*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R1 Owner's Lounge

The new VP of Dell and Alienware Gaming?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...eaving-alienware.829424/page-10#post-10967721

Btw...
Alienware’s new desktop build with Ryzen contain a cheapo MB and Chipset. High end?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ga-polaris-gpus.799348/page-706#post-10967619

 

And it has been revealed...

 

Does the 9900KS work with bios 1.5.0?

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I was just logging in to ask this exact question!

 

If anyone does end up rolling with the 9900ks on their 51m.
I'd be interested in temperatures you get running different benchmarks at 5Ghz all core.

 

What bios are you on? I'm thinking of getting KS aswell soon. But I'm on 1.5.0

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Someone on Reddit did. He didn't go into super detailed info. You could message him and ask. He does say he updated to the latest bios.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Alienware/comments/dx2dxo/releasing_the_beast_area_51m_i99900ks/

 

From reading that thread and looking at the scores, the KS is throttling in his system.
His CPU TimeSpy score at 5Ghz is 8,799. Should be around 11.5k or more. For instance, mine scores 12.6k at 5Ghz.
And his Cinebench R20 score at was 3919, whereas it should be around 5000-5200 points at 5Ghz. Mine scores 5330 at 5Ghz

There's a reason I asked here and not places like reddit.

 

U're doing it wrong... Windows LTSC + a couple PS scripts, shouldn't take you more than 60mins all up.

pfSense, block it at the router.

 

What needs disabling in LTSC?

I have heard about that. Is there a good tutorial somewhere in what to block? I am going for LTSC and setting Telemetrics to 0, then looking at services to stop. Is this enough? I probably sound paranoid but I just worry about the level of trust in any data I don't choose being sent out of my computer

 

Personal preferences; I disable a bunch of services, couple dozen reg tweaks, and install the store.

utube: pfSense pfBlockerNG, most of the currated Blacklists block most tracking endpoints. pfSense has a high learning curve though.
I think I still prefer using Asus Merlin FW + diversion ( https://diversion.ch/).
You can also go w/ RPi + PiHole, they all do DNS and their default Blacklists address M$ and all the other trackers.

 

This actually fits my need, I want a laptop with hi-end desktop cpu like 9900k with a low-end gpu (no dGPU would be the best) so I can use it with my 2080ti in AGA without wasting money on dGPU

 

Yes, LTSC requires a lot less effort. But, there are still a crap ton of tweaks and dozens of applications to install. Some I have scripts for, some I do not. Since I image rather than doing it from scratch, the fully tweaked and ready to use image restoration takes about 15 minutes. Unless I have no image available, there is no point in doing a clean install manually.

 

His chip, ran like my 4.4. Ghz 8950HK. in my 17 R5.

 

Just goes to show, that even with all the right tools. You still need a craftsman

 

Any pointers to recommended tweaks?

 

Some of the software tools that I use today are different (DWS is obsolete), but they all serve the same functionally equivalent purpose. O&O ShutUp, WUB, WPD, etc. have replaced DWS. Using LTSC allows me to avoid any need for ISO modding with MSMG Toolkit. Worthless trash like Cortana and the UWP app bloatware is already gone. LTSC saves a lot of time wasting on nonsense. LTSC is exactly what the normal everyday consumer production version of Pro should be.

Take your pick among the tweaks listed in the link below. I haven't compiled everything into a neat list for public presentation. Maybe one of these days I will find time for that.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10-tweaks-and-fixes-index-post-1.779394/

Making the UI less disgusting is absolutely a requirement. AeroGlass and StartIsBack are the most important aesthetic solutions for me. Without them, I find it extremely difficult to be happy with the default look and feel of the Windows 10 UI. Same was true for the Windows 8.X abortion.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...enix-has-arisen.781814/page-714#post-10292130

Although I haven't updated it since 2016, not a lot has changed. A few things, for example, fixing idiotic crap like the blurred background on the Windows Logon screen, need to be done that are not in the attached Excel sheet.

 

Hahaha so you’re hauling your Ferrari with a beetle engine with a Formula 1 car. VERY CLEVER!!! —

 

Plz help does 9900ks work with bios 1.5.0? I'm going to be buying a KS really soon

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I'm not sure anyone here has the 9900KS yet, unfortunately, the only way to find out might be to try it yourself. None of the Area 51m's were configured with that CPU, therefore, I'd imagine it'll work without any problem similar to the way other CPU's such as the 8700K have worked.

 

I was looking for perspective into how my lapped die 9900k compared to the special edition chip. Albeit it would not be an apples to apples comparison but still.

 

Where is this special lid to buy? Bartx ihs the only one I found said it was not compatible for 9th gen cause will put to much pressure on cpu.

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It's posted a couple replies down in the thread.

 

Yeah it would definitely still be good to see, I'm just not sure anyone on here has done it and if they have I don't think it was specified what BIOS they were on. However, as someone here had an 8700K which isn't a 'supported' or provided configuration from Dell I assume any of the CPU's that fit this socket would work regardless of the BIOS.

I suppose the guy on Reddit could confirm his BIOS but as has been pointed out the scores didn't look that great.

I know little about all this but isn't the 9900KS a higher TDP than the 9900K? If so does that not almost immediately guarantee the KS would run hotter than the K or am I just not up to speed enough on CPUs and how they work haha?

 

9900KS's 127w TDP is based on 4.0Ghz base clock. Whereas the regular 9900K sits at 3.6Ghz to hit that 95w TDP. But it's a useless metric when you consider these are unlocked chips.

The KS is better binned chip, meaning they should run more efficient and have a much better volt/freq curve compared the the 'regular K sku'. So in theory the KS should run same clocks using less voltage, thus emitting less heat.

 

Nice one brother, thanks. Makes a lot more sense to me now, I just saw TDP and assumed higher meant hotter without properly understanding the ins and outs behind it, thanks again.

 

Just really scared to get the 9900ks to find out it has to be on a later bios then I have to deal with my 2080 having the throttle crap dell placed in at The bioses above 1.5.0

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Area-51m use a unified heatsink. You need compensate the height on GPU side due the thicker IHS.

Less voltage at same clock speed but KS offer slightly lower IPC due security fixes on hardware level.

 

guys, anyone knows if the popping sound coming from speakers when you press lightly on the palm rest can be fixed with a driver? or is it a hardware problem and I should call dell?
I read this is a common problem with this laptop and now I discovered that mine also is affected.

 

I thought the hardware fixes were done to not impact performance vs. bios fixes for CPUs that don’t have those mitigations?

 

Those mitigations was needed. Intel couldn't do otherwise. Performance hit is one thing... But the main task was improved security on hardware level.

 

So at 0.925v 1965mhz core my 2080 pulls about 176-180w and temp is 81c...something dosent feel right

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Did you lock the voltage curve by pressing L and hit apply?

 

Yes I did and it says running at that voltage, right now I'm at 0.931v 1950mhz is current clock max temp so far is 82c... I remember using the 190w bios with no undervolt and not going past 80c and with the 200w vbios I would go past 80c but I'm pulling now like 179w-185w and it still is nearly the same temp.. With 0.931v currently. I mean if this is normal then I'll leave it alone but I'm worried for sure I have nanogrease applied thin layer made sure all of core was covered

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I'm near selling or jst refunding this thing.... Heat on gpu is crazy and idk what's happening at this point I can't tame this thing at all

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And you're 100% sure the power consumption was equal for 200w vBios? 200W vBios doesn't necessarily say you used all available power.

Expect it will be some differences between the different heatsink. All isn't created 100% equal. Some worse than the others.

Be sure you have maxed out warranty.

 

It seems for 200w my laptop maxes out at 85c while barely reaching 86c...dont feel this is normal, is it true that using a 1.0mm pad instead of the stock 1.5mm on the chokes I believe that it will help more contact between gpu and heatsink?

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You have to expect that there are some differences with heatsink. Some is wors than others. It's what it is.

Depends on the contact you already have. And if you already use soft pads, there may not be that much to pick up.

 

Downgraded back to driver 441.08 and power seems more stable now... 441.12 and 441.20 just mess things up for me clock speed wasn't even going past 2k anymore.

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Anyone know if it's possible to lock voltage on CPU on Intel XTU? When i do this, the voltage still fluctuates above/below what I set.

I feel like my 9700k might be a "golden" chip, but I'm unable to really test and see how low I can go with voltage. But I can run 5GHz on any game with -.100 UV and it averages about 70C, never going above 80C.

Typically run stock at -.140 UV and it averages 64C with max temps around 72C.

 

You should be able to use override voltage, however core VID will fluctuate unless you have access to LLC.

I really lost faith in nvidia drivers. There is a bug with the danish locale that makes ultra low latency be on from default, and mislabled. So when you try and turn it off, because the scores suddenly dropped from a cliff, there is no change. It has to be set to ON to be OFF, lol.

I reported this bug to nvidia months ago and they escalated it up, but even now with the new drivers you get that bs.

 

Do you have a 51m?

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No, I'm on a Clevo w/ a 1080. Skipping current generation of gpu's.

 

Ohh yeah I would get a clevo.. Just not a fan of the way they look

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Agreed.

I think this was 4.8Ghz: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/7167581

OC on the 2080 as well.

 

It's what's in the inside that counts

 

9900K and OC 2080
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/41184549

 

Well I have received the bag for the laptop, the Alienware Vindicator Briefcase V2.0 - 17.3 Inch, while my laptop is still in China with the tracking not being updated for the past three days
I have noticed that the bag is about 10cm higher and longer than the maximum allowed for laptop bags on flights... Is anyone carrying this laptop when travelling? What do you use? Please don't say the trolley

 

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/9207072 :3 I used to be number 1 with my config lmao, but someone got a slightly higher gpu score than meh *. * but I keep my 2080 undervolted 0.925mv with 1995mhz core running rock stable now. On drivers 441.08, best ones by far atm for this laptop at least.

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What are your temps like on that driver?