Acer MXM Models and Cards

Iv measured the inside of the 8930 and took the 9600GT out, and the empty space inside is 108mm long by only 85mm wide empty space. Its tight but I think it may fit. My be Im hoping to much...

 

Anybody knows about which mxm type gc do new Acer aspire 5940-42 series (Ati mobility 4650-5650) have ? Thanks.

 

Nm1, it's most likely MXM-A to match the 5935G.
Acer is not going to be releasing any new MXM 2.x cards.

 

Hopefully. If my dad gives in.

How troublesome are generic NVIDIA vBIOSes anyway?

 

not sure maybe TehSuigi would know.

 

Not a clue. Sorry, guys!

 

i have a question, i have an acer extensa 4630z, sister to the 4630g.

it has an mxm slot on the mobo that is not being used, located about 4" to the right of my cpu.

my question is that if i were to get an mxm 1 or 2, would it disable my intel gpu?

 

mn, wrong motherboard.

i did find the motherboard for the 4630g, the one with the dedicated gpu, it has an identical chassis to mine, a few holes blocked off on mine( a dremmel can fix that).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...=170417167344&ff4=263602_263622#ht_1980wt_939

this is the motherboard i would be replacing it with, it has an mxm type 2 slot.

i also found this, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...=330380680563&ff4=263602_263622#ht_3311wt_939 , to fill the gpu slot.

comments and or concerns would be much appreciated

 

If you're replacing the whole farting motherboard, it really isn't a 4630Z anymore, now is it?
Keep in mind that what you're doing wouldn't be covered by any kind of warranty at all ever. Remember that.

And as for the MXM card, that's the wrong one. ASUS uses a proprietary "flipped MXM" design that makes it incompatible with regular MXM slots.

 

Maybe it's me who is mistaken but the MXM list (first page) indicate max MXM capability for different laptop because
for acer 8920G it indicates MXM-III
the card I have right now in my acer 8920G, the 9500M GS is MXM-II and the 9600M GS I tried is MXM-II too, look like the second pics from the left
and from ebay the 9600M GT look like a MXM-II too
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Nvidia-Geforce-9...emQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards?hash=item27ad44cb81

 

damn, looks like the 8600gt is my highest available option.

but the motherboard is an identical chassis.

my warranty expires in 10 days

 

You had me humored there, lol!

Well, I'm quite sure the 4630 Z has a different layout for ports compared to the 4630 G. Are you sure it would fit? And yeah, your rig would be a 4630G then.

You could put in there up to an ATi HD 4670. Or a 4650. Or an NVIDIA 9600M GT, but that's not yet proved.

Anyway, good luck with that.

 

No, that's right - the first posts shows the max. MXM size for each laptop, while the second post has the sizes of the MXM cards themselves.
EDIT: OH SNAP, POST 2500!!
EDIT 2: Found some Radeon HD 4570 DDR3 MXM-II cards on eBay - anyone feeling adventurous today?

 

Hi, would that 4570 be much faster than my 9600gs?

 

I don't think the inside of the 8930g I have will differ much from yours. But with those dimensions as free space you should have no problems fitting it in there. I tell you it fits perfect with mine so I cannot see why yours shouldn't.

Are the 9600m gt's that much shorter? I did not know this. I thought the 9600m and the 9700m were the same dimensions. I kinda figured you also had a 9700m.

I've put the 3870 inside a 8930g so it CAN fit inside an acer. Perhaps not every acer.

 

If your 9600M GS is DDR3 it will be similar but slower if its DDR2 then it is a tiny bit faster. The 4570 is apparently close to 8600M GT/3650 performance.

edit ; just saw your sig; don't bother upgrading to the 4570

 

my chassis has the holes added on the g fill with plastic but it is not very thick around the outline.

its doable but ambitious.

 

Just had a chat with A TECH EU and they have the ATI 4570 card in stock in both 128mb and 512mb DDR3 guises. $150 and $200 respectively. The DDR3 4650 still not in stock.

The ones for sale on ebay are from them as he linked me to a the webpage of one.

I know it isn't great as the 4570 is barely as good as either 3650/8600M GT but it is a start. Maybe the 5570 or something will be on mxm 2.1 too...

 

@King of Interns: ok cheers, you are right, i have since found this http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
good to see i just crept into the 'high end gpus'
think i got mixed up with numbers. now a 5570.......

 

i have acer aspire 4920g
i have opened and confirmed mxm type 2 vedio card inside it
i want to upgrade toGeForce 9600M GS 512MB DDR2 (NB9P-GE2)
is it possible ?
and i can not find reseller in pakistan for this card ....and paypal does not supports pakistan

 

Hi commandoo, and welcome to the forums!
The 9600M GS is certainly a possibility, and people have had success upgrading to it. However, I'd recommend looking at the 256MB GDDR3 version instead of the 512MB DDR2 - memory size is not half as important as memory speed, and GDDR3 is at least twice as fast.
Try www.AcerParts.com and do a search for "NB9P-GE2."

 

how about aspire 8940G ?

 

No concrete proof, but I'm assuming MXM-B like the 8935G.

 

is ddr3 ati readon 3650 completely compatible with acer 4920g

 

Yes it will be compatible. The 9600M GS DDR3 will be better though considering it is just a lower clocked 9600M GT. Simply OC it to 9600M GT clocks after you install it and you will be flying through games.

 

thanks for confirming
now i am searching for 9600m gd DDR3 or Gt wish me best of luck ......

i was pretty disappointed 1 year ago when i got my 4920g but
this forum has given me hope for upgrade ....

thanks to each and every one who has contributed for this place and all info .....

 

Since the ati hd4650 fits in the acer aspire 5920g, i'd like to know if I can put a 7200rpm hard drive in that laptop to maximize my gaming performance.
Also, when placing a new gpu, what should I use: a thermal pad or thermal paste (arctic silver 5 for example).

 

@Commandoo: Be careful with the 9600M GT - it's incompatible with the 5920G, and may very well be for the 4920G too. Stick with the 9600M GS GDDR3. And it's our pleasure. Be sure to stick around and tell us how the upgrade went.

@Student: I see no reason why you couldn't move to a 7200rpm drive - just make sure you're getting the same physical drive size (2.5", 9.5mm drive height, etc) and interface (SATA vs. PATA). However, don't expect it to improve gaming performance - the only thing it'll help there is loading times. However, it should perk up the rest of your laptop's performance, such as boot-up times and responsiveness.
As for the thermal question, I haven't done a GPU upgrade myself, but I'd say use AS5 on the core itself, and thermal pads on the memory chips (if they're going to be covered by a plate or the heatsink).

 

So eventhough my motherboard dates from 2007, you think it will support 7200rpm 2.5" inch hard drives that came out later?

Btw, I'm still looking for someone who can give me a link how to replace the hard drive, as I mentioned earlier I have no idea how to do it with this acer.

 

after re thinking
i am going for Ati 3650 DDR3 256mb mxm II

thanks for advice and support .......

 

@Student@Antwerp2009 - Don't worry Just pick one and throw it in there. Hitachi's new 500GB 7200rpm star is your best bet. It supports SSDs as well and I'm planing to throw one in mine, when I decide which

 

Once you did, could you tell me how (with pictures)? All I know is how to replace ram and the grafic card, replacing a hard drive is a mistery for me.

Edit: I'm not planning of upgrading my gpu and hard drive until next year anyway. I haven't found a store in Belgium/eu yet for a new 7200rpm hard drive, but I bet it will cost me around 100 euros. The ati hd 4650 will cost another 200 euros. For the combined price I might aswell buy a ps3. I'll try to wait till the total costs drop to 150-200 ^^

 

If you can replace the GPU changing the HDD is a piece of cake. Simply remove the caddy; usually two screws holding that down, then slide it out. Then carefully pull the HDD out, slowly to insure no damage is made to the SATA connector.

 

Changing the GPU is easy aswell, according to this link.
http://www.theacerguy.com/2008/12/morris-aspire-5920-gpu-swapupgrade/
It looks easy but when I opened up my laptop yesterday, I noticed my card had wires with a white conector thingy attached to the motheboard, im affraid of pulling it off x D
Also, some say its better to smear out the thermal paste. Who to beleive? This guy uses a blop and just pushes it down with the card so it smear's itself out.

 

Your GPU has wires coming out of it? That sounds more like your wireless card. There should be no wires coming out of an mxm GPU. If there is a connector for some reason simply unplug it from the motherboard. It is simply like a miniture plug so more fiddly but not too difficult.

As for thermal paste it depends. For most thermal compounds spreading it out evenly is advised but for the thicker more expensive diamond thermal compounds such as ICD 7 a blob in the middle of the die is more effective.

 

Il take another look later on to be sure about the wires. Could you give the full name of ICD7?
I was thinking of using Arctic Silver 5 btw.

 

Innovation Cooling Diamond 7 it is noticeably better than AS5. At load you should see up to 5C reduction over AS5 well worth the investment. Some people see 10-15C reductions!

Snap a pic of the card with wires and post it up if you like that way we can be sure what it is

 

Student: 5400rpm and 7200rpm drives are virtually interchangeable and completely compatible with one another. Trust me, they had 7200rpm hard drives in 2007 (I had one!). Just make sure that you match your drive interface: SATA or PATA. PATA has lots of metal pins to connect the board to the hard drive, while SATA has a more sturdy plug.

EDIT: Just saw your sig too. Your laptop doesn't have two hard drives - it has one hard drive with two partitions, which are seen in Windows as separate drives. C: is used for Windows and programs, D: is for data. You can extend C: to take up the space of D: by backing up D:'s contents to an external drive, deleting the D: partition, then extending C:. There are guides online to help you with that.

As for the space difference, part of it is due to the way Windows and manufacturers calculate space. Manufacturers use 1000 KB = 1 MB, while Windows uses 1024 KB = 1 MB. Thus, what the manufacturers sell as 160 GB shows in Windows as 149 GB.
The rest of the space difference is taken up by two hidden partitions on your hard drive: one that contains your factory default recovery image ( don't touch that!!) at the front of your drive, and the other that contains your Acer Arcade Instant-On data at the back. These hidden partitions should be roughly 14 GB in total. Hope that clears things up for you!

 

Thx for the info, depending on my wealth next year i'll decide what to do (a) make the C and D drive into one bigger C drive, or (b) just throw that worthless complicated drive out and buy a 7200 rpm one.
If i'll cut back on the beer and kebabs on my Istanbul trip I might have enough cash for plan b.

edit: when I use System information for Windows, it says I have a WD (Western Digital) drive with Serial-ATA interface, so I guess its SATA? Or am I mixing something up here.

 

Be sure to make your recovery DVDs using Acer eRecovery before you do anything like that, just in case things go wrong.
Also, keep in mind that if it's storage you're after, 5400rpm drives hold the lead there. They go up to 640GB now!

And you are absolutely right, Serial ATA = SATA.

 

Hello
If i buy MSI GX623 for what card can i uploaded it?

HD4670 in GX623

 

This card seems to be a MXM-HE type

 

what does a mean?

 

I have 3 dvd's with al the software I need, I formatted my hard drive the first week I bought it, then I realised I had no software so had to download it all from the acer site. But that eRecovery you mentioned, is it some kind of program that installs all the needed software by itself? Because I had to install every single softwarepack for drivers one by one.

About the storage lead in 5400rmp drives, i don't need that much storage, just more than two 65 gig drives, or one 149 gig drive if I manage to combine them. 250 gigs would probably already be sufficient, but I'll go to 320 so I have absolute freedom in buying games which require a lot of harddrive storage. I'll go with the 7200rpm beacause its faster, and has sufficient memory for me ^^

I did a bit of calculating yesterday, if I buy everything needed for my acer i'll spend about 400 Euros (new hard drive, extra ram, ati hd4650 card, windows 7 64 bit to maximise the ram usage). And even then I won't be sure to play the new assassins creed which requires minium 2.4 ghz core 2 duo. Yesterday I saw this awesome asus g601 with corei7, 1 terabyte of 7200rpm, for 1523 euros. If it weren't for the bad cooling (it has 1 fan) which makes the card rise to 95 celcius, this laptop would have already been delivered to me by the time I was writing this message.

 

You're right, it does look like a MXM-HE, but I thought it was confirmed that the MSI GX623 had the same type as the MSI EX625 which is a type II.

 

So GX623 and EX625 have MXM II? (Radeon HD 4670)

 

eRecovery's main function is burn the factory default disc image to DVDs so that your system can be restored in a catastrophic failure.
It can also burn a Drivers & Application disc with all the drivers your machine came with from the factory.

Sorry for going so far off-topic, guys. MXM only talk now!

 

Well, someone needs to confirm me on that but that's what I've heard but that extra pin and length says otherwise. The EX625 card I'm using is more or less a square shape.

 

This is definitely MXM-HE, but it could be any other GPU. I can give you link to Bulgarian review of GX623 where you can clearly see that GX623's HD4670 is MXM-II.

 

here is a link where we can see a pic of the msi GX623X

MXM-II
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/ilustrace3/Sulc/msi_gx623/spodek_otevreny_velky.jpg

from
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/hardware/notebooky-pda/14893-msi-gx623-herni-notebook-za-dvacitku