Acer Aspire 1410 and 1810T Timeline (single core) 11.6" Thread

The price difference is roughly 18 US dollars here between those two kittys

 

Some more info about 1810tz in that Swiss shop:
There is also a 3GB RAM, 320GB HDD, 3G version on the site for 619€

 

Nice video playback benchmarks SU3500 vs. SU9400 with X4500:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/17435/6

 

Wait, it's just $18? Great, now I think I should wait for the TZ...

 

Join the club

 

Don't confuse the pricing practice in different parts of the world.

Edit:
Also that converted difference of $18 is between 1810t and 1810tz not 1410 and 1810tz.

 

When did you order yours??

 

I agree, but it's very likely the price difference between SU3500 and SU2300 will be less than $100 (if all other parts are equal).

 

I suppose you mean su4100? $25-$50 is my guesstimate.

 

@phil:

And there is my problem: if this is right, and there is a 1410 with the su2300 and a 1810t with the su3500, and the 1410 is 100$ cheaper and faster - does acer really think that they will sell some 1810t ??
Even if the battery of the 1410 is slightly weaker (maybe 7h to 8h of the 1810).

There has to be a bigger difference between these two, justifying the higher price.

Comparing the 1810t ( http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a448702.html ) and the 1410 with the su2300 ( http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a454375.html ) i noticed that they stated that the X4500HD shares up to 384MB RAM, whereas the 1810T shares up to 1782MB - why the difference ? Is it just a mistake ?

Tobi

 

That's something the retailers didn't get right when posting the product description. 1782MB is the maximum shared memory when you have got 4GB of RAM on a 64bit OS. It's not dependent on the model, just on amount of RAM and OS(32bit or 64bit).

Edit:
We are getting into trouble here comparing localized configurations. I suppose that a 1410 with su3500 won't be available in Europe. The European 1410 versions come either with Celeron or su2300. The American 1410 with su3500 doesn't fit in that scheme, so price predictions are very difficult.

 

The price prediction would be just between the posted prices for the localized 1410 with su2300 and the 1810t with the su3500, which is 50€ in favor of the 1410.

edit:
I guess Acer gives the "standart" CULV (su3500 and su4100) the Timeline-tag (fitting into the whole series) and the low-cost CPU line (743, su2300) is named 1410 - at least in europe. Maybe they have forfitted this for the us-market in favor of a more homogeneous picture and you will see only modells named 1410.

Tobi

 

Hold it. The 1410 does come with the su3500 in the states. What's a su2300?

 

@john:

i was talking about a european configuration which might also be available in the states.

Tobi

 

su2300 is a dual core Pentium 1.2GHz 1MB cache CULV processor.

 

Is that that the same as a su4100 or are we talking about a completely different processor?

 

I actually meant SU2300 because I was referring to the US where it's the 1410 with SU3500. But let's just wait to see what happens.

Different CPU. SU4100 runs at 1.3Ghz. And I guess has 2MB cache.

 

I would assume they reserve the 'timeline' tag for computers with 8 hours autonomy. In the US, the 1410 only has a battery life of 6 hours.

Maybe the US 1810T has the same specs but with the 5600mAh battery and some other minor upgrade (bluetooth?).

 

Yes indeed, the Timeline tag is reserved for 8 hours battery life.

That's why the 1410 isn't called Timeline.

 

But, still a guess and no hard evidence. Although, I can live with a $50 increase for a dual core.

 

The 1410 is in stock here:

http://www.costcentral.com/proddetail/Acer_Aspire_1410_8414/LXSA90X059/10942146

And I heard from another website that Amazon has them in stock. So, what is going on over at J&R?

 

Yeah the blue version is in stock at Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...f?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1250960632&sr=8-1

I was going to order it, but I forgot its subject to sales tax if I ship it to Washington (~$43). I guess I'll wait for J&R to get their act together. I'll call them on Monday to see whats going on.

 

If J&R doesn't ship on Monday, I'm gonna cancel and order from Amazon.

 

Did anyone else get the "Backordered" email from J&R? Or was that just me, because they think ticking off tech bloggers is a good idea?

 

I got the same email 4 days after I ordered. Looks like it was just automatically generated; I'm hoping to get the "we've shipped your order" email sometime this week but who knows.

 

Mate thats your opinion...and stick too it.. just appreciate thats is not shared by all.. and why are you mis quoting me ... ?

 

It can also back fire big time... example..

With all the hype and rumors of new products just weeks away... no one goes out and buys what's there as they all want to wait for the next best thing.. or HGR (High Goods returned Rate) are generated (US Style Try Before u Buy), or the Sellers are nervous RLC (Reduced Life Cycle :- too short) so they under stock and you end up with UCD (Unsatisfied Consumer Demand) .... its call the Osborn Syndrome ... !!!

Unfortunately the lead times means that to create a NEW version, they have to go through Productization and Homologation which can take 3-6 months.. usually the hype starts at the point that the senior management, agrees to build , Concept it created and press release/launch event made... now they build it and run off to FCC (TUV) etc for Regulatory Approvals.. thats why you still see product announcements/launches and wait months to buy..

Then you have the release schedules for the different markets, collateral creation & production, Local Safety & Regulatory Approval... even for someone like acer, to go from NPR (No Planned Release) to OSD (On Shelf Date) we are talking of a minimum of 3 months, for a single region

 

Just Tried a super fast SSD in at SU3500 based 3810T did nothing for the Video performance

just made file intensive (I/O, swopping ) faster.. , and the UI where files or App loading is concerned snapper...

 

According to this http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Solo+U3500+@+1.40GHz intel atom processors are better than su3500.

 

^That chart is interesting.

They also have mutliple listings for the Intel N270. Listed once as "Intel N270 1.60GHz " and another time as "Intel Core N270 1.60 GHz", different scores.

 

Posters elsewhere have said that Bing's cash back is now at 14% for J&R.
Final delivered cost equals $387. Nice!

BTW
My Bing account did not show Pending Credit for a 1410 ordered 10 days ago .
I canceled that order Saturday 8/22 because I'm waiting for the SU4100 with maybe Bluetooth, 3.5G wireless, & the 8 hour battery.

The very nice Customer Representitive said J&R normally does not normally contact Bing until the order ships. Could be.

 

I thought Phil did a test and got a 490?

 

Indeed. That 267 score is not right.

 

That chart doesn't make sense. A u2100 @1.06 got a 323, but the u3500 @ 1.40 got a 267??? No way...

 

A new contender has arrived! The Gateway EC1803h. Wow, it feels like a new laptop in this class is being announced each day

 

actually the link to the chart was in phil's review blog..i also think that the chart is incorrect.

 

It looks like just a rebrand, since Acer now owns Gateway.

 

I contacted Bing Customer Support about it, they put a 12% ($54) pending cashback in my account. 14% is higher....but its only $9, so whatever. If it doesn't ship soon (and I mean very, very soon) I'm tempted to raise hell about it. We'll see. I'll give it a few days.

Gateway = Acer, its the same notebook.

 

So I wonder when the Gateway will show up in the US. I am also curious about battery. Who the heck sells Gateway online besides the Gateway Web site (not listed there I just checked).

BTW, with the cash back up to 14% I may just buy the 1410 and live with the 6 cell battery. Heck I bet I can get 8 hours out of it anyway if my Asus 1000HE is any judge of battery life.

 

Ah I see. So really the small price premium is for the extra GB of ram and larger HDD. I'm assuming build quality is exactly the same too. Hmm..

 

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Hover over the SU3500 and look at the frequency and you'll understand the error. Unfortunately Passmark's database contains many errors.

Seems logical to me. I did not expect any improvement for video playback.

It would be possible that 4GB helps video playback. Did you test that yet?

 

Yes, it is probably using the exact same chassis, just painted a different color and a Gateway logo and manual instead of an Acer one. But it is strange this Gateway model has better specs since it was acquired by Acer.

I would think the Acer branded ones would have better specs. Just like since HP acquired Compaq, there are still Compaq branded computers but they are usually budget oriented with lower end specs.

 

In Europe the Gateway models are sold under the Packard Bell brandname and they generally have slightly better specs and higher prices.

 

Yes, I have heard the Packard Bell brand name is still alive and well in Europe, whereas it had exited the U.S market almost 10 years ago and has a bad taste in the mouths of those that remember it. My first computer upon coming to the U.S in 1998 was a Packard Bell and it was okay at best.

I am getting confused with all the model numbers and variations of this 1410/1810 model, such as it being called 1410 in the U.S and 1810 elsewhere.

I think I will wait a few months until it is widely available in the U.S which I may purchase to take on a trip to India in December and replace my Vaio TZ. I am very excited to see an ultraportable at near netbook prices!

 

Well 1410 is used for the 4400mAh battery models, 1810T (Timeline) is used for 5600mAh battery models. Other than that, it's just looking at specs.

The reason why Acer did this seems to be separating the Timeline brand with 8 hours battery life from the rest.

 

Some more links:

1810TZ in Austrian shop:
http://preisvergleich.nachrichten.a...=AA33142&key=659114c7aecb20979e3564041d27d05b

1810 HD playback video:
http://www.firstclassminis.de/2009/08/hd-video-youtube-und-wmv-auf-acer-aspire-timeline-1810-1410/

1810 unboxing video:
http://www.firstclassminis.de/2009/08/unboxing-und-hands-on-acer-aspire-timeline-1810-1410/

 

Interesting videos der_mali. Seems like they used some lighter Youtube videos than I did. Too bad they're not showing CPU usage.

PS. the first link is not working.

 

They used flashblock to suppress other stuff youtube loads.

It takes a while to load. This is the direct link:
http://www.pcandmore.at/Default.aspx?tabID=55&mdsUCID=4&crs=1&artikelID=AA33142
Btw, the shop has a fairly high ranking of 1.21

To those who doubt that those shop links are legit and think that they just try to create traffic, I have to say that the market rules in Europe are fairly strict. A Shop would risk to be sued by competitors.

 

Is the 6cell the same 4400mAH in the 1410? Or is it possibly (plzplzplzplzplzplzplzz) the 5600mAH 6cell?