Acer Aspire 5930(G) owner thread

hay guys ... i read the whole 65 pages /me tired

*I have the stupid noise issue in the right speaker and that noise is very very annoying in youtube specially with higher volumes.I saw that it is quite popular.I've downloaded the new Realtek drivers, but i want to ask first what if it didn't solve my problem can i go back to the Acer ones with the subWhoofer function working.

*about the OC thing i wanna know what the worse that could actually happen if anything goes wrong cuz i'm planning to oc my GPU

thanks guys in advance .... your doing a gr8 job really

 

LOL nice job

The best thing to do is create a restore point.
The try the Realtek drivers, if they don't work, you can un-install them and re-install the acer ones.

As a last resort you can use the restore point, but make it anyway as a safety precaution

Overclocking the card causes the card to produce more heat

if it is overclocked too much it can get very hot and get fried
Also, overclocking too much makes the card unstable so you will get BSODs and artifacts when gaming and such and many crashes

Monitor your temps when idle and under load to see how hot they are.
Tells us before you overclock.
Mine were high before so i want to lower them more before I OC my GPU

Hope this helps
Welcome to the 5930 thread

 

Nothing, there is a security on gpu, if you go above 105°C, the lap will automatically shut down. To OC in a safer way, I've put this critic temp from 105°C to 95°C. i've never reached 95°C yet, i'm far from it. But as Rayyan said, you have to monitor your temps, because there are differences from one lap to another.
The only thing you'll expérience if you OC too high will be black screens (no BSODs for me), this is a "drivers lost response". You just have to reboot your lap, that's all.

 

That is very impressive

You're such a polite man, Mr.Niceguy . I'm your big fan.

BTW, welcome Medo-sd

All you want to know
Is here and free bro

 

it's good to be nice

It only takes a coupla secs to make a comment that helps someone feel welcome

Loving this laptop

I got some compressed air and I am going to clean the vents out properly soon
Then LET THE OVERCLOCKING COMMENCE

PS - There are alot of drivers for the same thing on the driver disk I burned
Which am I supposed to use if I re-install vista

 

Holy crap on a cracker ! French word !!! BTW i have the end of your story : "His laptop fried like hell and he was now able to cook scrambled eggs on it"

 

LOL
Me likey

But, but.....
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I like fried eggs HAAAA

Naw, man this will be the ending

He OC like a human within the limits of his card, and eventually got a new record

Now go eat some eggs on crackers man, in "sexy"

 

Hey, last Dox drivers are out 182.05 and waouh look at this :

No black screen and higher score, good driver, better than 179.28 !!!!!


plus only 73°c top !!!!!

 

I know, I was waiting for performance comparison to 179.28

Cool, I might give them a try, why don't you use HWMonitor to monitor temps???

Also, what is the difference between the default clock and the GPU clock

 

I'm playing Cryostasis at the moment which uses PhysX technology and i tried to disable PhysX in nvidia panel control. It's really impressive : with PhysX disabled, i'm about 18 average fps (catastrophical) and with PhysX enabled, i'm about 30 fps average.

I never tried HWmonitor that's all

Défault clocks are factory clocks (normally 500/1250/800 but since i've flashed my gpu, i've changed it)
Gpu clocks are the effective clocks when you do your OC with nvidia tools.

You'll understand when you'll try to OC

 

I discovered that i'm shaders limited when i OC my gpu. With 680/1500/950, no more crashes during games. Yeah ! No need of clocks synchronisation. If i go above 1500 for shaders, I have regular crashes during games.

 

Hello again, just tried out the DOX 182.05 driver, and got the score of 7217 in 3Dmark06. with the clock 720/950/1730.
The shader clock do automatic go up to 1750 for some reason, but it's nothing to worry about.
As all of you other people i got the P7350 processor, and as normal 800 fsb.

How high is it ever recorded with this processor?
3Dmark score offcourse !

 

Quick question - which software are you guys using to overclock the GPU?


Edit: Ah nevermind I read back a few pages and found out: http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvidia_system_tools_6.03.html

I'm gonna experiment and see what the temperatures are like if I OC to 9700m GT clocks.

I've also updated to Dox 182.05 and it seems like the best driver so far. I'm getting slightly better performance and slightly lower temps

 

In sweden the T9600 CORE2 DUO 2.8G 1066/6M cost arround 500euro!

I didin't think it was that expensive. How cheap can i get it?

Best regards

Vaquin

 

I think the person who bought the T9600 hasn't been here for a while

Try sending him a PM

From what I recall, I believe that he bought his for ~200€ from eBay

 

Yea that's correct i saw now on ebay that you can get it for 200dollars. Okey so i have now recevied my acer aspire 5930g. I noticed that i got like 100 different type of games and programs preinstalled on the computer. That's a big minus with acer that they have to import so many programs to it right from the begining. So i've uinstalled most of the programs but not the acer components to keep it runing etc.

Why i bought this computer was because i wanted a powerful computer that i could bouth play advanced games but also do my work on. So what operativ system should i use?

Now it's windows vista home premium i guess thats 32bit. Also im wondering what drivers i should use for the graphic card etc. Please give me some tips to get it in tip top shape!

thanks

 

I just did the 3dmark test. I got 5600 with nothing added or changed with the computer as it is from unboxing it. What are your best tips to improve (as my question above)

 

This is what I also did
I have kept the acer programs like epower/recovery, etc, because I think they only benefit the system

I un-installed everything else, like the AV and Office trials, and all the games (they are all demos anyway)

This is entirely up to you
XP works on the system and you can find links to all the various drivers for XP throughout this thread
I am using Vista Home premium that came with the laptop, and no problems till now
I improved performance by un-installing anything I don't need and following this great thread (click)
Check it out

It is indeed

I am using the 179.28 driver from nVidia and it works great for me, I get decent performance out of it
I also hear that DoX's latest driver is also good
(Kallogan mentions it above)

I would suggest checking out the tweak guide I linked to above, updating the graphic card drivers

Also get HWMonitor and keep an eye on your temps, if they are normal/low you can also overclock your card for a higher score and better performance

Hope this helps

 

Hi guys,
i went through with the XP installation and got it nearly done. but i have got a few issues like there is this unknown hardware which shows as PCI card, Audio Definition and Modem. I checked with nVidia's download page and found nForce driver section having HDMi drivers. but i dont know which one to download. its because they have it for nforce 7,6,5 boards. any clues?

on the other hand, i installed XP on a separate drive from the preinstalled Vista, i seemingly lost the Vista installation. there is no menu, there is no option to choose the OS needed at the start. i left the drive intact tho. but i think i wont need it again. i had backed up the necessary content. but the doubt is, how come i lost that option. like, why no menu? upon starting the machine, it takes me straight to XP desktop.

i am intending to do triple booting on this machine. i had done that with my previous laptop and it went well. i will try it out here and tell you guys about the result.

 

Hello there!

I'm wondering if you guys fans go back to running with the lowest rotation speed (the one that's almost inaudible), when the laptop has been cooled down with a higher rotation speed. Cause I think the fan in my laptop raise the speed one step when the CPU hits 60 degrees, but it never goes back to "silent mode" again, even when it's idle.

Any Ideas?

I have the setup with the Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU P7350 @ 2.00GHz and NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT with the 182.05 Dox drivers.

These are my idle temps:

 

Those are notebook drivers on the site

You need to go here and choose GeForce notebooks, your OS and you will get the newest drivers for your card
nVidia Drivers (click here)

Not sure sure why the vista installation doesn't show, check your BIOS settings, maybe your vista installation got corrupted somehow

As for the SATA drivers check page 12 of this thread, Deks posted on how to get it working with everything you need

Hope it helps

Your idle temps look quite high, like mine were before I cleaned the laptop
They are above a certain temp, which is why the fan doesn't turn off/go into silent mode.

I think on mine, the fan turns of when one of the temps go below a certain value (GPU<40 or CPU<30)
Not sure of the exact values

it's probably dusty, but tell me how long you've had it before doing anything

Peace

 

Hey Rayyan,
Thanks for the tip. I been there before. So you are saying that the installation of all nVidia devices come under one package? Well, i think i went past that without looking, thinking that i would get the drivers as separate. Thanks. Downloading it now.

I had installed the video drivers of DoX at first, that might have been a problem. But i guess tomorrow, i will reinstall the whole thing over again. Remove the Vista installation and fill it with whatever else of OS's i got on my list . But i think i will need to flash my bios to the latest because i am only shown 3GB of ram. Any tips on a safe way to do it?

 

If Deks is right about HWMonitor and the P7350 CPU the temps seem to be OK!?

It would be really nice of you if you could check at what temp the fan turns off - when you have the time ofc.

I've had it for about a month and have already cleaned the heatsink/fan with compressed air once.

Thanks for replying!

 

Not sure about one package, the video drivers are in one file

Since you are coming from DoX driver i suggest you follow these steps to avois any conflicts/problems from not un-installing the DoX ones propperly

1-Download a program called driver sweeper and install it
2-un-install the dox drivers using control panel
3-When you restart after fully un-installing boot into safe mode
4-Start driver sweeper (in safe mode) and choose nVidia and scan
5-delete everything it finds
6- you have deleted all traces of the old driver, so it is now safe to boot normally and install the new drivers normally and everything should go smoothly.
Good Luck

flashing the BIOS doesn't affect how much RAM you see.
I don't think you should flash unless you really have to

The amount of RAM you see is OS-dependant
32-bit versions of XP and Vista can only recognise 3Gb of ram (Vista SP1 can see 4gb in some cases)
For the system to see all 4Gb and fully use em you need a 64-bit version of the OS, but since you probably won't need anything more than 3Gb I wouldn't worry too much

it's strange that your idle temps are high on a month old laptop thats already been cleaned once (I cleaned mine yesterday, first time in 6 months )
But if HWMonitor tells CPU temps as 10 degrees higher your fine

Make sure you are not blocking the air-intake fan at the bottom
This happens if the laptop is on a bed or flush with your leg
It heats up if the air doesnt reach the fan as the heatsink can't be cooled

Also, don't worry about the fans they almost always spin for me
The only turned off once but then temps got high again and it started up again
My fan when idling/surfing/watching a movie is barely audible
I only hear it if my room is silent (rare )

Hope this helps guys
(rep me if it did)

 

Thanks for all your answers Rayyan really good guide!

 

I see a lot of different temperatures posted for this computer, so here is mine.

Quite on the hot side you might say, 91 deg C for an 2GHz P7350 CPU using the new 45nm tech.

I also have an asus M50SA using an T9300 2.53GHz 65nm CPU, and it runs around 65 deg C at full load.

So acers cooling solutions are awful. Not to mention the Asus M50SA being less noisy. So acer managed to put in an cooling solution that is both noisy and ineffective.

On the other hand the asus can't run 2hrs on the battery, while the acer can run for 4hrs.

 

No worries gald I could help

Actually acer's cooling is good and mine is quiet.
i only hear it when its silent when idle and when its quiet under full load
I have a higher clocked processor than you, and I had hit 100 degrees C (TZS0/1) 94-GPU, 93/88- CPU while gaming, I thought it was crap cooling
The reason was dust not the cooling
Since cleaning it out my GPU peakes at 75 and CPU at ~62 after a few hours of CoD4

See this thread to see how dusty my laptop was when I had the high temps and there are also HWMointor screens as proof

No one else on this thread reported such high temps as you when under load. check yourself if you want

 

This happened because you installed XP After Vista .. when you do that even if on different partitions the vista boat loader gets deleted and you can't choose to boot into it .... there is a free software called Vista boot loader which will help you restore the vista option along with XP one.
in the future if you wanna dual or even triple boot just make sure you install the old OS First.

 

The laptop i brand new, I've had it for a whopping 15hrs now. So I doubt dust is an issue

And it's among the more quiet laptops yeah, but far from as silent as the asus m50sa.

I'm considering opening it and removing heatsinks/fan, clean it and apply some silver based grease. Downside of this is voiding the warranty.

 

Thanks that is good to know

I see....
Are you blocking the fan (on the bottom), this can seriously cause it to overheat
You're the only one with high temps on a dust free laptop
Strange.........

if the fan isn't blocked than maybe something is defective, might want to take it back where you bought /or Acer which ever applies and tell them of the problem

Which game was it BTW

 

No it's standing on my desk with nothing behind/under it. So no blocking.

I also noticed my idle temps of around 55 deg C is quite high, room temp here is 22 deg C.

I looped 3dmark06 tests 5 times at 1024 x 768 resolution when I got those temps. Only game I have on it is wow, and there the GPU is in mid 70ies and CPU in top 70ies as it's not an very demanding game.

 

guys ... how can i enable Physx ?

 

When i installed XP and installed the video drivers, i checked into the advanced configuration mode. And i saw that PhysX was already enabled.

 

@medo_sd
Thanks for the info, dude. But i guess i figured it out myself here. Went through a lot of installing and uninstalling of OS's and figuring out issues which came about during each try. So i guess the sequence should be like Old>Newer>Newest. . Rough talk but i guess u got the point. .

But otherwise there are softwares that help you edit the boot.ini file.

And one doubt, If i install XP onto the first drive, could i be able to direct the installation for Vista onto another drive with the "Recovery DVD". On my guessing, i dont know if its possible. Any ideas?
Thanks again.

 

But i thought someone mentioned it in this thread that when flashing to the latest version of bios found on the Acer website, the system will be able to recognise it has 4 GB of ram. And yea, i just didnt want the extra 1 GB to go waste in the case that only 3 is detected.

So i need a 64 bit OS for that eh? hmmm

Thanks a lot for the info.

p.s. this thread really helped a lot. lots of awesome ppl (rayyan, deks, kikso, werewolfery, kallogan... lots of names)
:GEEK:

 

That's quite high, even on idle

You should try it with some more games and then if the temps are always high, something might be defective and it would be better to send it in

I'm pretty sure that the recovery disk restores your computer to the way it was back when you first got it, so I believe vista will be re-installed in the C: drive
Not sure what happens if you re-partition your drive though

No, flashing the BIOS won't show more RAM than what the system can recognise
You'll need a 64-bit edition of windows to see all 4GB (good luck finding that in olaya computer market )

 

hey rayyan,
by the way, i bought one cooling pad from olaya computer market for 8 riyals.
believe it or not, but thats like 2 $.

i got around 4 cooling pads ranging from 8-35 riyals (didnt buy it in one go but over a month) and i found no differences in performances when comparing with the temperatures shown by the Zalman cooler of Deks and the Cooler master. I meant, they actually are the same. i get really low temperatures. i will be back with a repost and pic on the different temperatures i get. and mine is like some local chinese product. variants come in one, two, three or even four fans. good thing about this is that when one of the fans fail on you, you can replace them with the models aplenty from the market.

and in the meantime, lemme see if i can get a cooler pad of the high grade like the Cooler Master. and see if there is anything as advantage other than durability

this 8 riyals one isnt strong or anything, but it does the job for you.. give a reduction of temperatures from 10-15 degrees...and thats bliss..

 

One more thing.
When using a cooler pad, make sure you dont connect yours to the usb port. This, i am talking from experience. Its better finding a power alternative, that is you should connect the pad to a power outlet. Connecting to the usb and using it continuously for hours tend to bring a situation called 'USB overload' and can even be fatal for the motherboard, esp the usb bus. This is because the fan operation is dependent on the application running, like gaming or watching movies etc, and this brings in large amount of power/ bandwidth variations in the bus, including that the pad is taking power too from the usb port. A few salesreps and technicians gave the idea to not use the pad on a usb port and a small 'research' from my side even proved it. (I lost a laptop motherboard that way , (acer aspire 5114wlmi, i learnt it the hard way) but it was covered under warranty, so no sweat, but that was a warning for later).

There are adapters available in the market that has a power plug at one point to a usb-out at the other end, like the charger cable for Motorola phones. If you cant find any, you can make one yourselves. And if you want to know how, i can help out.

OR you can get a pad that comes with a power cable. Thats much better.

 

That's awesome
Can you post some pics of the coolers you have, and which shop you bought em from

I'll have to wait till my dad gets back to go and buy em though (dont drive 0

 

Here is a pic which compares the temperatures when i am on general use and when i game (left and right respectively). This was on Vista.



On XP, this machine seems like dead cold. . cant feel any heat, when i am on general use like browsing, reading etc. Havent started gaming on it. Will soon.:wink:

 

On the other hand, when i played really intensive games like COD5, on full high settings, i touched 90 degrees for the processor and 80 for the GPU without fan.

@ RaYYaN
i bought the pads from around Olaya Computer Market. The one that i have right now is from Horizon Palace (HP). The brand is Eton, one of the ___.. uh... in the market(fill in the blanks with your imagination ), and its for 8 riyals and above. It does the job well tho. This is a flat model. Tilt models come from 15Riyals+. One comes for 35 riyals with tilt, three fans and that is my favorite. Sorry but i dont have it right now, i gave it to my brother, i will get him to send me a pic then i will show you. That company was some Crystal or Generix something.

I suggest you buy a tilt model. Its best for your wrist while typing and all, talking on overall ergonomics.

Then there are models that go from 99 Riyals onwards to 350 and all. And i have never glanced at them, other than looks and quality, for some obvious reasons. hehehe.

 

Those temps are like mine, even when gaming

Also, I hope to go to computer market soon, once my dad comes back to riyadh
I was also planning to get a tilt cooler

 

"When its broke, why wait 5 weeks for warranty repair if you can fix it yourself?"

Anyway, don't do this if you are not sure you can do it.

I opened mine, removed the coolers, removed the old cooling paste (which looked decent actually). And put on IC diamond 7C cooling paste, originally wanted to put on arctic silver paste, but couldn't find it. IC diamond is slightly better, but an hell to work with/apply correcly, especially in an laptop (easy to scrape it off the CPU when sliding the cooler back in place). But after some careful maneuvering of the cooler, I think the paste is still where it's supposed to be!

My idle temps stays about the same, but my CPU load temp dropped a lot!

Same test as earlier, slightly higher room temp of 25 deg C.

All in all, I'm happy with my "fix". And yes, 3-5 weeks is common warranty repair time for most laptop brands here. CBA waiting that long just to get it back with an sticker "tested ok, no faults found" since the high temps doesn't make it crash.

 

One BIG doubt... i dont think its because 32 bit XP OS reads only 3GB because its a '32bit' thingy. I think there is some other reason. Maybe the 32 bit OS (of XP) was programmed in such a way as to map just 3 Gb, or nearly, that much amount of RAM. At that time, nobody thought of getting more than 2 GB i guess or maybe maximum 3, that they the programmers) limited it to that much (must have thought that XP will get 'outdated' by the time big RAMs started coming out).

There is a point of 'saturation' for utilizing RAM, that is, with XP, you cant go above a certain amount of RAM usage, whatever you do. That holds the virtual limit. So in the case there is physical manipulation, that means that when you are physically adding RAM, XP wont bother to count ahead, it doesnt need to. But now here in this case, i want it to.

For later on editions of OS's, they must have programmed it to read available RAM.

I guess XP is still capable of reading and utilizing that extra ram if we can do some small tweaks somewhere. Or maybe that entire 1 GB is going waste... dont you think so? If this is 'true', i want someone to give me a concrete explanation that shows that XP is capable of showing just/maximum 3 GB. Concrete stuff with insane computing calculations.. (just the feature of excitement)

(I think i will turn out to be the total idiot here, but i cant help it. Want to know the practical explanation. As in WHY? Why IS it like that? )

OK... I got the answer

In 32 bit Windows operating systems, the total addressable space available is 4GB. If you installed total 4GB memory, the system will detect less than 4GB of total memory because of address space allocation for other critical functions, such as:

- System BIOS (including motherboard, add-on cards, etc..)
- Motherboards resources
- Memory mapped I/O
- Configuration for AGP/PCI-Ex/PCI
- Other memory allocations for PCI devices

Different onboard devices and different add-on cards (devices) will result of different total memory size. e.g. more PCI cards installed will require more memory resources, resulting of less memory free for other uses.

This limitation applies to most chipsets & Windows XP/Vista 32-bit version operating systems.

If you install a Windows operating system, if more than 3GB memory is required for your system, then the below conditions should be met:

1. The memory controller which supports memory swap functionality is used. The latest chipsets like Intel 975X, 955X, Nvidia NF4 SLI Intel Edition, Nvidia NF4 SLI X16, AMD K8 and newer architectures can support the memory swap function.

2. Windows XP Pro X64 Ed. (64-bit), Windows Vista 64, or other OS which can address more than 4GB memory.

By Scotteq on TomsHardware Forums.

My mind at peace now..

 

yeah, warranties don't usually care if you have high temps and it still works

That's why I opened mine and cleaned it
Also, this is a good fix, but not everyone can do it, and it most likely voids the warranty
I plan on doing this once my warranty is up to further help cooling, maybe even upgrade to a t9800

I have vista SP1 and it shows all 4GB of ram
But from what i have read online, 32-bit windows has been made/programmed in such a way that it is only able to use 3(.3GB) of RAM max

Not sure why, you should ask in the windows forum for a more exact answer

 

I just installed windows xp professional sp3, I removed evrything els including my windows vista os. Now i wonder i got the drivers that i found in 500mb zip file in a post in this thread. The reason why i changed to xp is because i like it alot more and my games will probably preform better. In vista when i used the nvidia driver that i got with the computer i hade 35fps max in 3dmark06 but when i installed the latest driver for the graphic card i only hade like 19-20fps max. why is that?

Could someone please tell me the best working drivers right now including the graphic driver for the acer aspire 5930g

Thanks!

 

Not sure about the other drivers on XP

But, the best video drivers are nVidia's 179.28

 

182.06 driver performs very good for me so far.

 

Don't you mean .05

 

Where can i find that nvidia 179.28 driver for xp?