Acer MXM Models and Cards

I think he meant form-factor 2 as in MXM 2.1 since the 4850 should be a MXM-III card.

 

I mailed an inquiry to the seller, since there aren't much details about the cards there.

But are there supposed to be 512MB DDR3 HD4650 cards in MXM? I thought they were only found on soldered HP GPU's.

 

Ok, for the 8930G users I have some good and bad news!

I've bought a ati HD 3870 mxm 2.1 III card from ebay.

It is from an alienware lappie. Just tried the card and it works! No warning screens no BS.

But the rear mounting plate for the ati is different from the nvidia. So I need the get a second mounting plate and take it apart for the heatsink to be mounted propperly. Doen anyone know what the partnumber for that is or where I can buy a mountingplate?

I just applied a thick layer of mx-2 to test it for a short time because the heatsink was kinda loose. So I could not test it long enough to make any benches... Was worried it might toast itself.

 

Try a copper mod to fill the gaps.

 

no its not that. The rear mounting plate is different from the one on the 9700m gt. On the back of the card are transistors . This is different from the nvidia.

 

nvidia gt 240M standard mxm II

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5472463#post5472463

 

@spaanplaat - Congrats mate, you finally made it How comes that the mounting plate is different?! Can you post some pics? I wont be worried about the thick layer of MX-2 paste, I have 1mm thick one on my North Bridge from 6 months now and I have no problems You can always monitor your temps with GPU-Z if you are not confident

 

On the back off the ati card there are running some sort of transistors. They are right in the way where the backplate from the Nvidia would be. So if I would try it I would certainly damage the Ati card. At the moment I cannot post any pics because I'm @ work. I will do so when I got the time. For now I need to find a second backplate or an original one that came with the Ati card.

Edit: Found the partnumber 33.AP70N.001 and ordered it! Now hope it will be shipped soon.

 

That's why I asked. My HD3650 came with a mounting plate, but I'd removed it, because 5920G doesn't use one. Anyway, it has transistors underneath, so I don't think that it would be a problem for you either. I seriously doubt that your new plate would differ from your current one, I hope that I'm wrong though

 

Inside the mounting plate are the housings for the screws that fix the VGA heatsink to the card. Without the mounting plate the heatsink is sitting loose and the screws on the vga heatsink are sticking to far out so the back cover on the 8930g cannot be closed anymore.

The one I ordered should be the same as the one I have now.
I plan to disassemble the original mounting plate and glue the screw housings onto the hd 3870.

 

keep us posted... spaanplaat @holland?

 

Yep, @ holland.

Will keep you all posted. But I have to wait for the bracket to arrive.

 

BIG UPDATE!!

Following up on moelda's post @ Page 25 of this thread regarding the MXM-II cards, the email I sent to the seller finally got some reply!

In a nutshell, they offer almost every MXM card module in the market--even Asus ones. Heck, they are listing their 4650's as DDR3, and they do have 4850's in MXM-II format (or at least the PDF tells that). It can't be the MXM 2.1 form factors since the labels coincide with the supposed sizes of the cards they listed. Too bad they didn't put the sale price of the HD4650 and HD4850 and we'd have to call them (IDD come on) for the prices. They also offer free shipping upon order of ten or more modules lol.

Well anyway I'll just attach the files.

 

Surely the 9700M GT is 45W tdp meaning it exceeds the 25W limitation of the mxm2 module. Also the 4850 must use alot more than 25W! I think the most exciting propect is the possible mxm 2 GT240M that the new asus m60j uses, should be on par with the rarer 4670 mxm 2 card found in select msi models.

 

Some say that GT 240M is a tad better than HD4670, at least when it comes to 3D Marks

HD4670 is 35W GPU and it still is MXM-II GPU... a hoter one though

There is no such thing as MXM-II HD4850! I had contacted this guy long time ago, and when I asked if he has HD4650, he said that he only has HD3650. BTW this is the infamous OSStore from eBay (notorious for selling ES parts). Who knows, maybe he got his hands over HD4650, but I know one thing for sure, I don't want to be the guinea pig Good luck to the brave guy who would dare to order one.

 

I'm a little intrigued by the 9600M GT GDDR3 for $225, but if I was going to drop that kind of cash, it'd be on a component whose name starts with "S" and ends with "olid state drive."
Great find, kisetsu!

 

I have a 9600m GT GDDR3 for sale

 

im in for a group buy.....lol

I have the 8920G with 9500M GS in MXM-II

prefer if we could get the DDR3 4650 at minimum.

otherwise ebay is looking good for 9600GT

 

Meaker, you'd have to make a damn convincing offer and a refund guarantee if the card doesn't work in my 6920G for me to take the card off your hands (if it's from your 6935G though, at least I know it's Acer-sourced).

 

Something about that list just doesn't seem right. I agree with triturbo on this one. The 9400M isn't integrated?

 

I'm going with typo on that one, considering the stats are near-identical to the 9300M GS directly above it.
The MXM-II HD 3850/4850 are dubious, though.

EDIT: Say, anyone out there feeling adventurous? joshuaLX has an ATi Mobility Radeon HD 2600XT for sale for $45 here. Might be worth a chance to upgrade, as it does outpace the 8600M GT/9500M GS at stock clocks in benchmarks.

 

I coulda grabbed it already, if not for the registration week at college so I have to abstain in order to pay for my tuition lol.

I've got to say, after looking at the files when I got home, a lot doesn't seem right.

I really can't be convinced with the HD4850 being MXM-II. The HD4650 with 512MB and DDR3 sounds like specs from a soldered-on HP card..is it possible that they're listing some BS with fact so that they could fool people? lol hardly maybe, but strange.

The GeForce GT 240M--is it MXM-II? I'm actually still looking (just looking) at 9600M GT's at about $110 on eBay, but Meaker, how much are you offering that 9600M GT? lol

With the HD3850 I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be an MXM-III card, so definitely another error on their side.

...and unless the freakin' hilarious almost-300-bucks HD4650 wouldn't go down on where classic77 bought his, then I'll be in a 9600M GT (hopefully) by 2010. lol

 

I have an HD 3870 which is an MXM 2.1 type III so I guess the 3850 must also be a 2.1 type III. I think hd 4850 must be MXM 3 type A or B otherwise I think it can't handle the bandwith but I could be wrong.

 

A single card is not limited even by pci express 8x gen 1. Its all about the extra power delivery you can get.

 

The GeForce GT 240M--is it MXM-II?


Yet to find out, Ken at Gentech is going to try to install one in a Asus C90 So hold your horses on buying the 9600M GT right now

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/nVIDIA-GF-9400M...emQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item2303843584

Something about this item seems horribly off.........

 

Why is that? Looks like a 9400M mxm module no? Guess it is a die shrunk 8600M GS

 

Is it the Acer Aspire 6930G, HD 4650 card that works on the 6935G?

 

That is one straaange little GPU, if the GPU-Z screenshot can be believed. 16 shaders on a 64-bit memory bus...nothing like it in Nvidia's current lineup.

@FarePak = Yup, it's the 1GB DDR2 model from the 6930G.

 

does anyone know if a 8930G's 9600M GT can be replaced by 8940G's GTS 250M?

 

Not a chance--the 8940G would prolly be in the new MXM form factor, plus as far as MXM 2.1 cards are concerned seems like the only MXM 2.1 card under the new architecture is the GT240M. Well at least as far as what's discovered.

With regards to the 9400M GS. Hmm. Kinda really strikes resemblance with my 9300M GS. Higher clocked, but as far as I know 9400's are supposed to be motherboard-bound GPU's, eh?

 

Hi,

I have ACER 7520G laptop and want to upgrade my graphic card. Now, I've been looking into NVIDIA 9600m GT or ATI 4650. Can some one give some advice about upgrade procedure and how to get my hands on one of these cards...any online seller?

 

Here's a link detailing the upgrade procedure for the 7520G. It's with a Radeon HD 3650, but it should be the same for any MXM-II card you find.
9600M GTs can be found on eBay for relatively little, but people haven't always had the best luck upgrading their machines to it (the 5920G still can't).
The Radeon HD 4650 is the safer bet, but it's far harder to find. Try this or this link (should be the same part, no idea why there's a price difference). Just remember they won't sell it to you unless you say you're buying it for a 6930G, the original machine it's from.

 

Well, I don't expect problems regarding (dis)mounting work. Already been at site you recommended. BTW, already upgraded memory and installed second HDD by myself. More worried about compatibility issues. Will 4650 work without BIOS changes? (Now, I have 8400m G ). Also, I understood that some numbers are required, describing my laptop as one eligible for buying such a video card. Hope, you can help

 

The Radeon HD 4650 has been a drop-in replacement without BIOS updates for whoever's upgraded to it so far.
As for the numbers you need, ask someone who's done the upgrade already.

 

Thanks!
Probably, a few new questions tomorrow.

 

Anybody seen this:
http://www.acer.nl/acer/productv.do...L&ctx1g.c2att92=1&ctx1.att21k=1&CRC=217366654

Looks like DDR3 HD 4650. If link is not useful, just google: aspire 5940g, or go to
www.acer.nl and proceed..

 

That probably uses the new MXM 3.0 factor so it's useless to most of us with factor 2.1.

 

Not necessary. Wishful thinking goes this way: Technically, producing a DDR3 video card is possible just by inserting DDR3 chips, instead of DDR2 ones, it's matter of decision. MXM II cards are compatible with MXM III ones, later are just bigger. And, that's it.

 

You're getting mixed up - MXM 3.0 is the standard that defines MXM-A and MXM-B cards; it doesn't mean an MXM-III card (which is defined under the MXM 1.x/2.1 standards).
Go read up and learn something.

 

I was going too fast, thanks for advice. Anyway, are you positive it's MXM 3.0 card in 5940g?

 

They started using MXM 3.0 with the Acer Aspire 8935G. While I don't believe it's confirmed (leave that to TehSuigi), it's highly probably since the i7 core uses a different socket and they would have to use new mobos for the laptop.

 

8935G and 5935G are confirmed for using MXM 3.0. So everything after them (8940G/5940G and etc.) would use MXM 3.0 connector as well.

 

Just received the bracket from zandparts.

I know it's not the prettiest solution but I think this will do.

Got to work with a dremel and cut off the parts running along the electronic things (transistors off some sort). Then just sticked them on the back of the card with the included adhesive.



I'm @ work right now so I cannot run put it in the lappie.

If someone would point me to a good benchmark solution I would be happy to test it first with the 9700m gt and then with the HD3870 for comparison.

I will do this during the weekend so I guess I will let you know how it went after the weekend.

 

Nice work, I hope that it would run flawlessly now 3D Mark 06 would be a nice start

 

Has anyone found out the Acer 5738G MXM type yet?

I read through a service manual, but couldn't find it. All i found was replacement MB parts. Could this mean that the 5738G doesn't actually have MXM?

Also Quick Q, I have t6600. What is best CPU upgrade compatible with this M/B

 

Do you know which mobo chipset it is? If its pm965, then I think the best you can get is a T9300 or a X9000. If it's a PM45, then you're free to choose. Quad cores excluded of course.

 

I believe it is PM45. Why not QuadCore? Is it because they are 45W TDP?

 

No BIOS support.