1810tray

I recently purchased the 1410-2920 model, and heard about this 1810tray application. I used the 1810tray.41 model with no problems, but I'm curious to know if the new 1810tray.42 version works well on it. How does the underclocking work exactly, specifically how do I know which voltage would work best with my computer?

Thanks.

 

switch to "balanced" sheme wait a few seconds open 1810tray options you get a "*" behind all found voltages. select the lowest with "*"

 

There was only one option with the "*" next to it, I selected that and we'll how things go. Thanks for the info about that.

 

1810tray doesn't switch ip of lan....
I've 6 profiles, 3 dhcp, and 3 static ip. When I plug the lan in the dhcp enviroment, if I switch on static ip profile it doesn't change, and stays stuck on the dhcp. It should swtich the ip to the static one, even if the gateway is different. Why?

 

i checked this and found out that 1810tray only switch the IP if gateway is filled even if its the same.
and the netsh command only works if there is no conflict because of IP. maybe the IP is in use by the wifi adapter ???

 

update .43 uploaded:

fixed the x64 bug

 

I wasn't talking of wifi, but wired LAN...

different gateway and different subnet 192.168.0.x and 192.168.xx.xx (the one of static ip)

 

+1
Given they are of similar architecture it should be feasible no? But I tried it and it doesn't work ;_) FOr sure many of the 3810 owners would be ready to cash in to "port" this piece of software!!

 

i released the source of the fancontrollerplugin. i cant help you because i dont own a 3810 for myself. maybe there is a someone with a 3810 out there how can get the plugin workin with the 3810.
maybe you start a new thread for that....

 

That makes sense. Just a pity as it seems really like excellent work!
But I am not a developet so its basically like chinese to me ;-)
So either we find enough 3810 owners to get you one of the 3810s to adjust the program or someone having one is able to do that.
Anyone a developer out there???

In this post there are 9 members already wanting their Acer quiet already.
The fan is literally driving me crazy , so count me in for 10% of your A3810.
In any case, chapeau for your work!!
Cheers Johannes

 

Hi! @ll!


nice tool! but i have a 4810 too! maybe someone can find out the fan control codes! that we can enter in this tool


or someone can do a tool for de 3810 4810 series ..


mfg LJ

 

my 1810t can only changes to 0,900 v,

i ve read that 0,8750 is normal, but i doesnt displayed by cpu-z or RMclock

 

why does the tray icon not show the status of the ac plug any more?
only "Unknown (65%)" no "charging" etc.

 

Same behavior here with 1810tray.43 on Win7 Pro x64.

 

hi, is it possible to get support for adjusting the fanspeed with a aspire 3811tzg ?

 

jepp .... same here


is fixed in next vers. and also a function for middlemousebutton on twofingertap is included.

 

version 44 is uploaded....


it fix this bug and add the option to do a middlemouseclick on 2fingertap and rightclick on 3fingertap (works only on x86...)

 

delete, delete, I eat meat!

 

Hi,
Sorry for my poor english. I have a 1410 with SU2300 and Win7 64 bits. I have noticed that temperature readings are statics. By searching around the thread, I read some people said to uncheck "Read CPU diode" option. But I can't found where this one is hidden. I assume it as vanished because of I'm using the last version 44. How I can just fix my problem (static reading) ? Thanks a lot for your great job !

Marc

 

Ok, I fixe my problem by upgrading bios to 3303, and all work now without unchecked something.

 

I just downloaded version .44 but in the options it still says version .43?

I've tried removing the folder Inteks in regedit completely before running the new version but it still shows that it's version .43.. Is either I'm doing something wrong or maybe you forgot to change the picture in options.

 

Same .43 shown here.

 

+1 here!!!!

 

updated .....


coolest new feature -> apply settings without saving as a profile.

 

Hi @all!

I have an aspire 3810tz , and also the problem with the noisy fan. dumb question: but is there any tutorial or something else to get the hardware code for the fan and are the codes usable by the program 1810tray.
And is 0.93V and about 45 degree for the CPU ok, or to high?
Im really thinking about sending it back because its to loud. But is there any good alternative?
My brother has a 1810t and the program 1810tray works wonderful, and its very comfortable!

Thank you
pasionator

 

I just played around yesterday with my 3810TZG using RW Everything to find out what might control the fan and/or be the temp sensors in the 3810.
(see attached screenshot when the fan was completely off.

After some hours of playing around my results are that
*the temp sensors seem to be
x46 =>HDD
x48 =>Temp1
4A, 4C seem to be CPU ones, but there is no clear connection to the temp values e.g. as showed in speedFan
so that already might be a cause for a simple solution like 1810 not to work.

*I did not find a value which easily controlled the rpm or fan steps trying out all values reported from other Acer Notebooks and manually basically setting every bit to 00


the good news, though, is that I found two settings that allowed to control the fan:

1) x00 is "00" is in battery mode and changes to "01" if you plug in the AC adapter. If I manually changed it to "00" in this case, the 3810 changes to battery mode while still connected, and the fan stops completely.

2) xEC is always on "A0". However, if I set it to "00" the fan spins much less. Moreover, if I do this, the speed is reduced depending on the load, that is, while x00 always immediately goes into Energy Savings Mode, if I change xEC so some other value than A0, the fan gets in a intermediate step if temp is already rather high (around 45 or so).


Bottom line, it is for sure no obvious to adapt a solution used for other Acer notebooks to work on the 3810 (and I reckon also the 4810).
So maybe a solution might be to just make it think that it is in battery mode ALWAYS??
I could not check if everything else works fine in this case since if I set x00 manually to 00, its gets always overwritten.

I am not a programmer, but after doing some reading, I guess that what these programs do is basically forcing to wirte a specific value in one of the dword values EC table no?
So theoretically might it be possible to just have a small program, e.g., to force x00 to be set to 00?? At least, this would allow to check what happens in this case and if everything runs fine.


Cheers
joemmi

 

maybe someone (3810/4810 owner) try to mod the sourcecode of the fanspeedplugin from 1810tray....

its insnt that complicated!!

if you dont have c# for now. the free express edition should work.

in the source of the plugin are only 1 really important function ->

Code:

public bool SetSpeed(FanSpdIdx fanspeed){
          ........
        }

this is called from 1810tray when switching from low to medium to high and so on.

at this point you can do what ever you want.
i.e. call the WriteEC funtion to write a value to a port from AcerEC

or.
use the ready2use instance of openLibSys "ols" to write ....... any value where ever you want

finally build a new dll and replace the one in the 1810tray folder

have fun
inteks



ps:

i.e. something like this

Code:

public bool SetSpeed(FanSpdIdx fanspeed){
     if(fanspeed < FanSpdIdx.Medium ){
           WriteEC(0x00, 0x00);  
     }else{
           WriteEC(0x01, 0x00);  
     }
}

 

Great utility, thanks. I have a problem here. As much as I hate fan noise, I hate WD HDD clicking noise as well. Per HDPARM(comes with 1810Tray), APM level on my AS1410 is set to 96, AAM is 254. As soon as I set APM to 254 using hdparm, the stupid clicking(header load/unload) is gone. Saving power is a good thing, but Windows 7 keeps writing logs/keepalive etc, there is no chance for HDD to unload anyway

I have done following to no avail
(1) Remove most directories from indexing
(2) Disable cache flushing
=> Even though there is 0 reads, and all writes are a few bytes per sceond, disk LED still blinks once a second, disk makes noise as well(as cache is enabled, flush is disabled, i expect it can hold write for quite a while -- But I am guessing windows 7 still flush anyway because it consider those writes are important) - Someone knows how to change Windows 7 system data flush policy(rather than the one from disk property)

Could you please add APM/AAM option(Let user to specify APM/AAM value, something like hdparm -B APM_value -M AAM_value /dev/hda) for starting 1810Tray? -- Because I don't know how to make the change sticky through HDPARM(or BIOS will overwrite it anyway)

Many thanks!

 

You need to update the BIOS for the temp to update on my UK 1810TZ.

 

Hi inteks,

thanks four your suggestion.
Hmm, I am not a programmer at all (ok I stopped after QBasic, but that probably doesn't count...).
So I don't quite get the whole structzure of the programme, but from my observations of the EC table of the 3810, reading the fanspeed and temerapures is not obvious. SO probably as a first try, I would just try to simply overwrite offset 0x00 with "00" in order to always activate the power saving mode.
While I am not sure it that would work using 1810tray, after what you suggested I would change in the .cs file

Code:

public bool SetSpeed(FanSpdIdx fanspeed){
            int AcIndex = 0;
            if (SystemInformation.PowerStatus.PowerLineStatus == PowerLineStatus.Online) AcIndex = 1;

            var speed = FanSpdHex(AcIndex, fanspeed);

            return SetFanSpeed(speed);
        }

into

Code:

public bool SetSpeed(FanSpdIdx fanspeed){
          WriteEC(0x00, 0x00);   
}

without any condition. (Sorry if that is completely nonsense, I really don't have any idea of this kind of programming.
Ant then I guess I have to compile this C# programme somehow right??
(hehe, I know it sounds stupid, sorry).


Maybe give it a try this weekend if I finally understand what all this .cs .csproj and .sln are about.)

Cheers joemmi

 

Does this program work on the new 1825PTZ ?

 

For hdparm, you could just write a .cmd or .bat script with the relevant hdparm command, and put it in your startup group (for Windows) or /etc/rc.local (for Ubuntu and most Linuxes, run at boot time - see the howto at: help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto

 

Try Visual Studio Express to compile C# - see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Visual_Studio_Express (can't post URLs yet, sorry).

I'd be very interested in something that supports the 4810TZ. I guess I'll get Ubuntu going on it, as the 'lm-sensors' package might just support the required fan speed / temperature sensors already. Generally lm-sensors is very configurable without touching source code. See help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto - Ubuntu Karmic (9.10) is the most recent stable version. You can just burn a live CD to run without touching Windows at all, or use Wubi to install in a file under Windows, and maybe use EasyBCD if you want to multiboot from Windows 7 or Vista.

 

Hello,

what is the meaning of ""Only works if TME modded !!!" under Settings>Enable Overclocking ?

How can I set Undervolting in Power Saving Mode ? Set FSB to 200 and undervolting to 0,875 V ?
If I do so, CPU-Z shows 0,9 V as usual.

Thank you very much und greetings

 

They say 1810tray's fan control won't work on other notebooks but now I'm trying .45 on an i7 Aspire 8942G - works! What the hell...

fanspeedport 0x55 - is the right one

reset fan speed on exit - works

TrayIcon's display compared to CoreTemp (setting TjMax to 100) - correct temps

0x1F fanspeed stop -> the miracle!

It doesn't stop but spin down the fan smoothly to maybe *slow*? and remaining there - wow! That was everything 8942g users have been dreaming of since weeks! Temp not changing at all on *slow* while peacefully writing posts like this far away of gasping noise. Thanks for the wonder inteks!

I only have to exit 1810tray (or set to native) if anything is causing a bit more CPU usage cause every fan speed else then stop does stop the fan. Ok, a temp of ~56°C causes the system to overrule the stopped fan somehow and it starts spinning rapidly with interruptions..


Would it be naive to hope finding out the right fan speed's 0xFF would change the situation? How did you get them for the 1810T?

DC ist not so important on the 8942g..

 

inteks,

Thanks for great software. One thing I am missing though. Do you know if it's possible to disable/enable the front panel LEDs? They are quite bugging especially in the evening when the WLAN led blinks like hell This would be great addition to your program.

 

Yes it does.

 

Thanks for the tip. The reason I am asking for that is to save a task. Anyway, I created a seperate starup task just for hdparm (Same as 1810tray). .cmd or .bat in startup won't work well becuase it asks for confirmation.
I downloaded smartctl to check WD load cycle, those don't care much clicking noise should care about this: header load cycle is about 4 per minute. At this rate, your drive will crash within 1 year (maximum 600K load cycles, 10 hours a day) - This has been a problem for a decade now, the WD firmware engineers really need to refresh their mind. Their test enviornment is still DOS or non-journal system, they need to test in real OS like Linux or Windows

After scheduling "hdparm -B 254 hda" at startup, no question asked, no clicking noise, no load cycle increase (at the cost of battery life, I suspect it matters much, if any. Constant header load/unload takes energy too)

By the way, anyone else noticed that this laptop makes low high-pitch buzzing when power management changes state? This has been a problem for all laptop vendors since 20 years ago, particular for Dell laptops. I am really disappointed that industry has not solved this problem for so long. If you are interested, Dell has a detailed note on this - Bascially, Dell says this is normal, root cause is Cap charging/discharging.(Yes, most customer won't even notice it if they don't pay attention to it)

 

Does anyone try to modificate the 1810tray tool for the acer 3810? Or, there are some progress in finding out the codes for the 3810 fan speed? I am not really a programmer but I can do some modifications when get some input:

1) Where I can download an "embedded controller" edit or control tool
2) Where I can get the 1810tray source code

Thanks for your help

 

Hi, c-k,

I have exactly the same goal (see couple of posts above for my results regarding the 3810's EC). It seems the structure of the 3810's EC is a bit different, but there might be workarounds. I am a programmer neither sorry but will try a bit wit the following tools you also might want to check out (it is what you asked for):

1) The program to read and write the EC is RW Everything ( http://jacky5488.myweb.hinet.net/)
2) the source code is attached to the first post in this thread

Good luck!

 

@joemmi
Thanks for that!

It is possible to overwrite the values with RW Everything periodically, to check out whats happend? I thing we need to know the correct hardware adress for the fan spped controll before start programming.

@all
Anyone tried if undervolting works with the 1810tray tool

By

 

180tray starts scheduled at login but I've got problems when trying to open 1810tray from the systray icon.

When the window should appear, a .net framework error occurs, see below.
Sys: Win7 Ultimate x64, 1810tray version 45

My last version was 41, this error occured since updating to 45.

 

is a "1810tray.jpg" in the application folder ?

 

Great app
I'm using XP and I have the same error when I acces the option menu as Votex!
And btw, better do an installer of the program to ease the installation.

 

1810.jpg, yep.

renamed it to 1810tray.jpg, working flawlessly now

thanks inteks!

 

Hi,
is my understanding correct that 1810Tray does not suit W7 x64 yet?
Thanks!

 

No, it works in w7 x64 too.

 

Great!
I'll try to set up an w7 x86/x64 dual boot then.

 

Done!
1810Tray works on x64. very thankful indeed.
less compatibility problems on x64 than expected, with other software I mean;
a positive impression.

 

is there any guide/tips how to find port/values using RW Everything (or other dump progie) for different notebook? I have Timeline 8371 and fan is running all the time, even in idle when cpu shows around 35 degrees. Which is quite annoying