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    New Acer Aspire V Nitro series

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by G-Force, Aug 13, 2014.

  1. ConteZero

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    Just some tidbit I've found (I've ordered 791G myself) lurking.

    1 - 791G: this picture http://www.notebookcheck.net/filead..._759Q/Acer_Aspire_VN7_791G_759Q_39_von_41.jpg shows that some 791G has Synaptics touchpad.
    2 - 791G : go to driver download, at least in Italy you'll find that there are two BT/wifi driver sets, Atheros and Broadcom... so they do ship some notebook with Broadcom BT+Wifi instead of Atheros.
    3 - 571G / 591G : download driver shows three driver set: Atheros, Broadcom and Intel.

    Typical ACER.
     
  2. RayJohnson

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    The factory restore did not help me at all. I'm still getting 0.1-2 MBPS when I move away from my router.
     
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    Can you download this app, run it and post screenshots (both close to the router and where you are getting 0,2-2mbps)?
    Did you try to change settings I mentioned in my earlier post?
     
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    Yes I've tried changing your settings as well as reinstalling drivers multiple times. I will download when I get back home but if I can't resolve this soon I will have to send this back before the deadline. My speeds improve dramatically if I'm a little closer to the router. I get over 10 if I'm right by it but the signal strength is medium and the speeds are extremely low in the room I'm testing it in.
     
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    Here are the screenshots of close to the router and away

    First one is close to the router and second one is away from the router.
     

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    Hey guys. Although I read some complaints about the throttling, I also read some appreciations that it only happened in full load test.
    Once I got my V15 (i5 version), I downloaded Origin and jump into BF4 multiplayer (64 player intensive firefight in locker) right away (while the disk is heated due to the download work of BF4). I tested ultra settings and it is pretty playable (28-35). However, in a few minutes, I encountered CPU throttling, and FPS dropped to ~10 (especially when there is a flash bang...). At the same time, GPU temperature seems fine. It might be due to the prolonged downloading work which already heated the laptop a bit. I am also surprised how much CPU power BF4 consumes in multiplayer mode. In addition, I received a warning saying memory is almost full (8GB).

    When it cooled down, I tried it again in high settings (I switched between 1600x900 and 1080p several times) and successfully finished one round without throttling. The CPU temp was around 92.

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    I guess this throttling is reasonable? I used a thinkpad (with NVS GPU + i7 duo core) to play BF4 in low settings, and it never throttled (though very hot).

    Maybe for BF4 multiplayer, and any multilayer games that require a lot of CPU power, pushing to 1080P with ultra settings is not a good choice.
     
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    I have a Linksys EA3500 router which is dualband with a 2.4GHZ and 5 GHZ. I disabled the 5GHZ and changed the network mode to 802.11g Only. I think it was set to Mixed before. Not sure if that helped or it was something else, but I seem to be getting 5-8 MBPS at times now in the room where I was only getting 0.1-2mbps before. I get 10-16 close to the router. If getting a better router would help my speeds I would be willing to, I'm debating if I should keep this laptop or not now. I really have no other option right now to get another one and I need it for school, and I know I can always get another wificard too.
     
  9. ConteZero

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    I have a spare RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe (from an ASUS VC60).
    Can I swap the embedded wifi card with that ?
     
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    @RayJohnson


    RSSI looks good near the router but for RSSI of -71 that you get when you are far from it, the speed should be much better than it is.
    As for disabling 5GHz band - that has no effect - your router has a separate radio for 5GHz band and there's no interference between the two.
    Making it 802.11g only might be helpful indeed - I have no idea why but Intel 7250 has problems on 2.4GHz band too and forcing it to work at 802.11g improves stability (although also defies the point of buying it). The problem with this is actual transfer rates of 802.11g network will not exceed 20/25mbps under good signal conditions so anyone with a faster Internet connection will still be disappointed.

    @ConteZero

    No you can't - this notebook uses M.2 card format rather than mini PCI Express
     
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    Are there any problems if i change the Atheros chip with a Centrino 6235?
     
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    Most likely yes - the fact that Intel 6235 will be a mini PCI Express card. You need M.2 factor.
     
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    So you decided to keep yours? What's your opinion on keeping this versus sending it back and getting the GL551? Do you think there are any other build quality issues with this machine besides the wifi? I haven't really had time to test it as much as I would like to, been worried about the wifi issues foremost.
     
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    I haven't had time to install the Intel 7260, I got for it yet. Planning to do it tonight. If that works than I'll decide to keep it.
     
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    Mine is an LG Philips. Found it by using the downloaded tool HWiNFO.
     
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    Device manager > displays > properties >events.... You'll find it there under information...
     
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    Hi guys,

    I´ve got my new VN7-791 since today and I am very happy with it. But my display has some backlight bleeding in the right top corner. Does someone have the same problem? Do u know whats to do to fix it? :(
     
  20. Joshva

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    It doesn't detect there.

    Using the download that the other fellow recommended it is a : LG Philips LGD0443

    I have tried to play around with the Intel graphics settings to raise the brightness. It helps a tiny bit but its still very dark
     
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    This may have already been mentioned in this thread, but I'm assuming that a USB wifi card is not a good option as a replacement for this laptop? How hard is it to replace the wifi card?
     
  22. ellalan

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    This video will help you decide the disassembly needed to replace the wifi card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl8dd7R555s
     
  23. ssalgadom

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    Well, after doing a lot of research, reading through forums, reviews and videos, with a budget around $1000 - $1300 USD, I came to the following gaming/workstation laptop options:

    Acer
    Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition
    VN7-591G-74SK ( Link)
    $1,300 USD

    MSI
    GE Series
    GE60 Apache Pro-003 ( Link)
    $1,250 USD

    ASUS
    ROG GL551 series
    GL551JM-DH71 ( Link)
    $1,100 USD

    Lenovo
    Y50 Series
    59426157 ( Link)
    $1,100 USD

    All sold by Newegg or Amazon - It's important to get the exact model right, because there are many differences by brands and similar models.

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    First is important to know what is the use you will be giving to this laptop, will it be a replace for your desktop? will you need mobility? will also be used in business meetings? - In my case I am looking for an affordable gaming/workstation laptop, as I work within programming, multimedia, web design, and also like to enjoy a couple games every once in a while, even tough I don't play all the latest games, if in the near future one of the new games attracts me I want this laptop to be able to run it!.

    Saying that, I have decided to go for the Acer Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition VN7-591G-74SK, here my Pros and Cons for each one:

    Aspire V15 Nitro Black Edition VN7-591G-74SK:
    Pros: IPS Screen, comes with 16 GB RAM, 1TB HDD and 256 SSD (SSD really improves things), looks elegant and not too bulky (as I will be using it in business meetings), Back-lit Keyboard, two back ventilation fans.
    Cons: Seems people are having issues with the pre-installed wifi card, if that's the case I will replace it with an Intel 7260NGW or similar, that is only about $30 USD more and is really easy to replace. The 1TB HDD is only 5200rpm. Hard to access the battery and replace things as the HDD or RAM.

    MSI GE Series GE60 Apache Pro-003:
    Pros: IPS Screen, 1TB HDD 7200rpm, DVD±RW/CD-RW (You never know when you need it), Steel Series Gaming Backlit Keyboard (Multicolor), 2x USB 3.0 and 2x USB 2.0
    Cons: For almost the same price of the Acer, only comes with 8GB of RAM and no SSD (not sure if in the future you can add it without losing the HDD), only one ventilation fan in the left side. Also looks more bulky and I am not too fan of the "Gaming G Series" logo with the dragon. (Remember I will be taking this computer to business meetings, most of the times with people I don't know, so it is important not to show a mis-impression)

    ASUS ROG GL551 series GL551JM-DH71:
    Pros: Price, 1TB HDD 7200rpm, DVD±RW/CD-RW, 16GB of RAM, Backlit Keyboard, easy access to the battery.
    Cons: No IPS screen, no SSD (not sure if in the future you can add it), only one ventilation fan in the left side, weight, also looks a little bit bulky, not too fan of the "Republic of Gamers" logo.

    Lenovo Y50 Series 59426157:
    Pros: Price, 16GB of RAM, Backlit Keyboard, thin and elegant.
    Cons: Heard terrible things of the non-IPS Screen, 1TB HDD is only 5200rpm, only 8GB of SDD (But could be upgradeable).

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    All of this options include an Intel Quad-core Processor 4710HQ/4700HQ 6MB L3 Cache, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M, 15.6" Screen Size, DDR3L 1600 RAM, SD card reader, HD Webcam, Kensington lock, at least 3x USB ports and standard HDMI.

    Of course i have not consider other things as, the speakers (few computers are great on this), the trackpad (I use most of the time an external mouse), heating (is normal for a laptop to heat if you play top spec games), battery (is a gaming laptop, don't expect more than 3 hours and if you are gaming the laptop will perform better if it is plugged in), Brand (You can find great, good, bad and terrible experiences with different models of each one of this brands).
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    So as I always said to family and friends that ask me to recommend a laptop, first ask yourself what it will be used for?!

    Really enjoy reading you guys and wanted to share my overview, will be buying the Acer model in a couple days and after a couple weeks of using it will come back to share the experience.
     
  24. vortexmak

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    Do you know how this non-IPS display compares to Asus GL551 or Lenovo Y50 ?
     
  25. vortexmak

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    It seems neither the Acer Nitro model you listed above nor the MSI model have IPS displays.

    If you check Acer website and even NewEgg specs page , there is no mention of IPS. The 15 inch HD models seem to have TN displays
    Acer | Laptops | Models
    Only two of the 15" 1366x768 models have IPS.

    This is also confirmed by joshva. He has the model which I am looking at VN7-591G-74LK
     
  26. ssalgadom

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    I believe there is models with and without IPS screens, the Acer VN7-591G-74SK in Newegg is cheaper than in Acer website and under "Overview" they specify it has Full HD IPS Display, attached a print screen.

    Thats why I said is really important that you get the exact model you are looking for, so you know exactly what you are getting. :thumbsup:
     

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    I'm going to buy a 480GB M500 M.2 "drive" for my Nitro 791 ( NX.MQRET.007 ), will it fit ?
     
  28. RayJohnson

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    The model I purchased was the Aspire V Nitro VN7-591G-75NJ from the Acer Website. It is no longer available on there wesbsite right now because it is out of stock, but it was an IPS screen with 12GB of ram 1TB HDD and 128GB SSD. ($1199)

    http://store.acer.com/store/aceramer/en_US/pd/ThemeID.35703000/productID.308686600
     
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    Please do let me know how the wifi card replacment goes, I think I'm going to keep mine and I hope I don't regret this. I have been thinking hard about this, and the only other option for me is the GL551 and I could have bought that a long time ago if i wanted to. Although the build quality of the GL551 is probably a little bit more solid, it's bulkier, lacks the SSD & HDD option, and isn't IPS. I do think this Acer laptop is pretty decent and very portable, this wifi issue is annoying however. The biggest difference in speed for me seems to be when I change my router settings from "Mixed" to "8011.g only". I seem to be getting consistently around 8-11 MPBS download speed when I do that. In comparison I'm running a Nexus Tablet of my wifi in the same location I get about 8-14mpbs with it. The laptop should be getting much better speeds than a tablet that doesn't have a full wireless chip I would think. Anyway hopefully those speeds will get me by until I have time to replace the wifi chip. I need to be writing programs right now really don't have time to fool with it, and I seem to get a little bit higher speeds maybe above 15mpbs at times, in the next room closer to my router in my house.
     
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    Hi all!
    I got the Acer Aspire VN7 571G-535R with a full HD IPS Screen 500GB Harddrive and 128GB SSD for 799€. More specifications can be found here: Acer Aspire VN7-571G-535R Notebook i5-4210U SSD Full HD GF 840M Windows 8.1 (I am sorry, it is a German website)
    Anyways, I have the same Wifi issues which where reported before. I installed the tool inSSIDer and looked at the RSSI values. I got about -30 close to my router and -65/-70 at the other end of my flat. The speed drops significantly and I only get up to 2000 kbps whereas I get 8000kbps close to my router (which is the optimum I can get from my provider). Unfortunately, my router does not support 802.11ac but only a,b,g and n. I considered to buy the Intel Wifi card mentioned before and exchange it with the existing Atheors one. However, as my router does no support 802.11ac, I am not sure if I would benefit from the change. What do you think? Is it worth trying and will I get higher download rates with the Intel card even though I don't use ac? Are there any alternatives?

    Since someone asked for Display information: With HWiNFO I got for the monitor specifications
    Monitor Name: LG Philips [Unknown Model: LGD0443]
    Monitor Name: LG Display LP156WF4-SPK1
     
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    Intel 7260 has issues working on 2.4GHz band in multiple cases (mostly because it doesn't seem to be able to deal with interference from other networks) but it always works very well on 5GHz band (regardless of if it's 802.11n or 802.11ac). So if you have a dual band router you are guaranteed to have no issues with 7260 even if you don't have 802.11ac router.
     
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    Dooh, I do have to work on the 2.4GHz band. My router does not allow me to access the 5GHz band. Any other ideas?
     
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    It's kinda hard to get around it. Hopefully Intel improved drivers to the point where they are at least stable at 2.4GHz band (but not as fast as it should be anyway). I have tested several version of their drivers as I have an Intel 7260 but I god kinda bored because I was suing 5GHz 802.11ac anyway for daily use.

    The problem is that there is not much choice - Intel 7260 has its problems but it's at least widely available. Broadcom card is not as easily available and users also complain about it (to lesser degree though) and Killer M.2 is not exactly available in retail yet (although it is available in some notebooks).

    Point being - at this point Intel 7260 seems to be your only way to go.

    EDIT: If possible go for 7265 - it fixes an issue with card not waking up from stanby.
     
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    Installed the Intel 7260NGW AC and I'm now getting 18-21 MBPS in my living room. Hard to say if the Intel 7260 will fix the issue for other people.
     
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    That's good to hear. It's a high end notebook and as such it should have been equipped with a 802.11ac card (or at least a normal 802.11n dual band) anyway.
     
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    I have see two different links on the Acer Website, the one that was up when I purchased it and one that is up now that lists the same model, but one has 15.6" HD (1366 x 768) IPS, the one I purchased says 1920 x 1080 full IPS. Which one is correct why are they different? Is this a different computer? One says black edition but they are the same model number.

    1) Acer | Aspire V Nitro | VN7-591G-75NJ | Overview (current link)
    2) Acer Aspire VN7-591G-75NJ Notebook | Acer Store (old link)
     
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    @macknewm On 2.4GHz or on 5Ghz? ;)

    As the Intel 7260 only costs about 27€ it might be worth trying. I couldn't find the 7265 though, mabe it is not available in Germany yet?
     
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    Hi,
    have the exact same issue with the wifi card in my nitro notebook. Read through comments and decided to get the 7260. Contacted an eshop selling 7260 ngw ac, and they sent me a list of 7260 models to choose from. Which one is yours?

    7260.NGWGP
    7260.NGWGC
    7260.NGWG.F
    7260.NGWG.R
    7260.NGWGUX.R
    7260.NGWGC.R
    7260.NGWD.R
    7260.NGWG.I
    7260.NGWGU.I
    7260.NGWGC.I
    7260.NGWD.I
    7260.NGWGC.S
    7260.NGWGC.S
    7260.NGWG.SR
    7260.NGWGC.SR
    7260.NGWD.SR

    I have no idea what is the difference....
     
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    Ah, one more thing: I will mainly use Ubuntu 14.04 instead of Windows 8.1. Do you have any experience with the Intel 7260 and Linux? There are mixed comments on amazon. Some say it works out of the box, other say that they had a hard time getting their wifi to work.

    EDIT: If I am not wrong, there is also an Intel Wireless-N 7260 without 802.11ac (which costs only 11€ ;) and is also a M.2 card, cf. http://www.itmedia24.de/Shop/DE/Product/Details/3886/1272346/false/ (sorry again, german website, but the specs can be understood anyway).
     
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    O my, the one I bought was on amazon.com and it just said Intel 7260NGW AC. I have no clue what all those extra designations are after NGW!

    Looking through google.com, I do see people having trouble getting it to work at all with Ubuntu. But, in most cases they did eventually get it working, just not by plug and play.

    Also, using google the panel in my V15 Nitro which is a 74SK is an LG LP156WF4-SPK1. Which, according to this website is IPS.
    http://www.panelook.com/LP156WF4-SPK1_LG%20Display_15.6_LCM_overview_20274.html
     
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    It worked fine for me on Ubuntu pretty much out of the box on 2.4GHz band but failed to connect at 5GHz (it would see it but wouldn't authenticate as my 5GHz network is set to 802.11ac only and driver failed to support it properly at the time).
     
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    I just talked to Acer support and they told me apparently within a particular model of the Acer V nitro (for example VN7-591G) there are some computers that are shipped with 1920 x 1080 IPS and for some others it will be 1366 x 768 IPS. Smdh. That's why there is a discrepancy on the dtheir webpages I posted a link to above. I will have to check which one I got but it should have been 1920 X 1080 because that's what was listed on the website at that time.
     
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    This is the same model as my one. Do you also find the screen is quite dark? I tuned it using Intel's Display Driver tool for the 4600 and things look sharper now but still very dark. It hurts my eyes straining to look at it after an hour or so
     
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    Oh and YES you will get much higher download rates with the Intel 7260AC even without an AC router. I have an N600 router so wifi N 2 channel and it is much faster than the stock Acer card that was supplied
     
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    W T F Acer. They probably shipped Full HD IPS screens earlier and probably ran out of it. Now they are shipping 1366 x 768 screens on the same model.
    As of now, there is no 15.6" Full HD IPS model that I can buy :(

    I think everyone of you who bought this series should verify if you have an IPS screen and post your exact model numbers and display types if possible
     
  46. MikeyJo

    MikeyJo Newbie

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    Which frequency band do you use? 2.4GHz or 5GHz? I am asking because of the issues with 2.4GHz that the user "downloads" mentioned before. And I actually don't find my screen too dark. Compared to my old laptop it is way brighter.

    EDIT: One extra question: was it difficult to open the notebook? I heard from a couple of people that it is not that easy because you have to remove the whole keyboard. I found two youtube videos which described the opening and on those videos it didn't look to hard. Did you remove the DVD burner first or did you leave it where it was?
     
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    Snepmeister Notebook Enthusiast

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    I bought the 17 inch version, full hd ips an no wifi problems? :p
     
  48. RayJohnson

    RayJohnson Notebook Guru

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    I was so concerned about this I went home to check. I have the full HD IPS model1920 x 1080 luckily, or it was about to get sent back for sure. It would suck to get the 1366 one and not be paying attention. Since they listed Full HD for the model I bought It never crossed my mind the possibility that there were versions of that model out there being shipped out that weren't full HD smh.
     
  49. RayJohnson

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    What kind of wireless card is in your 17 inch one? Is it the same Atheros one in the 15" or something different?
     
  50. vortexmak

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    Good for you man, you got lucky.

    I need to find out if those models are coming back in stock.

    Also, if anyone has the non-IPS version of the Nitro, can you tell me how is the display quality and viewing angles. I might still buy it if it's okay.
    I was considering the Lenovo Y50 earlier but backed out as I heard the display sucked
     
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