Acer Aspire 1410 and 1810T Timeline (single core) 11.6" Thread

Amazon has a link to the following "confidential" sales PDF datasheet:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/00/00/05/47/64/13/547641310.pdf

Looks like the targeted on-shelf date was August 20, so I suspect that J&R and other vendors should have the 1410 listed as being "in stock" by this weekend, if not early next week.

 

Man. What a dilemma. After lots of reading and waiting for "the perfect netbook", I've finally decided to order my 1810T (at informatique, NL). I just can't wait until the dual core. I need to use it sooner rather than later and waiting until Win7 is out before the TZ comes out. As the shop has it in stock, I'm hoping I'll also be able to pick up my 1810T tomorrow.

I had the Acer Aspire One D250 (HD version), the Samsung N510 and the MSI U210-010 on my list, all yet to be released. Main point of doubt was the CPU power. The C2S solves this for me. I'm sure I'll be very pleased with my 1810T choice.

This thread really contained a lot of info, especially regarding the video playback. The review by Phil also helped a lot. Thanks for that!

[edit]BTW, anyone know if the CPU is soldered on board, or if it's replaceable?[/edit]

 

So where is that Famous DUAL CORE unit everyone has been talking about ?. .. looks like it not gonna happen... well at least not outside of China ...

 

pretty sure that they will be soldered as they are in the biiger brothers (38/48/58xx), what spec is your 1810T ?

 

Ah ok. Didn't know how it was like in the brother/sister models.

The specs can be found here (google translated here).

Besides that I already have a 320GB 7200rpm WD hdd lying around here in my old laptop, so I'm probably going to put that one in. The 320GB WD was available in 5400RPM and 7200RPM, both using the same amount of energy (probably after spin-up, the energy usage is almost identical?).

I'll be upgrading memory to 4GB shortly as well probably.

 

Upgrade to an SSD if you can, just bought a RunCore Pro IV... speechless.. !

 

How do you figure? The dual core model is a 1810TZ and that brochure is only for the 1410. Why would a brochure for the 1410 have information about the 1810TZ?

 

Holy ...., they're expensive. For me, SSD's are still too expensive. I'm not going to pay 850 euros for a 256MB runcore ssd.

Although, after watching the vid here, which shows windows starting up with 20 apps in the startup folder, I'd almost be persuaded to get one. Just watching that made me realise how much of a bottleneck the HDD is.

 

I don't think anyone will. I guess it's a good thing they're not offering a 256MB ssd.

 

MAte go have a look at these numbers I just posted in the HP forum, its an "OLD" HP2510p http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5231090&postcount=214 that just learnt to fly...

Dont forget though that that is using a Caddy with a PATA-> SATA bridge as the 2510 does not support SATA ...

 

Simple go back in this thread and its being quoted, also the downloads from Acer, shows the 1410 & 1810 in the same User guide, and apart from references on a number of sites in china no real proof that it exists.. ... and the only Dual core mentioned even there is a 1410T with a U1400 Dual core

 

Um, the dual core is coming. Be patient.

 

I am staying in China for another year, so I hope that I can get the dual core, but I know that prices for Acers (and all computers) here are much more than in the US.
Anyway, here are a few more images:

 

You know I was just reading back through Phil's review again and the one thing he doesn't mention is whether the 1810T DOES have bluetooth? I see it mentioned in the specs but those are the SAME specs that the 1410 have listed on the Quick Start Guide. Phil can you confirm bluetooth in the 1810T please? Thanks.

 

Here in Spain there was listed at two retailers in Barcelona at the beginning, but one has removed it actually, so only this one by now:

http://www.acuista.com/x/436493-aspire_1810t_413g25n_intel_pen_lx_pj302_001 --->>> 490€ !!

But actually one more has added it, with reference to the three colours:Blue Black and Red:

Acer Aspire AS1810T-413G25n Azul (LX.PJ302.001)
Acer Aspire AS1810T-413G25n Negro (LX.PJ502.001)
Acer Aspire AS1810T-413G25n Rojo (LX.PJ402.001)

Some more references in the Web:

http://www.netbookchoice.com/2009/0...e-1810tz-to-feature-dual-core-culv-processor/

http://www.netbookreviews.net/acer/aspire-1810tz/

So not only in Acer China !!

We must wait until next month .... I am also interested into get one 1810TZ !!

So it looks like the official reference is: Aspire 1810T-413G25n

Cheers

 

Just put this in Google from time to time. More Outside-China-links appear on a daily basis

LX.PJ502.051

 

Acer Deutchsland has a refererence to the 1410 !

http://www.acer.de/acer/productv.do...ctx1g.c2att92=80&ctx1.att21k=1&CRC=1508068381

The 1810 still is not there:

http://www.acer.de/acer/product_det...e=
&slot11e_presel=
&slot43e=
&CRC=1067519345

And it is not in the Netbook area !!

Some Acer references:

Acer Timeline 1801T ( Réf 353G25N ): 1.4GHz Intel ULV SU3500

Acer Timeline 1801TZ : 1.3GHz dual-core SU4100 ( Acer China )

Acer Aspire 1410 ( Réf 722G25N) : 1.2GHZ Intel Celeron 723 processor ( Acer Allemagne )

Cheers

 

There is no Bluetooth on Acer 1810T-352G16N.

 

Curious ... it looks like they are still changing o making different reference depending on market ...

PS:

I see !!! Acer 1810T-352G16N is for the 160 Gb HD !!!! Not the 250 Gb HD

http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/244348/acer-aspire-1810t-352g16n.html

Cheers

 

Seems like it's available on ebay though: click.

 

"16N" at the end of the part number means 160GB HDD, 25N means 250GB and 32N means 320GB

I think it's best to look at the SKUs

Let's try to figure it out.

edit:

(5/4/3)=(black/red/blue)

1810T:
LX.SA(5/4/3) 02.XXX

1810TZ:
LX.PJ(5/4/3) 02.XXX

Guesswork:
085: 160GB, no bluetooth

 

Just read my posts ago, it´s already available in Europe in my shop in 17 days...

 

It's appearing in Switzerland for 519€
http://server3.eshopv5.eu/krob/index.jsf

Windows 7 Version, so end of October.

 

Is there a place in the United States where you can get the 1810T? All I've been able to find is the 1410, and I really want that extra battery capacity.

 

I think the reason for releasing the 1410 model in the US first is the general sensitivity to pricing in the US. Europeans can only dream of such cheap electronics. The 1810t(z) will have to be more expensive.

 

Yes I know. Like the one in my review

 

As i posted in the other thread, the lineup of the 1410 and 1810t - at least in europe - might look like this:

The 1410-series will be the budget-version of the 1810t (in other markets the naming might be different):

1410 : Celeron 743 or SU2300 Pentium DualCore (2*1.2 GHz, 1MB Cache)
1810t/tz : Core 2 Duo / Solo (SU4100/SU3500) (x*1.4 GHz, 3 MB Cache)

I highly doubt that the SU2300, crippled by 1MB of cache, will be able to compete with the SU3500. Hence the 1410 (Celeron 743/SU2300: 399/449€) is aiming in the direction of the standart-netbooks and the 1810t (SU3500/SU4100: 499€ / 549€??) at the more demanding netbook-users

I think its a quite easy way for acer to cover a big part of the netbook-market with 4 modells consisting of the same basis, as all modells seem to have similar a interior (excluding CPU,RAM and HDD).

Yours,

Tobi

 

Yeah !! I think that´s clear now ... Tks.

Here is a Acer Aspire 1810T-352G25N Timeline rot ( LX.SA30X.031)
Core 2 Solo SU3500 1.40GHz • 2048MB • 250GB

http://geizhals.at/a448700.html

And here is another Acer Aspire 1810T-352G25N Timeline schwarz ( LX.SA20X.079)
Core 2 Solo SU3500 1.40GHz • 2048MB • 250GB

http://buy.fudzilla.com/a448702.html

I think is more confusing by SKU ... do you see anyway to make a rule to identify better the 1810´s ??
The first one is RED, the second is BLACK (rot/schwarz)

Cheers

 

BTW, I know only a few words in german ... but it looks like Redcoon.de has it in stock the red version: 2 days !?

Acer Aspire 1810T-352G25N red

http://www.redcoon.at/index.php/cmd/shop/a/ProductDetail/pid/B190213/cid/8005/refId/geizhals/

Also in other EU sites is starting:

http://www.pcandmore.at/Default.aspx?tabID=55&mdsUCID=4&crs=1&artikelID=AA32367

Gauuuu!! 100€ more in Redcoon.at !! than in Redcoon Germany

I shall wait to see how is priced at Redcoon Spain



Cheers

 

they were joking.. he wrote 256mb... not gb

 

There are several places in Germany that have the 1810t in stock. It's kind of painful to see them appearing, now that I've decided to wait for 1810tz. I really wish that some of you guys/gals who are lurking these boards and buying that thing, step out the dark and post your thoughts here!

It will shorten the waiting if we have some more reviews to check.

Edit:

There goes my theory, sigh.

 

mate the first 3 are just retailers.. so nothing official

the other 2 sites u linked to just say "blah blah blah ... on the acer china site..." perhaps read before linking

 

did u click on any... ?
either they cross reference each other... or are simple sear bot returns to make sure you click on the site, when there no reference

 

I wonder what it takes to convince you, that it exists and is coming at least to Europe
I'll post a pic when I got my 1810tz

 

Yep... just trying to make sure we keep our feet on the ground... I have a Sony SR4x here that and will never exist in the states or in the EU.

 

I am affraid he is like St. Thomas ... he needs to put his finger on to believe ... (nothing wrong with that, btw)

Or our desire is bigger !! But we have not invented the device ...
The truth is outthere ... (X File)
Let´s wait and see ...

 

I think SU2300 will beat SU3500 in most situations, by quite a margin.

In Passmark CPU Mark 660-700 vs. 490.

What does everyone else think?

 

I understand your standpoint
I like to work with probabilities instead of evidence. Kind of a fuzzy logic approach. It gives more room for speculation which is more fun

Edit:

I agree that it should be faster performing tasks that support multicore architecture.
While we are at it, I did some more research before I made my decision and read that even older games often got patches later on supporting offloading stuff to the second core. Even Doom 3 got a patch. A second core roughly makes a difference of two MHz steppings on desktops performing those patched applications. So a su2300 should be at least on par with su3500 in half-heartedly optimized applications. Benchmarks like SuperPi don't support multi-cores.
I don't know how much of a difference those 2megs less cache make, though.

 

oh I agree 100%, but some people here want to push the envelope for 10s of fame...

when if we look at it >80% probability is nearly good enough, but knowing from the inside how this industry works...

vague references just mean like on the example of google we just talked about , suddenly something with a 50/50 chance, takes on its own dynamic...

and we end up have these threads filled up with 100s of meaningless "sightings", so that a new user cant really see the woods for the trees, then ends up buying the wrong thing, or waiting to long

 

My opinion: sightings of dual core versions are not "meaningless" and please keep posting them

 

I fully agree! That grain-of-salt-thinking is rule number one on the web
I was grinning a few times when I read the rumors of 1810tz spreading through news sites. Even if Acer didn't plan to release it outside China, chances are, that the hype or purchase reluctance created by that rumors would force Acer to release the 1810tz. Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy

 

Oh god. Can't believe I missed that, twice.

 

@phil, der_mali:

hmm, so the SU2300 is faster than the SU3500.

This doesn't help me at all in deciding whether to buy the 1810t now or wait for the tz or the 1410 with su2300 - i hate having to buy a new notebook On the other hand, i hate waiting for a notebooks release even more .... ahh, why oh why is my beloved R100 dying on me - you guessed right: i hate it


Tobi

 

lol

I had two shops listing the 1810t in stock open in my browser for two days. I was so close to click 'buy' just to get rid of this problem

 

SU3500 is enough for normal usage, light multi tasking and normal Youtube, but it's not powerful enough for Youtube and Hulu HD.

SU2300 will be enough for medium multi tasking, Youtube and Hulu HD.

 

@phil:

i have read your review again and i tend to think that the su3500 should suffice for me. The most demanding application i tend to use are h264 encoded 1080p clips which should play smooth according to your review.
I don't need youtube in HD

Additionally i will most probably upgrade the HDD to an SSD and expect an additional boost in performance due to the SSD.

What do you think ?

Thanks in advance,

Tobi

 

Well it plays smooth to the eye, but it does hit 100% quite often. I think you would be better served with a little more headroom: SU2300 (or SU4100).

Unfortunately I haven't tested H264 playback on battery. Performance might be less.

An SSD would be a very good idea. It will give a very noticeable performance boost, provided you buy a fast SSD.

 

I got that in my inbox last night...guess the 1410 preorderers will have to wait.

 

Anyone have pricing on the TZ? I know the 1410 is $449 in the States. I wonder if the TZ will be more than $200 over the regular 1410?

 

By the looks of European pricing it won't.