Acer MXM Models and Cards

It's sitting in my living room lol.

I would offer a return if you were not happy

Anyway back on topic.

My GTS250 installation review has been sent to MXM upgrade.

PS: 950 Euros for a GTX480M!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Omg... 950 who is going to be able to buy that?!? Is it that good that its worth that much?

 

Badabing!

Which is why I didn't exactly order a truck

 

Yeah I'd like to point out it's not the shop its just the price from the maker.

 

Oh i'd also like to point out the 4650 works 100% with the 6935G.

 

Great work, guys!
But Ice-Tea, shouldn't you change the URL of the page? It's "8935G.html" for the 5935G upgrade.

 

hello all,
i have a 7735g with 4570 512 ddr2,now i found a 4650 1gb ddr3.
Acer Aspire 7735G Grafikkarte MXM-A 1GB DDR3 RAM - Laptop Reparatur & Ersatzteile Elektro-Export.de
will the card work and if so how much better is it than my pressent card,and is it hard to change.

 

There is a good chance that it is compatable.

I am assuming like the rest of the refreshes that a dissasembly of the machine would be required, however this is not too awful if you get a service guide for the machine (which includes step by step guides).

The only concern is that it would not cool the VRMs.

However the performance difference would be very large and if you game at all on the machine would definatly be worth it.

 

hi meaker,
that sounds good,and is the price ok with 170 euros?i cant find anything else here in germany.from acer here they dont upgrade mine.

 

Yes I should. Was a quick job (like so many things ) Must make sure it doesn't break any other links first.

Accidently, starting Monday we'll not only include a premium heatpad with each purchase but also premium thermal paste

 

I never got a heatpad with mine

 

You got bad service in general... And we're low on pads. They've been on order, should come in this week again...

If you can install a card with paste only, that's always better.

 

Hi to all, I'm here as a owner of an Acer Travelmate 7720G-302G25Mi, originally it has installed an ATI Radeon HD2400XT.
The motherboard has original Acer BIOS version 1.35

I recently bought an nVidia 9650M GT 1Gb DDR2 MXM II and I was wondering to definetly waste the ATI VGA, but I was wrong.
With the nvidia the laptop stop to start, I got 1 long beep followed with 2 short. That means VGA problem or its memory, in accordance with the mobo beep codes.

Do you think it's not compatible or is the VGA not working at all?

If this is not the correct topic pls move it in the correct section

Tks in advance and my best compliments for this very interesting forum

 

Best bet is either an HD3650 or a HD4650. They seem to be more generally compatable.

 

Well I should get my HD4670 and new internal heatsink in the next couple of weeks so that should be interesting

 

Does anybody here know a site where I can order copper pads & where you can pay simply by bank transfer instead of using paypal and similiar methods where you need 4 security digits which my card does not have.
Same question for some decent thermal paste. (btw I live in Belgium)

Once I get these things I can finaly order a hd4650 (the mxmpgrade.com site didn't answer my question, so a hd 4670 is no option).

 

@ Student@Antwerp2009,

You can simply make an paypal account linked to your bank account. I did it and you don't need an creditcard or what so ever.

Try it!

You are also protected for the first $200,-

 

Uh? YOu didn't get a reply? I'm sending you a mail with my address. Bank transfer is no problem. A heatpad is included (if I don't forget ) and starting next week thermal paste is too

 

HD 4650 = 1.1v 550mhz
HD 4670 = 1.2v 675mhz

You can alter the voltages in the bios so technically you can turn one into another.

I actually made my 4650 run at 600mhz at 1.0v in the end.

Of course the 4650 is going to be binned so they might run hotter than those selected to be 4670s.

My 4650 would go up to 750mhz at 1.2v if you could cool it.

 

if i want to put a copper pad( http://metaloffcuts.co.uk/shop/heatsinks/copper-heatsink-0-7mm-absorbs-electronic-heat.html) on my gpu how i have to do it? put thermal paste on the gpu then put the copper pad on the gpu and then put thermal paste to the other side of the copper pad and its done?

 

Yeah, though only some notebooks need it.

 

I understood that the copper pad replaces the thermal paste, as it can transfer heat more effectively than the paste.
I could be completely wrong about this, of course.

 

I believe the copper replaces thermal pads, not paste.

 

- If there is no gap and the heatsink is level with the GPU die surface, paste (as thin as possible) is unbeatable.
- If there is a gap, a copper plate with paste on both sides is unbeatable *but* if the plate is not exactlty as thick as the gap the heatsink will not level up, contact will be a quite bad, performance too *and* you risk killing your GPU because of the mechanical stress.
- Heatpads are excellent if there is a gap to fill and they absorb any stress but compared to a perfectly applied copper or alumnium sheet they loose out badly. Not any heatpad will do. Most heatpads on the market are silicon based memory heatpads with thermal resitance in the 1-3 W/mK range and they *suck* for the GPU die.

 

I have a strange problem and perhaps someone can help me with this.

I received an ATI 4850 mxm 2.1 type III card which I want to install in my 8930g. So I tried the card yesterday and to my surprise the screen changes from green to red to blue to some sort of test pattern and so on. It is in a loop. The laptop boots normally as I hear the startup sound from windows 7 and I even hear the sound 'new hardware found'. So I guess the card is recognized by windows and the bios (otherwise it wouldn't boot) but it looks like the card is in some sort of test mode or similar?

Anyone ever encountered this phenomenon? And any suggestions in how to solve this? Perhaps a bios mod for the GPU?

I'm a bit baffled.

 

Either a testmode or a specific vBios for screen test purposes? You didn't by any chance get an engineering sample? Quite a lot of those on eBay..

 

I've bought the one from this thread.

Don't know what bios it is since I cannot see anything .

As far as I know it is not a engineering sample.

 

Eh, if it's taken from a production MSI machine I don't see the problem.. Never saw something like that.

Have you tried an external monitor?

 

Technically if you used a copper sheet that was flat at the atomic level, your chip was flat at the atomic level and the heatsink was flat at the atomic level and you were applying the heatsink to the chip in a perfect clean room then you would not need paste.

Unfortunatly this is not the case and while you cant see any dips etc. they do exist. Air will fill those gaps, and air is an insulator. Filling those gaps with paste instead is much better than air.

Too much paste and it widens the gap between the chip and heatsink which reduces performance.

 

It's taken from an MSI GT725.

Haven't tried an external monitor though. I will try that and I will record the light show for anyone who is interested.

 

Are you running the latest BIOS on your notebook?

 

Hey all,

I have been keeping an eye on this forum since half a year. Just a few days ago I created an account.

Now I have a question myself.

Is it hard to upgrade an laptop vid card?
I have an acer 5520G with a nvidia 8600m gs mxm II card.

My eye felt on a geforce 9650M GT CLICK. I saw Arminator changed his videocard in his 5520G with this card. But does it work inmediatly or do i need to change a lot of stuff.

I know a guy that had a mxm rom problem so his laptop would start with 30s wait time and balanced performance.

Hope you guys can help me out

 

@Bo0bz

Basically, all you have to do is take out the old card and put in the new one...

Also you will have to take the screw plate from the back of 8600m GS and put it instead the one that comes with 9650m gt unless you want to change four screws for your gpu heatsink...

Also I had to do some modding on my heatsink (I did it yesterday)...
On the upper right corner (on the back side of the heatsink where the screw number 1 is located) there is one part of heatsink that must be removed so the copper part of heatsink would completely lay down on gpu core...
Without that mod copper part didn`t lay well and I had slower cool-down of gpu and a bit higher temps so I needed to use cooling pad...
Now I have lower temps and I am not using cooling pad (even lower than when used cooling pad before )...

Also you will have to use latest driver which can be downloaded from nvidias site...

Hope this was helpful...

And the card you provided in your link is the same one I bought, I mean the same seller so I would recommend it... Quite fast shipping and in safe package...

 

That's nice 2 hear,

Just pressed the order button!

If it's not a big deal can you make some pictures of your cooling mod?

Thanks!

 

hi again,
does any body have a ati 4650 1gb ddr3 card for me cheap.i found some on the internet but new,i would take a second hand one,as long as it works.i am not that rich.

thanks

 

If you need MXM II, then I would question your sources even for new.

If it's an MXM-A card, then no one is selling theirs since there is nothing to really upgrade to yet.

 

hi ,
yes,its a mxm a card.well then i will just have to buy new then.has any body put one in a 7735g yes???if so then please mail pics if you can.
thanks

 

Yes I'm running 1.20

 

Forgot to take pics when I was modding...
Now I am waiting for Arctic Silver 5, so when I change my paste I ll take some shots, because taking heatsink out again is a quite procedure...

 

I know but you still need the 4 security digits for your bank account. But I just ordered a card trough a normal bank transfer from Ice-Tea / Kris at mxm-upgrade.com so unless my card will overheat with the standard included thermal pad and I'll need to buy some copper, my 4 digit issue with my bank account can wait

Kinda ironic, right after I send the money to mxm-upgrade for my new gpu I noticed my laptop lcd is dying... It has 3 dark shade areas and it takes quite a while before they are lit up. But my acer can forget getting a new screen, I just ordered an external 23 inch full hd monitor (which costs less than replacing an internal laptop screen) so i'll be using this laptop as a deksktop replacement system anyway.

After having upgraded the ram, bought an external screen (will arrive this week hopefully) and the new gpu which I just ordered, my last upgrade will be a new hard drive, and I don't plan on spending a cent more before the second generation of Sandy Bridge will be released.

 

Hello do anyone know what my acer aspire 4741g type mxm card. my laptop spec like this intel i5-450m, nvidia geforce 310m, 500 gb hdd.

 

Hello SyafiqKidz, and welcome to the forums!
Unfortunately, your notebook does not likely have an MXM card in it, just like most of the modern Acers.
If it's not in the list on the first page, it's probably not MXM.

 

It's been a long time i search for an 4670m DDR3 but it's impossible to find it.
Or i must buy a complete MSI notebook .

Someone has a contact to buy it?

thanks

 

I bought an MSI EX625 for the card but good luck even finding those now. They discontinued it about a year and a half ago. I believe they switched it to the DDR2 models. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Very expensive for just a card!
Right we can just find now DDR2 model.
I hesitate to buy one but I don't know if they are as bad as everybody say.

 

hello
im sorry if im asking obvious, but i have no idea about mxm cards

so...
if i have a laptop with mxm-II slot (acer 5630g) can i change gpu (ati hd3470) with ANY gpu that is mxm-II? if not, what difficulties are there? what should i know about when i want to buy better card?
id like to get nvidia 9600gt for example, is it possible?
thanks

 

ok my 5920g got the 9650m gt. it had a bit heat problem! but i solved it. it get a good thermal paste and a copper pad on the core and now the top temperature is 90 but is the top of it and only in extreme situation! thx the help who send the bios to downvoltage it and thx for everybody who help me!

4800 in 3DMark2006!

 

Hello szeryf, and welcome to the forums!
In theory, yes; if you have an MXM-II slot, you can use any MXM-II card (or MXM-I card, but I don't know why you would) in it.
In practice, it's tricky. There are known compatibility issues that prevent systems from working with certain cards - the 5920G and the GeForce 9600M GT is the best known example. Plus, no upgrade is supported by the manufacturer - thus, we have no definitive idea of what works.

The best practice is to stick to what Acer has already put into your model in different configurations - for example, my 6920G has been sold with the 9500M GS or the Radeon HD 3650, so it'd be a safe bet for me to switch over to that if my 9500M GS finally croaks.
The next best option is to see what other people have done and follow in their footsteps - at least there's someone who can help you diagnose any problems.
Finally, you can always go it alone and try something out yourself, blaze your own path. MXM-Upgrade can offer a money-back guarantee on its cards, such as the Radeon HD 4670.

 

Great job!

That is a quite reasonable temp!

 

thank you for your answer TehSuigi
well, from what i've found 5630g can have hd3650, but id really like to try 9600m gt or best ati mxm-II (they say its a fair chance to try out hd4650 at mxm-upgrade.com), anyway i will have to search for some more information and then will try to decide
so... anyway, if i do upgrade, do i need to worry about overheating? maybe i should carefully check what architecture is gpu, its clockspeed, etc and compare to what i have currently installed? or solutions like impish's above with some sort of cooling pad should be sufficient in most cases? (yeah, i guess you cant tell for sure, but how does it work in cases you know about?)