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    Acer MXM Models and Cards

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by TehSuigi, Jul 4, 2009.

  1. Xynder

    Xynder Newbie

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    Oh dear. This can't be good news, can it? Nvidia doesn't state which MXM type it comes in, so I guess I'd have to wait for the warranty to expire before I tinker with it. I'll find out by middle of next year, though.
     
  2. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    The G 105M is probably an MXM-A card - the 3.0 standard has only two sizes, A and B.
    There are upgrades possible for MXM-A too - either the ATi Radeon HD 4570 DDR2 or the Nvidia GeForce GT 130M DDR2 from the Aspire 5935G. Heck, the Radeon HD 4670 GDDR3 might be compatible!

    BUT the only way to know for sure is to open up your system and share some pics with us.
     
  3. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Definitely not. This is actually what happens when word goes out that MXM 2.1 cards are easily upgraded--they upgrade to a new formfactor to delay further upgrades (and loss of sales) for at least a couple of months/years.

    And of course the added bonus that the GPU's will be faster and smaller. :D
     
  4. Xynder

    Xynder Newbie

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    I think I'll wait for NVidia's 40nm mobile GPUs, since I think a GT 130M might melt my laptop. I'll wait for my warranty to expire before opening my laptop, then I'll post the pics up.
     
  5. Nm1

    Nm1 Notebook Consultant

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    I've seen an Acer Aspire 6930g model with g105m so it should be mxm-II
     
  6. Nm1

    Nm1 Notebook Consultant

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    You should buy ati 4650 ddr2 from acer
     
  7. mookill

    mookill Notebook Geek

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    trawling through the eurocom.com site.

    the 15" M860TU Montebello has the option for:

    1GB GDDR3 GTX 260M Nvidia GeForce; MXM 2.1 Type III

    if i understand this correctly - i could have the possibilty of whacking this into my 8920G provided i can find a matching vBios?
     
  8. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    Possible, yes. Plausible? Not really. Acers tend to be picky about whose vBIOSes they accept.
    Unless Gateway released a 1GB GDDR3 GTX 260M, no dice.
     
  9. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    6935G works with the 9600GS and HD 4650.
     
  10. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    Meaker, can you get me links to prove it? Thanks.
     
  11. Jonmcgarry

    Jonmcgarry Newbie

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    Hey Guys

    I have been following this thread for awhile .
    Just wondering will the 4650 work in my Acer 9920g currently has a 8600gt 512mb. I haven't seen alot around about the 9920 doesn't seem to be that popular. Any help is appreciated .

    Thanks Jon
     
  12. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hi Jon, and welcome to the forums!
    You are right in that the 9920G doesn't get much love, likely due to its gargantuan proportions (not even the 89xx series are that big!).
    My sources show that at least the 9920G has an MXM-II slot, so the upgrade is possible; but it hasn't been sold with any other cards.
    There's a chance that the 9920G's BIOS is heavily locked-down and would only accept a GeForce 8600M GT, but it's worth a shot.
    Especially considering how good the Radeon HD 4650 is.
     
  13. Jonmcgarry

    Jonmcgarry Newbie

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    Thanks for the response mate . . Do you have the link for that 4650 where I wud buy it ? I guess no one has a spare one lying around :p I cud just try. anyway thanks the replying .

    Later Jon
     
  14. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    Here or here - as far as I can tell, the two parts are identical.
    Just make sure to mention that you're buying it to replace the card in your Aspire 6930G; they might not sell it to you otherwise.
     
  15. moelda

    moelda Notebook Geek

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    I've got an Acer 8730G with the BIOS v1.05 but they released the v1.09 (I think) a few weeks back.
    I bought the 9600GT ( will come next week hopefully)
    Should I flash the BIOS or wait to see if the GPU works with my current version???
     
  16. krissbay

    krissbay Newbie

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    Anybody who knows if the Acer Aspire 5535 has a MXM slot ?? ;)
     
  17. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    No, Krissbay. The Aspire 5535 does not.
    The 5535 G should, however; but you need to have a dedicated GPU in your system in the first place to get the MXM slot.
     
  18. krissbay

    krissbay Newbie

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    THx for the answer ;)
     
  19. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    You can add HD4670 in the 5920G's compatibility list, TehSuigi :D
     
  20. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    Pass a link to the upgrade post, and I'll do it. What a find!
     
  21. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Thanks, I'll make a topic soon. Great find indeed, I'm still grinning :D
     
  22. VTS

    VTS Notebook Enthusiast

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    where you have bought it, and how much u paid it?

    i have an acer 6930g with version bios 3236, i have tryed all'nvidia 9xxxM gs gt and ati mobility 4570 and ati 4650 , all worhs, but i like ati 4670 gddr3 from msi

    thanks
     
  23. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Woooow. :D is it an Acer-BIOS 4670? Congrats!
     
  24. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    @VTS - Sorry, that's a PM information only and you don't have access to that option yet :)

    @kisetsu17 - Nope, MSI vBIOS and I have troubles while trying to flash it (I want to undervolt it) :(
     
  25. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Can you PM me those infos instead? lol

    Well at least it works with it! But how hot does it get though?
     
  26. EchoShade

    EchoShade Notebook Evangelist

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    On mine it pushes slightly over 90C.
     
  27. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Here is the link, TehSuigi.

    Mine runs cooler now :)
     
  28. salykin75

    salykin75 Newbie

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    Hi everybody.
    I have a problem with video card upgrade.
    On my Acer Aspire 7520G instead of Nvidia GeForce 8600m GS i installed ATI Radeon HD 3650 256Mb DDR3.
    But in bios I could see that i have 0 Mb video memory and VGA bios version is a set of strange symbols.
    Drivers were installed but the videocard working worse than Nvidia.
    Also have MCP temperature not less than 82 degree C.
    What I should I do ?
    thanks in advance for your comments
     
  29. TehSuigi

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    That's the problem with these MXM upgrades; they are NEVER guaranteed to work perfectly.
    You're still putting the graphics card from one laptop into another one, and any number of things can be different: component clearance, BIOS, fan speeds, thermal sensors, etc. ad nauseum.

    I'd make sure your HD 3650 has an Acer vBIOS.
     
  30. salykin75

    salykin75 Newbie

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    Thanks for answer.
    Could You please give some additional information what and how should I do and.
    I understand that I need to flush my laptop bios. but before I should add ATI video card support in it.
    Unfortunately I don't have any Idea how to do it.
    Maybe You know?
    Thanks in advise
     
  31. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    First, make sure that you wiped all of the GPU drivers good, with a program like Driver Sweeper under Save Mode.

    Second, you can try to flash your vBIOS with one of the BIOSes posted in this topic :)

    From where you got your GPU, it could be ES, or even worst, it could be faulty.
     
  32. salykin75

    salykin75 Newbie

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    Ok thanks a lot.
    I'll try.
     
  33. baldclimber

    baldclimber Newbie

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    My 8730 (NOT 8730 G) came with a MXM-II 9300M GS 512MB DDR2. :rolleyes:
    I've recently upgraded it a MXM-III 9600M GT 512MB GDDR3. :D
    I'm trying to get to the bottom of a stability issue. BSOD during 3DMark06 testing if I OC the card. I suspect the stock 90W PS needs to be upgraded to a 120W. I'll eventually get around to writing a guide.
     
  34. TehSuigi

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    The labelling's been inconsistent (my Aspire 6920G omits the G on its palm rest badge), but if you've got a dedicated GPU, you've got a G model my friend.
    Congrats on the upgrade, though. Check back when you've figured it out, and I'll link it.
     
  35. Crusnik

    Crusnik Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have an acer aspire 5536-5883 laptop with the ati radeon hd 3200 gpu in it.Would i be able to upgrade it at all?
     
  36. sgogeta4

    sgogeta4 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    No, you won't be able to upgrade b/c the HD 3200 is an integrated GPU.
     
  37. Crusnik

    Crusnik Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ah so there isn't a slot for one? because I was looking around and my chipset supports hybrid crossfireX according to ati/amd's site but there is no sticker for it on my laptop. :confused:
     
  38. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Your 9300M GS is an MXM-II? Mine is an MXM-I..hmm..

    I'm looking to get just a 9600M GT instead of hoping too hight for an ATI4650 or 4670 lol.. But isn't the 9600M GT a choosy card? Or is it just with the 5920G that the thing isn't compatible?
     
  39. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    Crusnik, just because your chipset supports Hybrid CrossFire doesn't mean your motherboard does. If Acer didn't provide an MXM slot (and it never does on its integrated GPU models), you can't use it.
     
  40. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Well there is no such thing as MXM- III 9600M GT, so I guess, he just added one "I" after both GPUs (MXM-I->MXM-II and MXM-II->MXM-III) :D

    If I recall correctly Meaker had one 9600M GT running in his 5520G, but it was in incompatibility mode. Means - 30 seconds boot delay, and running with battery mode clocks. The second is fixable (BIOS editing), but the first - not. ASUS C90s runs it this way too, and you already know how 5920G is running it... it doesn't :D To sum-up, if your laptop hasn't version with 9600M GT in there, it's strongly NOT advisable to go with 9600M GT :)
     
  41. Crusnik

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    OK was just askingbeen bothering me for a while. Thank you for your help. :D
     
  42. moelda

    moelda Notebook Geek

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    ....and Why would that be????
     
  43. baldclimber

    baldclimber Newbie

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    Moelda, was the 9600M GT stock or did you upgrade to it? Have you tried OC'ing it? Do you have a 90W or 120W PS?
     
  44. moelda

    moelda Notebook Geek

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    I got it from Ebay last week. I do have a 90W and no, I haven't OC it.... yet!
    I have basically upgraded everyrthing there is to.... lol
    The next and FINAL thing will be a Solid State Drive... when the prices go down a bit
     
  45. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    IIRC, only the 9600M GT acts up like this, right? Why, oh why?? Lol well I'm guessing there's something common with Asus C90, Aspire 5920G and 5520G..hmm perhaps they are all PM965 or PM945 chipsets?

    And it's dang hard to look for a 4670! lol if only the 4650 weren't that expensive.
     
  46. nklive

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    I just had a look in the Acer product page and they have put the specs of the 5940G. It has Intel i7 M720 and ATI 4650 1GB DDR3 and it costs here in UK around £1100. So I was wondering, if anyone knows what type of MXM card the ATI is.
    I bet it's MXM 3 type A since Acer is moving to that type of MXM cards but if anyone has this laptop, can they confirm what's the MXM type?
     
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  48. TehSuigi

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    The 5940Gs are just starting to enter the marketplace - it's probably MXM-A, as the switch started with the 8935G and associated models.
    No confirmation yet, though.
     
  49. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    That link..kinda looks like one of the proliferate eBay sellers that sell MXM 2.1 formfactor cards.. ALthough there aren't any up on ebay yet. Wait, which laptops had HD4650's with DDR3, anyway??

    EDIT: And there's an MXM-II HD4850? So does this mean the 4650/70 isn't the strongest MXM-II? :eek:
     
  50. moelda

    moelda Notebook Geek

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    Even though I am not an ATI fan... I wouldn't mind trying one of those out...
     
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