Acer Aspire 1410 and 1810 Timeline 11.6" Thread

Here's how mine looks like.

 

Your software doesn't see the FSB change to 100MHz from 200MHz. It's not running at 1.6gHz, but 800MHz. It's the lowest power mode for the CPU.

 

Sorry if I'm being dense here, but my 1410 is not recognizing horizontal two finger scrolling. Any thoughts on how to make this work?
Warm regards

 

Don't know if there is an SSD Forum here somewhere, but...

I seriously considered an OCZ 128 solid state drive a few months ago.
Decided to wait for a while after doing a good bit of research.
Seems like there are technical issues with so many drives.
Also could not quite accept the idea that SSD performance deteriorates over time.

Are the newest SSDs now ready for (informed) non-geek types, like me?

 

It has less to do with the hardware and more to do with the coding of the software. Some browsers are better at things than others. Opera is good a page rendering speed, Chrome is good at streaming, Firefox is good at standard implementation, etc. Internet Explorer has always been the slacker of the pack, only becoming respectable with Internet Explorer 7.

 

Yup. You need to get that switched over to the Microsoft AHCI driver to get the Auto TRIM support. Sorta stupid, isn't it? Intel stated their drivers won't have support for it until mid-2010.

Cheers,
Kermee

 

SSD's are still "bleeding" edge IMHO. If you're okay with doing firmware updates, messing around with SSD tools and manual trims, then you'll be fine. If you're expecting SSD's to run like traditional HDD's out of the box and all you have to worry about is defragment every few weeks... They're getting there (especially with Windows 7, Auto TRIM support for Intel X-25M G2 drives)... But not quite there yet

Plus. Price premium. But SSD's makes a machine *FLY*... and are perfect for our 1410 and 1810T/TZ's. I'm waiting for the Kingston 40GB (5-channel) rebranded Intel X-25M G2 to put into a 1410. I have a G2 80GB on the way for my 1810T.

Cheers,
Kermee

 

I thought not having to defragment is one of the upsides of an SSD (And the garbage cleanup is taken care of by the controller)

 

It is, but he said that with traditional HDD's all you have to worry about is doing a defrag every few weeks

 

i have the 1410 with SU2300. from BIOS screen to login screen is 30 secs for me. i did a clean install of windows HP X64 though.

 

The 1810T was already editor's choice, now the 1410 too.

http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/acer-aspire-1410.aspx

 

Great! I have one with 3GB of RAM and a 320GB hard drive on the way

 

They also reviewed the Gateway EC1430U, a rebrand of the 1410/1810 yet it didn't receive the editor's choice reward and received a slightly lower score.

http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptop/gateway-ec-1430u.aspx

I do prefer the Gateway's design myself.

Interesting they say the 1410 got very warm on the bottom left hand side but not with their review of the Gateway and 1810 Timeline which use higher-end processors. Is that the sole reason?

 

Well the Gateway uses a different chassis and it seems the keyboard flexes more, according to Laptopmag.

Probably luck of the draw. Each individual SU2300 (or SU4100) can behave different. Different temperatures and power consumption.

 

Hmm guys, another fella asked the same question but got no answer.

Could the power brick be used for 220V with a Converter?
If you can remember i ordered a 1810T from the States, but i want to use it in Greece.

Would a converter from 110 to 220V cause me any problems?

 

The review incorrectly indicates that this 1410 with SU2300 comes with a 250GB hard drive. The specs at the end correctly show 160GB.

Where are you getting a 1410 with 3GB and 320GB? Must be a non-US model?

 

My Vaio TZ was bought in the U.S with 110V and I used it in India which uses 220V with absolutely no problems. All I needed was an adapter to connect to their outlets that have different plug designs which vary internationally.

Just about every laptop can accept 110-220V, you can read it on the power 'brick'/supply itself where it will say 110V-220V. It will automatically convert the voltage for you.

 

Yes. All 1410 here have 3GB of RAM. Some have a 160GB HDD and others have a 320GB HDD.

 

http://netbooked.net/netbook-reviews/review/11.6-acer-aspire-as1410-celeron-su2300-review/

Another great review =]

 

Our 1410 (SU2300) came with the following AC adapter: http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/46-47890-1868/HIPRO-HP-A0301R3-AC-Power-Adapter.html

Note the input voltage spec: 100-240V~ 1.0A, 50-60Hz

This means that this AC adapter can be used in Europe by just using a plug adapter. E.g. convert the US plug to the German plug. Never use one of those travel voltage converters (change 220v to 110v) with your laptop or any electronics. They are designed for small appliances like hair dryers and the electricity they put out is not "clean" enough for electronics.

 

Awesome, thanks a lot mate

 

This makes sense to me. The one thing that makes me wonder if there's more to it, is the fact that my (quad core) desktop doesn't have this problem. Does this simply mean that if the processor is powerful enough it can make up for the shortcomings in the software?

 

I think they say the Acer runs faster while having slightly better battery life. They don't however, mention that the Acer has a glossy screen bezel and that could be annoying if you're using the laptop outdoors on a sunny day. My friend with a 10" eeepc pointed that out to me.

Still keeping my Gateway thank you.

 

noise on headphones?

When I plug in the headphones I can hear terrible noise, it is unacceptable for me. Does this happen to you guys?

 

I'm using the cheap white iPod headphones. No noticeable hiss or noise.

Cheers,
Kermee

 

Anyone have any thoughts on this for adding internal Bluetooth to the 1410:

eBay: New 2.1 EDR Acer 1410 1410T 1810 Bluetooth Module cable

I'd like to free up my left USB port

Cheers,
Kermee

 

yeah: me. I've bought an internal bluetooth device, but it ships from USA and I live in Spain.. I may have to wait a while until I get it!

 

Hi PatrickVogeli,

I saw your post in the other thread. Which eBay seller did you purchase yours from? The one I'm looking at ships from China/Hong Kong... LOL.

Cheers,
Kermee

 

I bought from linknergy, powerseller with 99,9% positive votes.

 

Think I found it... This one, right?

Cheers,
Kermee

 

That's quite a lot of work to plug that cable in there. I'm not sure for somebody who uses BT very infrequently is going to have issue with a USB dongle as small as this one.

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.11866

It even has native Windows support so no drivers required. I'm worried that even with the internal BT turned off, currents still go thru the module therefore reduce battery life.

 

Yeah, that's it. Mine is sold as Bluetooth for the 1810T, but it's the same, same photos and price.

 

Does anyone think the 1810T will be discounted for black friday/cyber Monday?

 

If you check the big sellers like Amazon, JR , Newegg , Tigerdirect etc you will notice that everything is sold out.
So i guess a discount is not likely

 

I have the same system, but my full boot time is about twice that (about 60 seconds to get to the desktop-- I have the system set for only one user and I bypass the login screen). I'm guessing that it doesn't take you 30 seconds to get from the login screen to the desktop?

I'm running the latest BIOS (3120). I've removed all the bloatware and installed AVG-Free 9.0. I've looked at the latest drivers on Acer's site and it looks as though all of those are already on my system, with the possible exception of the "chipset drivers"-- I can't correlate those version #'s with specific items in Device Manager. Can you tell me what to look at in Device Manager to see what chipset drivers I have?

Are there any other drivers I should look at (or other things altogether) that might improve boot time? (This is Win 7 HP-64, factory installed.)

 

I got the 1810T-8638 this Friday from J&R. It's replacing my soon to be returned ION based HP 311. If anyone has any comparison questions, feel free to ask.

I replaced the included 320gb HDD with a Kingston SSDNow V Series 128GB SSD

I have a 160gb Intel G2 in my main laptop, but didn't think it was worth getting a high end SSD for the Acer. The 128GB Kingston SSD is a low end model and cost me $212 at my local Fry's Electronics store, it's fast enough for my needs. If you care about high performance get an Intel G2, OCZ Agility or OCZ Vertex SSD.

I wiped the 1810T and loaded Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on it, downloaded all the drivers from Intel (chipset, SATA, and graphic drivers) and Acer support website (webcam, memory card, launcher, and touchpad drivers). I'm using the native Windows WiFi, LAN, and Bluetooth drivers.

The Kingston works great for boot up, about 10 seconds from logo to usable desktop. Application launches are fairly quick, and rest of computing is fairly normal, comparable to the HDD. I'm more comfortable knocking this around with an SSD in it. Now that there's no drive noise the fan noise is a lot more noticeable, I may use the 1810T tweaker tool to play with the fan later, I'm a little wary and don't want to overheat this thing.

I'm able to output pretty much all 1080p mkv content smoothly out HDMI using the Windows 7 H.264 codecs in Windows Media Player 12. I find MPC-HC just isn't as smooth for the most demanding content even when I set MPC-HC to use the Windows 7 H.264 DXVA codecs as opposed to its native DXVA codecs (and yes I've applied the reg hack for MPC-HC to enable DXVA on out of spec videos).

 

Great info! ... Definitely play with the 1810T tweaker (1810Tray). It'll make your system virtually silent. I've noticed that during normal use, the temperature difference between "native" and "auto" is marginal (maybe 3C or so warmer). But the 1810T is virtually silent.

I have an Intel X-25M G2 80GB coming in for my 1810T this week. Snagged the Kingston version (SNM225-S2) off Newegg @ $245 USD; Only had one left The 160GB G2 Kingston version is still only $469 USD with free S/H but OOS. ... Waiting for the new 40GB 5-Channel Kingston ($85 USD after $30 MIR) based off the X-25M G2 to hit Newegg tomorrow to put into the 1410.

AFAIK, it's an Intel driver issue for not deblocking. Maybe I'll try out the Windows 7 H.264 codecs for WMP12 also... Thanks for the tip!

Cheers,
Kermee

 

Can anyone comment on the paint quality on the AS1410/1810? Is the plastic colored the same as the paint, or is the underlying plastic something neutral?

 

Actually, I timed my 1810t (stock HDD and no OS reinstall -- just bloatware removal) and it comes out to be about 60 s to fully usable desktop. In fact, about 20 - 30 seconds is required to get from login screen to desktop, which is indeed rather high and could be because of the installed Antivirus, 1810tray, etc. While I'm not really bothered by this rather high login-desktop time, since my preferred usage model is sleep/hibernate rather than reboot unless required to, it'd be nice to any special tweaks specific to the 1810 that anyone might have to reduce the boot-time. I have already used msconfig to remove the non-essential stuff that I could find. However, I am personally not willing to invest time in reinstalling the OS, since the boot time is almost purely an academic interest for me

 

I thought the HP 311 was better for gaming video encoding and playback because of the Ion GPU - What made you switch?

 

Whoa! On a clean install Win7 HP x64 it cold boots in around 30-40seconds with absolutely no tweaking whatsoever, except turning off Aero and indexing. I have only a minimum set of Acer utils/drivers and also have an antivirus, task managers of all sorts, RMClock, etc, installed...

 

I tried this laptop at computer store and it seemed unacceptably slow compared to my 1410 with SU3500. Though I assure you, if HP had exactly same specs as Acer 1410 with Ion instead of Intel GMA then I'd be the first in line to get it

 

The main reason I wanted ION was smooth 1080p HDMI output of any video I throw at it. Which it does wonderfully (even better than the 4500mhd since it has bitstream DXVA support and more video decoding horse power).

But the 1810T's 4500mhd also does 1080p decoding wonderfully (95% as good as the 311s), and gives a much better punch in general computing power, not to mention true multi core, 64-bit, and virtual machine extension support. The gigabit Ethernet also comes in handy when copying large media files to the hard drive. The HP 311 Ethernet is 10/100.

The HP 311 has a more solid build quality (feels like thicker plastic between chasis and internal components), worse keyboard, much better webcam (resolution and quality), and better display (less leakage compared to the Acer display).

Neither the ION based 311 or Acer 1810T are for gaming. The ION is too hampered by the Atom processor to do any type of gaming I care about (left4dead, UT3), and on the 1810T the 4500mhd based graphics is the limiting factor. Now if there existed an ION + SU7300 processor then gaming might be a different story. Maybe with ION 2 which isn't tied to Atom like ION, but who really knows when a product using ION 2 will come out, it's price premium and what effect it will have on battery life.

Another reason for ION is hackintosh/linux support, which I don't care about. The 4500mhd has no known or scheduled compatibility with hackintosh setups.

I upgraded to the 311 from an MSI Wind U100, both use the Atom N270 for the CPU and the Atom processor has started feeling a little long in the tooth when it comes to processor performance. You can't really multi task with Atom, you can only really do one thing at a time if you hope to have semi decent performance doing that task.

The Acer is a much better general purpose computer. I can actually multi task and its feels more like a small notebook than a netbook processing wise. And until Flash 10.1 with DXVA acceleration comes out the Acer is also much better for Flash video (Youtube/Hulu). Once the Flash 10.1 updates comes out hopefully the 4500mhd will also benefit from it since although NVidia is helping Adobe implement acceleration it's based on DXVA instead of some NVidia proprietary technology like CUDA.

The 1810T has much better battery life (8-1/2" hours vs 5 hours 42min of the 311). The 311 battery life is pretty close to the battery life of the similarly priced Acer 1410 (6 hours).

If you did feature upgrades to 311 from HP's website to make it close to the 1810T specs (Windows 7 upgrade, upgrade to 3 gb of ram, 802.11n upgrade, bluetooth upgrade) then the pricing becomes very close to that of the 1810T (especially considering HP's ridiculous shipping prices + CA tax). As opposed to J&R's free shipping, tax only in NY.

If you don't want the extra battery life, internal bluetooth, 2GB ram upgrade, and slight CPU boost for an extra $200 then the 1410-2285 is the best bang for the buck @ 399.

 

I want an 11.6" chassis with an Intel SU7300 paired with ION or ION 2

I loved my ASUS N10J-A1 which has an Intel N270 paired with a discrete Geforce 9300M GS... But the CPU power was just not enough and I was willing to sacrifice the GPU for the CPU and I personally got the Acer 1810T instead.

Word on the street though is ASUS is working on the UL30Vt-A1... A 13.3" SU7300 that's paired with a discrete Geforce 210M switchable with the 4500MHD... However most people who think 10.1" is pushing the form-factor size, 11.6" is the largest I'll go for a "netbook" replacement. 13.3" is probably too large of a chassis, respectively speaking of course.

Cheers,
Kermee

 

CULV + ION2 would be extremely awesome. But yea I feel the same way as you, I want something small and I really like the 11.6" size. 13.3" definitely isn't for me, I learned that right away when I got my sister her HP dm3z.

 

You'll never see ION on anything but the Atom because of some legal crap between NVidia and Intel. However ION 2 will not have this limitation.

 

The Intel GS45 chipset with ICH9M has SATA2 support onboard.

http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/prodbrief/319505.pdf

 

Docs for South Bridge: Intel 82801IEM ICH9M-E disagree on this. So does Intel Matrix Storage Manager (reports as Generation 1). So does CrystalDiskInfo (reports as SATA/150).

I'd like to be proven wrong on this, can someone with an 11.6" Acer model show a screenshot of the Intel Matrix Storage Manager or CrystalDiskInfo showing something other than SATA/150 or Generation 1?

 

^Can you check your bios to see if you're running IDE or AHCI mode?

Screenshot from mine:

 

First thing I checked when I opened it from the box. AHCI mode. Also AHCI is reported by Intel SATA drivers, and the Microsoft AHCI drivers before I loaded the Intel AHCI drivers.