*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

What he said... "desktop and a $1500 gaming laptop" I expect he will take the laptop when he is out and...

 

Mine too

UV 9900K and UV + OC 2080, replaced pads and paste. Running like a BAWS

 

Hi all,

Just got my Area 51m 64GB 2080 1TB SSD and 1TB SSHD
So far:
1. Did all updates both Dell and Windows.
2. Had to reinstall Killer Control centre as Error appeared from doing the Dell updates?
3. Updated to Windows 10 Pro
4. The tobi tracking OR is the screen causing eye strain?
-Have lowered the brightness but still persists, why?
-Have not installed the tobi app or taken the plastic off tobi area.
5. Now what Fusion setting do you have yours set on?
Currently streaming a series, playing youtube video, have an android game open, 7 websites and transfering 500GB from external sata via usb to SSHD drive.
Have it Overclock off in Command centre(Home) but Fusion has green on OC1, High performance and Performance thermals and the CPU fan is pushing 100C?
How do I get the CPU temp down?
Have it sitting on a couple of mats on table.

 

No offense, but I can't really tell if your asking questions or making statements with your punctuation. But congrats on the new laptop!

 

If it's night time, try turning on night mode for windows 10 in the display settings.

Idk if Dell did something with the newer ones but they should have "eye care" which should reduce strain not increase it.

For temps, turn off OC level 1, and leave it at stock. Should perform just as good and reduce temps. You can try undervolting CPU by -100mV as well using Intel XTU or Throttlestop.

 

I don't have a stock option?
Front screen says Overclock OFF but Fusion has green on OC1?
It just says Overclock 01, Overclock 02 and New Profile in Fusion?

Edit: Updated original post......
Still 100 degrees 4.69 CPU and transfer finished and tv series playing finished...usage 30-47%?

 

Overclock off sounds right. As long as it's off on the front screen, it should be off.

 

New Asus Laptop uses Quadro RTX 6000 24GB GDDR6 (at 220W+) w/ Core i9-9980HK in relatively thin body. Seems NVidia are pushing new thermal design with Titanium vapor chamber.



Also, a UHD 120Hz screen! Just imagine this in a Gaming Laptop.

 

Do I need to restart to get the CPU off 100 degrees?

 

Have you tried using Throttlestop or XTU to undervolt the CPU?

 

I have done nothing more other than stopped Witcher 3 on Ultra and now hovering on 48 degrees!

 

Give this a shot, different CPU but same method can be used for yours. @B0B is to credit for this -

 

Just switched to night mode...turns blue light off and my sore eye feels better already,...inn total other than screen of laptop! Does this screen emit larger than normal blue light?

 

Less than that big orange ball outside does...

 

I pimped cooling by adding an additional flat heat pipe to balance out both fans better as I saw in gaming always a hotter air exhaust at the gpu side. Now it's more evenly distributed on both heatsinks, meaning in gaming sessions the CPU heatsink and fan are supporting the gpu better, more similar to the original design of the prototype shown at CES.
Second picture showes Control maxed out eveythyng at 1080p, temps are excellent with a mild cpu undervolt of 120mV and 2080 overclocked. Gpu stays at around 2 GHz. Not bad for a notebook.


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Interesting! How much of a difference did it make, any before temps recorded for the same game? Curious as to whether or not that might void warranty if your stripping the heat sink down (compared to just swapping parts), you never know. Also curious to see if just slapping one on without stripping the copper would help as well.

 

Full Desktop RTX 2080 Ti - 11GB GDDR6 / Cuda Cores: 4352 / Tensor Cores: 544 / TDP: 250W / Bandwidth: 616.0 GB/s
Laptop Quadro RTX 6000 - 24GB GDDR6 / Cuda Cores: 4608 / Tensor Cores: 576 / TDP: 250W / Bandwidth: 672.0 GB/s

Yes, hope we will see NVidia's next gen Full Desktop Ti in laptops. Looks like more companies are looking to use the Titanium Vapor Chamber to cool High-End Laptops.

 

CPU:


GPU:

 

Hard to say, maybe 10C better temps all in all but besides the heatpipemod I also considerably increased the mounting pressure of the heatsink by removing the original screws. Btw I´m using LM on gpu, cpu die and ihs. the black paint of the original heatpipes should be removed for better heat transfer.

 

That's still pretty good, so maybe 5-7 degrees for someone without LM. Did it fit alright under the plastic cover? How thick was it? Maybe I'll try something similar

 

What's your max? With Phobya NG Extreme I am getting a peak of 76 degrees on my GPU that only improved to 75 with LM which is why I no longer run LM on my machine. I even have my vram overclocked to 7500 MHz at all times. No mounting pressure mods done because my temps are already pretty darn good for me.

 

I have a 125MHz GPU oc and 250 MHz oc on vram. I up to now did not experiment with gpu undervolting. My gpu max temp is 78C when playing Control for hours and fans on max. Before the mod gpu temp would go up to 85C.
The plastic cover does not fit exactly, it gets tight but it's OK. And the good thing is it puts pressure on the additional heatpipe pushing it against the original ones. The additional heatpipe I used from another project and don't really remember where I bought it from has a height of 3 mm.

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I'm currently watching a TV Series show in one window, 8 tabs open(one playing youtube at 144p) and Alienware Command Centre open and my CPU 4.69 is 100 degrees at 40% usage? Stock with Thermal performance and High performance power ON

Why am I hitting 100 degrees with no overclock or undervolting?

I'm sitting it on a couple of place soft mats and note the feet are indenting the place mats...is this maybe restricting the inflow of air?

Are you running on cooling pad?

Edit: Cancel watching TV show(internet stream) and CPU temp drops by 40 degrees instantly????????????

 

Did you try undervolting the CPU? Check back on the thread, there have been a few tutorials shared in response to your comments. Not sure it should hit 100c watching TV tbh.

 

I'm concerned about doing anything when normal operation should not be pulling these figures?
Only seems to do it with watching latest release TV show that is via internet saves????

Witcher 3 no issues, youtube no issues

 

I fixed that for you, bro.

Word! Exactly the way I look at it now. "High performance" notebooks have never been a poorer value than they are today. They are far too compromised, run hot, throttle too much, have castrated firmware, inadequate power handling and the morons that build them are too obsessed with control; so, the use of quotes in the preceding sentence is appropriate. They are not high performance, they just suck a little less than the ordinary consumer filth. This is unfortunate. It did not used to be that way and it doesn't have to be that way today. But, it is what it is. As long as they are being manufactured by imbeciles, it's not going to improve. Don't flush your money down the toilet on a compromised gamer-boy piece of junk that costs $2000 or more. $1500~ (or less) is about the most any of these so-called "desktop replacements" are worth based on how screwed up they are.

A super-expensive laptop with an unlocked desktop CPU that sells for as much as the Area 51M and Clevo DTRs should have a BIOS that functions flawlessly, with all of the same CPU and memory configuration options that you would find in the BIOS of a high-end desktop overclocking/enthusiast motherboard like a Z390 Pro Carbon, MEG Z390 Ace, Z390 Aorus Ultra, Z390 Dark, ROG Strix Z390-E, X299 Dark or ASUS Rampage. The fact that they rely on Micro$lop Store UWP trash apps, or other buggy forms of proprietary "control center" software for partial functionality is absolutely a joke. The clowns that build this broken crap just cannot be taken seriously. They don't know what they are doing, and they don't care as long as people keep buying their broken garbage.

 

Perfect thanks, I'll look into finding some that are 2mm then, even if it helps by 5 degrees I'd be satisfied.

 

Well put. These new trends with soldered components, non standart parts, thinner bezzels and subpar cooling make the whole point of "upgradable" laptops quite meek. Here's hoping that that'll change.

 

Well, we have hope. More companies are using LGA 95W on High-End Laptops. Also, NVIDIA managed to create a whole new cooling system to Laptop, that allowed a Quadro RTX 6000 24GB 250W on this form factor. I think we will be able to use 3080 Ti, or Atleast full TDP 3080 in next gen.

Finally Laptops are matching performance to Full Desktops.

 

If a thin and light is getting a Quadro RTX 6000, I don't see why nVidia isn't allowing companies like Clevo & AW to put it in their flagships. I hope this allows them to finally bring a proper full chip to laptops. The 480M wasn't exactly fully enabled but was the closest we got from a full on die from the high end desktop.

 

I fear Quadro RTX 6000 gpu boards will - if at all - be not available for a reasonable price. A mobile 2080 Ti would be great. Maybe in the 51M R2, but I fear there will be some hiatus in development at Alienware after Azor left. I expect rather something from Asus with a similar heat think design than the professional model at a rather high price tag.

 

Now that I have my system sorted out, and the worst if the house construction past I had time to play a bit. A few thoughts,

The laptop is well designed to work in.

The screen is very nice. If you find it "washed out" check brightness....mine was at 100%.

The audio is ok Not awesome, not horrid. Not sure I like the command center Audio app.

Played witcher 3 on ultra for 2 hours today. No throttling. I forget to get system temps, but it was much cooler then my sons m15.

The duel power is a PITA on a lapboard. I know...its not really for your lap.

And really. .. why do we have straight power connects instead of right angles? Really?!?!

 

Checked Cpu Package Power while it run at 100C with that low Cpu utilization? Use Hwinfo64

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Probably a new one near end of life...

Area51m black screen @ power on & external monitor flashing issues

I have a 2.5 mo old Area51m i9 with the NVIDA 2080 graphics card. I got this beastie mostly for work and occasional gaming. I have been having more and more concerning issues :'(

 

Just ran another TV show playback streamed from the web and fans decreased noise and temps stable at 40degrees?

 

So finally, my great ride came to an end. My 2nd generation RTX 2080 GPU died today. And when I say the "GPU", I mean the GPU itself and not any of the power circuitry etc. It is artifacting and rebooting at random. I will be getting a replacement soon. The way it died is very similar to how one of my Strix 1080TIs died back in the day, which leads me to an opinion that the nvidia chip itself has died. All the other components look fine. Although it withstood the torment for quite a long time and I should give it some props for holding up this long!
@Donald@HIDevolution

 

Why are you downgrading the bios in tag?

Anyone else run NOX for android play?
It was working fine until yesterday it went KPUT and BSOD my Area 51m???????

Tried another link and seems the website is causing the spike in CPU temp...is it Windows 10 or the hardware code?

 

Thankfully its not BGA, so you can simply replace it. Hope you get a replacement soon.

 

Not really, because the chip died internally. Not much the outer hardware could do to protect it internally. It was a highly undervolted setup btw.

 

could very well be that only the rendering engine is dying. you had it for quite some time, so it's very good that it did survive this long. There where cases of some RTX 2070 and 80 GPU's dying so it could very well be an chip from that batch. A shame to see it die.

 

Bruh, got an final answer on this?

I doubt it's the GPU Chips.

If people are happy that the graphics cards is only able to stay alive for 5-6 months before it go to hardware Heaven, they can't have high high expectations for the products longivity.

You see... It's a reason Dell had to downgrade 2080 graphics TGP and pointed out it's an Urgent update. Same also for the bios who introduced lower temp threshold to reduce RMA and unnecessary costs.


Max Premium extended warranty have never been as important as now. Coming buyers should go for maxed out warranty before going on higher SKU's if they have a limited budget. The sad part is that many go the opposite way. The litmus test will come before the Summer next year for the buyers who bougt it once it was released. With expeired warranty this will be a costly experience

 

Glad I ordered mine with 4 years premium plus. Hopefully I wont need to actually use it but we'll see

 

Yeah, thats smart. Here is one more dying. Two Three if we count in @S.K machine. This whithin last 2 days.
Any idea what happened? The performance became poor and the icon sizes changed too. [Area 51m]

 

You see Quadro Mobile rake in 2-6x the cash than non-quadro cards, so more cash == greater innovation for product that might perform way less than older quadros due to thermal headroom and firmware limits.

Dell proprietary GPU costs more after warranty period is done. So, you can buy/get a new PC w/o AW logo.

Did the VRAM chip die or the silicon itself? Did you check it while disassembling?

 

I would not own a 51m without more than a year warranty unless i planned on selling it before the year was up. Glad i have the 4 year warranty with accidental coverage.. However i do really like the laptop and plan to keep this one. The extended warranty would help resale value as well. Either way Ill use it till i'm tired of it and know im covered by the long warranty.

 

nope, not surprised

 

Guys, do I have the latest Vbios?

 

The silicon itself. VRAMs are fine. Quite a few RTX 2080 cards have died this way, including founder's edition cards which means this was probably a rushed launch by nVidia.

 

Anyone has any idea on how to resolve this base system device issue. Not that it is creating an issue yet. But would like to get it resolved. The base system device does not appear in device manager. Something to do with Intel it seems. I formatted my laptop yesterday. This is the only issue that is persisting for now.

 

That's totally normally and that's how it is for everyone. It's the Thunderbolt controller and it works just fine.

Yes you do