Acer Aspire 1410 and 1810 Timeline 11.6" Thread

is there a guide for adding internal bluetooth to 1810?
is it the same as 3810?

 

Ok this is pretty annoying now.

Sold out the first batch on pre-order and now nobody knows (neither Amazon nor JR) when the next one will arrive.

I really need a new Notebook before Christmas!!!

 

None of the current 1410 or 1810 models are 3G-ready. There is no soldered-on internal connector as required to plug in a module. An external USB module is the only option.

There is an Acer 1810 model # with 3G listed, but not yet available, at a German retailer. So we know for sure they are coming. (posted earlier here or at the 1810 single core topic)

“Acer uses Huawei modules. Huawei started working with MS in 2008 to ensure its modules get supported by Windows 7, so one doesn't even need 3rd party software to run the 3g module. With Windows 7 they are supported natively just like WiFi!"

 

Serious competition for the AS1410 with SU2300, if the price is right.

From NetBookChoice... the ~Lenovo Ideapad U150 unboxing, with video. Oct 25th

"The 11.6-inch ~Lenovo Ideapad U150 ultra-thin... with superior build quality over the similarly-specced Acer Aspire AS1410. It comes with a 6-cell (4680mAh) battery that does bulk out of the bottom more than the AS1410. Accessibility is easy as the U150’s bottom panel reveals access to the hard drive, two RAM slots as well as a free PCI-E slot.
The Ideapad U150 sports an 11.6-inch (1366 x 768) display and is powered by a 1.2GHz SU2300 processor. It comes with 2GB RAM ( 8GB max) and a 250GB HDD.
Other features include Wi-Fi (b/g/n), Bluetooth 2.1, HDMI, two USB ports, card reader, 1.3MP webcam, and an unusual combo USB/eSATA port."

(Probably DDR3 memory)

An Acer~1410 and the U150 are shown side-by-side near the end of the video.
The 1410 display has a constant flicker. Weird!

 

Looks like the Acer keyboard is bigger - Lenovo is giving up more space on the left and right side?!

 

Specs look similar though the U150 has internal Bluetooth which the equivalent 1410 does not.

I think the keyboards are the same size. It's just that the 1410 case edges are beveled.

Netbooked says the Japan pricing for the U150 is about $130 more than the 1410. If that's the same in the US and abroad, the 1410 still looks like the better deal.

You can see Peter Cartwright (Netbooked)'s notes here:
http://netbooked.net/blog/11.6-lenovo-ideapad-u150-notebook-unboxing/

 

It's funny you mention that because Acer have always had this flickering problem since they dished out their netbooks (I'm unaware of Acer's history prior to that). The flicker isn't noticeable to me, though it was on the 13.3" 3810T series.

Thanks for the plug, junesix

I just wished the keyboard on the U150 was a little larger.. It's good so far but sized like a good 10-inch netbook keyboard. Plenty of wasted space on the sides.. one of my pet peeves.

Quality wise this blows the Aspire 1410 away in terms of feel and look of it. I thought I wasn't going to like the design on the lid and palm rests but I don't even notice it really (since I'm not a fan of any kind of patterns etched into notebooks)

 

At least on the 1810t I have, absolutely zero flicker is noticeable in real life.

Also, I didn't notice any of the keyboard or otherwise flex in the build quality of the 1810t. Its possible 1410 has a slightly lower build quality. Except for the subjective assessment of looks I really see nothing in this video that "blows away" the 1810t I am otherwise a Thinkpad and Lenovo user (T42, T61) btw.

 

Trust me, the U150 is easily in another class in terms of build quality though you'll have to see it and feel it in person to really appreciate that I think. That is if the 1410 is the same as the 1810T/TZ series, from pictures they look exactly the same though.

 

Hi,
I am a financially challenged college student, who spends almost 12 hours at school everyday ( with upto 5-6 hours of computer use ) and I love the idea of long battery life and compact mobility... however im one of the more media intensive users ( light photoshop, watching movies, hd youtube, tabbed browsing with upto 20 pages open at once while listening to music etc. )

So I feel that the 1810TZ is perfect for me, if anyone can suggest me otherwise I would appreciate it.

I am very curious to know from new 1810TZ owners about their experience of the battery life, do you actually get close to 8 hours of battery?

I am also concerned about the price of the laptop, its 599 at the moment, and I can buy it right now but I would rather buy it during christmas if i can get it for 500 or maybe even lower around that time... What are your comments about future prices?

Best regards,

 

according to batterybar i'm getting 6 hours for work with full charge, vista shows almost 13 hours and 1810 tray shows 11 hours.

i have question about batterybar - after two full battery cycles it shows battery wear as 7.7%. is this normal? it seems pretty high to me.
what is the best way to care about the battery?

 

Yea.. and remember at the likely list price of $599,
the Acer 1810T has an SU7300, not the slower SU2300 in the Lenovo U150.
We too are Lenovo users, BTW. (T400, T61 & an S10)

 

So quick question, I guess it`s already been answered but want to be sure.

Since the 1810T isn`t an option for me (out of stock) and I really need a notebook, I think the 1810TZ is the next best thing.

Does it got the same battery with the 1810T though ? And bluetooth?

 

Same battery.
Bluetooth depends on the exact model you want to get. You're from America? Try a model like this then, AS1810TZ-4013, and you'll get bluetooth too!

 

Yes- check the original post-

 

I`m not living in America, but have a family friend living there so he can get one for me.

I`m actually in a big dilemma. I don`t know if i should wait (problem is ,don`t know for how long) to get the SU7300 or is the SU4100 just good enough?

We heard from people owning the 1810T but the only one that got the 1810tz (cant recall his name right now) reported that the CPU was acting weird!

edit: Well "acting weird" wouldn`t be the correct thing to say, just ran some posts back and found his opinion, he said it`s not that good compared to the 7300

 

You may want to be a little careful. There is a post here from someone who's reported getting the 1810tz and it came without bluetooth, even though Acer's website lists that model having it.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5437825&postcount=436

 

i have 1810tz and it lacks bluetooth. i'm in europe though

 

Just depends on the model, there are european 1810tz models with bluetooth too.

 

Man, Acer really needs to clarify what's included in the 1410/1810 line.

Next thing you know, we're gonna have to put asterisks and disclaimers for the same models, depending on which part of these notebooks are being sold.

 

I have a few questions concerning overclock locks… Is it only acer that locks overclocking on SU4100 based machines? Or are all ultraportables with that cpu locked regardless of the manufacturer? Secondly, are acer machines with the SU7300 overclock locked too? I know from looking at asus machines that their SU7300 products can be overclocked, so I’m wondering about acer’s.
And just for the hell of it, has anyone confirmed that overclocking is also locked out on the SU2300 based acer’s? You’d assume, but it’d be nice to have it confirmed...

 

Anyone knows where I can find a cable for a bluetooth dongle to install in my 1810 tz ??

Thanks

 

Saw the unboxing of the U150.
Its a very nice looking notebook but 2 things killed it for me right away.
-Whats up with the bulging battery ?? Its rate 4600mah just like the 1410 Acer. If Acer manage to make the battery somewhat flushed with a 5600mah, why can't Lenovo ?? The battery look noticeable bigger than the Acer even though its rated only at 4600mah.
-Price. I doubt Lenovo will be able to price the u150/u2300 at $399.
If they can price it at $450, it may sell. I'm guessing more like $500.+

 

How much more powerful is something like this to an Atom powered netbook?

 

A lot more. The extra core helps, there is more L2 cache, the ability to use more than 2GB of ram, the processor is out of order (Atom is in order), and the gpu is much more capable than the GMA 950 in current netbooks.

 

Do these machines (SU4100 and SU7300) play 1080p videos or just 720p?

Am I asking too much?

 

A calibration might help(let the batter run down from full to empty till the laptop turns itself off, the fully charge again). Vista power meter is not accurate. Battery Bar has its quirks too, but it is the best we have so far. Check "Optimizing battery life and undervolting" in Timeline Tweaks.

1410/1810t/1810tz should all be identical internally except CPU and other secondary features, so the lock will be the same and unlocking procedure will be the same, too.

 

both of em are actually overkill, check out the su2300 and see for yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHFHFfeQfCo&feature=player_profilepage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4EhaKTmWXc&feature=player_profilepage

 

Quick question: Is ist possible to play Battlefield 2 on the one with the SU4100?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=426210
Performance should be similar to su3500 in games.

 

Yes it does at least mine does, I can get around 8-9 hours of battery use out of it without any problems, thats with the 1810tz and Win7.

It's not the best build quality I've seen, especially when I compare it with my Lenovo T and X series, but it's still decent, cheap and very light.

 

hi everybody, i'm a new user from milan italy.
i'm in the market for a netbook / subnotebook. i was thinking about the 1810tz or eventually the samsung n510 or samsung x120. could you compare these?
what about the eee 1201n dual core. will it be the fastest?
thank you
Federico

 

An N330 will not beat an SU4100 or SU7300. The only thing better about the 1201 is the graphics.

 

At Amazon.com the 1810T went from Pre-order to Out of Stock. I presume they got some in but all had to be shipped.........

 

Thanks for the pictures, helped me with my final decision and I went for it.

I think living in the UK we have slight variances to the models your getting, but all in all I think I am going to be a happy bunny.

Should be here sometime this week from http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172294

 

I don't think I'd call it overkill, when the first video clearly shows frames being dropped and 100% CPU usage. Don't get me wrong, like the guy said it's certainly watchable, and the 1410 is definitely the best "bang for your buck". Keep in mind however, those results were obtained with no other windows or applications running. That's not a situation I find myself in very often and I don't like having to close things out in order to get smooth video playback.

When I watch that Zombieland trailer on my 1810T CPU usage averages 55-60%. I suppose you could call that overkill. I think of it more as a decent amount of headroom.

 

So far the 1810T is performing as expected. However, I have run into one interesting anomaly. I initially reported that AVC HD playback was 100% smooth with only about 30% CPU usage. After watching more of my video's I noticed that I am getting some slow down or freezing, especially on fast moving scenes. What's interesting is that even when this happens CPU usage remains at 30% so that's not the problem. So far I've just been using WMP, so the first thing I'm going to try is installing VLC media player and see if that does any better. I also haven't updated any drivers, so...

I'll report back on how VLC does, but in the mean time... any suggestions?

 

I believe I had seen a post either in this dual-core model thread or the single-core model thread of news of an even larger capacity battery coming for these models than the ones in the current 1810 models. Anyone have a link to that post or the news?

 

Black one on Amazon.com new status "Ships withing 3 to 6 weeks"

Is amazon accurate with these predictions? What are the chances to recieve in 3 and what in 6 weeks?

 

http://netbooked.net/blog/acer-aspire-timeline-to-get-9-cell-12-hour-battery/

 

Thank you der_mali.

Although it seems this new battery will be for the 13.3" models, not the 11.6" models.

Even though the current batteries give plenty of juice, you can never have enough. I am going to India and thinking of buying a notebook. I would be in places where electricity can be spotty so I wanted as long a battery as possible. Or I could always purchase an additional battery.

 

@Rahul
That's not what the update meant. The 11.6" models might get the larger batteries, too. I'll search for the original post so that you can follow the discussion that led to the update.

Starting here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=401647&page=308

frychiko is the guy from Netbooked who posted the article.

 

JR is showing in stock now!!!!! Go crazy everyone with bing cashback! LOL.

I ordered this last week. I better get a shipped notification email soon!!!! I'm getting impatient.

 

I concur. One can often set up the laptop with optimum conditions for the best performance, but how often is real-world conditions truly optimum? Also, do benchmarks truly mirror real-world performance? I don't want to join the SU2300 vs. SU7300 debate because frankly as far as I can tell, no one really has really has any real hard data about the processors, their architecture and what is truly different about them in the silicon (thanks to Intel, which makes it a point to fudge it). So if I were to suggest a rule of thumb: If you are looking for price being one of strongest decision metrics, go for the best bang for the buck and get the SU2300/SU4100. If on the other hand, you think you'll keep the laptop for a while and can afford some leeway with the price and get some headroom, get the SU7300. Rest is mostly opinion, imo

 

I have a better question. Why is everyone so concerned with these benchmark numbers. You can only gain so much speed without sacraficing battery time. And how old are a majority of people here? Everyones benchmark is against video game performance. I wanna know how well it'll load up my 300 page journal in words or 5000 line excel formula

 

Just gonna leave this link here...Looks like newegg got some stock while amazon's saying 3-6 weeks?!

AS1810T-8638

Gaidin

 

do you think it would be good hackintosh? is atom n330 that slow?
thank you
Fede

 

Hackintosh discussions are against forum rules

 

What is everyone's thoughts on getting the 1810 or waiting for the tablet version? If they have the same spec's does everyone expect them to operate the same, being one is a tablet? Do people think the tablet will be a gimick and kind of slow? If it is only a $100-$200 more and the money isn't a huge issue should I wait? I am especially interested in Der Mali's opinion. I was ready to order the 1810t until the tablet information leaked.

Thanks,
P

 

I've been waiting for this for a while, and would love to pull the trigger already. The only thing holding me back is the reflective screen and cheap glossy plastic lid. Any chance of something comparable in performance and price materializing anytime soon? Or should I just forget about aesthetics and order this already?
Is there anything one can do to get around the gloss? Perhaps some kind of skin or something?