Acer MXM Models and Cards

@CROSSFIRE_GTI - I'm looking forward for your result Could you take pictures as well?

@Meaker - Congrats BTW C90 has a real MXM in there

 

Yes, C90 is definitely real MXM - in fact, I'm using a 8600GT taken from a C90 in my Aspire 5720G with no BIOS mods needed.

 

My 6770m is in Dubai. All I can do is wait.
I will post some gaming benchmarks of this card as soon as I get it, in 1366X768 and in 1920X1080.
Games that I will be posting benchmarks for are as follows:
Battlefield Bad Company 2
Assassins Creed: Brotherhood
Battlefield Heroes
Crysis
Crysis 2
Portal 2

If you have any request just ask me here or PM me.

 

Anyone has any information about this card?
Acer 5520G 5920G nVidia GT 240M 1GB DDR3 MXM II VGA Card

This is the same card that was sold on eBay a while ago. According to the pic there ( http://67.18.131.251/images/mac_parts_hq/257_c90s_gt240m_top.jpg), it is _not_ a BIOS-less card (the chip in the top-left corner is an AT25F512AN - a typical VBIOS chip).

The seller claims full 5520G and 5920G compatibility, which I highly doubt (since these 2 are perhaps the most picky Acers - though 5920G might work with my MXM structure fix); however it would be interesting to test this card in an 5 720G, which is known to accept almost any MXM card.

 

interesting - im tempted.

seeing as this is only ~$50 more than C1 9600GT

 

It's an ASUS card. I think that it was proven NOT to work, but it was only tested on ASUS C90. I can't remember but I think that it was BIOSless. It is possible that someone have soldered an EEPROM, flashed a BIOS and voila, but who knows?

Here's the topic.

Edit: I just passed through the topic a C90 8600M was tested on M60 and it didn't work. After all if there is someone brave enough to pull the trigger, we'll get an answer

 

This is an ASUS card, but it is *not* the same card as the one tested in that topic - that one was for the M60j, and had a blue PCB. This one has a green PCB, and according to the silkscreen, it is for a laptop named "M90Gn".

 

First of all, you guys are so good, that after almost 3 weeks lurking in Internet/Google I'm coming over and over back here!
So your verdict is "Guilty", because you made me make an account here!

Now bare the consequences (me)!

Anyway - IMHO, MXM II is unexplored jungle for geeks like you and thus - for me.

What you guys think about this products/seller?
Looks like complete salad of letters and digits to me.

Generally - is it possible for some factories to start making high end video cards for MXM II slots?

 

Am I missing something really stupid cause I cant get windows to recognize the 6770m graphics card after I put it in the slot. Also it ran really hot. Help me....

btw my bios(the oem one) shows the ATI BIOS number but cant recognize that IT IS AN ATI CARD?? The Catalyst software didnt do anything. It didnt even open UP??

 

Like I said in my email you need to provide PRECISE details.

Like did the graphics driver install, what version you used, error messages etc.

How did you know it was hot?

 

Alright. I downloaded the catalyst pro control center released on 9th of this month. Installed all the bundled softwares that came with it.
And then I tried to install the catalyst mobility software but it says, "ATI catalyst mobility can not be downloaded due to incompatible hardware/software on your computer." I tried to install it before anything else but got the same error.

 

Like in my PM get a direct download from someone.

The downloader does not like to recognise it.

The control centre is useless without a driver since all it does is switch values in the drivers. It wont load without one installed.

 

Thanks meaker I got it to work, I didnt know ATI pulled this kind of crap on its users lol. my first ati anything. But im a fan now.
now time to upgrade the processor

 

So the 6770m worked in your 5739G without any modification?

 

Looks like it!

Also I don't think it's ATI, just our non standard setup.

 

It sure did. All i had to do was what Meaker told me. Download the catalyst software directly from AMD. Theres a direct link in our forums somewhere if you search google.
Or, http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/577183-amd-catalyst-mobility-whql-11-5-hotfix.html

Got 6.9 rating for both Aero performance and 3d performance.

The seller is very nice btw. He is very friendly like all other Chinese sellers as I have learned from experience.
I will post some game benchmarks soon with my crappy 2.1ghz processor, and let you know how it works out.

Tempwise - 53 idle. Im gonna go see how high it goes.

 

Hi! Sometimes ago I changed my Nvidia 8600m gt on my Acer Aspire 7520g with a Nvidia 9650m gt, it worked very good. Now my notebook is broken, problem with motherboard. I want to buy a new one. Do you know some NEW notebook which come with MXM video card?
Thank!

 

No Acers.

You have to look at MSI, some Asus, Alienware, Clevo or Sager.

 

Hey Meaker, did ATI identify the card as a FIREPRO one? Cause it says so in the catalyst software

 

Why especially an Asus machine? My mxm 2.1 socket is fully unlocked just like with the 5920g.

Is there still a possibility the pinout might be compatible with mxm 3.0?

I have the guts to try a change on the mobo no problem

 

Most Asus ones use a flipped module.

AFAIK the pinout is different, the slot is longer.

 

No, MXM3.0 has a completely different socket, with a higher pin count than MXM2.1.

 

Fair enough. I think I am going to try to upgrade to a mxm III card Need to do a bit of a modification to free up to 10cm needed to fit the new card. Hopefully though I will be chugging along under 4850 power in no time

If successful this of course means my incredibly rare MXM II 2.1 MSI Mobility Radeon 4670 512mb GDDR3 would be up for sale...

 

Isn't the 4850 MXM-HE?

 

Nope the msi version I intend to get my hands on is 512mb and definitely mxm III. Seen the piccy.

If you take a look at the guts of my laptop though (in thread linked in sig) you can see the cpu mounting plate for the heatsink needs to be shaved by a few mm to make space for a 10cm long card

 

Good luck! I had the same idea and the same problem with the cpu heatsink but decided not to try in the end, not enough coolingcapacity.

Seems your plan might work! You have a little bit more space and could mill a few mm off the cpu heatsink if needed.

Lets hope it boots in your pc!

 

@King of Interns If all goes well, I would love to buy that sweet ATI 4670 card of yours

 

If it works it is all yours lizzard! CPU heatsink now milled Now have 9.9cm space... getting extra 1mm is going to be very tough indeed!

Until I firstly have a 4850 and secondly as Fragzero says it boots and doesn't fry in my laptop or indeed the laptop haha can't say when or indeed if the 4670 will be up for sale. Patience is a virtue though. I am going full steam ahead on this mod currently so once I have the card shouldn't be long till I know of its success

 

Omg that is going to be such a SICK upgrade if works Me green with envy!! Wish I had an mxm 3 slot. That card is as powerful as a GTX260M, on a 3 year old lappie, Unbelievable! Goes well with your crazy cooling mod as well

 

Don't forget 3.5ghz quad too Fan mod =crazy but necessary

Your machine does have a mxm III slot. Question is does it have the space...? There is no specific slot for mxm 2.1 I/ II/III all same. Only HE and IV and slightly different

 

Yeah desktop quad is INSANE! Now Im itching to get an extreme proc LOL

Really? Didn't know the slots were the same Well I just had a quick look at my mobo. There is definately no space for a larger mxm III card, Unless I rip out a capacitor, the CMOS battery and probably a RAM slot haha. Not to mention probably an 'extreme' makeover to the cooling system
Well well Lucky you!

Evilly eyeing that HD4670 Probably the last mxm upgrade I can get for my ancient lappie.

 

Is that all you need to do

Just think one thing at a time ....

 

What about the Asus-made GT240M DDR3 (that is actual JEDEC PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM on that card, not GDDR3!) I posted earlier?

 

Lets hope your laptop can supply enough power to run the 4850!

How much watt can your current psu supply? Desktop quad + 4850 has to be at a decent lvl!

And any pics of the heatsink mod?

 

Power supply is 180W universal targus. So hopefully enough power. MXM 2.1 slot I think is rated to supply up to 65W power. The 4870 is rated at 65W so I can imagine the 4850 coming in under 60W

Btw I have seen a seller on ebay selling my card! Yes the 4670 512mb GDDR3 mxm 2.1 II

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4870 MXM 3.0 Type B not 5870 | eBay UK

Not obvious but one of the cards looks like mine and is described correctly! Doesn't state price though. Someone must jump at this opportunity to grab an upgrade!

 

@ .NetRolller 3D I think the GT240M is still below the HD4670. It's worth a shot though, but it's not a very huge increase compared to the 9600mgt I currently have.

@King of Interns Are you referring to the ATI HD4670 mentioned in the description section?

 

Yeah. Also he shows the three cards in a photo side by side. The 4670 512mb GDDR3 is the last one on the right with the green PCB. Looks identical to mine.

Best chance I have seen thus far on ebay of a genuine GDDR3 4670

I too also think the GT240M a risky upgrade. MXM 2.1 II nvidia GPU's are much more fiddly to get working than their ATI counter-parts. The 4670 is simply plug and play then install drivers. Couldn't be simpler.

Personally I have had bad experience trying to get a 9650M GT 512mb GDDR3 card working full speed and someone else had same difficulties with a GT130M. Steer clear of nvidia unless you have no choice in this situation.

@Lizzarddos if I were you I would contact the seller right away for confirmation of the card and its price.

 

Cool Sent the seller a request might be worth a shot.

Btw if you don't mind me asking, where did you get the uber rare Ati card from and how much roughly am I looking at? Not wanting to be ripped off

 

Btw those are some amazing clocks on your 9600M GT don't think I have seen higher!. What score you pushing? 7500 3dmarks?
780mhz/1000mhz is pretty enviable....! I can do about 790 on core stable personally but 15mhz short of 1000mhz lol on memory

Considering that it is in the enviable position of being best in class and rare I am not entirely sure. At least 150-200 dollars/pounds (I spent about 160 pounds) direct from a source i cannot really name via a couple of other forum members. Took months and months and was a difficult process hehe

 

hello guys i need some advice. today i have open my laptop back to blow out the fan with kompressor and when i put the back of the laptop back and turn on my laptop. i have seen my wifi isnot working. i have open my laptop back again and reinsert my wifi card but it still dont working. any idea?

i have the same type of laptop like triturbo an acer 5920g.
and another question what is this cable on the picture that i point on it:

 

Yeah that's from my ex 9600M GT. It was a C1 revision which I reckon is from a macbook pro. The highest I saw was someone on a Macbook pro with 780/1050/1850. I got 8k 3dMarks I think I'm gonna try baking the card to see if it will get rid of the artifacts.

I got a replacement 9600M GT which is a A1 revision and it is crap. Max overclock I could do is 700/850/1600 at 1.16v. It uses Samsung chips instead of Hynix. Almost cried

Saw the thread of the other forum members regarding the upgrade. Didn't know it's such a difficult process. That does cost quite a bit but doesn't matter, not quite happy with the current card.

 

Yeah? I think my 4670 uses samsung also not sure though. Rated at 1000mhz so 985.5mhz isn't far off. Then again the extra shaders roughly 66 of nvidia's and newer core architecture brings performance up in games too.

I haven't done a 3dmark06 test since upgrading to X3380 perhaps I am nearly at 8000 at stock

 

I think Hynix chips are much better quality.

I'm so gonna get my grubby hands on one of these cards and max that baby out.

 

Just a quick question how is your cooling? The 4670 is a step up in performance sure but also a step up in heat production!

I can keep temps well under with my as you put it crazy cooling however if I let my fans run at slowest speed (3V vs 12V) the GPU temp keeps climbing until it gets into 80s and probably even 90s depending on game at stock 675/800. Continually improving your cooling is paramount to success here! Kiss goodbye to any sort of stable OC otherwise!

 

Surprisingly it's been pretty good, considering its just a single fan/heatpipe combo, not gazillion number of fans hanging out the back

Here is a summary I posted in another thread:

Stock clocks
Idle:46-49c
Peak:63c

Oc'd (650/850/1625)
Idle:49-50c
Peak:66c

Old card, C1 version, Oc'd (780/1000/1800)
Idle:53c
Peak:70-72c

If I need extra cooling (desperate measures), I'll just leave the backplate open with a notebook cooler(3 fans) blowing directly on to the heatsinks. I'll tried it before and crysis 2 managed to push it to a maximum of 54c

Yiipee to crazy cooling

 

I only have 1 heatpipe 1 fan for GPU also. Airflow from other 3 does help though lol

As for your cooling that is good. 70-72 with heavily OC 9600M GT. You will probs get about 80-85C with 4670 at stock clocks as the voltage kicks in at 1.2V! Other than doing what you have already suggested I also suggest placing a few ram heatsinks on top of your GPU heatspreader and also along the heatpipe to dissapate heat a bit more quickly. Also you can undervolt the card to 1.1V at stock clocks and run stable no problem. 1.2V is only needed when overclocking.

The card when in idle mode will kick down to 0.9-1V and 220/250 to save power so very cool. 37C currently for me with fans at lowest speed

 

Great! Thanks for the awesome tips. 1.2v is higher than my current card at 1.16v.

Now to get my hands on the bloody card

 

I am of the same thoughts exactly

 

Ha, if you thought the 4670 ran hot, wait till you try the 4850!

 

I barely can wait mate

Personally I think the 4670 runs cold! Tops out at 58C in furmark on extreme-burn at OC at native 1680x1050. That's 30C heatroom in the bank and I haven't even run out of options yet to improve cooling haha!