Acer Aspire 1410 and 1810T Timeline (single core) 11.6" Thread

Have had my tz for 8hours now and this is very nice laptop compared to any one witch I have used before. This is red one and it doesnt help with fingerprints Now I must wait day or two to get some kind of wlan adsl, not so nice to move wired with this very litle portaple

 

Congratulations, marse

 

Hi marse,
Enjoy it! So, what is your opnion about the fingertips? I'm doubting with the black or red model, I suposed with the black one could be worse.

 

Here is some photobucket pics about fingerprints, I think that you have to try to see them, as u see in pictures, u cant see them in every watching angle. Maybe its more easy to see them in day time, but at this time its not easy at all to see fingertips from laptop, atleast here in dark Finland Hope at this comment helps you

 

Is it just the angle and flash-use, or did they use a different red on lid and palm-rest? (i love the dark tone on your first pic, the colour of the third pic not so much though...)

 

Yes, there is different kind of red on palm-rest, its kind of matte, hard to get good picture from it.
Image from palm-rest
OK, thats the same red, but its more painted as "wooden" red... Dunno the real English word for that

 

Hehe, don't know the word either, but know what you mean anyway
Sorry to bother you again, but i have another question
Did you get such a nice case like some far eastern guys did? (Post 93 at http://www.benyouhui.com/viewthread.php?tid=992658&extra=&page=10)

 

Nope, didnt get any case with laptop, but I bough targus xs case for notebook, theres nicely room for mouse and charger and theres plenty of space for a4 papers in notebook section thanks to thin notebook

 

Have you had a chance to compare the 2 batteries? I am very interested in getting a bit more juice out of my 1410 although I may just wait for the 1810TZ now.

 

Due to the texture of the palm rest, it looks a little different on the red 1810T (as the palm rest is not shiny); I posted a picture of mine a few pages back
http://img248.imageshack.us/i/belkin12sleevefor1810t.jpg/
That was made in daylight and without a flash.

Hope that helps

 

Great shots, thanks a lot!
I'll probably go for the Ruby Red one too - if the 1810tz gets finally released in Austria. (22nd of October? Who knows!)

 

I asked but I don't think it has been answered yet. Does the 1810tz come with bluetooth built in?

 

1810Tz owners, how is the max battery life sofar?

 

I'm guessing about 6.5-7 hours of real world usage in windows 7. It could need a few more recharge cycles to get the full time. Windows 7 appears to use more power than vista. Will do some more testing.

 

I'm very sad that Windows7 uses more power

 

My tz does not have bluetooth, but im not using bt so mutch that it really does not matter. Batterylife... I think that it is allmost same as 1 core, 40% left in my laptop and vista says 3h 45min left. I have used only web browser and installed some programs when not charging laptop. I dont know how long I have had it without charging now, but more than 4 hours so it can go that 8hours without 2 heavy use

 

Don't worry. It will be solved by the time Windows 7 is released.

 

Looks like I was premature regarding the battery usage. Guess battery bar was still adjusting. It's been 3 hours of continuous usage along with 20min of 720p playback and I'm now showing 4:23 left. So it's actually very close to 8 hours with this 5600mah battery. Love it!

 

OH yeah that also reminds me. How much heavier is the 5600 mah battery? Is it even noticeably heavier than the 4400 mah battery?

 

Can you weigh the 4400mAh?

The 5600mAh weighs 323 grams. My guestimate is the 440mAh will be 270 grams.

 

My scale shows the 4400mAh battery at 10.8 oz or 303.34 grams. This assumes that my scale is accurate. So, it appears that there is VERY little difference.

BTW, the same digital scale shows the total 1410 weight with the battery at 3 lbs 3 oz. This equates to 1,445.83 grams. My scale says it is accurate to 0.5 oz (this is WITH the NuShield on, that must weigh 1/2 oz max).

 

I don't have a scale to measure the batteries. However holding the 2 batteries in each hand there's a noticeable weight difference.

 

How many grams is the 1410 w/o battery according to your scale?

 

Uhm I can buy a 3810T-944G32N (su9400) for 600 euro. I don't really care about 13,3 or 11,6 inch. Should I wait for the 1810tz? I'm a bit suspicious, is the 3810t going to be updated too, like the 1810t?

 

It's a great deal. 100 euro below normal prices.

1810TZ will be cheaper but you need to wait, probably 5 weeks at least.

According to the numbers it's 30 grams. Even if it was 50 grams, it would be very hard to notice when the battery is in the laptop.

 

If the numbers are correct it should be 1,142.49 grams (1,445.83 - 303.34). Does that match your basic numbers? I can turn the 1410 off and move my desk around to weigh it again without the battery if that is helpful.

 

Notebookjournal measured 1127 grams.

I measured 1118 grams.

 

What battery-time is reachable when I let the 1810T powered on, recording via microphone, but display powered off all the time? (wLan off, too!)

are 12 hours reachable?

So how many watt is used only for the Display min. and max. ?

sorry for bad english, i'm german...

 

Just got mine from UPS! I'm excited.

What tweaks should I do first? I'm checking out the thread right now.

 

Remove McAfee. And remove a lot of other bloatware.

 

What stuff is considered bloatware? I removed all the crappy games. Are the Acer things bloatware?


Acer ScreenSaver etc?
Carbonite Online Backup Setup
eSobi v2
GridVista
MyWinLocker
Orion

Is that it?

 

I did not even turn the 1410 on before (i) removing the hard drive and replacing it with an ssd with a clean install of Win7 (RC build 7100) and (ii) adding 2x2 megs of 2gb 800Mhz ram.

 

Can you give us a review of your Nushield? Does it work as well as advertised? How about indoors? Does it decrease screen brightness?

 

I'm returning my 1410. I just can't get the freezes to stop. Hopefully the one I get in exchange is better. :/

 

Well the one problem I initially had with the NuShield is that is was cut JUST a tad too big. I ended up having to take the scissors to the screen and now it is not perfect. They definitely need to trim about 1-2mm off the edges. Perhaps each 1410 is just slightly different so your results may vary.

The NuShield doesn't noticeably decrease the brightness and colors seem about the same with it on. Glare is definitely lessened although it is not totally NON glare like an Asus 1000HE screen. I have only tried it one outside since I put the shield on but once I turned up the brightness a bit I could read the screen in almost direct sunlight. When the screen was turned almost all the way down (I usually keep the screen on about 30% or less when on battery) I had a hard time seeing the display.

NuShield definitely helps outside and I am happy to have it on. If you do decide to get one I suggest getting TWO since you may have some problems with sizing. I got 2 but I haven't had the guts to put it on the 2nd one yet. This time I may take an razor blade and a ruler to the screen rather than trying to use scissors. I guess I just got too eager.

Another thing to know is that it is tough to get the screen on without a few minor bubbles. Pulling the screen up generally fixes this but do notes that the 1410 screen guard has adhesive on the back. This is because of the way the 1410 screen is designed. SO you may have to pull it up a few times to get the bubbles out. Because of this I recommend keeping the pink side on until you get ALL the bubbles out and you are 100% satisfied.

If you do lift up or cut the sides it may affect the adhesive which is one reason I am going to try again with the 2nd shield. Where I cut the edges I have an area that doesn't quite stick and you can just see the outline. With the screen on it it hard to see these edges but when windows is booting or if you have a solid background you will likely see the cut edges.

Would I recommend this screen? Yes? Does it help outside? Yes? Does it noticeably decrease brightness and dull colors? No. Just be careful with sizing.

 

The Asus UL30a can be found for $599 with the u3500 cpu here in the US.
I see the UL20a with the u3500 selling for $549 and the Celeron probably $499.
I don't see how Asus can price the UL20a anymore than $100 vs the 1410 with the exact components.
Seeing how manuf. been pricing the 11.6" cheaper than their 13" counterpart, thats what I'm guessing.

 

That's nice pricing I must say...
Here in Sweden the Asus UL30A with the Intel Core 2 Duo SU7300 processor goes for 7300 SEK (730€ while the 1810TZ goes for 6000 (600€ so it's quite the difference. As well as the fact that the UL30A isn't even available here yet while the 1810TZ is.

 

Yep, that can be removed.
Read this site for additional tips:
http://www.vistatuneup.com/index.php

I doubt, that 12 hours are reachable. The battery is 62Wh. You have to leave some juice in it to not damage it so lets say around 10% that's about 56Wh left. This equals to around 4.7W you can take average. The power you save by switching off the screen will be used by the constant HDD and processor access when streaming.

I've yet to understand what's happening behind the scenes in Vista to save battery life. So far I've managed to remove ePower management and yet get the same power consumption by manually tweaking. There are still weird things going on sometimes. Sometimes when it comes out of standby, power consumption is higher and then I have to switch to an other power scheme and back to see it drop again.

 

Seems like US will get their 1810T and 1810TZ.
http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm...ortParameter=brand_name&startnum=1&letter=ALL

 

Can't understand the release tactics of those corporations fully. Hungary has the 1810tz already, Austria (+ most other countries) not. Why the differences??

@ the hungarian collegues: how much did you pay for yours again??

 

There is an option in McAfee tools to clean up disk, which is very thorough. I should suggest to remove all the bloatware first, patch the system with the latest updates, and install your own software to your needs. Then clean up with McAfee, run a scan and remove McAfee. This will help calibrating your battery too. On a side note, Vista sp2 demands you to plugin power to continue, just plug it in and out to skip that pop-up. Make sure to drain and charge fully your battery at least 3 times to enjoy over 8 hours browsing/e-mailing/mah-jonging and chatting.

 

I've noticed it again, for the third time.
Including a previous posting within this nbr thread.

S tandard memory capacity 2048MB
Maximum support memory 8192MB
Can 8GB be installed and used on the 1810TZ?
Link to Asian vendor specs.
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Many thanks for your list of bloatware.. Acer ScreenSaver, Carbonite Online Backup Setup, eSobi v2, GridVista MyWinLocker, Orion.
Almost impossible for an Acer beginner to know.

Should we become pro-active by accumulating a list of companies that use this marketing strategy, like McAfee and Symantec?
And then boycott.

 

@der_mali

Hello, thx for your answer, ok, i understand..
Will it be more powersaving, when i record the mp3's from microphone to a SD-Card instead to the HD?

I think, i will install windows 7 professional on the 1810T and will try out your timeline tweak-Thread
actually in the web are some discussions about the bad battery-life-time using windows 7... i will try out which drivers solve this problem...

 

That retailer lists ddr3 1066, so it's copied from somewhere into the 1810tz description
Someone mentioned that a tool reported 8GB support on 1410(was it skyhawk21?) But that might just be a generic info from a built in table that the program uses when detecting gm45/gs45 chipset. If I had a 4GB module lying around I would test it, but 2GB is the maximum size I have.

 

Unfortunately 4GB SODIMM is hugely expensive Here it's like $400++ (for a set of two), eeek

 

Current price is (in stock): 144,000.00 HUF = 533.611 EUR.

 

Yes 8GB can be installed and used in the 1810TZ but as AcerTimelineHunter pointed out the price of the memory could easily match or surpass the price of the notebook. The prices are similar here in Canada at $314.99 (G.Skill) http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=43894&vpn=F2-6400CL6D-8GBSQ&manufacture=Others - $479.99 (Corsair) http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=37073&vpn=VS8GSDSKIT800D2&manufacture=Corsair as well while the price for 8GB of DDR3-1066 memory is $949.99 (Corsair again) http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=36699&vpn=CM3X8GSDKIT1066&manufacture=Corsair, more than twice the cost of the notebook.

For the time being, doing such an upgrade is cost prohibitive although I plan to go through with it once I get my own 1810TZ (or the Travelmate 8171 when it comes out (the 8371, 8471, and 8571 are already available in certain countries) and yes I am that insane )

 

http://www.liliputing.com/2009/09/atheros-launches-802-11nbluetooth-combo-mini-card.html

This might be a nice solution to add bluetooth to the 1410 if it gets released and has proper Win7 drivers.