to 10nm or 7nm?

 

Rocket lake before the swap. Intel want 2 gen chips on same socket. And No point make its customers more angry than necessary.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-g-owners-lounge.831618/page-25#post-10998361

 

I´m hoping alienware will refresh the AGA sometime soon but not expecting it.

 

Dear God my hope has finally come....hope to hear more on the R2 soon. Hope it can be upgradeable to new Nvidia graphic cards 30xx!!

 

All im getting is a blue screen when i change the boot priority with my newly created boot nvme from windows boot manager.

 

Since you just got the Laptop. I say you return it for a refund and get the revision 2

 

lol there is just a setting that needs changed, all i need to do is transfer the OS to the new SSD. I dont want plundervolt effecting me either.

 

Did you follow all the steps in the exact order? From the posts I was referring to... should be straight forward, that’s odd

 

When ever I change priority #1 from what it currently is, windows boot manger, to the nvme i created it blue screens...I installed the nvme driver after cloning though..Do i need to re clone with reflect?

I bought some usb sticks today, can I just load a new OS install, and load the image I saved with say like acronis or amoei? Been awhile since I have done this although I have done it quite a few times.

Also Im not seeing the priority and secondary stuff u mention in bios. There is the boot sequence stuff, with the first one being windows boot media, then two nic things for #2 and #3

This is grooling work, its why I always just let the manufactuer screw with this crap but dells offerings for HDD is horendous, so bad I couldnt justify doing it.

My cloned drive is showing up as D though, is it not suppose to do that,

Can I just do a fresh install with the sshd disconnected then use an image from acronis as a workaround to this crap?

 

Boot sequence would be the priority.

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