Acer MXM Models and Cards

i think the copper pad is a good thing if you have overheating or no. i advise you to use it because easy to install it and i didnot believe it has a big effect but i coudnot believe my eyes when i saw the temperatures. In games and under pressure it was 100-110 degrees and after i install copper pad it is 85 now and it is the top!

 

Szeryf, overheating is always a concern. Notebooks are designed for a certain amount of heat dissipation; if you stick a more demanding MXM card in your machine, it might be overwhelmed.

That being said, there are crafty ways of keeping heat levels down - copper shims that conduct heat better, improved thermal paste, lapping the heatsink, etc. - and most of the upgrades here have been successful despite temperature upgrades.

Don't bother comparing the GPU architecture and clock speed to what you currently have; it'll be different most of the time anyway.

 

Copper shims/pad put on the core, by my opinion is only important when your original/stock cooling pad that came with laptop is not fitting well on the core...
As a proof I can say that when I did some modding on my stock cooling pad form gpu core so the copper part of it would well lay on the gpu core, I got reasonable and acceptable temp with no overheating even when playing Crysis and without using a active cooling pad beneath laptop...

And I have one question:
The aluminum foil around gpu card, is it safe to remove and would that decrease heating?

 

Hello! I can confirm Aspire 5720ZG is compatible with Mobility Radeon 2600 512MB (i didnt have XT version).
Originally was plugged 8400m GS (which died month ago).

 

No clue - my card doesn't have any foil.
@edek: Thanks for the confirmation! I'll update the main post.

 

I will make some photos to show that foil...
For me it was strange because as far as I know aluminum foil is meant to keep heat not to spread it around...
So I will probably remove it...

 

on my videocard is this foil too! but i think useless to remove it! but do it for your responsibility!

 

When I took my laptop apart, I took the aluminiumfoil off the gpu. Had no decrease in temps nor higher temps. So it seems useless to me.

 

I have a really weird problem. Today I installed my 4670 in my acer aspire 5920g, replacing the 8600m gt.
This morning everything worked perfect, I was playing games at higher resolutions then ever before flawlessly.

Now, when I play AC2, or AC1, after 1 or 2 minutes, the game freezes and my laptop shuts down.
I do not have a copper pad but use a normal thermal pad. However, I still don't think its because of overheating, because..you can't heat up a gpu from 50 to 100+ celcius in just a minute or two..right? My 8600m gt ran at 94 celcius without any shutdowns. Unless the ati is programmed to shutdown at a way lower temp?
I never got the chance to check my temps on siw this evening (only this morning and they were around 60-70).

When windows gives me an explenation after the boot up, I get a reference of 3 links which look like this: C/blabla/temp.

So..whats up with that? Why can't I play games anymore?

edit: after the crash It seemed my I had to re-type my log in and pasword here at nbr, it seems my pc just forgot it.
Also, I just played AC2 for 1 minute and the gpu went up from 50 to 70 celcius. I'm about to try to play for a bit longer to see if the prob might be the temp afterall.

 

chips can heat up in a matter of seconds not minutes, please check temps and be careful

 

Well, I'm going to try to find myself some copper then and do a mod, see how that works out.

Does anybody know a si te that sells cut copper AND uses regular bank transferring? Every site I found so far uses paypal (which requires 4 security digits on your bankcart, which I don't have on my maestrocard) so ordering from them isn't an option. (Had the same problem with mxm-upgrade.com, untill Ice tea contacted me and said I could just transfer the money instead of using paypal, great service imo).

 

try that site: Copper Heatsink, Absorb Heat, Electrical, 0.7mm

i have ordered it from there and i can set the size and the thickness too!

 

Purchasing from that site also requires 4 security digits. I mailed a few times with a salesmen and the only alternative way of paying was paypal (didn't get a reply after I said that regular bank transfer was the only way).

Anyway I went to the bank and they will give me a new card so hopefully i'll be able to purchase whatever I want within a week. I'll post some benchmarks here as soon as i've installed my new metal mod. (I have an option of a piece of brass for 30€, which I'm considering because I will have it a week earlier compared to waiting for my new bank card and ordering from metalcutoffs).

According to this site brass is way worse than aluminium & copper for thermal conducting, do you think the difference will be that big in real life applications?

Cooling Fundamentals: Thermal Conductivity - FrostyTech.com

I already ordered some AS5 from pixmania (I also have some free thermal paste from mxm-upgrade) just to be sure I have the best stuff in there (amazon doesnt ship to belgium, which is why better products like arctic mx-3 won't reach the belgian market for a few more years ), so all I have to do now is wait. Quite horrible to have an awesome hd 4670 in your laptop, while not being able to use it

 

Still waiting on my heatsink and GPU lol.

Ice-tea, i'm surprised you don't hold a couple of MXM-A HD4670 1GB GDDR3 cards.

 

Unfortunately, I can't stock every card in existance. My suppliers accept the orders I send out now, but only grudgingly. If I need to stock 2 Type A cards volume/card inevitably goes down and they will start refusing orders in the end.

 

Set your temp tool to monitor temps and log it in a file. If you crash out you should be able to recover the last temp. Or game for 30 sec and alt-tab out.

A heatpad is a lot better than a badly placed copper shim. I would *strongly* suggest to check if the pad effectively makes contact with the heatsink (that it is, per example, not shifted or some components keep the sink from being in touch with the pad)...

And if the machine shuts down after a minut, this is not something a copper plate will solve. Obviously copper is way better than a pad, but not *that* much better.

 

Well I am hoping at least one of the new nvidia chips paired with GDDR5 makes it to MXM-A.

 

Hello i am back with a problem :S. My acer 5920g got a 9650m gt and everything fine. Under pressure the high temperature is 85 degrees but i think i have driver problems. Almost everyday when i turn on my laptop the first 4 start is always freeze after login into windows 7 64 bit or after it i got a black screen and nothing. anyone have any solution for this problem?? or anyone who has acer laptop with 9650m gt upgrade have the same problem??? thx for the answer!

 

I did not have any problems of that kind...
I got freezes or blue screen of death only when I was using RMclock for undervolting CPU...

 

what kind of driver do you use??? the latest from NVIDIA & Laptop News | Latest NVIDIA drivers and related news | laptopvideo2go.com witn modified INF file??

 

Добрый день. Я владелец Acer Aspire 7720G-702G50Hm. Какую из оптимальных видеокарт по соотношению цена / скорость Вы мне можете посоветовать? Заранее благодарю.
(Вопрос адресован гуру с сайта mxm-upgrade)

 

maybe in english?

 

I'm surprised how well google translate works:

From the first page of this thread, it looks like a 9600m GT would work, the GDDR3 version is pretty good (lots of them on ebay, so the price is good). But the question isn't addressed to me, so ignore my post

 

I didn't see any info for the Acer Aspire 5680 w/ the GeForce 7600. I just want to verify if it is or isn't a MXM type card.

 

Ok so I finally got my copper today and after installing my ati hd4670, my laptop still shuts down after a few minutes of playing. I checked my temps while gaming and they were around 68 celcius during the first minutes (where my nvidia is immediatly 76-78 celcius). When doing normal stuff (i.e. browsing) my temps are around 52 celcius, compared to 57 celcius with my 8600m gt.

Does anybody know what the problem might be? Ice-Tea recommended I put my temps in a file but since I have a free version of System Information for Windows I can't do this. Do you guys know a program that does not require payment to put your monitored temps in a file?

edit: I just tried again, but not with full hd resolutions and everything works perfect. during cod4 I couldn't reach more than 60 celcius (I remember my nvidia could heat up to 94 celcius with cod4). Then I tried Empie total war, and didn't go above 77 celcius, also without shutting down.
So, my theory is that there's some sort of driver problem which can't display full hd resolutions, but seems to handle everything else just fine. The Copper mod worked perfectly and i'm running my laptop cooler than ever.

I guess I ordered my AS5 for nothing, since I did the current mod with thermal paste from mxm-upgrade.com and it does the job very nicely.

 

GPU-Z Video card GPU Information Utility

Gpu-z


check

"Log to file"
"Continue refreshing this screen while GPU-Z is in the background"

choose a location and it will log untill you close the program.

 

With the help from Ice-Tea we clocked my ati hd 4670 from 400mhz to 675mhz (and voltage from 0.95 to 1.2). After that all I got was a black screen.

To fix this, you need to remove the mobility modder driver which was recommended by mxm-upgrade.com and just download the latest drivers (I had to format my laptop in order to do this) from ati. It seems the mobility modder can't handle the normal ati clocks.

However, because I clocked my ati hd4670 to its normal frequency, it overheats I guess the base clock of 400 mhz was there for a reason.

So, does anybody know an easy program for me to downlock my gpu again? Ice-Tea overclocked mine via remote control (using RBE), so I have no idea how to reverse it.

@Fragzero, Gpu-z does not work for me, because when my laptop gets stuck during gaming due to high temps, my file with temps remains un-updated after I had to manually shut off my laptop.

 

Try editing clock and voltage settings by editing bios and flash an edited version of bios to your card...

 

Well if your laptop hardlocks (everything crashes) there is no way to measure temps except attaching an external sensor.

What is the last temperature you measure?

 

You might need to look into undervolting.

My experience with my own chip (HD4650) was (max clock at each voltage):

1.0V: 600mhz
1.1V: 675mhz
1.2V: 750mhz

Under a tight thermal budget 600mhz at 1.0v runs very cool.

 

I figured out how to over and downclock my card using RBE and winflash. I downclocked it again to 400mhz, but then tried amd tools to run it at 500mhz. I used GPU-Z to monitor my temps, and my game shut froze and I shut down my pc at a temp of 74 celcius, so its not an overheating problem afterall.


Any idea what might be causing these shutdowns? I'm going to try to play at a simple 400 mhz after this post, and hope it won't shut down again (don't understand why it would, since its not the heat).

edit: Ok so even at standard clocks (400mhz) my games freez, regardles of which resolution I use. I triend installing the drivers mxm-upgrade.com recommended but that didnt help.
I think I just have a fawlty gpu. Everytime my gpu reaches 74-75 celcius my games freez

 

In bios you can raise shutdown temperature to avoid the trouble you have...
For my card critical temp is set to 105C and the hottest my card went was 97... But average is 75-80C when playing PES 2010...At idle temp is 48-55...

 

this shutdown temperature is useless because in my gpu bios is set to 105 that is the basic i think and my gpu was 110 and didnot shut down it! but did you try another driver?

 

Maybe you can try this:

Youtube!

The guy in this vid speaks about artifacts and freezing laptop, after that the laptop shut down.

Maybe it helps

 

I'm not sure if it shuts down due to heat, since I just tried playing Empire TW and it shut down at 68 celcius -_-'
I also have no idea how to alter the shutdown temps in my BIOS.

 

CPU getting hot? HDD getting hot?

 

Hi all,
I have an Aspire 5739G. It originally had a GeForce 130m. I have upgraded to a Radeon 4650 DDR2.

Ok, I have a problem though. Does anybody know where to buy a replacement fan for a 5739G? Mine has started to makes horrible noises lately. I have tried eBay and can't find a fan specifically for the laptop and I can't find the specific model number of the fan. I have tried all of the stores that Acer has on their website and can't find anything either. Thanks for anything you can offer.

 

May be you could use fan from the similar model...
I am not sure but anyone knows if the fan from 8935 model would work?

 

Welcome to the forums, iain.lightbody!

Unfortunately, my favourite site for replacement Acer bits, AcerParts.com, has shut down; they only sell Asus parts now (boooo!). You could try to contact Acer Support, ask for the replacement fan to be sent to you and that you'll install it yourself (you might have already voided your warranty by upgrading the GPU anyway).

And interestingly enough, I don't have the 5739G as "confirmed" MXM on my first page. Any chance you could snap some pics of your system's innards so I can confirm it's MXM-A?

 

Check this link:
Review Acer Aspire 5739G Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

It has few photos which could be useful...
As I could notice it has MXM slot A...

 

System with the card.


The system without the card.


The card itself.


MXM Type A Connector

 

Brilliant work, Iain! Just edit your post to use thumbnails instead of the full-size images, as it stretches the forum's formatting.
I'll edit my top post and include your upgrade.

@Arminator: D'oh.

 

I e-mailed Acer to ask if they could sell me a replacement fan. Here's hoping they will.

 

That means what?

 

That means I missed that completely.

 

Nope all my temps are fine (hdd 50 celcius, cpu is reaching +-70 like it always did).

 

50c is getting a little hot for the HDD I think.

 

My HDD is about 35 celcius, maybe your hdd is getting to hot. I don't know how many heat the HDD can handle

 

yes that is quite high temp for HDD...

my temps are when disk is not under load average 35 C and when under load it doesn`t go beyond 41-42 C...

May be you should consider that point to...

 

My hdd has always been 50 celcius, and it also reaches those temps with my nvidia 8600mgt, yet my pc only freezes when I use my ati hd 4670.