Acer Aspire 5930(G) owner thread

Nope, I never had this problem on CoD4 MP, and I also have Vista 32-bit.
Not sure about drivers, but I am using the stock drivers that came with the pre-installed version of Vista (haven't re-installed anything)

 

Rayyan i have exactly the same config as yours,but when try to open mp it crashes! Sp worked fine no probs.Btw it wasnt a legit copy... will dat b the problem?

 

You should look at this Rayyan :

http://laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=24326

There are links where you can hypothetically buy mxm II HD 4650 ddr2 or HD 4670 gddr3 (900 mhz memory ???) which are acer spare parts...To be followed.

 

Mine was the same
Worked but it doesn't connect to servers
No crashes though

Kallogan :
How did you overclock your card, need some info on that
Program ???? How much to increase by initially and what not
Cheers

 

If 4670 Mobile turns out to be MXM-II it would be a worthy investment.
Getting the 4650 though doesn't seem like a viable or cost-effective option despite it's smaller manuf. process.
9600m GT isn't that bad in terms of heat anyway ... so I'd look into HD4670 GDDR3 or GDDR5 (if applicable) for a potential upgrade if it comes in MXM-II flavor.

Still low on money here and without a job in London ... so I won't be buying any upgrades for the foreseeable time.
Perhaps if my situation improves by the end of the year.

I still haven't found a solution for my imaging problem that happens when I turn on the laptop or just re-activate the screen from sleep mode.
For now, opening/closing the lid seems to work.
I just hope it's not the gpu that's going problematic on me.

 

First, try a software OC with Nvidia system tools :
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=24256

it should enable overclocking in the nvidia control panel.

If it doesn't work, you'll have to flash your gpu bios and that's a little more complicated.

 

I'll give it a go, but I thought you overclocked using Rivatuner, because I know how to use that

Just wondering how much to increase clocks by initially

 

i didn't try Rivatuner since it works perfectly with Nvidia system tools for me.

When i just got my lap, the only way to OC the 9600M GT was the bios flashing....Now i guess there are lots of working OC tools (like Rivatuner...) which have been updated to support 9600M GT.

Try 540/1350/850 for example as a safe start if you're afraid to go too high.
Watch your temps...During 3Dmarks benchs i guess you'll stay under 80°C, however keep in mind that you'll probably hit the 90°C or more during long gaming sessions on demanding games if you don't rise the back of your lap or use a cooler.

For example, with my current clocks (580/1450/900), after one hour of Mass effect on a table i hit 92°C. With the back risen up, only 86°C max.

 

I get up to 625/1700/1000 in my 5520g with 9600m GT:

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=11248655

 

The black screen zone is around 660/1650/950 for most of us during 3Dmarks benchies....Knowing the fact that for me it begins to crash often above 600/1500/900 in real games (not in all games but still !)

 

Every card will be different of course. Mine seems quite happy, it will do a little more but I backed off (650/1800/1025) as it was not 100% stable.

I don't know what the cooling system in the 5930G is like.

In the 5520G you have one heatsink to the CPU/NB/PWM and another for th gfx, both with heatpipes to the vent where they have an array of fins which the main fan blows through both.

Any chance you could post your 06 score?

 

so you scored only 6542. Not bad but Not impressive at all ;-)

650/1800/1025 ????? Impressive ! What was your score with such clocks ????

 

Remember I am using an older AMD CPU. Partly why I wanted a compare link to see how the tests differ between the two.

If I find a TL-68 I might grab it.

 

Yeah but i anticipated your response in fact i looked to your cpu score before saying that ;-) And guess what 1733 pts is exactly the same score than my cpu (1740 for me). Maybe a drivers difference then.



Rayyan i know you can hit 7000 pts. I believe in you ;-) Night night !

 

I see
My GPU hits around 85 on stock clocks, so first I'll undervolt teh CPU then start OCing gradually. and see how far I can go
I'm also planning to buy/build a notebook cooler for this thing

This is stock 3Dmark using Dox's 186.xx drivers
My CPU score is 2K

 

P processors are the best for undervolting. Some of them are stable with less than 1.0 v on the highest multiplicator ;-) You may get awesome low temps.

 

Ok guys, just spent a decent amount of time today undervolting my proc

So far I have successfully undervolted the highest multiplier (x8) ~2.1GHz [100MHz below normal due to downclocking by RM CPU Utility ]

The stock voltage was 1.1125v, and I followed flipfire's guide to the dot.
Maximum temperatures when testing at stock voltage were 70°C and 66°C after running ORTHOS tests of ~10 mins each
Thumbs of results:


All was stable as I reduced and tested until I reduced the clocks from 0.9375v to 0.9125v, while stress testing this produced my laptop's first ever BSOD

Increased the voltage a little to 0.9250 (between the two) and this was stable after ~50 mins

I decided to stick with 0.9375 as my final value and after ~3 hrs stress testing using ORTHOS the max temp reached was 55
Result:


So overall I was able to reduce the voltage by 0.175v (1.125 > 0.9375), and this dropped my temps by 15-11°C (70/66 > 55)

This image confirms my voltage using CPU-Z 1.4:


I plan on undervolting all multipliers tomorrow, to improve all temps and battery life

I think that is awesome
Off to play a game for a while and see how much my temps fall by under load when gaming.
Will update when I'm done

 

That's great, it's just too bad that RM utility doesn't support half multiplicator... the downclocking will affect a little your performances but maybe it's worth it cause it'll allow a better gpu OC ( at least a better margin of temps)

I can't go below 1.05v with my T5800, my stock voltage was 1.250v. 0,9375v is awesome. I Definitely love P processors ;-) P9600 (with no half multiplicator !!) will be mine one day...

 

Or T9600

Will overclock tomorrow if I get the chance

Working on learning how to use GIMP ATM

 

RaYYaN you wioll try overclock you cpu one a acer 5930 ? just forget it... there is no way for it....

 

I don't know of any way to OC CPU, but would like to if I get a chance

I will OC my GPU soon

 

Hey i've tried to undervolt my gpu by flashing the bios for the fun :



On the picture, you can see the original voltages.
I've put 0,89V even in the "extra box" ;-) Will see if it's stable. For the moment i got exactly same score at 3dmarks (5680 pts) with stock clocks. Will try some ingame to see if temps are lower ;-)

Another benchmark with 560/1400/900 : 6200 points (exactly same as before undervolting) and no crash
Gpu temp is stuck at 75°C lol

Yeahhhh 83°C instead of 91°C in Brothers in arms : Hell's highway (with 560/1400/900 on table). No crash, no lags or artefacts. I will continue my tests but that's impressive for the moment.

 

I agree.
Nicely done.
Undervolting the GPU seems to be working nicely in your case (I might just give it a go myself).
Although, please post the instructions on how you did it exactly, and of course info on how to restore to previous voltages just in case the new settings don't take.

Btw everyone ... I've been playing with CrystalCPUID in order to try and undervolt my P7350 cpu.
I was able to lower the maximum multiplier (7.5) from 1.250 V to 1.050 V (Orthos was encountering errors on lower voltages).
Now the issue I'm having is that even though CPU-Z registers that the max. multiplier is on 1.050 V, the temperatures remained unaffected (they still climb to previous levels).

I have no explanation really as to why this is happening.
Undervolting should be able to reduce the temps one way or the other, and I don't see the effect taking place.
Anyone else encountered a similar issue?

 

Well, i've tested my gpu again and that's crazy. I believed it would have crashed during games but it's perfectly stable and i can even overclock without a problem !!!!

This morning i've played Brothers in arms on stock clocks. I used to get 91°C max on that game even with stock clocks after 45 minutes of gaming.
Believe it or not, this morning i got 79°C after same gaming duration. 79°C on the gpu and 75°C on cpu. Unbelievable especially without rising up the back of the lap.

Yesterday in the same conditions with 560/1400/900 i got 83°C on gpu and 79°C on cpu. It's a little higher but it's extremely low for an overclocking without cooling pad or rising up. I used to get rocket high 92°C.

I have no other games to try for the moment but that seems encouraging.

Deks i didn't like CrystalCPUID or Cpugenie even if they support half multiplicator. RMclock is the best for me (i have no half multiplicator ;-)), the temps differences are obvious and they're no loss of performances (unlike cpugenie in my case which lowers my cpu score from 1700 to 1500 and gives me anarchical temps).

 

Futhermore, it's weird that you can't go below 1,05V with a P processor. But after all, each processor is different. If you use RMclock your processor will be downclocked to 1,86 ghz (x7) but it will really work. And maybe with less than 1.00v. ;-)

Concerning gpu undervolting, i'll post the method later if you really want to try cause it's a little complicated, you have to create a usb boot key, modify your gpu bios with nibitor and then flash it on dos mode with nvflash...

But hey !!! I can now play during canicular days without overheating (or at least not as fast as before) ;-) Not to mention that performances seem more constant during long gaming sessions when you stay below 90°C.

A P9600 (10x !!!) and a SSD and I'll be totally Green

Other subject, i've seen that our original battery is a 6 cells 4400 mAh. Since i've undervolted my cpu, it lasts about 2 hours when i'm just browsing the web or watch a standard definition video.
I saw on Acer store that they sell 8 cells 4800 mAh batterys for 5930Gs. With such a battery we might go on the 3 hours ;-) Not bad for a notebook that big.

 

Yeah
8-cell FTW

the temp drop you got by undervolting the GPU is great, but I don't want to flash the vBios ATM

Deks, I used RMclock to UV and got to .9375v fully stale, and temps dropped by more than 15C.
I haven't even noticed the 100mhz drop in speed, tinkering with RMClock ATM, and read somewhere that it does support the half multiplier somehow

 

RMClock doesn't support half-multipliers.
The point is after reducing the voltage that nothing really changed temperature wise.
CPU Genie didn't even want to install here on my OS (x64).
CrystalCPUID works with half-multipliers, but despite the undervolting (and no underclocking) the temps remain identical.
It just doesn't make any sense.

I can try to test with lower voltages, although I doubt it will affect anything.

 

Yeah that is what we said we're aware of that . The point is it doesn't mean that you can't use it.

Secondly, have you done your tests with your cooling pad active ? Maybe temps drop aren't that obvious with a cooling pad already doing the same job...don't know. Still it should be visible even with it i guess...

I've just read that SSDs do not improve battery life (more or less same power consumption than 2,5" 5400 rpm HDDs...). Not to mention that HDD consumption is insignificant compared to CPU or GPU. So I'm sad ;-)

 

BTW if you guys take the decision one day to flash your gpu bios for whatever reasons (overclocking, undervolting...). Here's a link well explained about how to proceed from A to Z. ;-)

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22286

 

I avoid RMClock because I don't want to underclock my cpu exactly because it would do that.
Besides, on one occasion I actually tried to use RMClock, and again, temperatures were unaffected.
I also tested the thing with both the cooler active and without it.
Temps rise by 20 degrees under load in ORTHOS regardless of what I do to it.

It would appear that setting the highest multiplier (7.5) to a minimum voltage of 1.038 (just like it's set for the lowest multiplier [6.0] ) actually doesn't decrease the temperatures ... in turn, ORTHOS reports an error after stress testing the cpu on that voltage ... but if I set the highest multiplier (7.5) to 1.050 V, Orthos works fine, HOWEVER, the temps again were unaffected and exactly the same as if the highest multiplier was on 1.250 V.

It really doesn't make any sense.
Then again, my lowest mulitplier (6) cannot go below 1.038 V for some reason.
Have the Voltages in P7350 been locked by any chance through hardware on it's own so I cannot go below?
I mean, while possible, it's certainly stupid for a newer generation cpu to have such a limitation ... especially when you take into consideration that temperatures are unaffected despite the voltages I set.

It's ridiculous.

 

Hmmm that seems strange
I undervolted to .9375 and it ran stable after testing with ORTHOS for 3 hrs straight

I noticed a big drop in temps and still do even when gaming
Strrange that your won't go that low or reduce your temps

My load temps don't even hit 80 anymore

Kallogan - I plan on upgrading my drive too a 500GB 5K drive soon

 

Ok ... let's do that one again

I took some spare time to do separate tests.
Max. multiplier 7.5 set to stock 1.250 V
ORTHOS test 'Blend' (Priority 1)
Time Duration of the test : 6 mins and 30 seconds
Temperatures: Core 0 (71 degrees) Core 1 (73 degrees)

Same test with Max. multiplier 7.5 set to 1.050 V
ORTHOS test = Blend (Priority 1)
Time Duration of the test: 6 minutes and 30 seconds
Temperatures: Core 0 (61 degrees) Core 1 (63 degrees) (although they were at 64 degrees for a minute or so before lowering to 61/63 after 6 mins and 30 seconds).

So it would appear that I HAVE experienced a decrease in temperatures ... 10 degrees for the most part with some room for variation ... but up to 10 degrees nonetheless.

I'm still using CrystalCPUID ...
The only drawback is I still haven't figured out how to set the new multipliers voltages automatically.
For example ... when idling (without undervolting), the cpu downclocks to 1.5 Ghz and voltage goes down to 1.038 V.
I can set the individual multiplier for example to work at all times at a specific voltage, but how do I apply multiple multiplier settings and their voltages to kick in when needed in CrystalCPUID?

'RaYYaN'
Your cpu doesn't have half-multipliers for one thing, and quite possibly you got one of those cpu's where you can go very low with the voltages compared to other cpu's.
Mine appears to be the unlucky limited one ... however, still not too bad considering the 10 degrees drop I got.

 

Mine does have a half multiplier x8.5, while RMClock sees only x8 so since the undervolt my CPU is running at ~2.1Ghz instead of 2.2

Also, I don't know how to save settings in CPUID sorry

 

has someone find a way to overclock p7350??

 

Guys, how did you manage to install audio drivers for windows 7? I'd like the subwoofer to work but the drivers from acers site won't install.

 

Hey there.
I just found this forum while googling for xp drivers...but now I can't decide between experimenting xp or 7 in my laptop.

Right now it's running default Vista but I would like to see how much better this Acer would run on XP. Since 7 is lighter than Vista, I wanna try it too

Has anyone tried both os's ? If so, wich one did you recomend and why?

Thanks!

 

Hi everyone!I've also bought a acer 5930g!It was my father's gift for christmas!
At first I loved it!It played almost anything I wanted in high specs!
But then it started to have a problem:everytime I started playing,after 30 minutes,it started to lag!and if stayed playing it lageed every 5 minutes!!
I google it and there was a tip here in this forum that I followed:clean the vents!well it solved one problem:the idle temperatures dropped:an average of 55 ºC in both cores and gpu.But when I start playing it raises to 90+ on gpu and 85 on cpu!Please I really need help!If someone could help me I would be glad!(sorry for my english..I'm a bit rusty on it now..=) )

 

If it lags that's cause of the temps for sure. So if cleaning is done there are many other solutions :

One : Just rise the back of your lap to improve the air flow when you're playing games. Your temps should lower by about 5-8 degrees.

Two : If it's not enough, you can undervolt your cpu and lower its temp, it will impact on your gpu temp too cause of the linked cooling system. look here how to proceed :

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=235824&highlight=undervolting+guide

Three : Last possibility is undervolting your gpu. It's a little complicated but I lost 10 degrees with that.


Oh i almost forgot : You can buy a cooling pad too ;-) but it's not free ;-)

 

i tried to undervolt my gpu too, but after flash i do not noticed any temp drop, can please you post your modded bios so i can see the differences with mine?? tanks...

 

I've put 0,89V even in the extra box (1,05V--->0,89V), that's all. The difference of temp is huge for me (at least combined with cpu undervolting)

Tests with stock clocks playing a very demanding game on a table :

1) Cpu undervolting only : Gpu hit 92°C max !!!! (not enough air flow)
2) No Cpu undervolting and Gpu undervolting : Gpu hit 92°C max !!!! (my crappy cpu heats a lot without undervolting and not enough air flow again !!!)
3)Cpu undervolting and Gpu undervolting combined : Gpu hit 83°C max !!! (it's the magic combination i guess, even at 620/1550/800, gpu temp is stuck at 83-84°C despite the low air flow)

4)No undervolting (neither cpu nor gpu) : Gpu hit 92°C max or even a little more (Total overheating !!!! )

That's a fact. I've played a lot this week for hours on 2 different games with high clocks. I've checked framerate and temps all the time. Not even a little black screen, that's very strange, the gpu seems more stable than before...not very logical ;-)

With my homemade laptop support which rise up the back of the lap combined with undervolting, i always stay in the 70s degress...that's the Alaska 5930G ;-)

 

I've got a cooler pad!thanks for the help kallogan!I hope it solves it!Is it normal to have this temps on this particular laptop?

 

Ok, that's good. Let us know if it solves the problem. I'm curious cause i've never experienced heavy lagging even in the 90s degrees.

And yeah, I guess it's more or less normal to have such temps on very demanding games. The air flow under the lap is sometimes insufficient especially during canicular days. It's easy to see cause when you rise the lap from a few centimeters, temps considerably lower. It may depends on the processor you've got on your 5930G too. A P processor might heat less than a T. And each lap is different even among same models...Some 5930Gs heat more than others ;-)

 

The temps are more or less as they should be ... although it depends what types of games you are playing of course, and if the surface on which the laptop is located is flat.

Undervolting is pretty great in my personal opinion ... and I personally recommend using it to reduce the temps ... especially in scorching weather.

Kallogan ... I noticed you undervolted the cpu to 1.05v ... same like me actually.
I will definitely give it a go and undervolt the gpu as well.

Instructions please.

 

Oh man!Undervolting rocks!!My max temp at full throttle on my cpu is 77ºC!yeah!I've got the cooler and the cpu undervolt!Next step:undervolt gpu!But I'll need help!Hope you could help me kallogan...
Thanks for the help so far...

 

Cpu undervolting is great but Cpu and Gpu combined undervolting is totally magic ;-)

Gpu flashing method is here : http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22286

except that instead of changing clocks, you'll have to change the voltages only when you'll edit your gpu bios in Nibitor ;-) Look at the picture below. Try the method and ask me if there's something you don't understand in it ;-)



Stock voltage in the "extra" box is 1,05V. You can either choose 0,89V or 1V as a safer choice. Of course Gpu temp will be lower with 0,89V than with 1V. ;-)

Deks, yes i'm 1,05V cause RMclock doesn't allow me to go below. Anyways i don't think a T processor would be stable under that voltage. Zero crash, perfectly stable

 

sorry kallogan but the link you've just gave me is the cpu undervolting..there's nothing there about the gpu:s

 

Yeah my mistake, i've edited.

 

do i need gpuz??isn't it just to oveclock the graphic card?
Also is there any problem using de nvidia drivers instead of the dox's one that you use?
thanks

 

yeah you need gpu-z to extract your gpu bios. Yeah the method explain how to overclock but it's exactly the same process for undervolting. Again, only the Nibitor step differ (changing voltages instead of clocks). That's all, the rest is identical.

Drivers are not important.

 

ok i've opened Nibitor!and i'm on the voltage section...Is it safe to put the same voltage as you have?I don't to screw this up...:s
And those he mean with"Once you have decided on your new clock speeds click : File -> Save Bios -> [save as OC] make sure it is saved in the .rom extension"??