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    Acer Aspire 5740G Owners Lounge

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by downloads, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. ypnos

    ypnos Notebook Enthusiast

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    Notebook is new (don't know what refurbished means) but it's new!
    bios version and drivers version are from factory,updated none of them.
    gta version?from the bought dvd,no patches updated.
    everest?sorry noobie here,tell me how.
    and i have HD5650

    Bbrowsing the forum,only one thing i can say:
    downloads,you're doing great job

    cheers
     
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    It could be a game specific problem and not a driver problem. I have read somewhere that there is a GTA IV patch specifically made for the HD 5650 or ATI video cards in general to solve the stuttering/slowdown problem. However, not every HD 5650 owner has this problem.
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Never mind Everest- I thought they still have some free basic version but apparently not- download HWInfo32, run it and report back on your BIOS version (in motherboard tab) and on battery (in smart battery tab).

    You may want to update drivers- second post of the thread has what you need. The latest ATI drivers in that post are Catalyst 10.8 because 10.10 cause some problems for some of us.
    I'd recommend GTA IV with patch 1.0.0.4 (patch number 5)- nothing older and nothing more recent. This one seemed to give the best performance.
     
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    Ca6Ko Newbie

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    The latest one 0.4.8
    Are you sure it's running in v2.0 because you have to wait with the cursor on the box to show you the message?
    I have the latest bios, chipset drivers and catalyst 10.10
    I wonder if it is a hardware problem or software, any ideas?
     
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    kilara1 Notebook Geek

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    I confirm that my ati hd 5650 is also working in pcie v1.1 mode although gpu-z shows it supports v2.0.What is the difference between pcie v1.1 and v2.0?And is there any performance loss if it is working in v1.1 mode?Also can i change it if it is better to be in v2.0 mode?

    PS:Here is screenshot of GPU-Z.The the red circle is the supported mode and the black circle is the current operating mode.
    [​IMG]
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    It looks like you are right although it's not a problem- if we had at least 128bit GDDR5 we could talk about link speed but not with DDR3 128bit memory.
    There used to be 256bit GDDR3 desktop cards that didn't benefit from PCI-Ex 2.0 so our cards are not really able to use it to full extent.

    It's interesting to know why though- you have 1.22 BIOS and Cats 10.10 while I have 1.16 BIOS and Cats 10.8- still the same result :/
     
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    sshadowww Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi, did someone tryied to connect multiple monitors to your 5740g? Is that true, that you can connect 6 monitors to your 5740g? I want to connect 2 monitors to my laptop, what wire I need (because only 1 wga port in laptop)? Thanx
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Six is impossible on a notebook- you'd have to have DisplayPort. Without it you can use only up to two "legacy" monitors (via DVI, HDMI or VGA).
    There are also some kind of dongles required to do it (see here).
    I'm not sure if it means you could use two or three monitors on 5740G (I don't know if internal LCD counts as a legacy monitor or not)
     
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    sshadowww Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for info downloads. I'll check more about it. But isn't there any switch to buy, say you put your two monitor wires in it, and then connect it to laptop wga port? I need two external monitors 23'', laptop screen is too small. I don't want only because of that buy new pc..
     
  10. ypnos

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    bios 1.09.update to 1.16 i suppose?
    but where is smart battery tab?can't find it

    [/QUOTE]You may want to update drivers- second post of the thread has what you need. The latest ATI drivers in that post are Catalyst 10.8 because 10.10 cause some problems for some of us.
    I'd recommend GTA IV with patch 1.0.0.4 (patch number 5)- nothing older and nothing more recent. This one seemed to give the best performance.[/QUOTE]

    downloaded everything, and as soon as i install game, i'll let you know :D
    thanx

    edit:sorry,looking at wrong window :p
    designed capacity 47520 mWh
    full charged capacity 46300 ,Wh
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Update to BIOS at least 1.16 it fixes battery issues although using older BIOS and completely draining the battery may have already damaged it.
    That's the theory- in practice everybody who updated saw their battery problems fixed.
    Since you're updating BIOS anyway go straight to 1.22- it's in essence 1.16 with new VBIOS for Radeon card added on top of it.
     
  12. ypnos

    ypnos Notebook Enthusiast

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    ok,i'll update to 1.22 then
    as for gta iv, did everything and now i get a fatal error:ws10
    any ideas?
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    After you've updated BIOS and Catalyst drivers try to reinstall the game.
    If you bought it recently it may be already patched to version more recent than 1.0.0.4 and that may cause the problem.
     
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    the game is rented from dvd club :(
    anyway thanx for helping
     
  15. ypnos

    ypnos Notebook Enthusiast

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    downloads you're the best!!
    updated bios and catalyst,re-installed the game and runs sweet!!
    in the first post,the gta benchmark is about overclocked ati?cause i believe that i shouls lower a bit the requirements.

    anyway,thanx a lot,be sure that next time that i have an issue to solve,you're the first i'm gonna visit fot an opinion

    cheers
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Glad it worked.
    Yes the benchmark in the first post was done with 670/900 OC.
     
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    Ca6Ko Newbie

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    Hi again,
    I have another interesting problem, if you open for example notepad and press and hold the left arrow and the up arrow and then press the "a" key you will see
    "aaaaaaaa" right, but if you do the same and press the "s" or "d" nothing happens witch is odd. The issue dose not exist when you are using external usb keyboard, but i haven't find any other solution yet. I'll be glad if you could share some ideas, because i think we all have the same problem?
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    I've seen the non-working key combinations in a review many months ago:

    * WD + E
    * SD + E, Z, X, C
    * AS + X
    * WA + X
    * up arrow & left arrow + S, D, G, H, Z, V, B, M, space, right Alt, right Shift
    * down arrow & left arrow + Enter
    * down arrow & right arrow + 1, 3, Q, T, U, P, J, Z, V, P, space, right Alt, right Ctrl
    * down arrow & right arrow of numeric block + 2, 4, 5, 7, 0, Backspace, I, O, Z, V, B, space, both Ctrl, both Alt

    It's related to the keyboard controller and is not model specific.
    Still I can see where the problem part comes in- it's technically possible for you to need a combo like this in a game but so far I've finished 14 games on this notebook and few business projects and this was never an issue for me.
    I don't think there's a sollution to this.
     
  19. Ca6Ko

    Ca6Ko Newbie

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    It's a problem for me, but I can live with it. For example in fifa it's often used when you're dribbling with the ball to the upper-left diagonal and you want to pass or shoot it's just not happening :D
    But anyways thanks for the info and keep up the good work, you're great downloads (bow)
     
  20. newuser3

    newuser3 Notebook Guru

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    for fifa use joypad :) supa dupa game is here :)
     
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    garfieldncheese Notebook Consultant

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    im frequently getting blue screens while playing dirt 2...i think its coz of over heating...im doin a bios update right now...my laptop is just 2 months old...anything i shud know abt before doing the bios update??
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    BIOS has nothing to do with overheating but feel free to update- it may be useful anyway.
    As for overheating- there's no need to guess use GPU-Z (monitors GPU temp only), Hardware Monitor (monitors both CPU and GPU) or even AMD GPU Clock Tool (GPU only) working in the background while playing and either ALT+TAB once in a while to take note of temps or set your monitoring app to log values.
    Check if the game is patched and if your drivers are up to date. You may also clean the vents just in case.
     
  23. ypnos

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    playing gta iv while on baterry energy sucks!!
    do you think i should disable power-play?i prefer quality to quantity..
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    I wouldn't play GTA IV on battery either way- I don't think you can get more than 45-50min of gameplay. While there are (unfortunately) many games for which 50min of gameplay equals significant part of single player story, GTA is not one of them- you won't even notice any progress made in that time.
    But if you want to play it on battery power- yes I'd use max performance profile in Windows and in PowerPlay.
     
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    coodex Newbie

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    I am having lags on my mouse on Acer Aspire 5740G. Is tehre a fix for this please? The problem is after using the keypad and then use the mouse it lags a little and then responds. :mad:
    Hello people.. has anyone else got this problem after using the keyborad the mouse does nto respond straight away.. please help
     
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    dowloads,if i overclock the ati i'll get higher performance??and then after finishing gaming return to default settings?
    look, as i told you in a previous post,i am noobie,don't know much...so,couldd you guide me into doing it?and by guiding tell me what i need to download,how do i do it,and what do i do after finishing gaming.also,anything extra you feel it's right to inform me about :D
    by the way,i really like this machine!!happy bought this one and not sth else

    cheers
     
  27. Rhadamanthis

    Rhadamanthis Notebook Evangelist

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    but the power supply is max 65 w? i would install i5 460m
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Use AMD GPU Clock Tool (link in the first post)- it's going to show 100MHZ for the core and 150MHz for memory (due to PowerPlay) . Type in the values you want to start with 650MHz for core and 950MHz for memory should be safe- then click "set clocks" and test them with a demanding game or benchmark (3DMark06 is not demanding enough- GTA IV is though).
    It's likely that your core may go a bit higher and the memory may be able to get to like 900MHz or even 1100MHz if you're lucky. It's unit specific so you have to test it yourself. After you are finished gaming/testing you have to use "restore default clocks" button. Remember that even if you don't restore them default frequencies are going to be applied at reboot.
    You may get approximetly up to 20-22% boost in fps- depending on a game.

    I don't know what are you referring to but 5740G has 90W PSU
     
  29. geokim

    geokim Newbie

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    greetings
    i just got my lappy today too :D. 5740g i5 5650. I need some info thou' , could someone post results from cpu-z CPU tab and memory tab?
    thanks in advance
    btw just a quick run on 3dmarks06 without changing anything gave about 7200 pointsm expected a bit more tbh

    *oh i'm lucky enough to find hitachi hdd inside :D
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Welcome to the forums geokim.
    Here you go:

    [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Aspire 5740G has VRAM set to 750MHz instead of 800MHz like most notebooks with HD5650. This doesn't affect fps in real game benchmarks but you lose some 200 points in 3DMark06 because of this. You can OC it off course- that's why I bought this unit.
     
  31. Simini

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    I noticed that some buttons combinations are not working. For example "left arrow" + "up arrow' + "S" or "D". I updated bios but it didn't help. Can you help me fix it? I can't play FIFA on my notebook :)
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    Welcome to the forums Simini
    Nope- no solution. We've just talked about it starting from post 2367- I posted a list of non-working combos (not a full one though) but it seems to be controller related and I don't think we're gonna see any changes in that.
     
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    Simini just roll back 2-3 pages and you will get your answer.
    Downloads thnx m8 we have the same results in cpu-z (was afraid that bus speed and dram frequency was low) and yes i'm aware of the clocks of 5650 , but u got like 2k more points in 3dmark , gonna o/c soon and see what happens. I'm also considering a fresh windows install, too much trash ...
    Overall i'm quite happy atm with this laptop, only problem is that the speakers are making noises ... but what the hell laptop speakers...
     
  34. Rhadamanthis

    Rhadamanthis Notebook Evangelist

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    hello download, i installed a intel i5 460m on my 5740g :)

    the sistem start but when turn on bios don't recognize cpu but you can touch key f1 and the system run gratly.

    my bios is 1.22, how to modify 1.22 bios with intel i5 code update?
     
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    alstrike Notebook Consultant

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    Maybe resetting the BIOS to default values will do the trick...
     
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    Just an FYI for those interested,
    I may plan on getting the:
    Acer Aspire 5742G-7220
    listed here :
    LINK


    If I get it i will do a review on the GPU and other goodies and will Update my first post (second to OP) to include the review.
     
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    thnx downloads... the temperatures read max 96 deg sometimes n avg temp is 80-85 degrees..i got a cooling pad doesnt crash nemore so far...will try getting the vents looked at...or can i do sum cleaniing myself????
    thnx in advance
     
  38. Rhadamanthis

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    how to? i don't says
     
  39. alstrike

    alstrike Notebook Consultant

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    Well it´s not that hard.

    Press F2 at startup to get into the BIOS menu, then go to the far right option and select "Default values" and exit saving the changes.

    You´re welcome.
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    I don't know which post do you mean but I think it would be better if you started a new thread for 5742G- if you edit one of your posts it's not gonna give you the exposure and reader attention desired. Old posts don't get revisited too often and someone may be looking for info on 5742G.
    By the looks of things GT425M doesn't seem to be any faster than HD5650 but I'm looking forward to your benchmarks.

    You can use gas duster (canned air) to clean the vents yourself.
     
  41. Rhadamanthis

    Rhadamanthis Notebook Evangelist

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    i have updated kbc and bios but the problem persist :(
     
  42. alstrike

    alstrike Notebook Consultant

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    Maybe the CPU is not properly placed in the socket. Another user in a Spanish forum had the same problem with his i7-620m, the pushed the CPU properly in place and now it´s working.

    He went from an i3-350m to an i7-620m.
     
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    i have pushed cpu properly chirugy operayions, i gamed with windows and some game and works, i not understand
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    I'm afraid the reason is the BIOS for 5740G has been launched in April (Q2 2010) whereas Core i5 460M has been launched in Q3 2010 so the BIOS can't recognize the CPU correctly.
    We can't really mod BIOS for 5740G because Phoenix BIOS Editor version that we have is too old to properly open and edit new BIOSes. I'm not sure if this method of splitting the BIOS in two would be OK if it was to be joined again after editing. You should contact kizwan with this problem.
     
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    So is it working? I think I understand that your message says yes...
     
  46. Rhadamanthis

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    work all in inclusive but at turn on notebook display error microcode
     
  47. alstrike

    alstrike Notebook Consultant

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    But you said in another thread that the CPU is working. You said you can game and work in windows.

    What microcode thing are you worried about?
     
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    02F0: CPU ID: 55 No Microcode Update Loaded for Alternate Processor
     
  49. alstrike

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    But my question is:

    Does the computer work normally with the new CPU? Can you play games? Can you surf the internet?

    If so, what more do you need?
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    As Rhadamanthis mentioned earlier he has to press F1 at boot each time after the microcode error has been displayed just to start the notebook.
    For once it's rather annoying- nothing serious though, but it also needs investigating- does the TurboBoost work or not, is the RAM at right frequencies, does the VT work etc.
    CPU that's working as genuine processor may not utilize all of its features be it power saving or performance features.
     
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