Acer Aspire 1410 and 1810T Timeline (single core) 11.6" Thread

Thanks. It was mentioned before.

The 1810TZ thread is here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=424213

 

Thanks Phil,

I didn't realize that.

 

This thread should be changed to be for the 1410 only. The 1810 and the 1810 tablets now have their own threads.

 

Well the 1410 and 1810 are exactly the same laptop other than the battery size. I don't see the point of creating yet another thread.

 

Err.. thread separation anxiety issues.

Me too.. I'm worried that new 1820PT tablet and the 1810TZ forums
won't have enough folks to support bothering to visit.

 

This may no longer be correct. Yes, all current 1810T's released outside of the US have the same SU3500 processor as the 1410. However, if you look at the 1810 Timeline page at Acer US (which lists both 1810T and 1810TZ models), The only processor choices are SU4100 and SU7300. They don't give specs specific to model # yet (there's no "configuration" tab yet), but this must mean that the 1810T when released in the US will have the SU4100 processor, while the 1810TZ will sport an SU7300.

I would suggest this thread keep the same name it has now with it's "single core" denotation, and change the new 1810TZ thread to 1810 Timeline and keep the "dual core" spec.

 

Why is it so important to split single core and dual core?
The hardware is identical except CPU. All MODs and tweaks work regardless of single or dual core.

I'd even keep the swivel hinge models in here because they are supposedly identical except some modifications to the case and supposedly different battery.

 

Obviously this would be fine for those of us who have followed this thread from the beginning. However, it may be a little overwhelming for newcomers simply looking for info on their specific configuration to be confronted with a nearly 3,000 post thread. I believe that's pretty much why an 1810TZ thread has already been created. This thread is full of passmark scores and other comparisons most of which are related to the SU3500 configuration. So, if we're going to have a seperate thread, it would make sense to make it for the dual core configurations. This has already been done with the 1810TZ (dual core) thread, I'm merely suggesting that since the 1810T will apparently now have an SU4100, it should probably be included in that "dual core" thread. I know what you mean about "why seperate single core vs. dual core", but I'm really only basing this suggestion on what's already been done here.

As for the tablet models I can definitely forsee a whole lot of touchscreen related discussions bloating this thread even further. I mean, the addition of a touchscreen is definitely more than just a "modification to the case". I'm guessing there will be plenty of touchscreen configuration and/or calibration type discussions taking place, but I could be wrong as I have no experience with them.

Anyway, I'm cool with whatever is decided. I'm just thinking this may be the quickest way for newbies or casual visitors to find info specific to their particular configuration.

 

@Metallion

Personally I think that the CPU is a minor distinction and not suited to differentiate models.

Just an example:
Someone gets an US 1810t with dual core and complains about a loud fan. You will answer, check the single core thread for a solution. I can think of many more problems caused by this split.

Doesn't make sense IMO.

 

Mate Im with you, I originally started this thread to discuss the 1810T, its already been hijacked once, and now renamed again... whats going to happen next as the Dual core in the EU seems to be called the TZ, but the base hardware is the same... fan keyboard and the bios....so simply by the NAME of the product should be enough "difference" ...

1x10T = Single
1x10TZ = Dual ... except for in the US it would seem

about 2000 posts back I mentioned that Just because the TZ was launched in CN with Dual core and Vista, that did not mean that that would come to pass in the ROW.... oops..

all that acer has done is using the 22nd of this month, to allow it to oner its licence agreement to M$, thus only sticking the SLIC 2.1 into the new devices... and is again confusing the Market

the lower grade dual CPU seems to being replaced with the high spec ... in Asia to bring it up to the rest of the world. In the states the 1410T is being replaced with the 1810T and in EU 1810T is being replaced with the 1810TZ.

So that would mean that due to the international nature of this community that the only reliable way to differentiate is

1410T & 1810T Vista
1410T & 1810T & 1810Tz Win 7

This is also compounded by the fact that in the EU & Asia the 1810T was on sale before the free Win 7 Upgrade, so we can not automatically assume all will make the transition.


If we take the rest of the board into account most Brands offer different CPU's for the same model (LINE), and no where have I seen it being split based on CPU, Sony however is different they simply give each Device Configuration a Different Model number, with Acer its always the 2nd grouping example 1810TZ- 412G25N which makes the difference..






So I hope we dont end up with

Acer Aspire 1410 and 1810T Timeline (single core) 11.6" Thread and SLIC 2.0

and

Acer Aspire 1410 and 1810T Timeline (single core) 11.6" Thread and SLIC 2.1


LoL ;0

 

Are you really sure there's a Dual Core model and it's not all a myth?

 

For which model (Line) 1410 or 1810 and in which part of the world... a German model has already been tested and reviewed

see here for general information http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=424213 and here is where the review is mentioned http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5390896&postcount=16

 

You concern is justified. Both of those threads (TZ and PT) have already rolled off the main page. Someone needs to bump them if they are going to stay alive. I get that this thread is SUPER long but it is where all of the best info is stored.

 

Upon further inspection on the US site it states the following models will be available

"These Aspire® 1810 models are available in select retail outlets: 1810T-8638, 1810T-8679, 1810TZ-4013, 1810TZ-4174."

these are based on..

"Intel® Core™2 Duo Processor SU7300 (3MB L2 cache, 1.30 GHz, 800MHz FSB)
or
Intel® Pentium® Processor SU4100 (2MB L2 cache, 1.30GHz, 800MHz FSB)"

Which means for the US its a T & TZ but both with Dual Core... but hughly different experiences Pentium v Core2Duo

Strange that this new Line "Tz" is not on the EU sites yet (Product Info), but does come through as a separate "device" in the download section...

The big difference in the Pentium v C2D will again cause lots of confusion...

So the point made earlier about the benchmarks etc being confusing due to C2S and C2D just got more complex as we now have the good old pentium to compete with

Here's the link on the intel webpage http://ark.intel.com/Compare.aspx?ids=37133,43568,42791, for a comparison including the SU3500 (Single Core)... so no luck if you want to use XP mode on a SU1400 and for none "Multi Core aware apps" the SU3500 should beat the SU7300, where by the single threaded YouTube (Flash) should run better in streaming mode on the SU7300 and SU1400, but only on Vista & Win 7 (1 core deals with I/O the other with presentation , controlled by the OS)

 

^^^ There is no huge difference between the Pentium dual core and Core 2 Duo. The Main thing is the Pentium has a little less L2 cache and no VT, otherwise they perform almost exactly the same.

 

Excuse me while I bang my head on a desk some.

I was teasing you since you were so adamant there wasn't a dual core model before.

 

No actually I was adamant that the Dual Core TZ with VISTA would not automatically be made available in the ROW just because it was on offer in CN, and that outside of China, that there was no evidence that it was planned..... lets see what happened ?

I remember now , I was shot down by all the people pointing to offers and listing's... all available within days ... which I pointed out did not mean anything, and was no real proof.. and the 'nah' sayers shot me down... well now 7+ weeks later....?

 

Excuse me but the Architecture is completely different..

The story that Intel sold us at the time was that the C2D was able to perform at between 1.5 and 2 times the "Perceived Speed" of a simple Pentium.. So we all upgraded..

Now you are suggesting that, thats all wrong, can you supply some benchmarks ?

 

You made no such claims, but I won't stand in the way of your attempts to re-write history.

 

This is a new Pentium, it is based on the Core 2 Duo architecture.

 

The previous few posts have little value for most of us. IMHO
Probably would be better as Personal Messages to each other.

 

just tried this one but it was very hard to close it so i skipped. now i'm using this from dx but still looking for something with better protection.

 

I'll be ordering a Targus 10.2" Slipcase tomorrow. Heard it fits on a post way back and it's on sale now for $12.

 

just ordered the 1410 this weekend for $409 from ewiz. Can't wait for it to get here

 

Anyone have trouble adjusting the display brightness in Vista using the keyboard?

Mine seems to have stopped working in Vista, but works fine with Ubuntu.

 

Why should they be of less or more value to some of the other things in this thread... its a free internet...

 

I think someone said it fit, and then someone else said it was too tight. Let us know which one is correct

Its a free internet, yet NotebookReview.com is not "the internet". It's more or less a friendly dictatorship, just like other forums, meaning we all submit to what the mods have to say or we can leave.

What that person was trying to suggest is that personal banter that isn't helpful to everyone else is just as easily dealt with in a PM. This is an informational thread that is huge, and it's hard enough to find the useful info without a bunch of non-relevant posts to complicate things.

 

Hi, is this laptop sufficient enough play 1080p to a 42inch tv stock or overclock? Or do I have to wait for the dual core versions? Thank You.

 

For people who wants to buy 1410, Amazon is selling it for $399.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-A...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1255410021&sr=8-1

 

Yes. It plays 1080p.

 

I can't find 1810T anywhere in europe other than the german site(with german keypad).It simply doesn't exist....All Canadian sellers (bye.com,memory express etc)list the 1410 as having dvd drive!!!!!!???????????

 

As long as you don't return an item (or any item) for any reason, you should be ok.

J&R has probably has the most rudest return/exchange department I have ever encountered.

 

I second that. I returned the 1410 because I want the TZ and it took almost a month for them to credit my credit card. Although, we have to remember that we're dealing with New Yorkers.

 

I am a New Yorker and I am never rude unless provoked.

No, J&R just have really sucky (condescending) customer service.

 

Confused? I have the 1810T since August. Here a list of resellers in The Netherlands. http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/244348/acer-aspire-timeline-1810t-352g16n.html
We Dutch use the international keyboard

 

Acer among others (ALL) have announced that due to that fact that we have a computer fair here in Dubai, which starts on the 18th of this month that they will be allowed by M$ to start the sale of all their win7 devices as of the 18th and don't have to wait until the 22nd to sell their pre configured, we seem to be the first in the world to have access to their full spectrum of new products...


So here is me living in Dubai and going to GITEX as of the 18th...

What do you want to see and what do you want to have reviewed.. ?

 

Everything.

 

It will play, but after a ton of tweaking, I can't get perfect 1080p.

It's either good quality with lagging, or medium quality and smooth.

720p plays wonderfully.

 

So what's the deal with HDMI out? Does it play better than on the native display or the same?

 

I posted this is "tweaks 2" thread but I figured I do it here as well.

For those of you looking for a case rather than a sleeve, here's one I got. It fits perfectly (zipper scratch safe), and has additional pocket for both AC adapter and car charger, and some other goodies...

11.1" Netbook Fitted CaseCrown Double Memory Foam Thin Netbook Case Bag With Front Pocket(Black) at Amazon.

IMG-1 | IMG-2 | IMG-3 | IMG-4 | IMG-5

Cheers!

 

What OS are you using?

Win7 + Shark007 Codecs (including 64bit codec) will make every. single. file. play perfectly. I've tested it on very high bitrate 1080p MKV's and it plays fiiine. Never above 65% CPU usage.

 

Same setup. I've gone through every guide there is. Same result: perfect image quality but laggy (software based rendering/high CPU), or smooth playback but blocky in high bitrate scenes(gpu based/low CPU)

 

1810tz with the SU4100 won't cost more than the current SU3500 model.

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15961/1/

 

I believe that is incorrect. The starting price I saw was $549.99.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/acers-11-6-inch-timeline-1810t-gets-ceremonious-christening-oc/

 

Photos, data and a product tour have appeared at ToshibaDirect for their
new 11.6" Satellite T110. A competitor for the Acer 1810.

For now, its only got the slow Intel 723 cpu and lists for $449 US.
SU4100 and SU7300 options will likely appear soon.

 

So many choices. My head is spinning. I might just keep the 1410! I'm happy with it.

 

Yes...GREAT timely link!!

Click on and read thru the Acer USA press release.
It singles out the new model AS1810T-8679 as having
the SU7300 cpu, 4GB, 320 hd, 5600 mAh battery, Bluetooth & Win7 64-bit
Listing for $599.99

The "prices start at $549" model could be
the SU4100 cpu, 2GB & 250 hd.

 

Time to edit the thread title again. The US 1810T model is a dual core SU7300.

 

Interesting... Acer's national Press Release could be wrong because a couple days ago the following was added to their USA website.

"These Aspire® 1810 models are available in select retail outlets: 1810T-8638, 1810T-8679, 1810TZ-4013, 1810TZ-4174." Here is a link.

So if the USA 1810T had an SU7300,
what would the USA 1810TZ have, an Intel SU9400?
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Maybe the forums could be split based on the original OS.
So we would have 1410/1810 Vista, and 1410/1810/1820 Sys7

(err... a 1410 is just available here in Taiwan
with the new and suprisingly fast SU2300 DualCore)
Confused yet?

 

Well the 1810T and 3810T in the press release are SU7300 based, and the 4810TZ and 5810TZ in the press release are SU4100 based.

So, it looks like the T is a higher end model than the TZ.