Anyone find out how upgrades are handled yet? Are they selling GPU upgrades through dell?
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Well, my one month old second unit is now having the same audio output problem than the first one.
The output jack only work on left channel. The input port can work as an output and work normally.Last edited: Sep 10, 2019Rei Fukai likes this. -
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confirmed on NVIDIA specs it uses up to 250W for the GPU (cooled by a titanium vapor chamber).
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With all the replacements made to this unit, just one more thing to go bye-bye, right? ( In this thread you mention how this machine's replacements in one way or another have had bad luck. http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-1456#post-10938793 )
If anyone thinks the machine is bringing you bad luck, with all the items you've mentioned over these past months, it's more like you walked under a ladder inside while holding an opened umbrella, tripped over a black cat that also crossed your path, which then caused you to stumble and break a mirror and spill a shaker of salt.
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Anyone else have this issue? Any suggested fixes?
My two no mic cans and earbuds...just left channel.
When I set the popup to "headphones" instead of "headphones with mic" I lose the right channel even with the mic/headphones. .
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I have the same issue with the audio jacks, ended up buying the 510H headphones so I can plug in via usb. Even then I have to make sure the connection into the headset is pushed in good and snug. But the sound is great. -
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Anyone else have both kinds of headphones to test? I'm thinking this has something to do with the mic headphone combo having a 3 zone plug...vs 2 for non mic headphones.
Follow your PT completely, it gets better but you have to rehab right. Don't over do the recovery. I did and had about a cup of blood drained from the knee with a freakishly large needle. It was ....highly unpleasant! But im back on the bike with full use.
Heck, the Eagles have a starting defensive lineman (Brandon Brooks) who is back from a Achilles tear in less then 7 months!Last edited by a moderator: Sep 11, 2019VoodooChild and S.K like this. -
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Does anyone know what screen the below is? Looking to see if this is LG/AUO/Mei Chi etc.
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It seems that lots of RTX cards are just randomly dying off for whatever reason.Fire Tiger and hmscott like this. -
I think anyone with GPU failures should also note with bios and vbios they're using. Maybe make a summary thread. Maybe it's not random at all. Just throwing it out there.
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My HP omen has the same vrms (ncp303150) but more of them lol, as mentioned before yet they use a 150w vbios. I wonder why, maybe because they know and understand that going any higher may result in instabilityjclausius and Fire Tiger like this. -
Hello everyone.
I've bought an Alienware area51m system( i9 9900k, 32gbram ddr4 2666mhz, SSD, RTX2060)
I use the laptop when I m away from home to render 3d images (this program uses 100% of the cpu to render an image over a period of time of 2-3 hours each frame at high res)
Yesterday I started using it and in the first seconds of rendering I get 98-99 degrees celsius on the CPU. I contacted Dell and they say it s perfectly fine to have temperatures that high as long as it doesn t reach over 100 Celsius. They also said that the wear of the components isn't greater at these high temps and that the i9900k is made to sustain these high core temps.
I do not trust them since it might slowly cook my motherboard and other components. My previous system: acer predator i7 7700hq only peaked as high as 80 degrees celsius, but it is 3 times slower than the new i9
WHAT SHOULD I DO ?
1) undervolt ? I would but I have no balanced scheme for it. Is there anyone that found a good one for i9900k ?
2) return it ?
3) use a cooling pad ? but that will not really do anything great
4) change the thermal paste ? if yes, what s the best one ?
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Clevo RTX 2080 uses 11 single FET phases
AW RTX 2080 uses 6 doubled FET phases
MSI uses 6 single + 2 doubled FET phases
Have you seen specs for Asus 2080 Mobile graphics power delivery layout? Should be 200w card from the beginning (the reason Azor forced his engineers to add 200w vBios he later downgraded to 180 or 190w TGP with latest vBios update). And none of Asus BGA cards have died as far as I know.
And the GPU power delivery is active cooled on all other brands models.
1) undervolt ? I would but I have no balanced scheme for it. Is there anyone that found a good one for i9900k ? Start with -100mv undervolt
2) return it ? Up to you (read the thread). But check also GPU, VRM, PCH and SSD temps.
3) use a cooling pad ? but that will not really do anything great. Won't help much.
4) change the thermal paste ? if yes, what s the best one ? Conductonaut liquid metal or Phobya Nano Grease Extreme. + check thermal pads imprint from the components.Last edited: Sep 11, 2019Ashtrix, DaMafiaGamer, Rei Fukai and 3 others like this. -
Do you guys think Dell is telling the truth about the fact that running i9 9900k processor on Alienware laptop at 90+ degrees C over long periods of time won t damage it (I mean the wear won t be higher ?)
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Read my posts... For Dell support is 100C ok. What they in short say... The Coffee Lake processor supports a higher clock rate than Kaby Lake or older processors. That means these systems noticeably generate more heat and fan speed when compared to any previous generation of systems. Because of this, Dell engineering has designed the systems to tolerate higher temperatures. These are working as designed. The new specifications are:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...m-owners-lounge.826831/page-664#post-10890152
They have designed the systems to tolerate.... Sure. They prefer use Intel's max temp specs as target https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...9900k-processor-16m-cache-up-to-5-00-ghz.html
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Hi guys, I live in Italy and excuse my English. today I am making the second return of the 51m area (i9 9900k + rtx 2080) because as soon as the GPU reaches 78 degrees the performance drops drastically, the technical support says that it does not know the reason for this problem. since it is the second consecutive unit that has this problem, I ask you if here in the forum there is someone who does not find this problem? I want to understand if it's worth trying with a third unit or should I choose another notebook?
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Well you have your answer now. It's the bios versions 1.5.2 and above that cause the GPU to throttle at those temps. I believe prior to 1.7.2 it was throttling at 74 so there's a slight improvement there. If you order another one and it has the same updated bios it will continue to keep happening. Not necessarily anything wrong with the computer, dell is simply trying to avoid frying new GPU's.
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Just one example, the guy goes through it pretty well and he's actually using the area 51m too. There's plenty of other similar videos as well. Might drop your temps a few degrees especially if you've underclocked it. I would repaste as well (if your comfortable with that) and/or make sure it's clamped down properly.
EDIT: Also if you follow that video, use the OC scanner first before you start changing voltages and clock speeds.Fabietto and Fire Tiger like this. -
I tried to undervolt the 9900k with XTU, it worked fine at -100 but the soft never keep the value after a reboot.
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Alienware Area-51m Drivers 11-Sep-19
New nVIDIA Graphics Driver, LAN, WLAN, and Bluetooth Drivers
After downloading the ZIP file, make sure you right click on it, then go to Properties, then tick the box at the bottom right which says unblock. If you don't do this an extract the ZIP while it's blocked, then every file within the ZIP will be extracted with a BLOCKED status which might lead to failed or erroneous installs.Enkeixpress, jclausius, alberty and 4 others like this. -
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If anyone has a standard non mic headphones could you please plug them in and see if you have L and R channel sound? Im thinking it will just be left channel...
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2: Undervolt the CPU. Start with -100mV and move your way down from there until it starts crashing. Once it crashes, bump it up a couple of notches and call it a day. A good stress test for CPU is NFS Payback (the game). Works better for determining CPU stability than a lot of benchmarks out there. 15-20 minutes of game play will crash the machine if CPU is unstable, so you know and can increase the voltage back until it stops crashing.
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So today started up my 51M noticed some numpad keys not working anymore like 0, or . + *
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Is it just me or does this laptop boot up slower than expected? About 15 sec, 6 seconds of which it's at the rainbow effect / bios post stage (hope that makes sense)
My old Asus g751 used to boot in half that.
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I also have fast startup enabled and unnecessary apps at boot are disabled.
I know it's not a huge boot time but I just expected a laptop with such a massive increase in power to boot up at least as fast as a 5 year old laptop lolFire Tiger likes this. -
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