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    Acer Aspire 5930(G) owner thread

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by johan_80, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. RaYYaN

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    Go here

    Choose XP under GeForce notebook to download the driver that corresponds to you system
     
  2. vaquin

    vaquin Notebook Enthusiast

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    but then i get the

    NVIDIA Driver Downloads
    GeForce Release 179 for Notebooks BETA
    Version: 179.48

    and not the .28 version
     
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    .06 is WHQL and an tiny bug fixed (not related to 9600GT though). Else should be same as .05
     
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    www.laptopvideo2go.com

    More drivers to pick from here
     
  5. vaquin

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    okey thanks OC-freak i found it. OC-Freak what do you get on your 3dmark06 score?
     
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    6049 at 1024 x 768 resolution.
     
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    That is the newer version

    they are essentially the same in performance, but the newer drivers just add compatibility for more cards
     
  8. vaquin

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    ah okey then i understand! :)
     
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    Good to hear
     
  10. vaquin

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    Hmm i get a problem when i have booted in to xp after installation and try installing SATA Driver: IATA85cd.exe, i get the error, this computer does not have the recomended bla bla bla to install this program, installation has aborted.

    why?
     
  11. ath007

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    Yea. I had the same problem too. But i got it solved. It was mentioned in this thread itself, somewhere in the middle.

    Here is the link to the page. Its a Lenovo website hosting the Intel Matrix Storage Controller Drivers.
    http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-70477.html

    Thanks to Werewolfery for that.
     
  12. ath007

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    But for me another device doesnt have the right drivers. Modem on High Definition Audio Bus. Any ideas, anyone?

    I formatted and wiped out my vista partition. It was kinda sad though. One month with it seemed fun (with all the tinkering and stuff). But I knew i had to return back one day, cuz i didn't like it that much.

    Anyways, after this second format and installation of XP, i noticed that my sub woofer and speakers started squeeking/ screeching (more like tearing) when playing music on a high volume. Wonder if I should reinstall the drivers and check. Because this didn't happen on the first install of the drivers.

    I noticed some other 'issues' as well.
    > The Acer Crystal cam wont feature the 720P resolution.
    > Wallpapers that were zoomed in Vista, stretches out like dirty in XP, in the case that you are using lower resolution wallpapers than your native resolution. Vista seemed to handle that better.
    > XP features lower resolution customization in games, than Vista.
    > XP shows only 3GB of the 4. Well, thats already explained in the previous page (70) :p

    But XP is way faster and sturdier, it seems.

    Edit: And one another thing that i noticed. The sounds are loud now on low volume too. On VLC set on general volume and with system volume on maybe 3-4 bars in Vista is now like 1 bar and the lowest setting in VLC in XP. Now thats loud...

    Now for me, NEXT STOP: LINUX!
     
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    LOL
    Good luck with Linux, I'm sticking with Vista, SP2 is coming out soon :D

    As for the audio issue, try getting the latest drivers from Realtek's site
    They are supposed to fix the audio problems people have had with this laptop and XP

    It's somewhere in this thread but it'll take you time so trust me
    Get them from realtek's site IIRC

    Hope this helps
     
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    any help ? .... :p
     
  15. RaYYaN

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    I'm not sure

    Maybe from the options within a game??? :confused:
     
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    I got the latest drivers form Realtek's website itself. I guess i will do a small tinkering. Like i had said before, the sounds are visibly louder in XP than in Vista.
     
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    It's good that the sound is louder BUT this may be one reason that the sound isn't that clear, due to the loudness
     
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    yea, i guess that might be it, 'cuz the sound is more like 'tearing' when on high volumes. And another thing, the virtual 5.1 speaker setup is missing in XP, it was there in Vista. For a moment, i am killing myself.. :O comparing this and that to vista, something i cdnt stand for long ..LOL!!!
     
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    I downloaded the file from that link called "7zim57ww" for intel matrix storage controller drivers. Then i tried changing to ACHI in bios but windows wouldent start :S

    Still i cant install the normal sata drivers i got. what should i do?
     
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    Why not go back to vista then ;)
    All drivers are availible on the acer site, and I haven't actually had any issues

    Not too sure man
    I'm not familiar with XP on this laptop, I stuck to vista

    EDIT - I knew the solution was already posted so after som digging I found this post by Deks that should fix your issue with SATA if you follow the post correctly



    Good luck
     
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    Im sorry to say that this didint work either. Still got the same porblem that my system dosent support it or can't install it. It's really wierd because im now using the computer with IDE
     
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    The link Deks gave doesnt work. He himself confirmed it. So do this:

    1. Download from the link i gave you (The Lenovo Link)
    2. Run the file '7zim57ww' - This actually is an extraction, so when you click on it, remember the folder to which you do it.
    3. Go to the folder (On default it goes to C:\DRIVERS)
    and get to
    C:\DRIVERS\WIN\IMSM\PREPARE

    4. Enter PREPARE folder
    5. Click on INSTALL
    A small window pops up and goes. Thats it. The installation is over. Just wait for sometime for a settle.

    Now restart the computer and go to BIOS and change the HDD setup to 'AHCI'

    This is what i did and it works well for me.

    Cheers buddy! :)
     
  23. vaquin

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    Thank you Ath007, your help worked for me now! :)

    A question, why do you need to use ACHI instead of IDE? i mean it worked for me to play games, work etc in IDE mode aswell
     
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    I'm pretty sure it is to use the hard rive properly

    I mean to the maximum speed it can go and best performance
     
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    IMO, for XP, you don't need to enable AHCI. If there is any benefit to do so, it would be quite insignificant, like 1-2% performance gain. Me personally, I had it both ways and I see no difference in my hdd performance.
     
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    Yea exactly, but still better to have this 1-2% performance gain then none at all :)

    Im playing nfsu undercover and brother in arms hells highway in full graphic performance and it's perfect so far!

    When i was using vista i hade the score 5600 in 3dmark06 but now in xp i got 5712 so it seems i gained 112 points :), Any know any tricks to boost it over 6000?
     
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    Overclocking, anyone??? :p

    I wouldnt recommend it though, but for the 'boast factor', best thing to do. :D

    By the way, which of nVidia's drivers are you using Vaquin?
     
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    AHCI should be configured for VISTA to be installed and IDE should be configured for XP to be installed. If either one goes the opposite, the system wont boot or you will result with a BSOD(Blue screen of Death).

    I found this out when i just switched to IDE, when i had the Vista partition on. After switching to IDE, the system automatically finds no hard disk at first, then finds it in a short while, then tries automatic emergency repair, and there is no way you can cancel the operation other than the emergency shutdown (pressing and holding the power button for five seconds).

    Also, when you try to install Vista in IDE setting, you get the BSOD.

    FYI, AHCI (Advanced Host Controller Interface, i think) is an advanced setting for the system to detect storage devices like hard disks. Before it was all IDE (Integrated Drive Electronics). Now its all SATA and SATA II drives. So with the migration of OS's between XP to Vista, the vendors decided to migrate the infrastructure as well, thereby migrating support from IDE to SATA or you can say, AHCI inorder to make it more standardised. But the problem comes when we try to migrate back to previous versions on newer hardware or newer software (OS) to older hardware. You guys got the idea right?

    There wont be anything much of performance differences, its just the system compatibility that comes into account.

    Inorder to support this migration feature, vendors decided to release small softwares (BIOS tweaks) that we used here, so that Windows XP can work under SATA mode or say AHCI mode.

    SATA is just a small part of AHCI. Call it a conglomeration of various other support features for other latest hardware releases like there is Legacy PATA (the grandfather of harddisks, ones that were around some 5 years back. This feature is to support the latest systems, OS, memory etc. with those antiques), RAID, SATA I/II/III. AHCI is host to so many other features as well.

    Hope i explained it well. :)
     
  29. vaquin

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    Ah okey. Im using right now the 179.28 Nvidia driver for xp. I get 5712 score in 3dmax06, i have so far tried Brother in arms: hells highway and Nfsu undercover and im actually installing GTA IV right now to test how that works. I don't think it will preform that good since GTA IV is very CPU demanding.

    What score did you get?
     
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    Yep

    It's actually possible using software and the 179.28 drivers, there is a guide somewhere in this thread telling how to overclock, and also some tips for when overclocking
     
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    @ RaYYaN
    You meant 179.28 drivers right? :p
    well the latest from nVidia is 179.48. Thats what i got.
     
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    Well im not a professional at computers i know some but not much. I really want to increase my preformance but still if the risks are to high that i could damage the computer i wouldent take it. ;(
     
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    Yes im using the 179.28 driver. Isint this 179.48 a beta version?

    I just think it would be more stable to use a driver wich is not a beta. The 179.48 is only more compatible with more versions, correct me if im wrong!
     
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    Tis what I posted ;) ;) (I love edits :p)

    The main risk is the possibility of high temperatures, to be safe get a program like HWMonitor and keep it running while you play games, note tha max temps and post them here
    Also, keep it running when ever you do something intensive, just to be safe :)

    If you overclock too much the card can become unstable and cause crashes and BSODs
    This card is already powerful so I don't see the need to overclock just to increase FPS by a small amount
    however, you can OC in order to improve your 3DMark 06 score, then go back to stock clocks ;)

    Also, if you're not too sure don't start at once read up on overclocking there is also some info here
    If you feel you can do it go ahead with it, but tell us your max temps reached when gaming before

    I may OC, but I plan on getting a cooler first

    Hope this helps
    (if it does rep me :D :D )

    EDIT -
    Even 179.28 is listed as BETA on their site, both are stable AFAIK
    and according to most people the only difference is increased compatibility w/ more cards
     
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    but i believe OC should be done when its like 3 or so years old. Overclocking can really reduce the life of the graphics chip and card even if you know what you are doing. If you plan to use this laptop on the short term, well then i think you should use it to the maximum. :p

    I might as well try 'overclocking' by using modified drivers like DoX. The latest version is heard to be something. Will have to try that out.

    @vaquin
    I havent got a 3Dmark 6 software, so i cant give any result right now, but i did love to.
     
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    Not quite. Take NCQ for example. In order to use this function of a SATA HDD you HAVE TO have AHCI enabled and SATA drivers installed. This is what I had in mind when I said that there might be a 1-2% performance gain when using AHCI mode.
     
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    Oh hey, thanks for the info. You are right on that one, i forgot about that actually :D. :)
     
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    All the people who installed Dox 182.05 driver on their 5930g. What driver install setting did you all choose:

    Quality, balance or performance?

    Also do you get 1280x800 resolution ?

    **

    Also when gaming after about 40mins of playing dead space, my temps are up to 90C for TZS0 and TZS1 and my P7350 hit 92C and 9600m GT 92C.

    Does everyones processor get very hot while gaming? pretty much reaches the same temp that the gpu reaches ??
    thanks
     
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    i installed it on balance and i get 1280x800..i have no problem with the temperature.highest for gpu is 76c and for cpu 75c..no problem at all.sorry for bad english.
     
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    ^^ Thanks, What about everyone else? Did everyone else install on balance?

    Also I found this app that supports half mulipliers and so supports p7350 and lets you undervolt the cpu to reduce temps.

    Its - http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalCPUID/index-e.html

    I couldn't get it to work tho, if anyone else wants to try it ?
     
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    getting there Kallogan. Another 142 points to go to beat my 6963. I think I might try thos Dox drivers and see what happens. Awesome temp there btw. :eek:
    Also, if you want to increase your shaders try lowering you core from 680 to 650. This allowed me to up my shaders above 1700 and max my score. :D
    Hope you're still around to continue the competition till RaYYan smokes us with his superior CPU. :eek:
     
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    Can't seem to find a site to get these Dox drivers from. Anyone got a link?
     
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    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
    That;s waaay high man

    My temps looked like that before I cleaned my laptop.
    They shouldn't be that high
    After cleaning when I play dead space my GPU is in the 60s and CPU is in 50/60s
    Dead Space is one of the coolest running games on my rig

    How long have you had it???
    Have you cleaned it????

    Thanks man
    I'm planning to keep this for a while so I splurged more of my allowance (most of I'd saved up) to get the best specs available here :D :D

    Still trying to get my hands on 3DMark06 (I'm on dial-up)

    Go here for all of DoX's releases, choose which ever one tickles your fancy

    Tell me how the DoX drivers go, I may upgrade from 179.28

    Glad to see more people on the thread ;) ;)
     
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    Rayyan, i've only had it bout a month,

    I did open it up and removed the cooler, and there was no dust there. haven't checked thermal compound or stuff like that tho,

    My GPU is Overclocked to 650/1625/950, via hardware overclock, so these clocks might be why I have high temps? what you think ?

    I'm pretty sure it was 70C on stock clocks? what clocks u using?

    Also what settings do u use when you play dead space? Do you have it on 1280x800 and high? vsync on ?
     
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    It def the overclock
    You should cut back to stock or lower than what you have, or get a cooler
    Such high temps can seriously damage your notebook over time

    I have stock clocks, but my temps were high before cuz of dust
    See this thread for pics of the heatsink
    The worst pics are on page 3

    I play dead space at 1280x800 and settings on medium/high
    I have V-sync on so that lag is removed when I use my controller
    AA is off though

    Test the card with stock clocks, also now you can simply overclock using software
     
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    I just tried 182.05 (Dox) and I didn't like it as much as 179.28.

    In my far cry 2 benchmark the average fps was 4 fps higher, but it had a lot more framerate drops occuring than in 179.28. 179.28 seemed smoother.

    think im going back
     
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    Cool
    Thanks for the info man

    (+ rep)
     
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    Whats better between 179.28 and 179.48 any benchmarks between these?
     
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    Threads on this forum and elsewhere show that performance is identical

    The only difference is some small bug fixes and increased compatibility for more cards (7 series and 130M series)

    I'm just too lazy to upgrade
     
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