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    Introducing the EUROCOM 780W Notebook AC Adapter (Clevo & MSI Ready)

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by Mr. Fox, Feb 4, 2017.

  1. hexum23

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    That's a bummer. It's still a little cheaper on eBay. $420 when converted to USD plus shipping.
     
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    So any idea why the PSU idles @ 60W / 3-4Amps?
    I checked both my surge protector and wall socket, both are well under 1 Amp when nothing is plugged in. (on a solo line, i use for the AC, so nothing else i on that same breaker/line/socket)
     
  5. Johnksss

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    Short answer....It's measuring the wrong two points.
     
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    clayton006 Notebook Evangelist

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    Question for people here. I'm traveling down to Charlotte, NC tomorrow and I have a 750w power inverter (peak 1500w) just recently installed. All of my devices are working well with it. When I plug in my Eurocom 780w power supply I hear this humming noise coming from it but it is working okay.

    I wonder if due to the fact that my power inverter may be a modifine sine vs. normal/pure sine could be causing this? If so, is there any concern about damage to the power supply or laptop as long as both the inverter and power supply are both well ventilated? I plan on using it probably 2-4 hours out of the 7.5 hour journey. Any responses would be appreciated.
     
  7. clayton006

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    Mine does the same thing, I thought that was a bit strange.
     
  8. Johnksss

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    Firmware may need to be updated more than likely. The update gets it closer, but still not 100 percent.
     
  9. Mobius 1

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    how to update the firmware if we already have one?
     
  10. Johnksss

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    From what I understand...You would need a programmer or you would have to send it in.
     
  11. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    wonder if they will flash for you free?
     
  12. Johnksss

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    I have no clue about that, Sorry.
     
  13. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    :(
     
  14. clayton006

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    I chatted with support today about hooking my PSU up to an inverter as well as the firmware update. As long as I paid shipping they would flash it for free. It looks like they aren't selling the hardware / method to flash them ourselves.


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  15. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    who did you chat with, eurocom or hid?
     
  16. clayton006

    clayton006 Notebook Evangelist

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    Eurocom support. That's who I bought my PSU from.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  17. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    are you the Claytom I think you are who was my old friend? My previous nick was Matrix Leader if it rings any bells
     
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    Hd172 Notebook Consultant

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    What did eurocom say about using a modified sine wave inverter.? I've been using a pure sine wave 1000w inverter for a while with no issues.
     
  19. clayton006

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    They told me to try it and report back. I still need to report back, but it worked fine. I could hear a hum / buzz / transformer sound from it, and it was a little warm (no vents blocked) but it worked okay. I used it for 3 hours and mostly consumed around 150w but I did fire up some brief games that consumed up to 400w without issue.
     
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    Hmmm that doesn't ring any bells per se. I'm happy to be your friend now. What community was that a part of?
     
  21. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    @Phoenix was a former Clevo owner :cool: Now BGA and Steelseries keyboard :eek:
     
  22. thegh0sts

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    so this PSU means I don't need to buy the joiner and a second PSU?
     
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  23. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Exactly :bigyes:
     
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  24. thegh0sts

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    sweet! if only i had the money to buy one :p

    EDIT: is this a eurocom only thing?
     
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  25. Q937

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    You don't exactly need two PSUs with your setup anyways.
     
  26. Mobius 1

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    everyone can buy it regardless if they have a clevo or msi machine purchased from elsewhere
     
  27. Papusan

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    And HID
    Exactly.
     
  28. Djommar

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    Does anyone know if this works with the p650hs?

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
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  29. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    I think it's currently only 4 pin though I recall the announcement saying they'll have more cables later.
     
  30. Djommar

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    Awesome thank you!

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  31. Q937

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    What on earth do you need 780W for on the P650? That's beyond overkill.
     
  32. Djommar

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    I'm already hitting power limit on the 230watt supply with the overclock. I was just asking

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  33. MahmoudDewy

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    Are you sure there is no 330W with matching plug and voltage?
     
  34. Djommar

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    I hope there is! I haven't seen any so far but if anyone could help me out that would be awesome!

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  35. MahmoudDewy

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    I believe you can mod the plug of one with different plug like from DELL, MSI or a different CLEVO model. That's assuming there is non for yours. But one thing you need to be sure of is whether your laptop circuitry would actually pull that much power or there is a limitation on the motherboard.
     
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    I believe all the 330s that come with Clevos (usu. Delta?) are 4 pin but there may be a universal that will fit

    Not sure how much I'd trust a 330W adapter with a removable tip but there it is.
     
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  37. Q937

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    If there is no sense pin a la Dell PSUs, your laptop has no way of knowing what's connected. So if you're not already tripping the PSU safety, a higher wattage PSU does nothing for you.
     
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    I would personally never trust a universal Adapter, let alone one that will operate under such high wattage :D
     
  39. Support.2@XOTIC PC

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    There's that too, but I'm starting to suspect that like screens they're all made by the same 3-4 companies even if they're generically branded.
     
  40. MahmoudDewy

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    You would be amazed by how many underground manufacturing facilities China has, which ofc doesn't conform or just claim to conform to standards.
     
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    Just a heads up for anyone who uses their laptop for work and/or music listening and considering this adapter. While your laptop can be pretty much silent below 50W usage just passively cooling through heatsink, this adapter is not exactly quiet. You can hear the switching noises from the power circuitry (not the fans) easily from 20 ft away in a quiet environment. The PSU fans will kick in fairly loudly for 3 seconds every 5 minutes or so as well.

    I'm pretty much choosing between carrying 1 330W 1 780W or 2 330W + combiner box. (beyond 330W my laptop fans will be loud enough to drown out the PSU anyway lol) I think what I'll end up doing is just modding the power combiner box with a longer cable and modding the 330W 4pin cables to be shorter so I have 2 short to combiner with 1 long instead of 2 long to combiner with 1 short, which will work fine even with single 330W since combiner is happy to just pass-through a single adapter.

    Ambient noise: 15.1 dB
    Noise @ 1m from powered on 780W adapter (34W load): 25.4 dB
    Unfortunately I don't have a tool that measures A-weighted accurate dB but you'll find that a fan at 25.4 dB is actually a lot quieter to a human ear than the high pitched fast clicking produced by this unit. In comparison my CM U3 Plus laptop cooler with 2 Noctua NF-A12 iPPC 2000 PWM running at 1100 RPM are about the same level of noise at 1m but inaudible beyond 2m. This PSU is still audible at 8m.

    Fun fact: Most games seem to only bring me up to around 290W with SLI GTX 1080 and i7-7700k (stock clocks and voltages) so maybe I can get away with just a single 330W adapter... :)

    Now the big question of whether or not I send back and pay restocking fees (what are their restocking fees for this adapter?) or sell it to someone on the forum? :S
     
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  42. Ramzay

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    @jcadduono

    OMG you're actually in Thunder Bay??
     
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    That actually boggles the mind a little. But I believe you.
     
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    My experience is similar. I'm on p870dm3 with 6700k and gtx 1080 sli. When I'm not gaming, just surfing the web, unfortunately the power supply fan is louder than the laptop fans, and it's annoying in that the fan continually oscillates in speed every few seconds. It isn't too bad though, and I definitely don't notice it when gaming or with headphones on, but still a minor annoyance when just using the laptop for basic things. Another minor issue is that the LCD screen will occasionally flash on for a split second when I have the power supply switch shut off but the unit is still plugged in. Not sure why it's doing that. Otherwise, I'm pretty happy with it, and it's better than lugging around the two 330w power supplies. Unfortunately I couldn't get away with using a single 330w unit. I regularly got over 400w when playing Overwatch and some other games. Happens more especially when hooked up to my external monitor running at 165hz refresh rate.
     
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    yeah dude is that the "I thought I was the only person in Thunder Bay that exists on the internet" kind of surprise, 'cause I was certain I'm the only one.
    Posted from my "best available" Tbaytel VDSL2 0.6 mbps upload of disappointment.

    BTW if you are in Thunder Bay and happened to have a delid tool I will be quite unhappy. I just paid $91 CAD for the Rockit 88 after nearly destroying my 7700k in a vise. <_<
     
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  46. Ramzay

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    No I'm in Toronto - it's just odd/weird/cool to see somebody post here who's actually in TBay.
     
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    I'm interested in buying one of these adapters..

    Before I do though, information related to the adapter's fiability and safety from current/previous owners would be appreciated.

    I'm no stranger to toasted motherboards and ****ty power supplies.... The difference now would be that a) i need this computer... b) it's worth about 4 times more than the one that toasted "itself" years ago. ... so my question is ... with this respect ... is this power supply an investment ... or a risk?

    I plan on using the laptop for CUDA, as well as conventional software development, while connected to a coprocessor. Essentially... I need all the power i can get. ... and i need to make sure i can control it. ... and because nothing's ever easy... i need it portable as well.
    My current laptop has been known to run at 99% memory and CPU for extended periods (no GPU). ... a hardware comparisson would equivalate it at 37% performance of a P870TM1-G.

    There's also no mention of certification as far as i've come across... which is somewhat a cause for concern.

    if you know anything about this, own(ed) one, please le tme know what your experience/oppinion is.

    Thank you.
     
  48. NeonSun

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    If only they'd miniaturise some of their components into the nice SFX form factor. This is quite a bit bigger than SFX, and I'm sure they can shave off some 20-30% of volume and weight
     
  49. hmscott

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    Nah, that's 780w watts man, checkout normal PC PSU's of 800w range, they are much fatter, it's a great implementation.

    With power delivery there are some physical limit's involved. I've seen really expensive custom stuff that's much heavier and bulkier than that, I was/am impressed with their implementation. :)
     
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    How hot does it get?
    Does it need active cooling? My p870km1's one 230w adapter is breaking apart literally
     
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