Acer MXM Models and Cards

Ok, I will try 3D Mark 06.

 

PM45 BIOSes don't have quad core support? Whoa. I nearly bought a quad back then. whew.

Anyway, so the GT240M is already confirmed to be MXM 2.1?

(why don't we use them MXM 2.1 Userbars, eh? (@sig lol))

 

Nah, PM45's do but most laptop manufacturers don't release any support for them. Think of it being gimped by the manufacturer.

 

That's right. Most G/PM45 chipsets are (BIOS) limited to dual-core only CPUs, mainly because most of the laptops has insufficient cooling systems

@kisetsu17 - Still waiting confirmation, from Ken @ GenTech, but I'm pretty positive on that

Check out my new sig

 

Hello! I have an Acer Aspire 6935G-944G32Bn notebook. The VGA is a GF9600M GT 512 DDR3

I want to change HD4650. I found a shop but i'm not sure to good for my laptop. Here is the link:
http://www.acer-ersatzteile.de/product_info.php?products_id=507458940

Firstly:
This card is good for my notebook, and not needed bios hack or any other things?

And secondly, game performance diference this card is better than my actual card?

Thank you for answer, and sorry my bad english!

 

I wouldn't change it, the gain from the 9600M GT DDR3 to the 4650 DDR2 is almost nonexistent.

 

Meaker has them both, so he knows better. I'm not sure, but I think that he sold his 9600M GT. I agree with EchoShade though, even if there is a performance gain, it wont be a €167-worth gain.

 

in real application,like games, the ati 4650 ddr2 is a bit quicker than nvidia 9600m gt gddr3 , i have tested them in my 6930g with lasted games,first of all crysis warhead, resident evil, need for speed shift... every test was done with standard frequncies for both cards


Acer VGA BD M96 1GB DDR2 500MHZ (VG.M9606.005) for Acer Aspire 6930G

is the mobility 4650 mxm II 1gb ddr2

but the
Acer VGA BD M96 1GB DDR2 500MHZ (VG.M9606.006) for Acer Aspire 6930G i don't know waht is??? maybe a new revision of the VG.M9606.005(4650 ddr2) or this is an ati 4570???

 

Yeah, but does it worth €167?

Hey, spaanplaat, any updates

 

VTS, the Radeon HD 4570 is an M92-XT codename, not M96.
It could be a board revision, or maybe from a different source.

 

Nice! Glad you like it. you think if we spread that userbar over the net the manufacturers would revert to MXM 2.1? lol that would be the day!

Well, my system is barely keeping up with the T9600 until I reseated+re-undervolted the thing, so I think they did something at least worth appreciating by saving ignorant upgraders the hassle of a burnt mainboard.

Man, aren't 9600M GT prices going down yet? I'm itching. I really can't find a 4670 anywhere lol

EDIT: I went to see how much the 4650 costs again, and the item was not found. Again. Why does that notebook-doctor site always change the links?

 

This still too expensive?

 

I wouldn't buy from Hong Kong, bad past experience.

 

Well, I'm actually watching this, but it has already ended, and I'm still out of cash from enrollment! I'm waiting for that to be relisted since they have like hundreds more, and it kinda looks healthier than the other 9600M GT's out on eBay (looks a lot more like my 9300M GS lol)

But in my experience I found Hong Kong sellers not too bad..well, but the 9600M GT I'm watching is from China.

I'm just waiting for either the parttime job I've applied to or early Christmas present from relatives

But how much did the 4650 cost again? Was it something like 150 euro or something?

 

Its gone up to around 200 now I think lol.

 

Oh, so I guess it is the 9600M GT then. sigh.

 

http://www.acer-ersatzteile.de/product_info.php?cPath=10_1006_140957&products_id=140957443627


if the price is true and if the card in really an ati mobility HD 4650 mxm II 1gb ddr2, it is an excellent choice for an upgrade and have a really accesible price

and have a good perfomance


I know that acer have some ati 4650 ddr3 , but i don't the models of notebook, sombody know if they are an mxm II or an mxm A/B (excluded acer 8935 or acer 5739)

 

Saldy... yes... My card just died trying to screw the heat sink in place. One of the screwholes on the back got loose and was spinning along and destroyed a little transistor of some sort on the back of the card....

I'm so FOIFDSHRUR**TRUHW @ the moment...

BUT... there could be a positive side to this.. Perhaps I can solder it back on. All the contacts are still there and it broke quite nicely. I don't have any experience on soldering things back onto a PCB but I know how to solder just the easy things. Also let this be a lesson to the rest!!! Make sure you will not destroy the card when modifying the heat sink or bracket. Look if you got enough space to work with and if not think it really really good through. It can save you the trouble I have and save you a lot of money.

I think I need a volt or temperature regulated solder iron with a mighty fine tip and a very steady hand. Does anyone know which temperature to use? I heard somewhere that 550 degrees Fahrenheit should do the trick. But I also read somewhere I need to use a thermal shunt to conduct the heat away from the transistor. Anyone experienced with this?

 

AFAIK it'll be available in the new 5940G, so it'll be an MXM-A

Really sorry to hear that I hope that you'll find someone to fix it soon. Sorry, I have 0 experience with that kind of stuff.

 

A well... I asked a local electronics shop how to proceed with such volatile parts and he advised me with a lot of good tips to come around.

First he told me that wasn't a transistor (silly noob me! ) but a SMB (ok... but I'm still clueless what that is, maybe Super Mario Bros.).
Second he told me a ERSA mutli pro hooked to a power station should do the trick.
Third he told me I needed a good solder tip 0,3 mm for the super mini micro fr*acking contacts. So I bought that set along with some solder paste.

Next he tried his sale talk cross selling things and they worked! I also bought special solder tin and a circuit board holder and special tweezers to hold it all in place. It must come in handy some time .

I'm counting on it not to work so it can only be positive. Will keep you guys updated with my don't do it yourself project.

 

Hi!

Whats the difference?

VG.M9606.006 M96 1GB DDR2 500MHZ - 112 Euros
VG.M9606.005 M96 1GB DDR2 500MHZ - 167 Euros

 

Those are some great news. You are pretty fast I love your translation of SMB

ROLF

No one knows.

 

The price.

Don't know maybe a new revision?

 

It's easy to modify the bracket, just stab it with a flat-head screwdriver. Worked for me!!!

 

A bit late, he "modified" his GPU as well (Is it too early for jokes, spaanplaat)

 

hi ,i contacted eurocom for 260m gtx card mxm 2.1 type III they answer is The cards we stock are MXM 2.1 III b. Not sure what connector your unit would have.

anybody can it fit on acer 8930g

 

I can't answer with yes or no on that question. Most of the high-end nVIDIA GPUs are a little bit different standard called MXM-HE. It's combination of MXM-III size and MXM-IV connector type. Your laptop has MXM-III connector inside, as you probably know. The problem is - the card would fit physically, but your connector misses an extra pin in order to run it properly. You can see on the picture, right under the memory chip.



What I'm trying to say is, I'd seen quite a lot of times MXM-HE GPUs (nVIDIAs) listed as MXM-III, which is incorrect and spaanplaat can confirm it, as he already tried 9800M GT (unsuccessfully) if I remember correctly. I seriously doubt that GTX 260M is indeed MXM-III, but who knows. You can give it a try, but would be a very expensive one.

 

Everyone is trying to under volt everything. I just figured less components using power equals less heat so why not remove one or two

Indeed I found out the hard way. If you look on this link on ebay you will find the first 4 results are actually MXM-HE but are listed as MXM-III. You CANNOT put this in an MXM 2.1 type III slot. As triturbo has told you there is an extra connector (probably for more power) which your laptop does not have. Don't try it.

The connector you're looking for is this.



EDIT:

A little update I found the part that was broken loose of the circuit board is an SOT23 diode.



These things are REALLY small but the good part is they are widely available so even if I screw this up I can get a spare one everywhere.

I even found 2 goods guides on how to proceed with this.

Guide 1 Guide 2

Thought I let you guys know. You never know when this can come in handy.

 

LOL Maybe I should try this trick on my hot-blooded HD4670

The problem is that we don't know for sure if it's MXM-HE, or MXM-III, though I'm more towards that GTX 260M is a MXM-HE GPU

Thanks for letting us know, it's nice to have it here, though I do hope that I would never need it

 

Sure! Perhaps if you would cut it in two it produces only half the amount of heat it normal would!

I know it has to be a MXM 2.1 type MXM-HE or a MXM 3.0 type A or B.

I found a picture with the GTX 260m as a MXM 2.1 form factor type MXM-HE.


I know it's small but its the only good one I found.

Then there is the MXM 3.0 type A or B. As far as I know type A is a small form factor and type B a large one. The connector type should be the same.


This is a picture of a GTX 260m MXM 3 type B.

This should explain the difference between the MXM 3 type A and type B.


This is a MXM 3 Type A (small form factor).


This is a MXM 3 Type B.

That depends... If you cut the card in two you might want to look at this guide .

 

I doubt that it would heat-up at all, it would be cold as a corpse... maybe because it would be one

You are right, it is either MXM-HE for the older standard (2.1), or MXM-B for the new one (3.0), that's it There is no MXM-III GTX 260M, so sancimax, you better stay away

Nice pictures Maybe it would be a nice if TehSuigi updates the first post with them in order to avoid future misunderstandings, showing clearly every MXM type

LOL, I'm more towards finding another one, than putting the pieces back together It would cost me a good year or so

 

Hi i was just wondring where would the best place to buy a Ati 4650 from for my aspire 6530.

 

Triturbo, I'll add links to MXM-Upgrade.com's pages on the kinds of MXM right at the first post.

 

That failure link still taunts me.....

 

Hmm. Just a thought. I find MXM 3.0 types cuter than the 2.1's. But still. MXM 2.1 FTW!! Hahaha it still has that homey look on it.

But I can't help but wonder. Does switching to the new form factor mean better compatibility across different vendors? For example the issue with that Asus M60j and stuff..

 

here is the list of mxm cards from eurocom
VGA Technology
# 512MB GDDR3; Nvidia Quadro FX 2700M; MXM 2.1 Type III; 16x PCIe; DX10; OpenGL
# 1GB GDDR3 ATi Mobility Radeon HD 4870XT; DirectX 10.1; M98-XT; 55nm; MXM 3.0B; 16x PCIe ETA: Dec/09
# 1GB GDDR3 GTS 160M Nvidia GeForce; MXM 2.1 Type III; 16x PCIe; DX10; NB10E-GS1
# 1GB GDDR3 GTX 260M Nvidia GeForce; MXM 2.1 Type III; NB10E-GT1; 16x PCIe; DX10
# 1GB GDDR3 GTX 260M; Nvidia GeForce;16x PCIe; DX10; MXM 3.0 Type B; NB10E-GT1
# 1GB GDDR3 GTX 280M Nvidia GeForce; MXM 2.1 Type III; 16x PCIe; DX10; N10E-GTX1
# 1GB GDDR3 GTX 280M Nvidia GeForce; MXM 3.0 Type B; 16x PCIe; DX10; N10E-GTX1
# 1GB GDDR3 Nvidia GeForce Go 9800M GTX; 16x PCIe; DX10; NB9E-GTX
# 1GB GDDR3 Nvidia Quadro FX 3700M; MXM 2.1 Type III; 16x PCIe; DX10; OpenGL
# 1GB GDDR3; SLI 2 x 512MB Nvidia GeForce Go 8800M GTX; DX10; 16x PCIe
# 1GB GDDR3; SLI 2 x 512MB Nvidia GeForce Go 8700GT; DX10; 16x PCIe
# 1GB GDDR3; SLI 2x 512MB Nvidia GeForce Go 7950GTX; MXM
# 1GB GDDR3; SLI 2x 512MB Nvidia GeForce Go 9800M GT; 16x PCI-e; DX10; NB9E-GT2
# 1GB GDDR3; SLI 2x 512MB; Nvidia GeForce Go 7950GTX; 16x PCIe; MXM
# 2GB GDDR3; SLI; 2x 1GB GTX 260M; Nvidia GeForce; 16x PCIe; DX10; MXM 3.0 Type B; NB10E-GT1
# 2GB GDDR3; SLI; 2 x 1GB Nvidia GeForce Go 9800M GTX; DX10; 16x PCIe; NB9E-GTX
# 2GB GDDR3; SLI; 2x 1GB GTX 280M Nvidia GeForce; MXM 3.0 Type B; 16x PCIe; DX10; N10E-GTX1
# 128MB ATi Mobility Radeon x700; 16x PCI Express; VGA Module
# 128MB GDDR3; ATi Mobility Radeon x1600XT; VGA Module; 16x PCIe
# 256MB GDDR; nVidia GeForce 6800 Go; 10L; 16x PCI Express; VGA Module
# 256MB GDDR3; ATi Mobility Radeon x800; 480e/550m; 16x PCIe; Modular VGA
# 256MB GDDR3; ATi Mobility Radeon x800XT Platinum Edition; 16x PCIe; Modular VGA
# 256MB GDDR3; nVidia GeForce 6800 Go; 12L; 16x PCI Express; VGA Module
# 256MB GDDR3; Nvidia GeForce Go 7800GTX; 400e/500m; 16x PCIe; Modular VGA
# 256MB GDDR3; Nvidia GeForce Go 7900GTX; VGA Module; 16x PCIe; Modular VGA
# 256MB GDDR3; nVidia GeForce Ultra 6800 Go; 12L; 16x PCIe
# 256MB GDDR3; nVidia Quadro FX 1400M; OpenGL; 16x PCIe
# 256MB nVidia GeForce Go 7600GT; 16x PCIe; DX9; VGA Module
# 256MB Nvidia GeForce Go 8600GT; DDR2; 16x PCI Express; DX10; MXM-II Module
# 256MB; ATi Mobility Radeon x700; 16x PCI Express; VGA Module
# 512MB GDDR2; NVIDIA GeForce G105M; 8x CUDA Processor Cores; with PureVideo HD video engine; 16x PCIe; for TUN series
# 512MB GDDR3 Nvidia GeForce Go 8700GT; 16x PCIe; DX10; Modular VGA
# 512MB GDDR3 Nvidia GeForce Go 8700GT; 16x PCIe; DX10; Modular VGA; M570RU
# 512MB GDDR3 Nvidia GeForce Go 9600M GT; 16x PCIe; DX10; NB9P-GS1
# 512MB GDDR3 Nvidia GeForce Go 9800M GT; 16x PCIe; DX10; NB9E-GT2
# 512MB GDDR3 Nvidia GeForce Go 9800M GT; 16x PCIe; DX10; NB9E-GT2; for M860TU only
# 512MB GDDR3 Nvidia GeForce Go 9800M GTS; 16x PCIe; DX10; NB9E-GT
# 512MB GDDR3; ATi Radeon HD-3870; DX10; 16x PCIe; Modular VGA
# 512MB GDDR3; Nvidia GeForce Go 7900GTX; 16x PCIe; Modular VGA
# 512MB GDDR3; Nvidia GeForce Go 7950GTX; 16x PCI Express; MXM-HE
# 512MB GDDR3; Nvidia GeForce Go 7950GTX; 16x PCIe; Modular VGA
# 512MB GDDR3; Nvidia GeForce Go 8800M GTX; 16x PCIe; DX10; Modular VGA; D06
# 512MB GDDR3; Nvidia GeForce Go 8800M GTX; 16x PCIe; DX10; VGA Module
# 512MB GDDR3; nVidia Quadro FX 1600; OpenGL; DX10; 16x PCIe
# 512MB GDDR3; nVidia Quadro FX 2500M; OpenGL; 16x PCIe
# NVIDIA® SLI (Scalable Link Interface) Dual VGA; 2x 256MB GDDR3 Nvidia GeForce Go 7800GTX
# NVIDIA® SLI (Scalable Link Interface) Dual VGA; 2x 512MB GDDR3; nVidia Quadro FX Go 2500M; OpenGL

 

It doesn't change anything. If you really want to try it, go ahead, but don't cry afterwards. I already said - I'd seen quite a lot of times MXM-HE GPUs listed as MXM-III, this is NOT an exception. You can see on the picture that spaanplaat posted, that the MXM 2.1 version of GTX 260M is clearly a MXM-HE, NOT MXM-III. Why, because MXM-III's connector can't provide enough power. If you really want to try something, your best bet is 1GB GDDR3 GTS 160M Nvidia GeForce; MXM 2.1 Type III; 16x PCIe; DX10; NB10E-GS1, it should be MXM-III, because it requires less power than GTX 260M - 60w vs 75w. Your other option is 512MB GDDR3; ATi Radeon HD-3870; DX10; 16x PCIe; Modular VGA, but I don't know what they mean with "Modular VGA".

 

And also keep in mind that since they're from Eurocom, they are not guaranteed to work on your Acer machine.

 

thanks i will have that in mind

 

hello guya i recieved mail from mxm upgrade they will offer HD4670 for acer 8930g by the end of the year

 

WOW! Those are GREAT news!

 

That is ofc the mxm-b module :s

 

8930g has MXM 2.1 Type III

 

And the MXM 3.0 version of HD4670 is MXM-A Still, it means that we are about to see HD46xx hitting the eBay Are you prepared for Christmas

 

I'LL OWN CHRISTMAS!! lol that is if HD46XX MXM 2.1's would show up on eBay by then. Oh man.

On a side note, I discovered a Singapore-based Zepto reseller selling 9600M GT's and GT 130M's (But they call it GT 130M and 9650M GT interchangeably) and according to the pages for the 9600M GT and the 9650M GT/GT 130M it says "VRAM is the Samsung Memory Version." Does this mean the chips area Samsung chips? Are Zepto cards compatible with Acers? lol

 

Not sure, and I'd hold off on that for now.
Zepto's kind of in bankruptcy; wait for the inventory liquidation sales.

 

Do most acers require dissassembly to upgrade the card or is there an opening underneath with direct access to the MXM slot?

 

Hit or miss - some models require complete disassembly, but some like the 6920G have a single access panel for the CPU/GPU/RAM/HDD.

 

Same goes to 5920G

 

boys ,
i have found , for my brother,an acer 5739G with p8400 cpu 4 gb ddr3 1066, and nvidia gt 130M 1 gb ddr2 2months used...

the nvidia gt 130m ddr2 (500mhz x2) is a little little bit slower to nvidia 9600M gt gddr3

now this notebook have an MXM 3.0 A and i know that this model can also support nvidia gt 240m ddr3 mxm A, and all ati mxm A like ati 4670


can sobody links me more surces where to buy one of this?


i haave found this the picture of ati mobility 4670 mxm A
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-ati-mobilit...h=item2a00f2bbcc&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&afsrc=1



http://www.acer-ersatzteile.de/product_info.php?cPath=10_1008_124908&products_id=124908429123