All you need to know about GAMING mouse

These are some problems with DA i found while surfing other forums:

* Delay when pressing the mouse buttons until the action occurs

Some slower CPUs can have a hard time with the button presses of the DeathAdder and thus there can be a small delay from when you press the button to the actual action occurs. The Razer driver has three processes running

Razerhid.exe - This is the actual driver (the one to set to high)
Razerofa.exe - This is the on-the-fly-sensitivity manager
Razertra.exe - This is just the windows tray object

To solve this do the following

1. On the windows desktop: Press ctrl + alt + del
2. Go to the pane "processes"
3. Locate "razerhid.exe"
4. Right click and select "Set priority" and choose "High" or "Realtime" (Note that if you have a slow CPU realtime is NOT advised)

 

so im guessing that the Logitech MX Revolution is not a good mouse for playing games. right cause its laser but ill have a wide mouse area and i don't use pads.
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/mice/devices/130&cl=us,en
so is it good , has anybody tried it?

 

It is not marketed as a Gaming mouse...so it indicates that its sensor is not made to sustain high speeds.

Check out MX518 though.

 

nice write up by fellow singaporean.

 

I live in Singapore...but i am not Singaporean

 

You forgot Steelseries as a company that makes one of the best gaming mice.

 

This needs to mention the mx500 at 1000mhz, the best low sense mouse all around. You can get an open box one of ebay for $11 shipped.

This article references razer too much. Razers were really expensive high marketed poor performing junk. Now with their deathadder they finally have one mouse that barely beats the mx500 which has been available for years. Deathadder is a highly marketed super overpriced, but good quality mouse.

source: the same article you linked too.

Now, someone needs to make an article of how old CRT monitors pwn all lcds in every aspect except foot print. Ugh, lcd motion blur, can't stand it.

 

Finally someone who knows how to rant! suriously true points in there

 

I dont bluff about Companies who encourage lousy technology.

Initially i felt Razer is some weird new kid on the block but after i did research of their technology & company background i came to know they are a serious competition to Logitech.

 

Personally, I love my Razer Lachesis, I had some hard time getting used to the 4,000 DPI, but now I can do very accurate and fast clicks I would not have been able to with a normal grade mouse, I love the speed it grants me, I can 'fly' all over the 1920x1200 screen of my laptop, the design seemed somewhat weird for the first few days I used it, but now I love it. The only thing that annoys me sometimes, it's that the pointer moves a few pixels when I am typing (I do really fast typing @ 90-120 words per minute) or when I am double-clicking, not too annoying either, just a little problem. Overall, it's a very good mouse.

-- Lenya ❤

 

I purchased both the Microsoft Sidewinder and the Logitech G9 (I also own a G5 for my Desktop). I ended up returning the Sidewinder because it didn't fit my hand well ( I have large hands but this thing still didn't feel right). I kept the G9 and it is what I am currently using. Here is a little comparison of what I perceived from my time with both mouses.

Build Quality: Both are fabulous, but I give a slight edge to the Sidewinder. The Sidewinder looks and feels solid. Logitech is very nice but it's a 2 peice design and uses lighter plastics in comparison to the MS mouse. I'm also wondering how long until I wear out this scroll wheel on the G9.

DPI Settings:Logitech G9 is the clear winner. The G9 allows for up to 2-5 different DPI settings as well as having an ultra high DPI of 3200. Sidewinder only allows for 3 settings and it's increments are fixed and less adjustable than the G9's.

Features: Hard to decide here. Sidewinder has interchangable feet, a tether box for your cord (really nice IMO), and 1 button for macro's and a 180* turn feature. Logitech has the hyper scroll wheel, more DPI settings, and an interchangable body. Both are packed full of features but none has a clear winning "feature" in my view

Conclusion: It came down to feel for me. I really would have loved the Sidewinder but my hand and grip just didn't seem to like it. I almost use a half palm, half claw grip (I move my whole hand, and grip with the fingers and front part of my hand). Even after attempting a strict palm grip on the Sidewinder for several days, the huge size and high hump just cramped my hand. The G9 just feels nice and comfortable and I am really liking the versatility of all the DPI settings.

 

How legit do you guys think this beast of a mouse is?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014AL9L4

Sadly, I bought it b/c I really need a cheap optical mouse on the fly until I get my next laptop system and have some more cash. Really though, has anyone else bought this mouse before?

 

My friend had one I sat on it and it broke XD.

 

I noticed BestBuy had a sale on the Razer Deathadder today so I went down to see if I liked it. Unfortunately they were out so I had to grab a rain check, but I did get to play around with their vast selection of display mice. I normally use my mice with a claw style grip, not because I like it but because my hands just don't comfortably fit most mice, but once my palms touched the DeathAdder it was heaven. It's the most comfortable mouse I've ever touched, the gentle right handed slant is great, making it the first mouse I've ever help with my palm. Based on comfort I think the mouse is great, although I can't try it out for gaming until they get it in stock. But for anyone that's concerned about how the mouse feels, especially if you have big hands, I found it just right!

 

actually theres a deal for razer because they are sponsoring a starcraft tournament. The deal is spend over $50, you can get a free gaming pad.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=1&topic_id=72351

 

Mice are strictly about comfort. Just like with anything else - you find what you're comfortable with and you use it. The DeathAdder and the IME3.0 are the two most popular mice on the competitive scene; but neither will magically turn you a better player, I promise.

Just make sure whatever you get is wired and optical.

 

Badfish.... mouse are not about comfort in Gaming.

If u buy a $10 Optical mouse & use it for CS...(assuming u r an experienced player)....u ll notice the mouse will go crazy when u move it ..

and it wont be able to track your crosshair movements.

Reasons:

It lacks the DPI.
It lacks the high-speed tracking.


And soon the buttons & components will get damaged because its NOT made for so many Clicks & Friction.

 

Nice, +1 for you.

I noticed that the G7 in the pic says logicool, I might be buying one o' those

EDIT: Gees they're expensive

 

I think that you again way over-exaggerate the whole mouse issue.

Free Dell optical mice work just fine for gaming.

This is all personal preference. You talk about skipping then neglect to mention that you are talking about pro-gamer low sensitivity players that move their mouse at 2 meters/second.

No.

This is not the norm and casual gamers will be fine playing with any sort of mouse. Gaming mice are just kinda fun and provide a small advantage should you decide to use the additional features.

Normal consumer mice are actually extremely durable. I've used a microsoft intellimouse for many many years for normal and gaming use. That includes 4 years of furious diablo 2 clicking.

A year ago I got a creative fatal1ty "gaming" mouse because it was free after rebate. Wow. What a piece of crap. It stopped working after 3 months and it's a very very common problem. No wonder it was free.

Some gaming mice are just marketing, some do offer nice features. Gaming mice are not a necessity. They're just nice to have and play with.

 

Mine is too.

 

Um yeah.

I have both a G9 and Deathadder plugged in right now side by side and if anything, Deathadder has higher "lift-off" distance.

I don't think it's a big deal anyway.

 

Just picked up a Logitech G5... loving it. I do see what you mean about "lift-off", but still it is a fantastic mouse.

 

Got a question for all of you G5 users- What weights, if any, do you use?

I use all of the 4.5g weights. I like my games to be simi-low sensitivity, so I use 1600dpi at all times, with the heaviest weights, and it gives me a good combination of accuracy, and speed.

 

I've purchased way too many mice recently (Razer copperhead / death adder / lachesis, Logitech G9, MS Sidewinder, Ideazon Reaper Edge, etc...), but the Ikari Steel Series Laser is best I've used to date:

http://www.steelseries.com/int/products/mice/ikari_laser/information

Some of its features:
- Programmable macro buttons with driverless plug-and-play
- 40,000 samples per second (SPS)
- 1 - 3,200 CPI, adjustable at 1-tic increments
- LCD display to help set CPI values on-the-fly
- no-slip rubberized coating
- very comfortable ergo-shape

My other mice had a few of the above features, but none of them combined everything in a single package like the Ikari. Definitely a winner in my book.

 

On my G5 I use 4 4.5g and 4 1.7g weights with it being heavier towards the center.

If the Ikari had a tilt mouse wheel then I might consider it, but I like mice with a ton of buttons like the G5 and G9 that have 9 buttons.

Also having the LCD display on the bottom of the mouse is a waste because it won't be visible when you use the mouse.

 

I like running my mice as light as possible to minimize inertia/drag, so weights are a non-factor for me.

I also own a G9, and I really like it except for the very-flexy grip shells. I'm used to holding solid mice that don't creak while being used. I've also had an MX518, but it's peanut-shape has raised front edges that cause pain in my fingers after a few hours use.

I've never used the side tilt on my G9... seems like a nice feature, but none of the FPS / MMO games I play really need it (GW, UT3, HGL, TF2, C&C3, etc...).

I would have also preferred the LCD visible at the top of the mouse. However, when I'm holding the Ikari mouse, my hand completely covers its top visible surface, so any LCD positioned above will be covered by the user's hand. By bottom-mounting the LCD, the user can change cpi-settings without having to let go of the mouse, but now the user must lift the mouse to see it. However, if Ikari had placed the LCD over the CPI-toggle LED, I think they could have had a more functional LCD location.

EDIT: What really sold me on the Ikari wasn't its fancy lights or bling-factor, but its sheer comfort combined with performance. Having purchased 8+ high end mice during this last year, I had a tough time finding a proper fit until now. 2nd best I've used is the Ideazon Reaper Edge.

 

I'm APPALLED that the Logitech "Marble Mouse" has not been mentioned!

I'd label myself an ex-hardcore/competitive gamer. Doing easily 8-12 hours a day (I had no life, lol). I've used optical mice, laser, and the old bottom-trackball mice. I've also had the honor of trying some of those "special" mice that my friends have (like the Razer Lachesis). I also use HIGH sensitivity (I usually crank every game to the MAX possible). These days I'm a little less-demanding of my hand-movements and use a sensitivity of about 8 on games like counter-strike (that is still a relatively high speed, most people I know won't touch that speed). But, the moment I tried the optical tracking "Marble Mouse" by Logitech, I never looked back. I've been using the same mouse since I tried it years-and-years ago.

You use a grip similar to the "claw" that was mentioned in the first post. The difference being, your "claw" (index/mid finger) are used to DIRECTLY move the trackball. Your thumb operates the left-button of the mouse, while your ring/pinky finger opeate the right-button on the mouse. The BASE of your mouse will NEVER move (unless you get frustrated and throw your mouse against a wall, I don't recommend this, however). Thus allowing for stabilization in arm/wrist and only. I find this to be an EXCEPTIONAL gaming mouse and I've brought it with me to LAN parties and have played with it in clan tournaments and ladders. It is also fine for non-fps games (such as an RTS like Starcraft). The only problem I've ever with this mouse was hand fatigue. Given it's stability most of your fingers and all of your palm/wrist/arm will NEVER move for HOURS OF GAMEPLAY, causing some stiffness. It's not good to stare at your screen for hour-after-hour anyway, so you will get a chance to take a break. Long-Term, I've used the mouse for years without problems. It's a simple price ($20 or so) and the newer models are plugged into the USB port (it comes with a small device that connects to the USB connector, allowing you to use the mouse plug-in for desktops, however, which I recommend if using a desktop). However, it doesn't come with "Cruise Control", "Track Wheel", or a "cordless" option, which is unfortunate. Not that any gamer with his salts would do cordless or use these other features in-game anyhow. The ONE in-game loss is the lack of gaming buttons. It does come with TWO (see picture) gaming buttons that are well-placed and RARELY mis-clicked. I personally never use the additional mouse buttons (once upon a time I programmed the additional left-click button to be a toggle-weapon and the additional right-click button to be a toggle-flashlight, but I was always more comfortable just using the keyboard for that). This is also a great option for limited deskspace and doesn't require a mousepad. Lastly, it is VERY easy to clean. Just "pop" out the ball and use a clean-cloth on the inside for 5 seconds and "pop" back in the ball.
Here is a photo of the Marble Mouse.

I will warn, that I've heard some ppl complain of hand-pain after using this mouse for long periods of time (not me, though, even with the 12-hours gameplay). Also, it can take a while to REALLY get used to using an above-trackball. It's a unique experience. Don't worry however, much like "riding a bike", you won't forget how to use "regular" mice any.

Edit: This link will bring you to the purchase/info webpage on Logitech for this mouse, if interested.

Happy Gaming!

 

I just got another G5 mouse(blue lighting) and i will compare it to my old G5 mouse(2142 battlefield). The new G5 has the extra side button but the sound is much less so you don't hear the clicking sound at all. The scroll has being improved so there is less sound and when pressing in the scroll doesn't move to the side accidentally anymore. The grip of the new G5 is much better than the old G5 where it was a bit slippery.

 

I own a new G5 (with the blue graphite look), and an old G5 (orange and black look), and I do prefer the new one. The 2nd thumb button is useful for gaming, and my hand doesn't get all slippery on it.

 

Just a picture of some current high end mice next to each other. The Ikari Steel Series Laser is the most comfortable high performance mouse of the bunch.

 

Is the top one the Steel series?

 

That one is the Ideazon Reaper Edge (has the carbon fiber mesh surface). It's actually a very nice mouse... great ergonomics and no soft coating that can peel away. However, it doesn't have macro support like the other 3 mice pictured.

The Steel Series is the gray mouse on the lower right. More details here:
http://www.steelseries.com/news/pre...ri_optical_and_laser_professional_gaming_mice

 

Wow, that's pretty nice. A little to "Pro" for me, but very nice indeed!

 

Wait is that SteelSeries the optical version it looks like the optical but you keep on saying it's the laser version. Makes me confused.

Edit- NVM I found out Optical and Laser have the same shape.

 

The Steel Series Optical also has a black scroll wheel, while the laser version has a white wheel. This is the easiest way to tell the two models apart.

 

Very nice sum up of the gaming "mice". Makes me want to get into pc gaming a bit more.

 

Ya ...they are like the supercars which u usually dont see on the roads

Btw i added some more pics & information. Check it out.

 

Speaking of super-mice, check out the Saitek Cyborg on the right side, under the Lachesis...



11 programmable buttons and a motorized extension grip. However, it's a very odd fit, even for me...

 

most of these are too hardcore for me...i chose a little more portability and opted for the vx revolution....never let me down with f.e.a.r. or nwn2....i also use an mx revolution on my desktop, if it took a standard battery like the vx, i'd use it for my notebook as well....

 

Quick question, I just happened to notice while going through the controls for COD that I play on almost the minimum mouse sensitivity. Is that a bad thing? Should I be looking to try and increase the sensitivity gradually or is that just the way I am and I should stick to it?

 

Its just a matter of preference...if u noticed u like low sensi then its good for u..

but you ll need a big mousemat for it ..because moving mouse on the table sooo much can cause Wear & Tear of its bottom.

I also play low sensitivity

 

Thanks for the info.

 

I got my VX revolution, and damn is it awesome! so responsive, scroll wheel is great and I just love having no wires!

Should I make a review? or just tell you to buy it! Will try on gaming next week when my laptop arrives!

 

I just bought a G5 and I love it. The easy adjustment is great. But what I really like is that the spot that is contoured for the thumb helps my thumb perfectly but in a good position to hit the side buttons. I find the effect of the adjustable weights to be negligible so far, but maybe I'll see more of a diffierence as I go along.

 

Having a hard time deciding on a new mouse. I'm currently using a ghetto Microsoft optical blue that came w/ my old Notebook. I play WoW quite a bit but also play some TF2 and COD4. I've never really used gaming mice too much, except we use MX518s at work and I don't really care for them. My top choices are these:

Deathadder
G5 (Like the looks of G7 better but batteries die fast?)
Lachesis
Copperhead


I consider myself more of a palm grip than claw, but somewhat in between (I just don't like those tiny laptop mouses). As far as sensitivity goes, I usually play on about a 7-8 out of 10. Which of these do you think woul work well for me? I am planning on checking some of them out at Best Buy but haven't gotten the chance yet.

 

I will just throw in my opinion on the Deathadder as I have owned one myself, and I also owned the mx510 which shares the same shape as the G5 and the diamondback which is also the same shape as the copperhead.

I do find the Deathadder the most comfortable. Its large side buttons are also very nice. As for accuracy, one you get to the point of these expensive mouses, it doesn't really matter anyway... The deathadder's button stiffness I would rate as in between the G5 and the Copperhead, with the G5 being the stiffer one. The deathadder is also the lightest one, so it really depends on your tastes. It is best to try the all for yourself at your local bestbuy or something.

Hope this helps,
Johnny T

 

How does the Deathadder shape compare to Copperhead and Lachesis?

 

The Deathadder is ergo-comfort-designed for right handers. The Copperhead and Lachesis are both symmetric low-profile mice with very narrow support bases for minimized surface friction, designed more for performance and less for comfort. While this makes them both very agile compared to the Deathadder, I find the Copperhead easier to hold than the Lachesis, especially when using the side buttons.

 

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Thank you,
Johnny T - NBR Moderation Team

 

And fortunately it still shows on on google when you type 'all about Gaming mouse'

Btw i ll be updating it soon as Steelseries is releasing great Gaming mice.