Acer MXM Models and Cards

Best MXM-A card, then yes.

 

I see, thanks

 

@.NetRolller 3D: where can i find it? ^^

 

Find what?

 

the idle is a litte higher now, now its around 52 degrees

 

.NetRoller 3D can you post a link to that topic? Had a look but was unable to find it. I found a VBIOS for the HD 3470 on VGA Bios Collection, not necessary to flash to this?
Thanks.

 

@giovanz: http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/575866-possible-fix-acer-x920g-vs-geforce-9600m-gt-issue.html

@raserdk: Thanks! Unfortunately, this is not a true MXM BIOS (no MXM structure parsing), so compatibility with other Acers may be a gamble.

 

thanks .NetRoller, but didn't seem to work for me. You got any other suggestions? I was thinking of flashing the vbios but I have no display coming from my screen or external screen whatsoever! So can't really see what I'm doing. If I put the old 8400M GS back in, the laptop starts loading but then goes all fuzzy and crashes

 

^ ^
There are Acer compatible vBIOS and then there are Acer vbios.

You can check the 3470 vBIOS from the database and from you card, if you can back it up. I don't know how to do it exactly with ATIflash and RBE.
not an ati person lol

What about the 6770m?

 

Last time I checked it was made by ATI, not Nvidia.

 

I just died there

 

Hello to all!
Sorry for my english.
I've an 5920g and I think to change my video card:now I've an ati 3570 (256MB).First I had an 8600m gt512,but it die....
I've seen this 240m card on ebay and I was diffident.But now,I know it does really work!
I've not notice if it's an original,native,Asus mxmII card or a "china mod" with a 240m chip soldered in a 8600m/9600m pcb,but however it seems to work.
Do you have realized the copper mod?
Does it work fine with 3d applicative?
Does it have significative more performance than a 8600m gt or ati mobility HD3650?
Thanks

 

Absolutely! Much more powerful than the 8600M GT and HD3650. In fact the only card that is more powerful is the HD4670 GDDR3 card which is very rare and difficult to get hold of.

Very much a viable upgrade I recommend it very highly indeed while stocks last!

Simply ask for the copper shim when you order the card so you get it with the card. Either way it has been tested in both acer 5920g and asus C90 with success

I know this card is capable of also being overclocked very well. stock 550/790. Possible OC 700+/1030+!!

 

Haha. So you're the one who specified nvidia.

I have an fx 1800m gddr5... If the core was like the gts 250m with 96 sp it would be as good as the gts 360m pretty much.

But I think the gt 555m will probably be the best since it was released in the m14x it should be available soon.

Other than that, well, you have the Quadro 2000m don't you?

 

I would love to buy anything better then GTS 250 as long as it is nVidia

Also, Quadro 2000m? me?

 

hi, i have a Acer Extensa 5630G-644G32Mn and hd3470 MXMII and i am thinking to buy a hd 3650 and i saw this card from a toshiba A300-1ID




it will fit?

tank you

sorry my english

 

It I'm not mistaken Toshiba cards don't have BIOS chip on board so it won't work.

 

it's have to be a HD3650 from acer laptop?

 

No. It has to be a HD3650 from anything other than Toshiba. (Also, stick with standard-shaped MXM cards unless you really know what you are doing.)

 

Yeah it's a custom PCB without even a space to put your own bios on.

 

Try the HP v700 or v5700 and make sure it has a BIOS chip.

I mean it exists.
Its sold with the Elitebook 8560w

 

HD5870 on the way, let's see if this works.

 

Hi guys, if this had been already answer i'm sorry but i can't read all the posts.

My Acer 5920G-602G25Mn with a 8600M GT GPU seams to die so i need upgrade it, i see on 1st post that the options are:Upgrade to HD 3650, Upgrade to HD 4650, Upgrade to HD 4670, Upgrade to 9650M GT

But Seams HD 4670 and 9650MGT have eat problems and hight temps (im my Acer always have bad temps).

So i whan't to know of this upgrades is the better in terms of: fast switch (don't need Bios changes or news copper plats or whatever) and give most estability.

For more infos abut my problem: http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/592254-help-5920g-users-pls.html

I already search for the cards you say to fit this models but normaly i find the same card but MXM-A and not MXM-II this is the same or means other thing?!

Thanks in advance and i'mm with Hurry because i can't stay without PC

 

Perhaps you should give the Asus 240M GT a look too. Has been confirmed to work earlier in this thread.

EDIT: Also, another success report: Aspire 5720ZG (and by extension, 5720G, 7720G and 7720ZG as well - these use the same motherboard and BIOS) working perfectly with an HP Quadro FX 770M, using this new VBIOS (not a mod - this is what the card originally came with). No 30-second beeping, and no throttling to "Balanced" speeds. Power consumption dropped sharply compared to the previous 8600M GT - battery now lasts over 4 hours, idle power usage now 15W (was 19W with 8600M GT).

 

Thanks for the advice but for what i search no one as upgrade 8600M GT for a 240M GT... And my acer use MXM-II and that card is MXM-A this isn't a problem?! I search on google for diferences between type A and II of MXM but i don't find nothing can some one explain me that pls?!

Another thing i have Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2 T7500 this can be a problem for updates ome better cards or not?!

And for last if i put a DDR3 or GDDR2 or GDDR3 card there are no problems?! If they are better maybe motherbord will not suport the card no?! (Sorry for the dumb questions)

 

There was a MXM-II GT 240M mentioned earlier in this thread. It was confirmed to work in the 5920G. The MXM-A version won't even fit physically.

The CPU does not limit in any way what MXM you can install.

The memory type on the MXM card is irrelevant for motherboard compatibility - the motherboard will never address that memory. Any standard MXM card of the right size (MXM-I or II) should work - though some pickier cards may need my BIOS mod. Note that the GT 240M is not a standard MXM card (VBIOS never calls the MXM interrupt to discover its hardware environment, among others), but it was confirmed to work on the 5920G.

 

I already see on ebay and some oline stores and the only Card i see is the HD4670 but is a little expensive. But i will se what is the better option for my budget and i will ask here tif is a good choice, and if DDR2/3 or GDDR2/3 isn't a problem for the PC i think is better get a 1GB dedicated DDR3 ou GDD2 right?


Well i was looking on ebay and internet and the only card i can find is the one from MXM-Upgrade but 200€ for a HD 4670 seams to much :S

No one have a seller that can sell me a good GPU for my Acer 5920G!?

Another thing the HD 4670 dont put the PC too hot!?

Thanks for your help

 

After a lot of search the only options i have to switch my dead 8600M GT are this and this

For what i search seams that the 2nd card the 256 DDR3 is rather than the 1GB DDR2 but the price is much more for the 1GB so what this two cards is the best?

The both are good for Acer 5920G right?

Thanks again guys

 

HD3650 is not a fast card so it won't be able to run any games that require such a large textures that would fill out 1GB. DDR3 is much faster so even though there's less of the memory overall experience will be better with 256MB of DDR3 than with 1GB of DDR2.

 

That isn't a problem because my 8600M GT was enough for me so this should be too.

Thanks for the quick answer

 

do we have any pictures of it?is it gona have the same interface and size like the 6770m?

 

Hello, i recently bought a GT 240m for my 5920g, it works fine but i had to manually edit a couple of .inf files of the nvidia drivers to get them installed.
I saw that here someone owns the same card, is this the normal procedure to follow or there is a simpler method to fix the problem?
Thanks

 

How is the temps of this card? Do you use the original cooler of 5920G?

Another thing guys, this card is rather then ATI HD 3650 256 DDR3?! Or the 256 DDR3 is better?

I don't see no one use the HD 4570 on a 5920G but it should work right?

 

That card is incompatible with AS 5920G since it uses MXM 3.0 A slot.
The one on AS 5920G is MXM II slot.
When searching on ebay just type in "MXM II" and you will get list of (mostly) compatible cards with your laptop.

Cheers

 

The link i gave for the card is for the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 MXM Type II Video Card VGA so fit on my Acer 5920G i only dont't know is better then a HD 3650 256mb DDR3

 

The 3650 (120 stream processors) is better than the 4570 (80 streams). The 4650 (320 streams) and the GT240M (48 shaders, equivalent to 240 ATI stream processors) trumps both, though.

Also, a success report: Travelmate 7720G (also, TM 5720G, Extensa 5620G - same motherboard) partially confirmed with 9600M GT @ http://forum.notebookreview.com/ace...vs-geforce-9600m-gt-issue-21.html#post7694999 - the remaining issues seem to be due to a defective card (or maybe I made a mistake in the MXM structure's descriptor for the internal display).

 

Although I heard the GDDR3 4570 performs similar to and sometimes better than the older 3650 despite the lower shader count and memory bandwidth.

 

I use the default cooler with a copper shim for the core, my 240m has a temperature of about 50° C in idle, and during a test with Furmark the temp has reached a peak of 93° C, i think it's not bad, especially now that there is a room temperature of about 32°C

 

Hum that is very good temps, my 8600M GT get temps about 90ºC-100ºC whne play CS or League of Legends and are games not to much heavy!!!

You buy your 240m from ebay? I don't find none

 

Seems like the seller is out of stock.

However, this site still has it: Asus C90S C90P nVidia GT 240M 1GB DDR3 MXM II VGA Card

 

It was a duff card in the end, no it's an MXM-B card.

 

Just got a 3650 GDDR2 to replace a 8600GT on my 5920G, the problem is the GPU from ATI is much lower than the NVIDIA..so i had to put a bunch (a lot, really!) of thermal paste in the heatsink to the ATI GPU be in touch with the thermal paste.

But with so much thermal paste, its not cooling at all, tried only starting Windows in VGA mode 640x480...the temps were around 80ºC in idle

What can i do to increase the contact area between the GPU and heatsink?

 

You need a copper shim.

 

Thanks for replying..

The problem is where i get this copper shim. What thickness should i look for?

I tried with aluminium tape, i got worse temps.

 

i think see on ebay. i am using a nvidia 9650m gt in my acer 5920g and my coppershim thickness 0.8 mm. and i checked it the radeon 3650 and the nvidia 9650m gt is the same technology :55 nm so you need a 0.8-1.0 mm copper shim.

 

Yes, i bought mine from ebay, the item was this

 

Theres far too many responses to see if this has already been posted but just adding that I successfully replaced the GPU in the 6935g with a Nvidia Quadro 770m 512 ddr3.

Unexpectedly I am getting the same gaming benchmarks in 3dmark06 as i did with the 9600m gt 512 ddr3 as well as the much improved open gl performance

Installation isnt a perfect swap out due to the 9600 using a slightly different shaped frame to hold it, I ended up having to put the 9600 frame on the card with a few cuts off of thermal pads between the underside of the card and the frame which stopped the metal frame making contact with the solder/components.

p.s. temps are around 50 idle/65-75 stressed with artic silver 5 thermal paste - very slightly higher than the 9600 but well within safety limits and considering its 35watts compared the the 23watts of the 9600 thats not too bad at all.

 

@kelpi: Which VBIOS version did you get with the 770M?

BTW, I believe both cards have the same TDP - 23 watts dissipation, with 35 watts total power uptake.

 

hey Net

the vbios version is: 62.94.1c.00.00 according to the system topology in the nvidia control panel. I was asked what make/model of laptop it was when ordering it from the seller so i do think that the bios has been flashed for compatibility on the 6935g. Checked the cards fcc no and the chip no to make sure it was an orginal 770m card and not a flashed 9600.

Using the 1.20 acer bios

I extracted the bios to put on a stick for backup a while back so if you need the bios i can arrange that.

regarding the TDP, that makes sense, i know they are pretty much the same card with the components that test better going to the quadro's the only thing that phased me there was notebook check having a couple of entry's for the 9600, one saying its 55nm and the other saying 65nm, and the 770m being 65nm.

 

Can you upload that VBIOS somewhere? It is an as of yet unknown version.

9600M GTs with the chip "G96-630- C1" are a 55nm die shrink, while "G96-630- A1" is the original 65nm version. AFAIK there exists no "G96-975-C1" chip for the FX770M.