Acer Aspire 1410 and 1810T Timeline (single core) 11.6" Thread

Oh, I see. I've checked lepton's pics of the PCB again. Both 1410 and AOA1x0 are made by Quanta, so I think those circuits used will be very similar. There is a datasheet available for the ZG5(1410 is called ZH7 btw) so it might be possible to reconstruct the missing parts if they are needed for 3G to work.

See page 23:
http://www.aspire1.ru/_fr/23/EmbeddedFile.pdf

Does it? My impressions I got from the reviews are the opposite.

 

Hello all,

I just got my 1410 a couple days ago. From the beginning it has made a buzzing sound from the fan that is very annoying. From what I can tell from the reviews here and on Amazon no one else has mentioned it. Based on that I am probably going to do an exchange but I figured I would post a sound clip anyway just to see if anyone else has heard it. You will probably have to set your volume to 75% as it was recorded using the 1410's internal microphone.

Thanks for the listen and feedback.

 

I'm happy to report that Win7 works just fine with 1GB of memory
You may ask why on earth did I try this? Well, I had my iMac with the original 1GB of ram, and I thought why not swap the two? Both have PC5300 DDR2, so no problems there.
Since I use my 1810 for watching movies and some light browsing, I'll leave it like this ...

 

Well, i cancelled my 1810TZ order. In the same shop they had a very nice deal (only 1/2 of the price of 1810TZ) for an Asus 1005HA with 6cell battery and i realized, that with the current price dropping of the electronics (at least in our country), the price of the 1810TZ would drop very soon, so it was not worth the extra money for it.

And i have a HTPC at home with a big screen too, so i think i will be happy with the new netbook and the extra cash. I install Win7 RC though, i don´t like XP anymore.

 

Too bad Lot's of people were holding their breath for your review.
Can you confirm if they had an actual unit in the store, though?

 

What an anti climax

I must admit I'm in the same decision process, 1810Tz vs. just an 1005HA-M for almost half the money.

 

1024x600?
Never again!
I've just received my 1810t
The higher resolution is awesome! Hardware impression so far is excellent. Software is a piece of crap! I'm uninstalling bloatware right now. Tbh, with this config it's the slowest PC I've ever used lol
This thing needs an experienced tweaker's hand

Edit:
Regarding price comparisons, you get a free Win7 update with the timelines. If you want Win7 on 1005HA you will have to shell out another 100 bucks

 

For potential buyers in the US, CircuitCity.com (online only I think) now has the Acer 1410 (1.4GHz SU3500, 2GB RAM, 250GB hard drive, etc).

Go to their site and search for "A180-11642" (black), or "A180-11641" (blue) or "A180-11643" (red). Also MS Bing has 15% cashback (~$67) for the moment for Circuit City, making the Acer $382 after cashback. Not a bad deal at all. There could be in addition a Paypal $20 off $200, but that might be expired now.

 

That's rather vague. Acer has many models, even 1410 has different CPUs. You have to be more specific. But SU3500 definitely does not suck.

 

Don't do it !! I would hold off for a week or two if you want to see other companies have things to offer. 1024x600 is simply not worth it.

 

So I've installed SP2 now. Btw, 1810t uses the same PSU as the Aspire One, so if you need a cheap replacement just use that.
Edit:
I've installed Firefox 3.5 now. Lovely! The high resolution is great
I'm sitting in the garden right now under a tree, the sun is shining and the screen is perfectly readable at three notches above minimum brightness.

 

I know, I've owned several netbooks with 1024*600 and 1366*768. Actually for surfing and reading the web I find 1024*600 not a big problem with the right plugins for Firefox. Ofcourse 11.6" would be nicer but for a throw-it-in-my-bag laptop the Asus 1005HA-M fulfills my needs.

 

How's it going everyone?

I received my 1410 back on the 4th (I think). I ordered it from J&R, after cancelling with Amazon and Costcentral (they suck).

Quick question- Does anyone know if the dimensions and layout are physically the same as the AO751?

I ask because I'd like to get a skin kit off ebay, but they don't have them for this model yet. I'm sick of the fingerprint magnet lid...

My first new laptop - ever, and it's totally cool. Runs vmware with Backtrack 4 just fine.

I do wish the internal wireless would work with backtrack, I have to use a USB stick at the moment.

I'm upgrading from a 14.1" Dell PII 333 laptop, so this one smokes it. It's also quicker than my desktop (athlon xp 2700) in SuperPI.

Any one open their's up yet? I'm curious of the CPU is socketed, or soldered...

 

@str8shot
CPU is soldered. Check Timeline Tweaks for inside pics

I love the touchpad, it's very responsive.

 

Hello Forum users. I've been reading this thread for a few weeks now and I think it provides great info about the 1810T.

I got mine about 3 weeks ago and I was very happy with the machine so far, but today I encountered a problem.

I got a LiteOn ESAU208 external DVD writer for the notebook, not only because this one was available in red, like my notebook, but also, because I read on reviews that the LiteOn will work without an external power supply and with only a normal USB cable if you are not using it to burn DVDs.

This is true. On my desktop computer the DVD writer works with both the normal & the double USB cable (which was included in the box). But the Acer 1810T does not seem to provide enough power to the USB ports (right side of the keyboard). It works fine when you use the power supply, but doesn't work with the double USB cable.

Any ideas how to fix this?

PS: It isn't a critical problem, since I installed Deamon Tools Lite to simulate a DVD drive and can mount ISO files if needed. It would just be great not to carry around the power supply for the external drive.

Yes, it is has a pretty similar footprint compared to the 751. I got a 12.1'' sleeve from Belkin, which is works, but the notebook has a little space to move around in the sleeve.
I fabricated a little "Styrofoam U", which adds additional padding and now it fits tight. Not sure if "normal" 10.2'' work for the 1810T

 

No idea. I used the external Acer dvdrw and had no problems. I'll check home what the power needs are, maybe there's a difference in the specs.

btw I noticed lot's of people are fond on recovery disks, though it is not really needed You can save/copy/remove (in that order ) that restore-partition with any free partitiontool (eg. easeus). Also my WHS backed it up too anyway (tip). No stress when the kids played with the cd's and dvd's becoming unreadable.

 

The power supply of the ESAU208 provides 5V & 2A
The device needs 5V & 1.8A (which is listed on the label on the back)

 

I know you are fully aware of these thing, as you mentioned you owned Acer 751 before. It's more a "friends don't let friends do 1024x600" response

 

To those who have the 1810TZ, what country are you in and where did you buy it?

Looking from a UK perspective.

 

Hey guys, I've been following this thread for a long time, and there's a ton of great info here. I finally splurged, and bought this little thing due to a great deal - just wanted to inform you all, it might help tip the scales for people thinking about it:

CircuitCity.com has the Apsire 1410 (all colors) in stock $449.99 with FREE shipping!

PLUS 15% Bing Cashback!!
PLUS $20 Cashback if you pay with PayPal!!!

$449.99 - $67.50 - $20.00 = $362.49!!!!



You can search either site by using "A180-116*" and you will get all 11.6" Aspire models (AS1410 and AO751h).

I instantly received a pending credit of ~$67 in my bing account.
The paypal deal ended yesterday, but it has been reported by reps at CC that the deal was extended until 9/18. If you're worried about the extra 20, call to confirm.

I just figure $362 for this shipped was a fantastic deal, and jumped!

 

After trying out higher resolution screens, i find 1024x600 okay...
yes you have to scroll bit.. but with multi touch touch pad.. it is a breeze..

 

Ok then I'll wait

no sign of 1810tz yet in Netherlands.

 

So, I've configured SmartFan, now.
I've found all speeds and I will just upload the options.ini as zip-file so that you can try it.
SmartFan must be started as Admin

[Modes]
Auto=0x00
Stop=0x1F
Extremely_Slow=0xAD
Very_Slow=0x66
Slow=0x06
Medium=0x20
High=0x07
Very_High=0x19
Supreme=0x98

This is for 1410/1810t(z) BIOS version 3113, Vista 32, Win7 32, XP
Please report back if it works for you.
You can download SmartFan here:
SmartFan v1.16
Just replace options.ini with the file from the attached archive

Edit:
Warning!
The settings only work when on battery in Vista. In Win7 you should set the cooling profile to passive(see Timeline Tweaks). I don't know how to set this in Vista, yet.

 

I think whether or not it sucks depends on what you expect out of it. Mine right out of the box has keys not working, so it has to go back, but I'm thinking of just returning it altogether instead of exchanging it. I really like the fact that it is so compact, but I find it to be painfully slow.

It doesn't help that mine had trouble out of the box, and other people have had noisy fans and audio problems (the one I got did not have either of these issues, though). It seems to be a bit hit or miss to get one that doesn't have some sort of issue. I believe I'm going to wait to see what else comes out of the gate.

 

Wifi reception is extremely good
I've got two waveguide antennas on the roof that are connected via passive splitter to a second Wifi AP. One Antenna points to my workshop and has to pass several thick walls of concrete.
When I use my Netbook or 15.4" I have to place them on a defined place on my desk. My 1810t works everywhere. Really nice.
The device doesn't get hot at all, I've configured SmartFan to start at lowest possible speed when reaching 47degrees. It's permanently off when doing none processor intensive stuff.
I recommend this device to every netbook user. It represents what a netbook should have been. Efficient, light and powerful enough if you want it to be. Battery life is impressive. I might do a test one day.

 

Thanks. I think I see it. Is it the really little card in the corner with the weird looking C E and FCC type marking on the label.

 

That's exactly it

 

Painfully slow? Have you removed the bloatware and McAfee? Mine was fast as could be. I had a 160GB WD though.

 

Exactly
I don't see a difference between my core 2 duo and the 1810t in responsiveness right now. Both run Vista.

 

I disabled all services and it was better, however I am now thinking that this probably was not a good choice for me. While the keys not working may signal a problem, I don't think this will do what I would like for it to do, which is play the occasional casual game in addition to surfing, compiling minor things and simple encryption tasks.

I had to change file attributes and do some network tasks, and it took forever. That is with it on a LAN, not anything to do with wireless. I guess I need to face the facts that while this is a lovely and compact device, it does not seem powerful enough. I'm not looking to run a database on it, but I will need the occasional decrypt and security services and it's not quite up to it.

KOTOR2 seemed to run on it, though, at 800x600 and kind of slow. I didn't try my hex edited exe that allows it to run in 16:9 or 16:10 resolutions, but I suspect that they will be unplayable.

It looks great, and I love the ruby red, it's just not able to do things any better than my ancient sager M400A. It's lighter, but if it can't do at least the same things as an old laptop, it doesn't do me much good. I'm not a developer per se, or an administrator, but as it stands right now, I am having issues doing things that I should be able to do. This may be due to the hardware problem, or it may just be that this isn't enough.

I'm now looking at the HP dv2 and dv2z. I am beginning to think that I am probably a user that can values performance along with portability over battery life. I'd love to have what I need lasting 5 hours on battery, but it doesn't seem as though that is possible without it weighing a ton.

EDIT: I slipped in 2x2GB DDR2-800 sticks from Crucial, and it wasn't much better. This particular unit may have more issues than just the keyboard, so keep that in mind. I do know that my first impression is that as it stands now, even de-crapified, it takes forever to do CPU intensive tasks.

 

Most sources have praised the speed of 1410 compared to other netbooks, so I was mainly wondering whether he might have got it mixed up with 751. I should have simply pointed that out instead.

I think mine is pretty fast. Web surfing, VPN, remote desktop and watching DVDs. I was watching the HD Bourne Ultimatum clip from an TrueCrypt drive, and there was no problem with that.

 

The DV2 performs less than SU3500 in most situations. Here are some benchmarks: http://techreport.com/articles.x/17435/6

DV2z may be an option, but you'd be better of with a SU9400 or something like that. Then again, with your needs why not go for full power CPUs.

Can you run Passmark Performance Test? I'm wondering if your 1410 is running full speed.

 

Bear in mind that mine already has some hardware issues, so that may be coloring my perspective. I did switch performance modes, and try it with both battery power and AC. It would be foolish to try it on battery power instead of full-bore on AC, which is how I do all of the things that I normally need to do with a computer.

I can no longer test it because I had to box it up to send it back to J&R because the keyboard didn't register certain keys out of the box = Esc, Windows key, numbers 9,7 and 5. I'd take it out of the box to ship it back and use an external keyboard if you had a breaking news item that made it 200% faster, but at this point, I'm just looking at the brown box sadly.

If you have any further recommendations for an ultraportable that won't put me in the poorhouse, weighs around 4lbs and has decent performance, I'm all ears. dV2z looked like it might be the one, but I'm looking for more suggestions.

 

Not sure if you need top power, but samsung n510 is promising to be an excellent road machine with adequate power, good 6+ hours battery life, and top quality as did the previous nc10.

 

Best would be to wait for now. In the coming weeks until 22nd of october there will be many more options with cheap ULV Dual Core CPUs, like HP DM1, Dell 11z, Acer 1410tz, MSI U200 and Samsung X420.

 

You are joking, right?

Edit:
Btw, latest Win7 graphics drivers work in Vista, too.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5282491&postcount=33
I hadn't even have the graphics chip's power saving features enabled. I've enabled them now and Vista reports 6,5h at 59% while writing this. Seems a bit too much. I will have to do a test later.

 

I'm having problems with CPU intensive tasks with a 3500 core solo. An Atom, which is not nearly as powerful, certainly isn't the answer. An Atom is less than what I have and I'm complaining about it, it won't help . Thanks though.

 

ASUS UL20 should be out soon too. If you want more power you can configure it with the SU7300.

 

Here is my dream: A consumer notebook/netbook size that I can use to do encrypt/decrypt services, a small bit of development, and filesystem/backup management (direct on the laptop - not remote). It might also run something like KoToR, Sacred, and Titan Quest:Immortal Throne. If I really had to ask, it would run NWN2 and the development kit so I could finish some things I'm doing for projects on the go instead of just at my desktop.

 

It's just an alternative road machine - true its not in the same class as ulv machines but thinking about what we'll use these for, its an option.

I think many of us will still probably have our higher spec desktop pcs for intensive use and or gaming.

I'm in the same boat as many here - considering this along with others, including the samsung, and thinking about what I need a road machine for.

I had an nc10 before and it was perfect as a road machine. In fact it became pretty much my main & home machine. unfortunately its small screen made it unpractical for continued use.

12 inc screens are too big, and I believe 11.6 are the sweet spot.

Phil is right its best to wait and see what happens from next 2 weeks to end of oct for win 7 release.

 

The only problem is that Samsung N510 will be worse than Acer 1410, so you are simply waiting to pay more for less, which does not make sense. (Atom 280, and only 1GB RAM)

 

Yeah, I don't like hearing we should wait some more , but I agree. Thanks for your input, though hanybanoub, if I was looking for strictly mobile gaming, that would be fine. It just sucks that it has such slow processor.

In fact, the one I was looking at has discrete graphics, which I probably need. I don't think I can do the tasks that I need to do, though, with even a single core processor, now that I have actually tried it. I'm surprised it didn't burn a hole through the 1410 and make the cpu fall out of the housing.

 

Fair enough guys I appreciate many of you will want to have more power from your ultraportable.

From what I remmber using an atom on the nc10, it was perfectly fine for web browsing, word/excel processing, acrobat files reading/review, and film and music - many at the same time.

I didn't need to stress or use it any more so I can understand if many here have many more programs open at same time, or have CPU hungry programs running (photo shop or similar).

Battery life is key for me when I evaluate these machines. I abs loved the NC10 long battery life. If it only had a slightly larger screen I would have kept it.

 

If battery life is your priority, that's fair enough assessment.

 

Agreed, I may be looking in the wrong segment, too, though I'm not buying a new one if my old Sager can still do the job.

That's the issue: doing the job, for many of us. For many of us, it has to do the job and provide some added features. If it can't, no matter how new, thin, light and energy efficient it is, it goes back. In my case, I had broken keys AND it was slow.

 

Did some Half-Life 2 gaming
Works nicely. I'll do a benchmark later.

All in all, this little device performs better than expected I would give 9 out of 10 stars. The one missing star is the fan. I'm very picky about noise and the fan has got too much low frequency humming. I think a proper decoupling from the chassis is missing. This is on top of my modding agenda

 

Bummer V1810T
My Acer dvdrw needs 5V/2.0A and is working. Hope it's not your 1810t.

 

I knew there was a brand I forgot and you got it.

Asus UL20 is a serious contender for me. Almost the same weight as 1810 but 13" screen. I'm afraid it will be a lot more expensive than 1810TZ.

 

The dv2z looks like it is pretty decent for my needs, even though the battery life is low. I've been searching the threads on Notebookreview looking for good info on it. It costs more, and has far lower battery life, but I can't find anything better within my budget. I like the discrete graphics, and prefer that it is like the 1410 - no integrated, huge dvd-rom drive. That's what usb ports are for

 

The UL20 will have a 12.1" screen with 1366x768 resolution. I've got my eye on that one too, but I'm pretty sure your right about the price.