Acer Aspire 5740G Owners Lounge

oh, i dont really care about the pcbeep thing, i kinda like it, since the power cord is sorta flimsy, and sometimes falls out, it reminds me that it falls out. I dont have a professor, or baby that it could bother, nor do i have a girlfriend who is a light sleeper.... i could sit the notebook on her head and unplug it 10 times while she was asleep and she wouldnt wake up... so.. lol :laugh:

oh, and are the stock drivers, 2.29? i never updated any of my drivers when i got the notebook other than the bios, and ATI........ i really cant remember if i have dolby home theatre........ i know i have 4 tabs (when hdmi connected) in the realtek control panel.

 

The newest Realtek driver is version 2.48. The Realtek 2.29 drivers is the last driver to have the PC Beep removal option.

 

Hi,

Do you have any hint how can i install my old printer (HP 845C) onto windows 7 64 bit home premium -by Acer 5740g.

There is no VM supported by microsoft - I need to get WIN 7 ultimate/prof, however i would like to use the current - home - op. system.
Last hp driver made for xp 32 bit.

 

You disabled your private messaging, so I can't contact you. Private message me for a solution.

 

He didn't. One needs at leat six (I think it is six) posts before PMs are enabled- spam protection.

 

What do you guys think is the likelyhood that Acer will ever enable the switchable graphics option on this laptop?

 

Slim to none

 

Too bad. I wouldn't mind having that extra battery savings...

On another note: "True 5.1 Channel Surround Sound Output" was a "feature" in the spec sheet at newegg when I bought my laptop and although I see three connectors in the usual 5.1 format (green, pink, black) there is no way to switch the input ones to output like on a desktop. Did newegg lie about the 5.1 output?

 

This laptop has a 2 channel audio codec (Realtek ALC272) so whatever you switch all you get is stereo. The only way to get surround sound is via HDMI because the sound goes through ATI card and another Realtek codec- this time 7.1 system.

 

That's the same thing I was reading. I am kind of mad about it, but I have an HDMI receiver that I use most of the time. On those rare occasions, it would be nice to pass 5.1 through coaxial.

 

no idea..but it l b good if they do so

 

Mine seems to have the 5.1 output as an option in the realtek digital properties...so I guess newegg didn't lie ...lol

 

anyone on this forum on WHAT.CD, wanna give me a invite?

 

Hi, my e-mail address is [email protected]

Many thanks

 

I'm afraid it's the attribute of the digital output connection not the codec- if the codec was 5.1 it would work.
I'm also pretty sure that I saw someone actually test this on another forum and it did work as stereo only but if you have a chance to test it please do- at least we could clear this one up.

 

140 in Game? Are you measuring in Fahrenheit? I get up to 80C with my Overclock, but I also have a laptop cooler. I am curious what Overclocks people are getting on their GPUs. I was able to get 700/900 on mine. Was able to bump my 3dmark06 score from 7100 to 8500.

 

Sorry, but I won't be able to test this...maybe somebody else.
On acer's US site they also claim for the 5740 model to have True 5.1-channel surround-sound output ...

 

Yes but that does mean exactly what it says- there's gonna be 5.1 output but not 6 channel audio- just an up-scaled stereo.

 

yes, farenheit. im not oC'd wont do it, dont want to waste 750 on a burnt out gpu/cpu cuz its not fast enough, i woulda bought a i7 if i needed it that fast or overclocked.....

 

You can't burn your GPU by overclocking without raising the voltage - unless it's too hot with default settings as well. That's like saying you'll destroy your cars engine by putting more fuel to the tank.

My 5650 oc's to 695/920 and gets about 8590 marks.

I think it should be able to pass audio directly to amplifier and therefore enabling 5.1 surround. I'll try it today/tomorrow.

 

I agree. Another observation that I already made but you guys proved it again- this GPU is limited mainly by memory bandwidth.
Look at the scores 700/900 gives 8500, 695/920 gives 8600 but my 670/900 gives almost 8400 even though I'm trailing you for about 30MHz on GPU core.
To add insult to injury gentleman with Core i3 got 8600 with 640/1100.
Now just imagine what would it be like if Acer sticked with a plan to put HD5750 (GDDR5) in Aspire 5740G which apparently was what they originally intended.

That's sounds plausible.

 

Hello owners of 5740g.
I own a 5942g with an ati 5650.
I think it is exactly the same card.
Is it?
With which program do you overclock?
Which do you think are the ''best'' values considering improvement and heat?
If somebody uses the amd gpu clock, has downvolted to 0.9v?

 

This works fine for overclocking.
It is the same card although for reasons unknown the memory on 5740G is set to 750MHz instead of 800MHz- it doesn't affect its overclockability though so it is not to protect from overheating.
Anyway-max values depend on your particular card there are cases of people achieving 700MHz for core with no problems but these are the lucky ones, there are also the unlucky ones who get stuck at 620MHz for core- in most cases however 650MHz or more can be achieved.
The max memory frequency depends on memory modules and here the differences are significant- in most cases some 900MHz is max but the lucky ones got to 1100MHz.
As for undervolting- it doesn't go with OC- it's either-or situation. The max frequency for core (at least in case of 5740G) is a function of voltage rather than temperature. Basically none of us gets above 70*C while OCed (I managed 76*C once for a minute after several hours of GTA IV) so the reason we can't OC more is the lack of voltage to keep it stable at higher frequencies. So if you intend to OC your card you can't undervolt it- overvolting would be useful though (but it's not possible at present)

 

Thanks for the reply.
So in yours the memory is 50 Mhz down...
It seems like this is for management reasons just for Acer to have completely separated classes of laptops, rather than anything else.
Unless the chips on your 5650 have differences but i dont think thats the case.
For the first try i will try to get 650/900 just to be safe and see any differences.

 

I don't think it's meant to separate classes as it makes no difference in games.
I've compared Aspire 5740G (Core i5 430M/HD5650 550/750) to Timeline X 5820TG (Core i5 430M/HD5650 550/800) and the only score that is affected is 3DMark06. In game tests the results were very close with only few games being slightly faster on TimelineX but also few faster on 5740G (that keeping in mind that TimelineX 5820TG has more recent ATI drivers as it's been released 4 months after 5740G)
I would speculate that it may be related to either the initial plan by Acer to put GDDR5 in Aspire 5740G (it was meant to be HD5750 not HD5650 in it) or just the fact that some memory chips introduced in it were not able to work properly with given frequency and voltage provided by ATI BIOS at that time (there had been cases of memory artifacts in 5740G until new ATI BIOS has been released)

BTW keep monitoring your temperatures- the TimelineX 5820TG goes up to 86*C with default clocks after an hour of FurMark while mine 5740G peaked at 71*C while OCed to 670/900 (although I got bored after 16 minutes- but the temperature wasn't rising anymore) My point is- we may have the same card but different cooling systems and that matters even more.

 

Understood.
At your last point you are right.
With my i7 i see i little higher temps than owners of 5942g with i5's.
So imagine the differences there are in two different laptops.
Of course you can not compare.
At idle i have a little high temps at 52-54 degrees for my gpu.
I have reached 64 when playing videos, while editing photos etc but i have not played any games yet to see.
I have everest always open though.

 

Thats good. I hit 70-72c not-oc.

 

What's your room temperature? Most people hit some 67*C without OC.
That said OC doesn't add much to the temperature as you see so it's not like you cannot OC yourself- you would probably look at sth like 75-77*C which is still perfectly acceptable.

 

I wanted to buy a budget gaming laptop and the Acer Aspire 5740g 6979 looks like something I want, but I can't find it for sale anywhere... =( Did they just stop making them and does anyone know where I can buy one? It looks perfect for me.

 

there you go!....

Newegg.com - Acer Aspire AS5740G-6979 NoteBook Intel Core i5 430M(2.26GHz) 15.6" 4GB Memory DDR3 1066 500GB HDD 5400rpm DVD Super Multi ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650

 

Depends where you live I guess.

Here in norway there is almost no 5740G's to be found (few places has the core i3 version still in stock), they are instead pushing 5745G's with slower Nvidia GT330 cards.

 

Where did you find those numbers? You are getting me a bit worried since I have an 5820TG on order and was hoping for 700/900MHz+ GPU overclocking, but with such temps it might be doubtful.

 

Polish version of notebookcheck tested it.
Unfortunately while it still remains quiet like 5740G it is hot both internally (GPU temperature) and externally (look at the chassis temperatures)
BTW it doesn't have a proper air inlet at the bottom- that kinda explains it.

 

Rendering in Sony Vegas in really bada$$. Core temps went over 82'celsius

 

24-26*c are my room temps. I might have to try OC my gpu. I know the cpu gets about 10c warmer than the gpu.

 

Well that explains it- my room temperature is about 22*C so your GPU temperature is up to 5*C higher (comparing non-OCed) but room temperature is also around 4*C higher than mine.
As long as you keep it below 80*C OCed it's good. In your case I would expect 75-77*C while OCed- so it's still OK.

 

which exactly explains why i dont oC my stuff, i have absolutely no friggin idea what im talking about lol

 

yeah bro thats the notebook i have and i LOVE IT to death..

thats where i got my notebook, , it was 800 when i got mine, (749 after the pricedrop) keep a eye on it, it has been dropping to 699 every so often...)

 

Hi guys, I need some help.

I was running a few stress tests, and I noticed that my temperature was completely different from the ones you guys put up.

After 15 minutes of Prime95, the temperatures on the CPU were around 80-83, and the GPU was around 63. Is this normal? I think my CPU heats a bit higher than it's supposed to. Do you think I should open up my laptop and try to clean it out or reapply thermal paste or something?

 

No, it's fine. You can see my Prime95 temperatures in the first post of the thread- very similar to yours. That said you are unlikely to to have such high temps in real life (i.e. while gaming and so on)

 

got my 5740g today from newegg, the bad thing is newegg send me wrong one instead i got the 7740g (17.3" version), the good thing is when i call them back and they said i can keep it if i want

just wandering if the 7740g is the same spec with 5740g right, only screen difference? should i trade it back?

so far runs great, no defect on screen, come with the latest bios 1.22,
other things it's loaded with crap, it got 82 processes running out of the box x_x? any suggestion which one are safe to remove without removing acer software functionality?

 

If it has the same specs...I would definitely keep it. I wouldn't mind having the bigger screen with the higher resolution.

 

If I'm not mistaken 7740G has 1600x900 resolution- assuming you are going to play games in native resolution it's gonna be slower compared to 5740G in its native resolution. That said 7740G is a good notebook so if you like it there's no reason not to keep it.
On another note- you mentioned 1.22 BIOS for 7740G. The most recent according to Acer support website is 1.16- are you sure it's 1.22?
If it is I wonder why it's not available at their website.

 

Anyone managed to find the correct clock generator for this HM55 chipset? Or id'ed teh ICS clockgen chip? If so you could use setfsb and overclock the CPU too.

 

downloads : yeah it's 1.22, the box shows 1.22, acer website also has it

http://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles/BIOS/BIOS/BIOS_Acer_1.22_A_A.zip?acerid=634061186160475787&Step1=Notebook&Step2=Aspire&Step3=Aspire%205740G&OS=722&LC=en&BC=Acer&SC=PA_7

so anyone knows which software is safe to remove?

 

nky - A 17.3 inch widescreen laptop is very large and heavy. If you are going to carry it around campus then I would not recommend it and get your money back. However, if you are using it at as a desktop replacement and will be leaving it on the desk 99.9% of the time then you should keep it.

 

For people who are having trouble with the beeps when you plug in:

I found it weird that I never had this problem. Only when the computer was loading Windows would it beep. When it was fully loaded, there was no beep. I found out the reason, after months, of owning this laptop.

I had downloaded the SRS Audio Sandbox. Having this effectively got rid of the PC beeps. I tested it by disabling it, and the beeps were back. So, I guess that's an alternative for anyone to consider. I personally love SRS Audio Sandbox, so I'm alright with it.

And did anyone find out if 5.1 Surround sound works not via the HDMI port?

And Downloads, thanks man. I can rest easy.

 

Has this notebook been discontinued?

I'm confused because I know it wasn't released too long ago, but I've been unable to find it anywhere other than Newegg, and even there it's sold out (more on the way, but still).

So...what's the deal?

Also I'll just go ahead and say that from what the specs say it sounds like an ideal machine for a guy like me who plays some games here and there but isn't using his laptop exclusively for that...would that be a correct assertion?

 

Can you tell me if you are using Microsoft HD Audio drivers and Microsoft Default Microphone drivers with SRS Audio Sandbox? That would explain why the PC Beep is gone.

I tried SRS Audio Sandbox with Realtek 2.48 drivers and I still have the PC Beep. The reason why I wanted to try with Realtek 2.48 drivers is because I wanted a fully working microphone. The Microsoft Default Microphone drivers still don't work that well.

 

Yes I am. I never used Realtek drivers. My friend just sent me his SRS Audio Sandbox, and I really liked it, so I never bothered with Realtek.

Edit: and the mic really does suck. But I never really used it, so I don't mind.