Acer Aspire TimelineX 1830T Thread

By the way...which one would be better:
1810T with SU7300 and 3G for €620 or
1830TZ with U5400 and no 3G for €599?

I'm still not convinced that the U5400 will be better than the SU7300...it has no turbo or HT...is the arrandale microarchitecture clock to clock faster without any of its gimmicks than the Core2?

 

here's the link for the core i5 if you guys want to see it for yourselves :

Acer Aspire TimelineX 1830T-52U4G32n | ARLT Computer

still, 799 euros seems way overpriced...

 

But, ULV targets the 18W crowd (vice 25W). Even then it appears to me that few manufacturers are producing 7+ hour notebooks such as Acer with ULV laptops. Sure with Atoms it is easy as Asus has a lot of Atom-based long-lived netbooks. But for 7+ hours on a dual core in a ~3 lb format, the pickings are pretty slim (thus, our keen interest in the 1810 and 1830).

Sandy Bridge will have its own challenges coming to market. You can believe 6 months if you'd like but the reality is it almost always takes longer than the estimates. I'm not saying don't wait 6 months. I'm just saying don't expect NewEgg and Amazon to have lots of options (if any) when Sandy Bridge is "released". Released dates and products available in market are two different things (as we're seeing with the ULV i3's and i5's).

 

It's possible that the article was meant to convey that the 1830Z (newly announced product) will be available in August/September. The summary on Netbook Choice seemed to convey this to me. But we won't know until we see it. Having the 1830T on the acer site* is a good sign none-the-less. And the availability in European markets as indicated above is a very good sign.

*I should note that the only 1830T configuration listed on the US Acer site is with an i3 ULV but that is not a big deal for me.

 

Guys, for all of you happy just to wait for the newest product on the market (already old as soon as it's out) I've found a benchmark of an Acer 1830T-4549
Here is the link to the .pdf: http://www.principledtechnologies.com/clients/reports/Acer/1830T-4549_0410.pdf

 

That was a great find. Now all I need is a battery life test with the 1830T running 720p or 1080i video in a loop. I'd like to know how long I can watch movies continuously for those long flights.

 

1551 is now on acer's products page :
Acer US Product page

11.6” 1366 x 768 display
AMD Athlon II Neo K325 (dual core, 1.3GHz) OR AMD Athlon II Neo K625 (dual core, 1.5GHz)
AMD M880G chipset
ATI Radeon HD 4225 graphics
up to 4GB DDR3 RAM (2 slots)
up to 320GB HDD
3x USB 2.0, card reader, HDMI, VGA
802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi
Gigabit LAN
3G, Bluetooth (optional)
Dolby Headphone, Natural Bass, Sound Space Expander
4400mAh 6-cell battery (5 hours)
5800mAh 6-cell battery (6 - 7 hours)
Windows 7 Home Premium
1.4 kg / 3.1 pounds

on sale here for 506.99$ :

onSale | Acer Aspire 1551-4650 - Athlon II Neo K325 / 1.3 GHz - RAM 2 GB - HDD 250 GB - Mobility Radeon HD 4225 - Gigabit Ethernet - WLAN : 802.11b/g/n - Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit - 11.6" Widescreen TFT 1366 x 768 ( WXGA ) CineCrystal - camera -

source : Acer Aspire 1551 Product Page Goes Live

 

WORD! but i guess the consumption will be similar to the 1810. as we can excpect also a little bit more than 8 hours promised. so video and stream could be about 3 hours?

 

The Core i3-330UM version (1830T-33U2G25N) is since yesterday widely available via many webshops in the Netherlands, as you can see here: Acer Aspire TimelineX 1830T-33U2G25N prijzen | Core | Tweakers.net Pricewatch

However, I'm very dissapointed that nobody is offering the i5-520UM version (1830T-52U4G32n), because that is the machine that I'm waiting for.

Since the Dutch site of Acer is only showing the 1830T with the i3-330UM processor I have a bad feeling that it could take a long time before the i5 version will come available in Holland.

 

Finally, LG looks like it is starting to wake up and look at more power in its beautiful small and light units. Competition for the 1830T? About time that the designer of the nearly perfect P310 and revolutionary P100 tablet (with 8600M GT) got back into the game. Now make me one with an I3-350M, an HD 5470 and tablet capabilities (a modern version of the LG P100).

LG T280 Passes FCC Again - Upgraded To Calpella Platform

There is a new model of the 1830 being anounced as well? 1830Z? is this old news?

Acer prepping 1830Z ultrathin alongside 1830T | Netbook Choice

Bronsky

 

Not sure if this was posted yet but here is the one coming to the US:

Mfr #: LX.PTV02.034
Aspire 1830T-3505 TimelineX Notebook
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
Processor: Intel Core i3-330UM Mobile Processor (3MB Intel Smart Cache, 1.20GHz)
Memory: 3GB (2/1) DDR3 SDRAM
Storage: 250GB SATA hard drive, 5400RPM
TFT Display: Acer CineCrystal 11.6" (1366 x 768)
Graphics: Integrated Intel HD Graphics (128MB dedicated memory)
HDMI with HDCP
Three USB 2.0
Dimensions: 11.2" (285.0mm) W x 8.0" (204.0mm) D x 1.0" ? 1.1? (25.7mm ? 28.0mm) H / 3.1 lb. (1.4kg)
Six-cell lithium ion battery: up to 8.0 hours life depending on configuration and usage
Diamond-black chassis

Price around $600USD

 

One question guys:

I've considered buying a 1830T for like... 4 months now and waited and waited and now that they're finally there I'm not too sure if they're really that great of an advancement over the 1810T and if I shouldn't wait for the Sandy Bridge? or what it's called. But that set aside:
I was on the train today and wanted to work with my standard big screen laptop and I realized for the first time how TY a glossy display is and how restricted to certain environments you are with it. So my question would be: Is there any serious alternative to the 1830T in terms of size and performance and overall quality which does have a MATTE screen?

Would be cool if some of you knew.

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SO I guess ARLT does have actual 520um machines. But now that bronsky linked that T280.....dunno which seems better

 

You can be sure that the LG will cost more. Edit: But I would imagine that it will have a kickin' display.

Bronsky

 

Hi, Everyone! I've been lurking in this thread for a while. Thanks for all the great posts. I was interested in the 1830t but then saw the Acer 721 at Amazon.com and decided to get it, as I just need a basic, light computer for travel (it's not my main laptop).

I got the 721 on Saturday and so far really like it. Very slim and quiet and decent performance. Battery life is only just okay. I'm guessing 3.5 hours typical use.

I was interested to see from the PDF zooster posted that the i5 1830t got a 1279 in 3Dmark06. I tested my 721, and it scored 1235, so very similar. The i5's CPU score was a lot higher, though, as the 721 is a single core CPU. Still, it does play WoW on med-low settings at 30+ fps, so that's good for when I'm on the go.

My only issue with the 721 is that I want to add another stick of RAM (it's got a free slot) but for the life of me I can't get the hard disk/RAM cover door off. I loosen all the screws but something's still holding it down in the middle. If anyone else ever gets one of these and has some advice, let me know!

 

Is that more or less the only real alternative if you want the same performance + screen size + matte? And is it as slim as the Aspire TimelineX?

 

seems like the T280 with a C2D had been out here. Better go to a store and check it out. No new news about the 1830T i5....all I'm finding is i3 this and 1830Z that....

EDIT: aaaannnnd ARLT is no longer showing it on their website...things are looking grim...

 

Although it has a 13" screen instead of a 11,6" screen the MSI X-Slim X360 looks like a good alternative for the Acer 1830T and Lenovo U160. Does anybody know when the X360 might come available? The different sites state June, but I do not know how reliable that information is.

 

All right, just in case anyone is interested, I did finally manage to get the RAM/disk cover off the back. Just took a bit more force than I expected to unsnap the clips. The Acer 721 comes with one 2GB RAM module and one free slot, which is great. I'm now running 3GB. This improved my 3DMark06 score a bit, bumping it up to 1297, which actually beats the 1830t according to that PDF zooster linked.

Anyway, those holding out for an i5 based machine probably want a bit more CPU power, but if you're looking for a machine with a similar chassis and 3D performance that's also very inexpensive, the Acer Aspire 721 is working out great so far.

 

We are acer owners. The concept of a reliable release date is foreign to us.

Bronsky

 

Seems so.

Yes. Look at the specs: Products

Please note, the Travelmate does not have a HDMI output. These systems have a docking connector instead. The optional docking station has a couple of connectors including DVI-D.

Michael

 

First the LG T280 was anounced and now HP has anounced more possible competition for the 1830T. HP is producing an 12.1" Probook 5220M business class ultraportable. It will be configured with an I5-450UM, 4GB DDR3, a 7200rpm or 80GB SSD drive, 6 cell battery, a 12.1" 1280x800 display (16:10?) and weigh 3.5 lbs. The 5220M is being released in Japan at the moment and costs ~ $760 USD.

??HP HP Directplus ??????

How many more competitors will be anouncing new units before the 1830T is actually posted for sale in the US?

Bronsky

 

The 3Dmark06 score is suprisingly high.How will you compare the performance of the cpu?Does it compare to the perfomance of the single core Intel CULVs for example SU3500 or does it resemble more an Atom processor.Does it get hot?Noisy?With scores like that sounds like an excellent alternative.

 

Hi All,

Long time lurker, first time poster

The Highschool I work at is looking to purchase a bulk load (~450) of notebooks, after a long period of testing different netbooks and notebooks, we settled on the Acer 1830T, we are aussie based, and the shipment date for the 1830T is still a few months off.

The local Acer reps have given us a demo 1430 unit, which on paper and in the flesh appears the same as a 1830T except lacking a 3G module and has a lower specced battery (6Cell 4400mAh 49Wh Part# AL10C31).

Now, my issue with the unit comes down to battery life, I haven't had a good chance to test the battery of the 1430, but on paper its only rated at 6hours.
The fear will be not getting a full school days (7 hours~) charge out of them, and ethier having to supplement them with a spare battery or provide some kind of charging space.

Question: Does anyone know or could guess weather the batteries will be interchangeable between the models (a la 1410 - 1810 - 1810TZ) this may be an option to purchase a lot of 1830 batteries (5800mAh).

Thanks a alot!

 

I'm guessing they will be interchangeable. And for the record, I believe that's it's best to bank on 1.5 to 2 hours LESS battery life than what Acer claims if you are going to actually use the computer. That said, I would think that you should have no problems making your computer last a full day if you suspend of even just turn off the display (close the lid) whenever you can. Especially if you get your hands on a 5800mAh unit.

 

Yes, I'm pleasantly surprised with the 3D performance on the Acer Aspire 721. It's better than I hoped. As for comparing CPUs...that's a good question. The 3DMark06 CPU score I got for my Acer 721 was 734. I just looked at Notebookcheck: Notebook & Laptop Reviews and News and saw that an SU3500 scored 649 and an Atom N450 scored 495.

So the Athlon II Neo K125 in the Acer 721 appears to be a bit better than an Intel Core Solo SU3500. And the HD 4225 3DMark06 score is nearly double an Intel 4500MHD, and is comparable to Intel HD graphics (according to zooster's PDF). Battery life is probably slightly less than Intel. All in all, AMD Nile appears to be a pretty good platform!

Oh, as for heat and noise...the Acer 721 is very quiet. When surfing the web, the fan is all but inaudible. When playing a game, it's a low, soft whoosh. The computer gets warm but not hot. Right now, after 1.5 hours of web surfing, the CPU is 55C. I must say, for the money ($429) it seems great.

 

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Thanks for the infos on the Nile platform! Haven't seen any serious reviews yet so these are good news!

 

From an M11x thread, the 640UM gets a 5.7 for cpu score in WEI. My SU9400 gets a 4.2. Nice upgrade, so the 520UM should get 5.4 or so?

 

How much would a U5400 get?

 

What kind of battery life are you getting with the Acer 721? They say 5.5 hours in their spec sheet, but I am very curious how accurate that is.

EDIT: I also wanted to add that I can't find any real reviews of the Acer 721 and it has been available for purchase for over a week. What's up with that?

I am up in the air about which I want to purchase... the 1810tz or the Acer 721. I really like the ATI 4225 with DEDICATED video memory in the 721, but I also want a netbook that gets at least 5 hours realistic web/general use (for college). The 1810tz is really nice, long battery life, etc... but the Intel Graphics leave a little to be desired for gaming purposes.

 

Well, I haven't done any rigorous testing, but I'm guessing 3.5 hours of battery in typical usage. The Acer 721 only comes with a 4400mAh battery, while the 1810tz has a 5600mAh battery.

The 1810tz also has 4GB of RAM and a dual core processor, not single core like the Acer 721 (though the 721 is clocked higher). The graphics in the Acer 721 are twice as good, though. So the 721 definitely has superior graphics, but if battery life is your primary motivator, looks like you'd better go for the 1810tz.

Alternately, get a 721 and buy a bigger battery when/if available. Or, wait for the 1830t, which should have both good battery life and decent graphics. Good luck with your decision!

EDIT: The HD 4225 video memory isn't exactly dedicated. From what I can tell, 256MB of system RAM is reserved for the video card. There is also a 128MB (or maybe 64MB depending on what I read) side-port memory on the graphics card, for a total of 384 video memory. Plus, the video card will share additional system RAM as needed and available. Going from 2GB of RAM to 3GB of RAM on my system definitely improved my WoW performance by 5+ fps.

 

Thanks for the quick reply!! What kind of WoW performance are you getting (what fps, settings, etc...)? What I understood about the GPU was that it had 384 dedicated and could use system ram as well. But, there is a lack of info on the web about this PC, so I could be wrong. But, I thought I had read that in the Acer spec page, too. That dedicated video ram is a big deal in this class of netbook.

Yeah, if real world battery performance on the 721 is 3.5 hours, I will have to look elsewhere. Unless that 5600mAh battery really improves it a lot... does anyone have any predictions on what that would do here? Is that available yet?

EDIT: I wasn't thinking, this is sort of derailing the original point of the thread. Runemark, perhaps you want to start a new thread about the Acer 721 and post your experience there. I don't want to off the mods, but you are the first person I have been able to find that has actually used one. And I have been searching the web very hard for the last week or so.

 

Core i5-520UM scores 4.9, so U5400 might be 4.5. This is from a PC Watch test of the Toshiba T210. Wonder what makes the 640UM so much better, the only real differences between the 520UM and 640UM are 640UM's slightly higher clockspeed and the extra 1mb of L3 cache. Here are all the tests PC Watch did.

 

Thats a much bigger difference than I would have expected. The 520UM is one of the old chips however. I would like to see the spread between the I7 and the I5-540UM.

 

just a heads up regarding the 1830TZ.. it's now available on amazon.de but, get this, it's now selling for 590 euros!!

Acer Aspire TimelineX 1830TZ-U542G32nss: Amazon.de: Elektronik

and it's now being sold through a shop called Home of Hardware, though it's not listed on their official website...

 

NCIX U5400 model $550 CAD

 

NCIX.com - Buy Acer Aspire AS1830T-3730 Intel I3-330 4GB 500GB 11.6IN Screen Intel HD Windows 7 Prem Notebook - LX.PTT02.017 In Canada.

650 $ CAD

 

Did I read correctly that Acer had prodcued a "G" version of the 1810T? There was an 11.6" 1810TZG with dedicated graphics? Were any of these ever sold in the US? How many were made - 1?

Bronsky

 

I'm not sure if anyone saw this or not but it looks like Provantage is selling the I5 version for $698.48. No word on when it will ship.

LX.PTV02.033 11.6 3GB/320/Windows 7 Home /I3/330UM Black - $594.01

PROVANTAGE: Availability of 11.6 3GB/320/Windows 7 Home /I3/330UM Black By Acer

LX.PTV02.043 11.6 4GB/500/Windows 7 Home /I5-430UM Black - $698.48

PROVANTAGE: Ratings and Reviews of 11.6 4GB/500/Windows 7 Home /I5-430UM Black By Acer

 

None were released in the US.

 

I'll bet you could get them in Singapore.

Bronsky

 

? I just ran 3Dmark06 on my 2 weeks old 1810TZ and scored 585 and 1149 in CPU test. My spec is SU4100 and 4GB Ram.... Should have bought 721 apparently

 

your 2 weeks old 1810TZ is actually quite older than that (in computer years). But it's still a capable machine. There is always a better and shinier model waiting around the corner. Don't be too disapointed : at least you have a laptop, contrary to some of us around here who are still waiting for the 1830T to be released...

 

Just placed an order from Provantage.

"Your Internet order is in the process of being verified by an order reviewer."

I just gave it a shot cause I saw i5 but turns out it's the 430UM.....oh well, see what happens...

 

Ok, its available in Germany...
1830t - i5-520UM - 800€
1830t - i5-430UM - 700€
1830t - i3-330UM - 650€
1830tz - U5400 - 550€

They are quite more expensive than the 1810t, which is currently available for 620€ with 3G, which is worth about 100€ if it has to be purchased separately. So its even cheaper than the 1830tz!

 

Acer Aspire Timeline X 1830 Notebooks Laptops billiger notebook.de

11 different models, and some seem to be in stock!

 

1830t - i5-520UM - 800€ ????
hahahahahhaha

 

keep in mind that this price includes the german tax. 671,43 EUR is the actual price before tax.