*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

Keep ya thermal issues

 

Lately I've been using Throttlestop profiles a lot. I have one profile for 4.7ghz and one profile for 3.8ghz. The 3.8ghz temps are generally almost 10C lower than the 4.7ghz profile, especially with under volting.

What I've found, playing Cyberpunk 2077, Dishonored 2, Greedfall and a lot of other games is that there is hardly any difference in FPS when playing at 3.8ghz than when playing at 4.7ghz; I mean it's not even noticeable and the temps are WAY lower at 3.8ghz.

So if temps are bugging you when gaming, don't worry about having a max'd out CPU clock speed at all. It really doesn't make much of a difference. That said, the temp reduction at 3.8ghz is massive. Playing Cyberpunk 2077, 1080p on the laptop screen at 4.7ghz, I see temps peaking around 76C - 80C. Dialing the CPU clock speed down to 3.8ghz sees temps peaking around 64C - 65C and again, no drop in FPS worth even mentioning. Even simply disabling turbo/boost, also via throttlestop, will give you a significant drop in temps with pretty much the same FPS across the board as when running at 4.7ghz+.

That being said, should I edit/render video, process images in photoshop or other math/CPU intensive tasks, I simply right click the throttlestop tray icon and enable the 4.7ghz profile as clock speed truly does make a big difference in these productivity type applications.

Might be old news but thought I'd mention ...

~s1rrah

 

nice, I have an i9 9900k that runs all cores at 4.7ghz stock out of the box. I experimented a bit with Win11 and decided I didn't like running throttle stop all the time as a scheduled task, so I found a power command that will downclock the CPU ever so slightly to 4.5ghz and shaved off 10-15C easy, with no noticeable decrease in fps across the board. Our cpu are capable of the windows command but older cpu's are not. here is what I ran 1 time.

powercfg /setacvalueindex scheme_current sub_processor PROCFREQMAX 4500

 

Does anyone know the difference between 144hz gsynk and non-gsync lcd cable? is the cable lcd gsync the wiring is different?

 

hi guys, has anyone managed to install kubuntu (or any other distro) on their area 51m, with the latest bios? i cant seem to install anything. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1360067/unable-to-install-any-sort-of-linux-on-area-51m-r1

 

If it's a fairly new monitor and PC HDMI 1.4 should work, if it's older you may need DisplayPort 1.2 cable.
Yes they are different.

 

I have not tried dual boot setup on my Area 51m, but all distros I have used run flawlessly under VMWARE virtual machine, do you have a specific need to dual boot ?

 

i need kvm, tried hyper v but the performance just isnt there. plus im used to kde, and windows is just messing with my workflow.

 

in fact I was talking about the internal cable of the area 51m (edp 40 144hz gsynk vs edp40 144hz n-gsynk)

 

I can't figure this stuff out, could you point me to the bios chip? I think it's the one labelled UT2 but I would like to be sure.

Also, even though I wasn't able to find exactly what I was looking for, I was able to understand some of this so thank you very much for posting it.

 

It's been a while but I believe you could order the Area 51m with or without Gsync so I expect both are out there. If the part numbers are different then they are different.

 

Ahh ok, well if I was going to do it I would back up my drive, / format / partition / install GNU GRUB.
Restore backup Windows partition first and make sure it works and boot loader operating / then have at it with whatever distro you prefer.

If your going to have any trouble with anything it will be the Windows / I can't be sure that DELL has not done something non standard that may cause you grief, as I said I have not tried it myself on the Area 51m but I have done lots of multiboot desktops in the past.

In theory it should work fine, however DELL. YMMV.

 

Anyone else notice an issue with Windows 11 you come back to the computer to find fans at full speed and frozen with screen off? only way to bring it back it hard power down. Windows is unable to create mini dump.

 

You're Microsoft's guinea pig. Don't expect this pile of trash will work properly before several months into 2022. The new Apple copy cat OS is ridled with bugs http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-11-pro-a-laymans-review.837074/#post-11128506

 

I'm replying to myself here so y'all can see what I'm doing... I flashed 1.3.2 and bricked my machine, got a ch134a programmer and am attempting to revive it.

If anyone has a Rev 2 motherboard, could you give me a bin copy of your 16MB bios chip or if anyone knows how I can get one that'd be great too? I have revived my computer but all I could find online was a Rev 1 bin file and it's not working quite right. I figured I couldn't make it any worse than the brick it already was by flashing that file. Thanks in advance.

 

why not buy directly a bios chip already programmed on ebay it is not very expensive we can find it for less than 28 dollars

 

I don't have a good soldering iron and I'm not very good at soldering. BTW, I'm replying from my Area-51M. The only issue I'm having right now is booting up is taking about 15 seconds longer than it used to, pre Alienware screen.

 

What happens if you reflash your bios with the bios available on the manufacturer's site dell?

 

I already flashed back to 1.5.0 and this is the result. I also forgot to mention that the service tag in bios is wrong now.

 

Your very lucky the MB survived. I have warned many times to avoid flashing bios 1.3.2 on newest versions of 51MR1. 1.5.0 bios will give you the same advantage and it's safe.

 

try this method to restore your original service tag


https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=c31j4

 

I don't have this issue

 

I have tried that, but i cant get anything to boot. the way i know it wont boot is because when the rgb lights are set to 1 colour (ive set mine to a mix of blue and red) when booting it goes all rgb and multicoloured till an os is booted. now on my first boot sometimes it works, but then any subsequent reboots dont; they just hang with all the lights flashing. using grub recovery options it remains stuck at loading initial ramdisk. ive changed windows to cold boot off or whatever its called by default, and hibernation is disabled. could be that when i switched from raid 0 to ahci i just changed it in the bios, without safebooting and using bcdedit or whatever its called

 

The motherboard didn't survive, that's why I've had to do this. I had the 2 red 1 blue blinking power button.

 

I will try this when I get a chance, thank you.

 

Ouch, what about restoring the Backup and all settings back to original everything back to normal?

The OTHER option to try would be a fresh Windows install after putting in the bootloader instead of restoring backup.
I hope your not saying that you backed up a RAID 0 configured drive and attempted to restore to a system configured with AHCI settings, that will not work.

 

as soon as i got the machine, i switched from raid 0 to ahci in bios (with only 1 m2 inside). i didnt safeboot or anything, cos i didnt know you had to do that. i then bought another m2 and a 2.5 and have been trying to install loonix on the other m2. i do have a backup of windows but thats ahci. what im going to try now is pull out all my other drives except the original windows one, change back to raid 0 from bios, then reboot and then change from raid 0 to ahci the proper way (safebooting and bcdedit). and then try installing kubuntu again; hopefully it ends up working.

 

when you have installed lunix, did you change the boot mode, you have to change it and put the boot on the lunix partition and only there you can have the windows or linux boot option! modify the boot partition in the bios and normally it should be fine

 

yes i have the linux m2 as the primary boot option, since from grub i can choose windows and bios. grub works fine, its after selecting linux nothing happens.

 

Hello guys I got an Area 51m with 9900k / 2080 and graphics amp with 6800xt. I've disabled the 2080 and there is a ton of thermal headroom with the 9900k now. I sit at 5ghz all core and hover around 70c In timespy / firestrike (when the cooling solution actually works on this laptop it works VERY well)

However when I try 5.1 / 5.2 etc all core via throttlestop (which I'm confident It can do) It never boosts past 5ghz. Is this something locked in the bios? Am I missing something silly?

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/26648020

 

if you are truly running 5ghz all core you should be hitting 26k+ cpu score in firestrike: https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19316903

Also there's no limit stopping you from going over 5ghz. Here's a 5.3Ghz cpu-z validation: https://valid.x86.fr/9brbj6

We are merely limited by the current limit.

I am of course on BIOS 1.5.0 which is the last high performance BIOS for GPU. Not sure on CPU performance.

 

update: so i tried again for the 50th time and i realised the issue is NOT nvidia drivers, rather a package. every other time i was installing, the first thing i did was sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade. but sudo apt upgrade is what breaks it. i have ~300 packages left to upgrade, so ill do some trial and error and see what breaks. most likely some sort of lib or maybe grub or systemd.

 

Newer BIOS's introduced fixes for Intel screw ups in the form of security updates, and several of them actually reduced CPU performance. I think 1.12 was a particularly bad one as I rolled back from that one after I saw how much it influenced my CPU scores on 3DMark, it was a pretty big hit. The older BIOS's are definitely where it's at if you want the best performance.

 

another update, managed to find out the offender. its either grub or shim. since they all depend on each other, i cant really say for sure which one it is. im going to do a bit more trial and error, and maybe open an issue.

 

/ sudo apt update / only updates the list of available packages, / sudo apt upgrade / installs the updates, if you scroll back through the onscreen log immediately after attempting to / sudo apt upgrade / you should be able to determine where it is failing, often it's a missing dependency issue.

 

Any black Friday deals to improve R1?

 

sorry i didnt explain it properly, it installs fine without any issues. but on the next boot for some weird reason im unable to boot into ubuntu (even recovery mode). windows and uefi works fine. ive held the packages for now, gonna do a bit more digging to see what the issue is. the hard thign is thjat i cant collect any logs, since it isnt even attempting to boot in the first place.

 

i never came across anything to be honest, though i did order some thermalright thermal pads from aliexpress. came to 20 quid including vat

 

Good evening! My Alienware has a 2080 RTX and Windows 10 in its configuration and since its purchase almost 2 years ago I have had some problems. In one of them, several games show sudden FPS drops during Gameplay for a few seconds, dropping from over 100 fps to approx 15-20 fps for about 30 seconds. I've updated drivers, reinstalled Windows, thought the problem might be G-Sync, 144hz, vsync, GAME mode, but nothing fixed. Does anyone have any idea what it might be?

 

Yes, you are dealing with the ever so common thermal throttling. First thing we need to do is check what vBios you are on...I would highly recommend 1.5.0 on the R1 (it's what I've been running for over 2 years). You can set your GPU throttle point to 87C instead of the 77C you are dealing with now. If you just do a quick search on this forum it will describe all of this in detail and what you need to do.

 

I am using VBIOS v1.0.0.5 - nVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 and Alienware BIOS 1.15.1.

 

Thermal throttling on the GPU that was implemented on every BIOS past 1.5.0. I would start with a good repaste, get that out of the way first, then if it's still doing it you can look into downgrading the BIOS, but I don't know if it's possible from 1.15, I have not tried it since 1.12 and that was dicey for me on that version.

 

hum... just had a few bad fps drops and stutters playing Destiny 2 which doesn't usually happen. checked temps in AWCC and cpu and memory clock had 777 listed on every gauge but GPU still was reading like normal. restart didn't fix it but re-installing OC controls did. all is normal again. hope that doesn't come back.

 

I created a new Overclock profile in Alienware Command Center, but the "GPU throttle point" option is locked, preventing me from changing from 75c to 87c. Any guidance on how to unlock this function?

 

Yo dude, it looks like you arrived a bit late on this forum. Your concerns are mainstream here and concern EVERY Area-51m. You can browse here and find all the answers to your question as it's been discussed for months!
Let me find you the first key to unlock your device :

Envoyé de mon SM-G965U1 en utilisant Tapatalk

 

Just used this site: https://minerstat.com/hardware/nvidia-rtx-2080

Looks like only 0.14AU a day profit from mining card on R1..... correct?

 

I mine on mine daily and do about 42 mh/s on eth. It averages around $3/day.

 

Yeah but electricity aint 18cents/kwh your way

 

nah 11.7 cents/kwh here.

 

Any idea if I can revive a battery ? Switched on the laptop an it reports battery experienced permanent failure. Battery wear is reported at 22% in hwinfo.

I took out an dell extended warranty in April an no were does it say battery is not included in the warranty.

Anyone had issues with there battery that bought this unit in early 2019? I.e aware of any battery recalls etc ? I never used it on battery but I know they still degrade.