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    Acer MXM Models and Cards

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by TehSuigi, Jul 4, 2009.

  1. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Either of both would work :) Cooling them, that's another story :D
     
  2. BigRuss

    BigRuss Notebook Enthusiast

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    spaanplaat, any luck with your 3870 yet? Would really like to be getting that card for my own 8930G if all works out as planed for you...
     
  3. spaanplaat

    spaanplaat Notebook Consultant

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    No haven't tried yet. I'm caught up in work at the moment and every free second I have is gushed up with other activities. But I think tonight might be the first time I can give it a try.

    You do know there is one for sale here.
     
  4. BigRuss

    BigRuss Notebook Enthusiast

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    spaanplaat, thanks for the pointer of the card for sale, have just mailed them for it(hope they still have it). Good luck tonight on the big test...
     
  5. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Good luck, spaanplaat! Would you fix it alone, or you'll count on someone else?

    Good luck for you too, BigRuss.
     
  6. spaanplaat

    spaanplaat Notebook Consultant

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    Sorry guys didn't had the time.... so frustrating sometimes....
     
  7. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Yeah, I know how it is. Don't rush it, you don't want to "mod" it again :D
     
  8. BigRuss

    BigRuss Notebook Enthusiast

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    Any Joy???
     
  9. spaanplaat

    spaanplaat Notebook Consultant

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    Nope no joy....

    While I was soldering one of the pins from the sot23 came lose and there is no way to fix that.

    Seems I need to find myself a new sot23 but I now see there are over 800 different sot23's and I have no idea which one I need.

    Any electric guru's in this forum? Is there any way to know which one is needed? There are no serial numbers or any indication which part number it could be.
     
  10. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Sorry to hear that :( Maybe they use one standard for all MXM boards, or if they used more than 1, at least it would narrow your choice (fingers crossed). Here are the MXM specs, good luck.
     
  11. poli27

    poli27 Newbie

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    Hy

    Acer Aspire 7520g-to go into the Nvidia 9600GT? Or just go out-HD3650?
     
  12. EchoShade

    EchoShade Notebook Evangelist

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    Um, I'm not sure what you're asking but the 9600M GT is better than the HD3650 assuming that they're both DDR3.
     
  13. poli27

    poli27 Newbie

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    I would like to know that this 9600 GT a good laptop.
     
  14. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    9600gt is an ok card, its going to start showing its age in not too long.
     
  15. IvY74

    IvY74 Newbie

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    GT 130M e' MXM-A!!!
     
  16. Nm1

    Nm1 Notebook Consultant

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  17. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    Probably not - Acer's already moved to MXM-A with the 5739G and 8940G. One could safely assume the 5942G and 8942G will be MXM-A and MXM-B, respectively.
     
  18. AlphaFlight

    AlphaFlight Notebook Guru

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    How do you know the 8940G is MXM-A?
     
  19. TehSuigi

    TehSuigi Notebook Virtuoso

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    Because the 8935G was.
    And I highly doubt Acer would go out of its way to move back to an older MXM standard.
     
  20. Soviet779

    Soviet779 Notebook Consultant

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    Do you mean MXM 3.0? It says on the front page the 8935G was MXM - B, as in MXM 3.0 B.
     
  21. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    It would be senseless for Acer to revert to the MXM 2.1 format since MXM 3.0 ones are way cheaper to produce I think. Plus they can be smaller. Only MSI sees sense on MXM 2.1's but I doubt it will take them long enough to stick to the old format for them to have the newer ATI's on that format. :D

    Hey guys--I have a question. Has anyone seen an MXM 2.1 format 9650M GT, even if it isn't Acer? Anybody knows if it's MXM-II?
     
  22. mookill

    mookill Notebook Geek

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    there was one on ebay (Asus model)

    I think the Acer part is MXM-III?

    check out the pics over at:

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Acer-Aspire-8920G-notebook.9245.0.html

    I have opened up my 8920G with a 9500GS and compared the cards.
    Looks like i have an MXM 2.1 9500GS card (and heatsink mount)
     
  23. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    I did see an Asus one on eBay a few days back, but I let that one slip out. I think it was from Singapore or somewhere.

    I am looking at a 9650M GT in a website in Singapore, associated with Zepto notebooks. Since my dad is there, I asked him to call up the seller any day this week, to inquire about what form factor the card is. Apart from the 9650M GT they are also selling a 9600M GT (prolly MXM-II) and a GT 130M (prolly MXM-A, but I'm having my dad ask anyway, just in case)

    Anyone need the site address?
     
  24. spaanplaat

    spaanplaat Notebook Consultant

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    Just came across this. Thought I'd let you all know.

    It's not shocking or anything, but perhaps someone will like this card. Check the benchies here.
     
  25. mookill

    mookill Notebook Geek

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    I thought abt getting the 9650GT but i would have to resolve the bracket issue.

    THe current mounts on my 9500GS do not look compatible.
     
  26. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    mookil: Photos please? :D I wasn't aware about the brackets and stuff.

    UPDATE though: I posted up on the Zepto forums, and the great guys there informed me that the three cards on mucro.asia's site (Singapore Zepto retailer) namely the 9600M GT, 9650M GT, and GT 130M are all standard MXM-II formats. I just don't know yet what vbios they use and stuff, as well as whether or not the cards need brackets whatsoever. I'm currently waiting on some more answers, as well as a phone call from the retailer directly. :D But at least it could be added to the list of unverified MXM-II cards. :cool:

    Here's the thread:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=441132

    EDIT: How often does an MXM card need a custom bracket whatsoever? AFAIK, only the 9650M GT needs it. Is it possible that an MXM-II GT 130M would need it?
     
  27. EchoShade

    EchoShade Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't think it really needs a bracket. I had to scrape off the bracket on the 9600M GS I had to get it to fit in the EX625 and the HD4760 fit just fine without a bracket.
     
  28. Salavat

    Salavat Newbie

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    Hi,
    I've got a laptop 5520g basicly it has video(card) 8400GS then I made an upgrade for 8600GS and it's broke (the screen turned in black&grey stripes).Then I bought a new video card 9600GT and during loading before BIOS there is notice.... I tried to flash video card and BIOS but hopeless,could anyone help me?
     
  29. Nm1

    Nm1 Notebook Consultant

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    I've seen an Acer 6930g with a GT130M model in Turkey. So there must be a GT 130M MXM-II.
     
  30. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Thanks for the heads up, it's a bit steep though. Any news regarding your upgrade?

    Mine is installed without the bracket too :)

    Meaker had 9600M GT up and running in his 5520G. Do you have the latest laptop BIOS? Who is the vendor of your GPU?
     
  31. spaanplaat

    spaanplaat Notebook Consultant

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    I don't think I can revive it.. At least not until I know the part number of the SOT23. And I don't think I will ever find someone who knows wich kind of SOT23 it must be. But just for good sake I will keep the card.
     
  32. mookill

    mookill Notebook Geek

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/gallery/uploads/158561/8920G_MXMII.jpg

    here is my 8920G with MXM II (?) 9500GS
    compare it with the 9650 at notebook check review.
     
  33. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    5520g is partially compatable with the 9600m GT. You will get the notice every time you boot and have to flash the bios to change the safety clocks to the clocks you want it to run at.

    You will also loose your video out ports.

    However after flashing you should get the performance out of it. I never did get to try the 4650 in it however.
     
  34. kisetsu17

    kisetsu17 Took me long enough

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    Can you just remove the bracket? I don't think I need the bracket if ever.

    Oh, and the Zepto people have replied. Seems the cards have generic NVIDIA vBIOSes, so it might be well worth a try, or at least a mention here on the threads. :D
     
  35. sirleeofroy

    sirleeofroy Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi, any updates regarding the G105M Nvidia in Acer Aspire 4937G?

    I've read through the posts regarding 4937G and it seems like it is not upgradable? :(

    -Zander
     
  37. Salavat

    Salavat Newbie

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    sorry, I have forgotten to mention the notice before loading bios,
    here is it:
    ERROR: MXM Structure not found or invalid.
    Reflash MXM ROM or add MXM structure and associated callbacks to SBIOS! Post will be halted to 30 seconds and performance will be limited to balanced performance mode until this is resolved.
    Video Card parameters:
    NVIDIA 9600M GT ,according to TechPowerUp GPU-Z
    [​IMG]
    notebook parameters::
    ACER Aspire 5520G
    BIOS: PhoenixBIOS 4.0 Release 6.1
    CPU: AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60 ~2.0 GHz
    what, how reflash, where to download the firmware?
    or how to change the safety clocks?
    help me please))
     
  38. mookill

    mookill Notebook Geek

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    yeah that was an idea.


    sounds interesting but doesnt confirm if this will work..

    r u going to give it a shot?
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You have to use nibitor and nvflash, there is a guide somewhere on here.
     
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    Any numbers or letters on your sot23. If yes, send me a photo on pm.
     
  42. BigRuss

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    How well does the 3870 fit into the back of the Acer 8930. it looks like a tight fit???
     
  43. spaanplaat

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    No unfortunately not, it is completely blank. Do you by any change know a way to figure out how to tell which one I need?


    Don't really know what you mean... The card is the same dimensions as the 9700m gt or the 9600m gt. It is just a MXM 2.1 type III card and they should all be the same dimensions.

    Or if you are referring to any incompatibility issues the only one I had was the bracket on the back off the card, but you all know this :eek:.
    The card simply fits like a charm and no bios issues or anything. First time I tested the card was without a proper mount of heat sink and with allot of mx-2 between so it wouldn't fry instantly. Windows booted up even without proper drivers it's resolution was set to 1920*1080. But then I shut it down to prevent damage. Ironic isn't it... should have left it without bracket, at least it would still work.

    BTW any luck with buying the 3870?
     
  44. BigRuss

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    Don't really know what you mean... The card is the same dimensions as the 9700m gt or the 9600m gt. It is just a MXM 2.1 type III card and they should all be the same dimensions.

    Or if you are referring to any incompatibility issues the only one I had was the bracket on the back off the card, but you all know this :eek:.
    The card simply fits like a charm and no bios issues or anything. First time I tested the card was without a proper mount of heat sink and with allot of mx-2 between so it wouldn't fry instantly. Windows booted up even without proper drivers it's resolution was set to 1920*1080. But then I shut it down to prevent damage. Ironic isn't it... should have left it without bracket, at least it would still work.

    BTW any luck with buying the 3870?[/QUOTE]

    In my 8930 I have a 9600GT and from all the photos I have looked at trying to compare them, the 3870 looks longer and wider than the 9600 and was thinking there may be a chance of the 3870 hiting or catching something inside my lappie?
     
  45. King of Interns

    King of Interns Simply a laptop enthusiast

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    That 4570 looks quite nice probably on par with the DDR2 4650 with an OC :p Hopefully it is a sign of things to come...4650's and 4670's!!!
     
  46. spaanplaat

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    No I can guaranty you it will fit. They have the same dimensions. But if you need conformation I can tell you the 3870 I have here has a width of 82 mm and a height of 100 mm. You can measure your 9600m gt for comparison but I'm 100% sure it is the same size.
     
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    The 4570 is basically a 3650 with half the memory bandwidth. It would stand no chance at all.
     
  48. Cobra03

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    The 3870 is longer, it will not fit!!
     
  49. BigRuss

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    Iv measured the 9600GT and its 73mm by 78mm? Help???
     
  50. Cobra03

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    Get the facts, the 9600m GT is shorter than the 3870. How I know this, I had a 9600m GT in my GX720 and replaced it with a 3870, the 3870 was longer. So what I am saying is the 3870 will not fit into an acer.
     
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