Acer Aspire 5930(G) owner thread

No ... for games, the cache doesn't really matter.
It would probably matter if you were doing something in a program such as 3d Studio Max.

For games, the P7350 cpu will be enough.
The 9600m GT GDDR3 is still inside that laptop so you won't have an issue as far as games are concerned.
True, in certain games that rely a bit more on the cpu, the fps would be greater by about 5 to 10 fps if you had P9500 instead of P7350 ...
But as I said, with the native res of 1280x800, the 9600m GT GDDR3 will be able to handle virtually any game maxed out (provided of course the anti-aliasing isn't used, or is set on low).

Upgrades are definitely possible.
Even the gpu is upgradeable if I'm not mistaken because it's MXMII.

In any case, you can definitely upgrade the cpu/hdd/ram in this laptop.
I will be doing that soon most likely (just the ram and hdd in my case).
The cpu on the other hand is adequate for now, so I don't see any major reason to upgrade to P9500 for example given the fact I wouldn't really gain that much (aside from working in 3ds Max).
Perhaps later when prices for that particular cpu go down, or if one of the more powerful cpu options becomes much more affordable.

 

Yeah, but would the laptop be able to handle and cool a more powerful card, like say a 9800???

I am also planning to replace my 250GB 5.4K drive with a 320GB 7200 RPM drive
But isn't the RAM the laptop comes with good enough??

@kisko - Sorry for referring to you as a he, kinda hard to tell on the interent

 

thanks alot Deks
well if everything can be upgraded then i will go see if i can find it even with the low processor i will get it
and Rayyan no problem

 

please dont think me stupid buthow do i check what the chipset is? i know that i have P7350 but not sure if thas what you mean....

 

I don't perceive questions as stupid.
Go to: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

download Cpu-z and use it to check your chipset.
After that go to Intel's website and download the sata drivers (if you find them) for that mobile chipset.

As I said, I think generic sata drivers (intel matrix storage device) exist that can be used with any computer ... I just don't know where to find them ... will consult with a colleague of mine on that subject).

RaYYaN

On the topic if the laptop would be able to cool the more powerful gpu ...
That's a good question.
But I don't think it would be an issue if the newer card would be MXMII, was produced in a smaller manuf. process than 9600m GT (which means it would produce less heat by default) and you take steps to further cool down the laptop (such as putting a more efficient thermal paste on the cpu, undervolting the cpu, getting a laptop cooler, etc ...).
The cooling in my 5930G is already 10 deg C lower thanks to the Zalman NC2000B.
CPU is on 70 deg C under max load ... and the gpu on 61 deg C under max load (I'd say those are pretty good results).

I got the P7350 version of the laptop (UK only has this particular version) which came with 3GB ram (which is why I want to replace the 1GB inside with 2GB so I can max out the ram).
As for the hdd, yes a 320GB 7200rpm hdd was what I thought about as well.
a western digital one ... scorpio black if I'm not mistaken.
Should provide some boost as far as data transfer and loading is concerned.
Although to tell you the truth I'd rather get an even larger 7200 rpm hdd if possible for a similar price tag ... just not sure it's possible (yet)

 

thanks dude it all worked but i still cant seem to find the right drivers... i did have one xp that supposedly had the drivers built in but it still didnt work so im giving up and going back up to vista...... maybe theyll get it working right some day lol.. thanks anyway

 

Hey guys is it possible to get the 5930 in USA?

 

hey guys,tried to use force ware for nvidia driver 180.24 but the results from 3d mark 06 is worst than 178.24.Did anyone of 5930 owner tried 180.24 ?

 

OMG i got it *dances*
i'm soooo happy
got p8400 2.26 3mb cache 1066 fsb
but it has no fingerprint
actually it was the last one in virgin so i said if i dont get it i may not find it again so i got it XD
now it asks me if i want to make recovery on a disc,i have to do it before formatting and putting xp?

 

I would suggest you use Dox's 180.70. drivers.
Also keep in mind that there is no real correlation between 3dMark06 scores and actual gaming performance.

'kikso'

Making recovery discs is entirely up to you.
I would sooner delete most of the Acer programs apart from the recovery and crystal-eye camera.
Optimize the OS, deactivate services you don't use and all, clean out the garbage, THEN make a backup of the existing state.

I would use a different program for making an actual ghost file of the C drive if anything.
It's simpler if you ask me.

 

the important thing for me is to now put all the programs installations on a dvd because i will format it now and i want to have everything that was in it and then choose what to use and what not
how can i do that?

 

Well you need a burning program for one thing.
But I think Vista can burn things on a dvd for you as well.
If we are talking about simple program execution files, then it should be a simple task to bundle them up onto a single dvd.

Just make sure you download all of the drivers for the hardware inside the laptop for XP.
Go into device manager, check all of the relevant hardware names/numbers (chipset as well by using cpu-z) and download the XP drivers from the manufacturers websites.
You should be able to find most, if not all of them (although check the first page of this thread ... I think there are links to all of the necessary drivers).

 

ok i made a backup on a dvd it is 8gb is it right or is smthg missing?(with the program acer erecovery management,i chose back up drivers and applications to cd/dvd)
now i tried to put xp and it gave me error,can you please explain to me what to do?
and they didnt give me any cds or anything with the laptop,are they supposed to give me a cd with it?

 

No ...
The XP is probably giving you an error because of the missing SATA drivers (for your hdd).

The trick is to find proper STA drivers, load them up as XP install disc boots up and then perform the installation.
Or you can disable AHCI in BIOS, install XP, download and then install SATA drivers.

As for the backup dvd ... not sure really ... I think you backed up the drivers and applications, but not the OS itself if I'm not mistaken (although I could be).

 

ok well i will take the laptop for them tomorrow and ask them if they can put the xp because i'm afraid i might do something wrong
ok now i know what you mean,you mean factory recovery,the problem is that its 8 gb and i can't put it on the hard i have to put it on a dvd,and i dont know is it going to work if i put half on a dvd and half on another or i have to put it all in 1 dvd?
and the sound i don't know if i have a problem in it or is it just normal,the right side of the sound keep buzzing when there is a high sound
so if its not the same with you then i should tell them tomorrow to check it too,and the dvd drive too
each time i hold the laptop from under it,the plastic under it makes a cracking sound and go inside then come out

 

There is a question if they will want to install XP on your computer.
See the problem is that many stores that sell computers don't want to bother with this kind of issues because your laptop came pre-installed with Vista already.
Most of the time you are better off doing it on your own.
You cannot mess anything up really as you are only doing an installation of XP.
Your job is to be prepared before you actually go through with the installation.
Which means you must get your hands on SATA drivers, and the remaining XP drivers for the devices inside the laptop so they would work properly.

The only real issue are the SATA drivers ... as I cannot locate the generic drivers that can be used on any computer.
XP drivers can be found on the manufacturer's websites (and will often come in latest versions).

Btw ... a general heads up:
I just installed SP2 for Vista.
Everything seems to be working nicely thus far.
Haven't really noticed any performance increases just yet ... but I haven't been doing anything major really.
On a bright note I seem to have recovered about 10GB of my hard drive space.
That's nice.
Although I cannot be sure if that was done thanks to the service pack or the inbuilt vista cleaning utility I ran using the command prompt.

Either way ... for now, the system appears to be stable.
Also, I'm using Dox's 180.70 drivers.
I don't have issues with the laptop waking up from 'sleep' mode, and performance seems to be pretty good.
Temperatures aren't any higher than on stock drivers that came with the OS.
So I'd say, it's good (for now).

Although I really think I will install XP Pro SP3 instead of Vista and just wait until Windows 7 gets released.

 

ok i will go ask them in a bit
if they said they cant format it then i will ask them to give me the drivers for it,and the sata
now what about the sound and the cracking thing?everyone has it or just me?

 

i would if i were you.... ive had a lot of problems with the xp install so i went back to vista and it made it a lot easier having the disks because despite vistas annozing problems it does work pretty well on these computers....

 

Congrats

@ Deks - When your laptop first came, what were the partitions and how big were they???
Because I had two 110Gb partitions (along with the hidden recovery partition)

@ kisko - Can you give us some more details, about the wierd sounds you're getting???

Also, why do all of you want to install XP so much?????
I mean I know vista isn't the best, but after a month of using it I got used to it. I don't like some aspects of it but overall I think one can live with it.

 

Hm ... there is a possibility they will tell you it's not possible to put XP on it for one reason or another (lack of support for new hardware ... which is complete garbage btw since XP supports new hardware as Vista does).

If they do that, tell them you won't accept 'no' for an answer and that all they need to do is get the SATA drivers that will allow XP to be installed on your machine first and foremost, and that all of the necessary drivers for the devices inside the laptop can be found on the manufacturers websites.
As a side note, check the first page of this thread because I think someone posted links to all necessary XP drivers.

If they tell you that it can be done by yourself, just retort with a statement that you'd prefer them to do it.
Although as I said before, doing it on your own (installing XP) is probably the best.
Note: if you can get them to find/give you SATA and all XP drivers, all the better.
But keep in mind that 5930G only comes with Vista pre-installed. As a result, Acer doesn't keep XP drivers on their website (which is probably where the service guys will look).

Sometimes stores love to prey on people's lack of knowledge in the computer area and tell you contradicting statements.
If you have any other questions, let us know (although a rep or two would be nice ).

In regards to the cracking sound ... hm, I don't seem to experience such an issue on my laptop.
Then again, it depends on how you define 'cracking sound'.
I will say that the sound apparently has a tendency of degrading itself (the quality) here and there (it's not regular, although it happens at times while watching videos and surfing the web ... it does correct itself after a bit though).
Is that what you are experiencing?
If yes, then I can tell you, I have the same issue. There's a possibility it's a driver related problem, or the OS.
Or it could be the sound card itself. I don't know, but I would sooner look at the issue by trying to update the drivers and then if nothing software related works, move on to suspecting the hardware itself.

 

My partitions were 110Gb large each.
I guess Acer divided them equally (which is not what I do usually).
I will probably go back to XP Pro SP3 soon and set the C partition to be about 40 GB.

On the subject of returning to XP ...
I also grew accustomed to Vista after using it for a while.
I just don't see the overall advantages.
It takes up more space than XP, it can be laggy at times and problematic with some older software.
Plus it takes just under 2 minutes to boot now with SP2 (took about 96 seconds before it).

From my perspective, Vista doesn't really offer anything new over XP, and it's less compatible with some older software I personally use (not to mention it does pretty much everything XP does while being a much larger resource hog ... which from my perspective is simply inefficient).

I will probably make the switch when Windows 7 (while based on Vista is a much less resource hog, takes up less space and actually holds larger innovations) comes out ... but until then, I'll most likely return to XP (which can be made to look like Vista in every aspect).

 

This model isn't anywhere on Acer's U.S site nor have I seen it here anywhere though they still have the previous 5920 model up.

Did Acer not decide to see this model here and instead focus on the 6930 model instead?

 

Maybe, you might be right.

It's strange that it's not on the US site but is on the global one.
The 5930 is the successor of the 5920, and maybe they still want to sell 5920s in the states???
Not too sure just a thought

 

thx alot for all of you for help
well they helped me with the recovery and about the sata we tried to put xp first it gave error then we changed the choice in sata and the xp installation continued but he stoped it because they are not allowed to put xp on if i didnt buy it
so i will download the xp drivers and then change the sata choice then install xp then install the drivers,i hope it works
and i hate vista because its slooooow and it keeps freezing,the internet explorer everytime i open many tabs it gives (not responding) and i have to end it and start it again
for the sound,there is a noise in the sound on the right side
the cracking is another thing (not related with the sound)the plastic under the dvd is a little thin so if i press on it it makes a cracking sound and goes in and come out again,but when i asked them they said its normal
so if the xp works i will tell you
btw when is the windows 7 coming out?

 

I found the SATA drivers for 5930G.
I can probably direct you to all of the necessary drivers for XP.
Granted, you will have to install XP first by disabling AHCI in BIOS and then install the sata drivers in Windows.

But I think you can also extract the inf. files, put them on the usb stick and load them from there (without disabling AHCI in bios).

I think I will put XP SP3 as well (kept putting it off for some reason).
Ever since I put SP2 on Vista, my boot time jumped from about 88 seconds to 138 seconds.
I optimized, cleaned out, defragmented (not just the whole system but boot files as well) and did just about everything else to Vista in order to make it operate faster (I also only have 2 small progs starting up with Vista ... my Nod32 and touch-pad).
Alas, it's not working (for whatever reason).
I think partial responsibility goes to the 5400rpm drive, but again, for the boot times to be so drastically high is still strange.
Even XP booted up about 45 seconds on my old laptop (which has regular ATA 5400rpm hdd).

Truly I cannot see any performance gains with SP2 on Vista (then again, it's still a beta).

As for Windows 7 ... if I'm not mistaken, it's been stated that it should come out in April 2009.


So we won't have to wait long.

 

omg can you tell me where you found the sata drivers?
and tell me if win xp works coz i will not do it before tomorrow night

 

Here are the SATA drivers:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...&OSFullName=Windows* XP Professional&lang=eng

And here's the chipset driver:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldId=16023&lang=eng

XP will definitely work if you have all of the proper drivers.
Either extract the Inf files, put them on a usb stick and load them as the XP install disk boots up into the installation, or disable AHCI in BIOS, install XP, then install the chipset drivers, and finally SATA drivers (after which you restart the computer and re-enable AHCI in bios).

The Intel webpage also contains drivers for your Wifi (wireless card) right here:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=3062&lang=eng

Here's the driver for the LAN card (I have a Marvell Yukon ethernet card in my 5930G ... you have to check in Device manager if your LAN card is the same ... if not, search for it's manufacturer's website and download the XP drivers from it):
http://www.marvell.com/drivers/driverDisplay.do?driverId=202

Also ... here are Dox's drivers for the gpu:
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=21982

Performance/stability wise they are the best as far as newly released drivers are concerned.

Just make sure to uninstall the previous drivers before installing new ones.

That's about it for the essentials.
Other drivers you need to find are for the touchpad, the modem and the CrystalEye camera.

As I said, look into Device Manager for exact names/numbers and try to find them for XP yourself.

 

Yup, that happens on mine as well. If I push the plastic under the drive, it also sort of goes under the DVD drive. I was worried too till I realized that it was normal, so no worries, just be careful

I'm pretty sure that those problems were mostly solved in SP1, is it installed on your pc???
Also, for surfin the net try Firefox , much better in my opinion.

As for installing XP, Deks is your guy/gal , because he knows much more about it than me

 

ok thx alot rayyan and deks
i will go now try to download xp and i will tell u what will happen

 

Best of luck

Hope it goes well

 

ok now i finally have win xp XD
the problem is i need empowering technology and the acer arcade
and it says i need to update all the drivers

 

Empowering tech and Acer arcade?
What for?

I got rid of those programs on day 1.

Go here:
http://support.acer-euro.com/drivers/notebook/as_5930.html

Download the Adere Modem Driver and CCD_Suyin_AP (crystaleye webcam driver).

The touchpad driver is there as well.
All 3 should be usable in XP.
The remainder of the drivers I already supplied on a page before this one.
So you don't need anything else.

 

actually most of the things worked alone after xp lol
but i installed the drivers to be sure
thx alot
so you mean i cannot get the empowering and the arcade?
i really need them
btw the "audio device on high definition audio bus" there is an exclamation mark near it so i dont know where to get it from

 

You can install them separately.
The Acer website should have them available for download.

Although I really don't see why you need them as they don't really do anything useful apart from being resource hogs.

 

actually when i formatted i couldnt make partitions from the c
so i left the c 110 gb lol for the games so its no problem to put many programs
i made d 55 and f 54 i couldnt do more than this coz i did it after installing the xp
+ it makes me angry to have 2 buttons in the laptop that doesnt do anything lol
and about the "audio device on high definition audio bus" do u know where i can get it from?
thx

 

What do you mean you have two buttons that don't do anything??

I think the high definition audio driver is the realtek one
It should be on the acer site, or wherever you found the other xp drivers

 

Actually, I think the Audio device on high definition audio bus might be the Nvidia HDMI Audio (unless of course you didn't install the Realtek High def Audio - sound card itself).

If the sound card (Realtek High def Audio) is installed, then it's most likely the Nvidia HDMI Audio.
Try installing it through this:
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/win/144542

 

now i put the directx 10 for xp and now i try to open splinter cell it gives me d3dx9_30.dll error
so do i have to getthis dll file only or get the directx 9.0c again?if yes then from where can i download it?
oh and for the antivirus which ones do you recommend because avg is making me angry.
i installed the empowering but it give an error when i try to open it,the camera record video good but when i try to take pictures it give an error also

 

Where exactly did you get DX10 for XP?

If you are getting an error message on Splinter Cell, there is a possibility your Dx10 messed up something with dx9.

Either way, you cannot utilize Dx10 in XP because it was designed solely for Vista.
The only thing you do get is the numbers indicating you are using 10 but in reality you are not.
Besides, dx10 flopped big time in my opinion and has yet to prove itself.
Stick to Dx9 (which is the only thing you can do on XP) ... it will also provide far better performance in certain games.

In regards to the antivirus ...
Well, I personally use ESET NOD32 (Smart Security).
Great little program. Haven't had issues with anything using it.

If Empowering is giving you an error when you try to open it, search the internet for a XP version.
It's possible the Empowering is primarily there for being utilized under Vista.
What kind of errors are you getting when trying to open Empowering tech and when you try to take pics with the webcam?

 

No, no
Kisko
Some older games require DX9 files that retarded DX10 does not install.

I suggest you download and install the latest version DX9 from here:
http://www.filehippo.com/download_directx/

I also agree with Deks, I use Eset Smart Security and I am very happy with it
It hasn't actually caused any problems for me.

 

Thats only supposed to be used to trick games into thinking your using dx10. You don't actually use DX10 AFAIK.

 

thx alot
i installed the directx 9,in dxdiag it still says directx 10 but now splinter cell is working
now for the errors here they are:
http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=40158617xu7.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/my.php?image=63958160ig9.jpg

 

I need big help i just got a virus and now i can´t acess my computer

Is there anywhere to download a boot disc to Acer Aspire 5930G ??

desperate

 

ok first off thanks for the hard work.... im going to give xp one last chance.... using the drivers you listed after that well ill stick to vista..... one last thing i upgraded to vista sp2 and honestly its running a lot smoother and finaly my folders are staying with the settings that i set for them so at least im a little happier..... but ok here i go one more time

 

it worked for me
first before you put xp change the sata from F2,then xp will work
then install the drivers and all

 

Yea, it's beacuse the latest version of DirectX is displayed, but to work counter strike needs DX9 files that weren't installed. When you installed DX9 the latest version is still 10, but now you have the files you need to play, so it works and says DX10

The reason for that is some sort of windows error, which leads me to believe that the prgorams that you installed may not be compatible with xp.
Where did you get the programs from???

Give us some details on the problems you are having, so we know a bit more when we try to help you

Good Luck man
Hope it works

 

'Bonding'

I would personally recommend you describe the virus problem in details.
What exactly is happening.
Also, if you have an anti-virus installed, try going into Windows safe-mode and deleting the bug from there.

It's one of the best methods when cleaning the system from malware, spyware, viruses and the likes because numerous system files are inoperative in safe-mode and modifiable (which means, if critical files are affected, you can modify/clean them in safe-mode).

Also, I suggest you download and install Spybot.
It's a free (but one of the best) program out there for cleaning various spyware.

I personally use NOD32 for viruses and most garbage, plus if I suspect an infection by spyware, then I utilize Spybot (however those instances are extremely rare for me).

'Kikso'

The reason you are probably getting those errors is because the programs were probably written to work best in Vista and not XP.
On the other hand, it's also possible you can get your hands on older versions of that software that was made for XP.

 

You gave a good answer, but I didn't go down that path because he said

This might have meant it doesn't boot.

Like we both said, we need more details

 

Yeah ... which begs the question on what the heck was he/she doing to his/her laptop.

 

LOL
Don't go there