New Acer Aspire V Nitro series

I bought my V15 at a local store in Lithuania. Just thought i would give you the price for reference, so you know other stores are not ripping you off or smthg

I think you (and some other people) are over-thinking things. 17 inch and 15 inch are part of the same series. The cooling will not be very different. I don't think any of us really cares if its 95 C under full load or 98 C. If you throttle 15 inch, you will throttle 17 inch as well. So just look at the specs which suit you better

 

Thats not true the 17 inch model has the Dust Defender cooling system and the 15 inch does not!

 

Also there is no point comparing max temps of those notebooks since 15" unit had to throttle to keep the temps down while 17" didn't. If neither throttled that would be a fair game but otherwise it's pointless.

 

what I meant to say, is that under heavy load, both versions will throttle. Of course, 17 inch will throttle under heavier load.. but the difference between 15 inch or 17 inch load, under which they throttle - is not big enough to base your choice solely on that. I think it depends on what software you are using.

For example - i sometimes do molecular vibrations calculations with Monte Carlo method. No matter what CPU or laptop - it will throttle. Yes, 17 inch would probably finish my work 5-10% faster (because of better cooling), but when my calculations take a day or two - its not significant enough.

Or do you want to say, that 17inch cooling is so much better, that it wont throttle under any load?

 

I want to buy an aspire nitro 591, but on acer.com it says that it has a resolution of 1366 x 768 and on comtech.de 1920 x 1080. ?

 

Both resolution are available although just like with V5-573G 768p resolution is rather rare. In Europe it's mostly shops like MediaMarkt that want to keep the prices as low as possible that offer 768p.

 

So I can buy this one and I will have a full hd resolution even if acer.com says not so.
Acer Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-790C Black Edition Gaming Notebook mit i7 SSD und GTX860M - Comtech
http://www.acer.de/ac/de/DE/content/model/NX.MQLEV.001

 

It's a bit odd because the exact model number NX.MQLEV.001 should describe one particular configuration but it you look it up it shows mostly FHD versions but also some rare 768p units.

If I were you I'd try to contact them via e-mail for confirmation and then proceed - if it turns out they send you 768p version in the end you will be able to return it and you'll have e-mail confirmation on top of the specs on the website, if they try to dispute it.

 

Depends on your work situation I guess. I work mainly from my desk, plugged in to an outlet and a 27" monitor. The farthest I take it is to another room for meetings, and 3-4 hours on battery will be fine for that as meetings never go over an hour. If you travel a lot, I can definitely see this not fitting your work situation because of the battery life and slightly large form-factor.

 

well, life sucks......
got my v15 nitro today and i am having really bad wlan speed issues (2 mbps down, when everthing else on wlan in house can get 20 mbps down).
using the driver provided for station drivers does not fix the issue.
i guess im gonna have to return it to newegg and lose 300-400 dollars because they probably wont consider wlan issues like this as making the unit defective.

 

@macknewm

Why don't you keep it and replace the Wi-Fi card yourself. The problem seems to be the Atheros card - not with the notebook itself.
If you do decide to do it- mind you that judging by the photos this notebook doesn't use mini-PCI Express card but rather new M.2 format so you'd be limited as to the choice of the card - you can get either Intel 7260 AC (which I don't recommend) or a brand new Killer N1525 (that will be overpriced for sure but far less than $300-400).

 

any idea on any other solutions or were to buy a killer 1525 in the usa?

 

Apparently Killer 1525 is not available as separate card yet but these are already available in some notebooks (see here for details). These will turn up on Amazon or eBay pretty soon I suspect.

Apart from those two I can't think of any cards that use M.2 slots and are available and usable. Still if you are to lose so much money on sending the notebook back, I'd try to wait for Killer to turn up. Note that it will probably cost $100 or so, but overall it should be worth it. Initial feedback (see the thread I linked to) is good and it would still be cheaper than returning your laptop.

 

reading through here
Acer Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G Disassembly | MyFixGuide.com
Just found that the card in my nitro is really called a Atheros QCNFA222 but the driver it using is not for that?
Any idea were to get the driver for a Atheros QCNFA222?

 

Atheros AR5BWB222 and Atheros QCNFA222 are the same thing but it doesn't really matter since Atheros driver package supports all their drivers so it would intsll correct driver anyway.

 

i couldnt wait for new atheros driver or for killter to be available so i got intel 7260 and it works good with default windows driver that got installed when i turned on the laptop.

 

Hi,
My Nitro v15 is arriving on monday. I'd like to know what exactly are the problem with the wifi chipset.
Thank you

 

Where did you find a Intel 7260 M.2 Form Factor to buy?

 

I'm looking here in Singapore at two models, the 591G with 4710HQ and 860M, and a 571G with a 4510U and 850M (of unknown memory type). I'm really tempted to get either, but I'm worried about the battery life of the faster one. On the other hand I don't know how much slower a ULV dual core will be in real world usage. Obviously I want to use it for gaming, but I don't care too much of squeezing out the last bit of frames and resolution. But for a work intensive multitasking scenario, can the dual core cope?

 

@nons_

You are worried about the wrong thing. ULV dual core will do fine in a work environment (unless you have a job that requires a lot of computing power). It won't do very well in games though, especially paired with 850M (which is bound to be DDR3).

The spec you mention are pretty much identical to Aspire V5-573G so compare gaming performance between those two:

1. V5-573G Acer Aspire V5-573G-54218G1Taii Notebook Review Update - NotebookCheck.net Reviews
2. VN7-591G Acer Aspire V15 Nitro (VN7-591G-77A9) Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

Few examples - (all Ultra settings 860M+4710 vs 850M+ULV)

Bioshock Infinite 41fps vs 25 fps
Thief 24 fps vs 15 fps
Batman: Arkham Origins 47fps vs 28fps
Tomb Raider 44fps vs 30fps

Granted there is some minor difference between Intel Core i5-4210U that was tested in v5-573G and 4510U that is available in the notebook you've mentioned but that won't change the outcome. ULV and 850M won't be nowhere near close in terms of gaming performance so it won't be squeezing out the last bit of frames, it will be struggling at FHD with modern games.

As for office-related jobs on the other hand ULV will be fine and battery life should be far better on this notebook than on a quad core.
If you are not much of a gamer ULV+850 will be a fine choice, if you are however it would be a bad one.

 

i found it on ebay

 

ok, so I got the VN7-571G in the end, as battery life is more important to me (if it's so low as 3 hours for the quadcore). I asked in the shop and was told the model was built identically, as they only had a 591G on display. Now I noticed there's an ODD instead of the second fan - I'm worried about whether or not there's an M.2 slot in this model, as it is on the left side roughly where the ODD is on the 591G. I can't open it up if I plan to return it, but if there is an M.2 slot there is no need for me to, does anyone have any insight whether the 571G model got an M.2 slot?

Edit: Ok at first I was super happy with this laptop. The screen, performance, build etc. all are awesome. But the mentioned Wifi problems... I can't believe it. It just doesn't work. I'm sitting perhaps five metres away from the router separated by one wooden door, and the speed hovers between 0kb/s to 200kb/s. Once I walk towards the router it works fine. I have a netbook and ancient Sony laptop that work fine there! Oh my why did I not believe this problem was so severe

 

I've seen this problem go away with full wifi Driver wipe and re-installation on certain other V3/V5 acer's... did you try that? Also honestly, and people are going to call me crazy for this but certain routers quite honestly do not work well with certain wifi modules... i've seen this time and time again. Try a friends router.

 

Tried that on mine, didnt work. Just ordered the Intel 7260 that fits it for my self. Also, i get the same speed results on both my college and home WiFi.

 

I did try that. Tried disabling power saving modes as well, installing the latest drivers, nothing. I can't even watch twitch or play starcraft from the table where my old computer downloaded stuff at 2-3 mb/s. I feel I bought a worthless computer.

The shop I bought it from offers a replacement if I bring it back within 7 days, but of the same model. Are there people whose Wifi does not suck on the VN7? Might it be worth it to have it exchanged?

 

I just bought two VN7-591G and both of them have Wifi issues, really poor signal. They cant even establish a connection where my 5 years old laptop has 3/4 signal bars.

The UP arrow keyboard key seems loose on both of them.. anyone has this problem?

Last but not least, one of them also has a pixel acting funny, which shows only black and green colors depending on the image showing on its vertical line :/

 

Other than the wifi have you had any other issues? I've been having issues with freezing/crashing but I assume that's mostly related to the instability of windows 8 since it happens when I'm using stuff like explorer. I thought I was having serous wifi issues, but I recently purchased a new router so I thought it was a possibility that it could be the culprit, but since everyone else seems to be having the same problem I'm highly concerned. I used the wifi at my girlfriend's place and it worked well, but I was sitting right next to where her wifi is located. In my house a small to moderate sized house the speed was horrible if i was a significant distance away from the router. I will have to try it again, I downloaded the driver Thursday but haven't used it at my place much since then, I assumed it was working since it worked well at her place but I forgot i was sitting next to the wifi. This is a serious issue I may have to consider returning it and getting the Asus GL551. The other thing that really sucks is the battery life.

I've contacted Acer about returning it and mentioned the wifi issues that I and everyone else has been experiencing so I will see what they say.

 

Try installing the drivers for the WiFi saved in the laptop recovery partion. They seem to be newer than the ones on Acers website and improved my WiFi speed and signal some after installing them, turning off power saving, and rebooting. You can find the recovery partion drivers by going to the start screen and type recovery and its called Acer Recovery Management. That is if you didnt uninstall that access tool thinking it was bloatware! Also, I was having explorer.exe crashes and etc but I did a full system restore(like that would fix anything on a new computer) like Acer suggested to fix the WiFi issues and It turned out something in the Windows install must have been bad on a new computer because that made the speed on WiFi somewhat better and fixed the explorer.exe crashes.

 

i got the 15" nitro, and have had no problems with wifi, on 5ghz it connects with 300mbps, and copying from my desktop (wired) to the nitro (wifi) about 100gb (my steam folder, so both small and large files) it averaged about 11MB/s (300mbps is about 37MB/s tops) not impressive but no errors, i redid test at 2.4ghz still no problems...so i suppose next is furmark+prime95 and see if heat kills the wifi

 

Where is the recovery partition? When i test my wifi speed from one room in my house I get from between 0.1 - 2 MBPS download speed and between 1-2 MBPS upload speed. When I move to the room closer to the router I get between 10-25 MbPS download and between 5-7 MBPS upload speed. I really don't want to have to send this laptop back and start all over.

 

But how far away from your router are you using your laptop?

Ok I didn't see this before but I had found the Acer Recovery Management software anyway. I was wondering why the drivers in the recovery would be newer than the ones that it came with, doesn't make sense, but you are saying it's possible that something went wrong with the installation that it just needs to do a system restore? I tried doing a repair/modify with just the wireless drivers in the Acer Recovery Management software didn't seem to help.

 

If you read my post carefully, I said how to access the drivers in the recovery partition.

 

I saw, my speeds appear to have dropped after I did the repair/modify. I previously had downloaded and installed a driver from the website below ( i think you sent the link) that may have increased my speeds from what they were when I first used the laptop not sure but regardless, the increase is not enough for me to be satisfied with. When I first got it I was unable to use the internet period at times with download speeds well below 1mbps almost always. I will try the system recovery next I guess. All you did is select restore factory settings right?

Qualcomm/Atheros Wireless Lan Drivers Version 10.0.0.298 WHQL

 

Did you figure out a solution to yours? What are you going to do?

 

I was looking at the Asus N550JK, the Lenovo Y50 . Thankfully I found this Nitro series today.
i7, 860M and IPS that's exactly what I needed.

I am now looking at this model
Acer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition VN7-591G-74LK Gaming Laptop Intel Core i7 4710HQ (2.50GHz) 8GB Memory 1TB HDD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M 2 GB GDDR5 15.6" Windows 8.1

However, the specs on neither Newegg, nor Acer website mention the display being an IPS. It's specified for other series laptop but not this one.
Do we know for sure that the display is IPS ? especially for the VN7-591G-74LK model

 

Hey guys,

I just got the Acer VN7-591G-75S2 and it's on its way to my house. However, now that I have, a bit of worry settles in. I was wondering how prevalent the wifi issues were on this laptop and how easy of a fix they are. Did people find it a matter of just updating drivers (read through the thread, I haven't seen any confirmation that the drivers actually fixed the issue from any posters) or was it a matter of replacing the Wifi chip on the laptop itself? How difficult is it to replace a wifi chip?

Cheers guys

 

I wonder if i will void warranty if decide to buy a new wifi module and replace it myself?

 

Hi,

I have the Acer Aspire V Nitro Black 15 inch. I have had it for 4 days and tested it thoroughly.


Cons
* The built in Wifi card sucks. 1) It maxes out around 30mb and 2) It drops to about 5mb at times until you restart.
* The screen is terrible. It is the worst i've had in many years. It is very very dark. My eyes really hurt looking at it. Does anyone else have this issue?
* The power connector to the laptop is very flimsy. It feels like after a couple of plugging it in and out it will snap off
* Very hard to maintain, if you open it up, the keyboard has to be taken off before you can really access the parts.
* The track pad is really hard to slide your finger over. Makes using it a real pain
* It runs hot under the right palm rest (the hdd is there)


Pros
* The material used on the case doesn't collect fingerprints
* The keyboard is very good


Upgrades
* Intel 7260AC - I replaced the default wifi card with this and it is phenomenal. I now get 50mb reliably with low ping
* Samsung EVO 840 SSD - I replaced the hard drive with this


Overall
* I would not purchase this laptop. It is exactly what you would expect. Cheap crap - I would strongly advise avoiding it. Even if you think the price is good. You get what you pay for.

 

Thanks for sharing your experience :thumbsup:

 

you should RMA your laptop. my screen and power connector are perfectly fine. it doesnt overheat and trackpad is normal.
only thing that sucks about this laptop is wifi card, which can be replaced in 5 minutes for $20-30.

 

The WiFi really sucks. But other than that, I would disagree. My screen is very bright, so much that I have to reduce the brightness to work comfortably for a longer time. The power connector is very firm (you actually have to push it in with quite a bit of force, perhaps you didnt do that). The trackpad is OK, although I really miss a dedicated Synaptics settings tabs in the control panel. I forced the original driver via reboot to unsigned driver installation, but it still doesn't show up. On the other hand, I think the keyboard is OKish but not very good. I had a Vaio chiclet before that and it was a lot better. However, it does its job. Just have to get used to it.

Overall: I would not purchase this laptop again, solely due to the WiFi issues. I can replace the card and void my warranty while spending more money, without a guarantee of success, that kind of sucks for a newly bought four-figure machine. I'm considering getting a USB nano adapter, just I have no idea whether those are actually any good (for instance Asus N-10 nano wifi).

I'm using the i7 ULV with GTX850M variant, and I tried gaming a bit, Crysis 2 runs smooth at high details on Full HD, and the battery lasts about 5-6 hours with things that don't squeeze the CPU. If I use high-res flash playback, it drops to 3.5 - 4 hours.

 

why would you void your warranty with replacing wifi card?
shop where i bought mine replaced RAM and HDD for me and said that i can replace wifi card if i want to or bring it to them. i replaced it by myself. you dont even have to remove the top case/keyboard fully, just lift it up.
there are no warranty seals on anything like that.

i would buy this laptop again, because there is no alternative. i dont want asus n551/g551 that are 50% thicker and heavier and with ODD.
i am not 100% satisfied with my purchase because i had to replace wifi card, but everything else i very good.

 

Don't do that. Nano card will have a nano antenna and only one at that (like Asus N10 does). Normally you have two antennas in the screen and whichever way you turn one antenna should have a pretty good line of sight. With a nano card placed in the lower part of the notebook you end up with limited range, it's easy to obstruct the line of view and even of you are on top of the router you still end up using one spatial stream (so theoretical speed of up to 150mbps which you'll obviously never reach).

I'm afraid your only way from here is an upgrade to an internal card.

Agreed - Acer doesn't have warranty seals so it's not a problem to replace a Wi-Fi card. That said - they do allow for upgrades when a notebook has a service hatch giving you access to basic components. They may be opposed to it if it requires at least partial disassembly. If you do upgrade, keep the old card and place it back in the notebook if you ever need to send it for repairs.

 

I'm less worried about super fast speed, but actual connectivity. if the nano USB wifi is as bad as this, they might as well not bother selling it. If there are nice antennas built in why is the reception so so bad? That's basic physics. So if the antennas are not to blame, the nano USB could/should still do better. Mind you, I'm not looking for super strong reception with high throughput, just for a stable connection to a router 5 metres away that any of my other devices easily maintains (6 year old Vaio, 5 year old netbook, tablet, smartphone).

 

I have not been able to resolve my wifi issues. I'm getting 0.1-2 mbps (usually less than 1mbps) download speeds in the room furthest away from my router in the house. My house is not that big and I have no problem getting 10mbps or higher on other devices in the same room in the house. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the wifi drivers through the Acer Recovery program but it didn't help me at all.

I don't agree with the other guy who claims this is the worst screen he has seen, and that this laptop overall is cheap and terrible, I think he is a little biased. It seems pretty well built, the power cord I don't see as a major issue. The battery life on this machine does suck that would be my second biggest con, and it does run a little warm but not excessively and it's not surprising that it would run warm considering how thin it is. Trackpad doesn't seem so great either but I think I'm getting used to it.

The wifi issues however are unacceptable, easily replaceable or not, replacing the wifi card on a $1000+ machine as soon as I get it should not be something I have to worry about. If I don't find a resolution to this, I will send it back, the 6-7 year old laptop I was using previously works fine with my router in the same room I was using this laptop in. I've already contacted Acer and informed them I intend to return this due to the wifi and battery issues.

 

@nons_
It is basic physics indeed but you are twisting it - decent antennas are required for good reception but are no guarantee of good reception hence you may end up with bad one even with good antennas (if your card is crap for example) but you can't have good reception without proper antennas, regardless of how good the card is.

Another thing is that I'm not sure if reception is actually bad - my guess is that it is fine by itself but the card is very bad hence it struggles regardless of how good signal quality and strength is. It's true that this nano card can give you better usability than the one you already have - it would be hard not to, but it's not the best way to go.

If you want to have actually decent performance you might have to replace the card with a proper internal one.

@all

Can you give me a detailed run down of what settings did you fiddle with as far as Wi-Fi goes? Did anyone look at advanced driver settings available through device manager? Can you provide a screenshot of those settings the way they were by default?

 

Here you go downloads,

Click on it to make it bigger, idk how to make it bigger in post.....

 

Thanks macknewm.

I expected a bit more settings to fiddle with but there is at least one that you should attend to - make sure that "Dynamic MIMO Powersave" is set to "disable".
Another thing that you might tweak is "scan valid interval" - this is the number of seconds the card takes between it starts scanning for a better access point. Meaning it will start scanning every minute with default settings, which typically affects performance (mostly pings rather than throughput though, so it's most likely not the culprit). Still you may safely increase this value to 300.

Another thing to check is in advanced power settings of your Windows power plan. There should be "wireless adapter settings" there - make sure it's set to no power-saving/high performance. Anyone not knowing what I'm on about - see here (instructions for something else but screen-shots lead where you should go).

If this doesn't help either I'll have some more questions for you guys.

 

I've ordered an Intel 7260 AC and it suppose to arrive today but unfortunately I wont have time to install it till Thursday. Regarding the settings you mentioned, I had found information about turning off the power saving stuff in both places via Google by searching the wireless card that is default in this laptop. I have also tried changing those other settings you mentioned but they did not help. In the end for some odd reason a full system restore improved it the most and its somewhat usable now just not completely adequate. I get about half my home internet connection speed 10 MBPS down vs. the 20 MBPS, I should be getting.

 

Now i'm really scared to buy this laptop...