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    Official Acer Aspire 5739G Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by tuηay, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. batboy2677

    batboy2677 Newbie

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    ok propolkin when I opened that bitcomet window again my computer froze... just like it normally did.

    I think I might have the same problem you did. How did you fix it?
     
  2. bernida

    bernida Notebook Consultant

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    @gt_101

    feel free to ask me anything about throttlestop (you also want to undervolt or what?)
    regarding to RAM timings etc., got NO IDEA about it I'm always afraid to touch those things ;)

    @batboy:
    heating does not seem to be an issue, but you already noticed that I think...which nvidia drivers do you have?
     
  3. batboy2677

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    Not sure...I'm going to go look now but just in case I look in the wrong areas i'll ask: Where do you go to find out what drivers are currently installed?

    On the NVIDIA GeForce GT 130M control panel it says the driver version is 280.26 if that helps.
     
  4. bernida

    bernida Notebook Consultant

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    ok, no in this case not...
     
  5. batboy2677

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    Ok where do I find what your asking for?
     
  6. propolkin

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    download any torrent from torrent-trackers and start to download file. If your pc will freeze - the problem is in LAN driver.
     
  7. batboy2677

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    ok... I think that's the problem then... I'll try figuring out a way to update it. Thx for the help.
     
  8. propolkin

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    If your computer freezes at this way - try to downgrade drivers of your LAN card. It helped to me. :)
     
  9. batboy2677

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    You happen to know where to download LAN drivers for this computer?
     
  10. propolkin

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    Here it is. ;)
     
  11. batboy2677

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    Thx for the link... but it turns out it didn't work... it still froze ><.

    Every time I go through this the following happens:

    * My screen flickers a little bit

    * Screen continues to normally work

    2~3 minutes later screen freezes (and the last sound played by the video repeats.) Forcing me to hard reset (there isn't even a blue screen telling me the problem).

    ...based on those symptoms I think it might be a hardware issue... the problem is I have no clue to figure out what hardware is causing this problem.
     
  12. bernida

    bernida Notebook Consultant

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    maybe try out a live linux cd like knoppix or ubuntu and when it runs stable over some time (with LAN) you can be sure its no hardware problem
     
  13. profd

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    Greetings to All.
    Whether tell please I can run this processor q9100 or 9200 on my 5739G.
    Or only 2 core like these T9800 - T9800.
     
  14. bernida

    bernida Notebook Consultant

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    hello profd and welcome to the forum,

    on the laptop you can not run quad-core processors
    only core2duos like T6600-T9900/Pxxx or X9100 will work

    normally the quads should run on the chipset but somehow the acer motherboard does not support quad cores
    someone already tested that out in this thread at around page 30 maybe (dont know)
     
  15. diplocentrus

    diplocentrus Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi all,
    new member but long time lurker...

    i also own an acer 5739g with the following specs:
    P7550 (2.26 Ghz, 1066 MHz FSB)
    GT 240M
    500 GB HDD
    4 GB stock ram
    Windows 7 home Premium

    I also had blue screen issues when downloading but only when I used downthemall, when I switched to jdownloader never experienced and blue screens again.

    Since lately I strarted playing some games with my son, I decided to try undervolting to avoid high temps especialy during the summer months.
    has anyone else tried undefrvolting a machine similar to mine to give me the correct voltage values?
    I have no previous experience with under/overvolting and I'd like to be safe than sorry...
    My current temperatures are:
    P7550 reads: 51-56C idle and 90-92C when playing (skyrim, left4dead2, TF2)
    and the GT240M from ~45C idle, goes to ~ 65-70C when playing.

    Haven't tried any cpu stress programs like orthos and the like.
    Temps taked using HWMonitor

    One more question, I'd like to upgrade a bit my RAM and go for 8GB.
    I used CrucialScan and it says my max RAM reads 4GB, is this the case or am I understanding it wrong?

    Sorry for asking too much :(
     
  16. bernida

    bernida Notebook Consultant

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    hello and welcome ;)

    8GB will work fine

    For undervolting, you best use ThrottleStop

    Here you have a picture of the important settings, the reason why I turned off the additional power save features is, that it sometimes uses a voltage below the stable limit and i recently got bluescreens on that

    tstop.png

    In your case, multiplier must been set to 8.5 (its your P7550 one)

    dont forget to press the "turn on" button at the lower right

    Then, you can start by decreasing the voltage step by step...start by some low value you just think of...1.0625 might be good...

    -while then running on lower voltage, use something like prime95 to ensure stability, so basically, decrease the voltage by a step, then if your system is stable for some minutes, you can decrease another step...at a special voltage, you will get sound loop and a bluescreen/restart but dont worry...this will mean the voltage is too low...remember the last stable voltage, set it and let prime run for an hour or so...then you can make sure its running stable... you can click save to save the settings and close the program (if you checked the box at the right in the image), it will keep your undervoltage

    some facts:

    -you may only want to undervolt if running on AC power
    -if you change power state in windows (such as turning AC power off and running on battery) it will reset your undervolt...just start throttlestop again when back on AC power
    -even only 1 step above the bluescreen-voltage will run fine (no need to be super-safe)....I get like an instant bluescreen when on 1.0375V but 1.05V its running fine (since >2 months now)

    good luck and if you have any questions, feel free to ask :)
     
  17. profd

    profd Newbie

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    Thanks.
    Whether one more question will work ATI 6750 here wrote that 6770 works and about 6750 nothing.

    Also i install SSD 60 Gb - Team Extream S2 in HDD bay and replace DVD to HDD sata creadle with the 650 Gb Samsung 5400 HDD.
     

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  18. diplocentrus

    diplocentrus Notebook Enthusiast

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    many thanks for your swift reply!

    just a quick question.

    You said to use throttleStop for undervolting but in all step-by-step guides I found online and also in NBR they suggest to use RMclock v.2.35.

    Is there a big difference in these two or whichever I choose I'll have the same results?
     
  19. bernida

    bernida Notebook Consultant

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    i dont think so...I use throttlestop as I dont have to keep it open...I start it once the system starts via autostart and i just close it then...Undervolt will be kept
    results are basically the same
     
  20. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    RM Clock does not fully support the newer 45nm Core 2 processors like you have. If your CPU uses 0.5 multipliers, if you want to use RM Clock, you will have to do a registry mod to get it to recognize the maximum half multiplier. ThrottleStop takes up very little in terms of memory or CPU resources, less than 0.1% so leaving it running when minimized to the system tray isn't going to hurt anything.

    If you prefer RM Clock, here's how to do the half multiplier fix.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/6130270-post4855.html
     
  21. diplocentrus

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    Thanks.
    Will start reading the links in your signature then.
     
  22. bernida

    bernida Notebook Consultant

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    still throttlestop is better :)

    no installation and/or registry, and I think the layout is better with easy access to all relevant functions
     
  23. exh

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    Hey, i m kinda noob when it comes to overclocking. i need some instruction on how to make my setfsb work. whenever i click 'get fsb' with 'slg8sp513v' i get a 'pll id error'.
    I have read that i should select 'slg8sp513vtr' but this pll is not listed in the dropdown box.

    I have flashed my bios and have the modded one that i got from the link in beginning of this post.

    i have acer 5739g gt240m t6600 with pm45 chipset
    thanks
     
  24. diplocentrus

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    sorry for having to bother you again :(

    tried throttlestop with the info you provided but no matter what I do the voltage is stuck at 1.0000 according to cpu-z.

    Did some search on the forum and from what I understand I have to also check the SLFM option to enable the voltage given by throttlestop, is this correct?

    The only button that is checked is the Set Multiplier and the Disable Turbo which I cannot alter anyway.

    Do I have to check anything else?

    Also when I'm done with the 8.5 multiplier, do I have to go lower and start tweaking the voltage there as well or is the 8.5 mark enough?

    thanks
     
  25. propolkin

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    If you want only to undervolt your CPU, I recomend to use RMClock. If you want to overclock, you have to use ThrottleStop. But, I`m sorry, I can`t help with ThrottleStop. :(
     
  26. bernida

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    sometimes you may have to turn it (throttlestop) on and off and then it works...dont know

    the maximum multiplier for your cpu is 8.5, you can increase it in the box of course but it wont go higher than that 8.5 actually (but can cause instability)
    so actually, changing the voltage when turned on should change the voltage on the fly
     
  27. tuηay

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    Wow guys, so many problems with your 5739's ? :D

    Umm, yeah, my laptop still don't work with a new GPU, so I have kinda given up on this… And as I'm very busy these days, I still let it sit...

    You can't decrease your timings. What you can do is down clock both CPU and RAM timings… I tried to flash RAM timings (permanent) but it still didn't work out… There isn't many tool out there which can read/modify DDR3 RAM sticks, so be careful because DRR2 tools can turn your RAM sticks into a expensive toilet paper…

    For the timings, it is like lower is better, but you can't go a whole lot down… And if you want to over clock FSB then you have to increase your timings or your laptop will crash on you… So let's say if you have 7-7-7-20 I would make that something like 7-8-8-25 before I set the new FSB with SetFSB/CPU…

    Let me know if you didn't understand a single thing of this…

    You know what? We two are in the same boat!!! I've had the same issue as you, after a while with this YouTube problem as I called it my laptop died altogether… It won't turn on at all now, I have replaced the GPU/RAM/HDD still no go. I have repasted the CPU still nothing… I'm afraid it actually is a dead motherboard…

    It is a classic sign of GPU issue, but it wasn't, not in my case...
    You can run Core 2 Duo CPU's… But as bernida said, PM45 should be able to handle even a QX9300. I think it is related to a BIOS issue (or PSU). I've tried a lot to solve this, but no go… No one wanted to have a look into this, I even offered them a glass of bear, or soda… :D

    Unclewebb! It is so nice to see you over here :)

    You have to have the modified BIOS installed, or you won't be able to any over or under clocking!


    Let me know if I have missed anything, it was a lot in one post :D
     
  28. propolkin

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    I have on plans buying the QX9300 and test it on my notebook - will it boot on, or not. But, I`ll have to chose between 6770m, M5950 and QX9300...
     
  29. tuηay

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    Make sure you can return it. proplkin…

    I'm now sitting here with a 130M, 240M, T9900, almost brand new RAM modules and a new looking 5739G and have no idea what to do...
     
  30. bernida

    bernida Notebook Consultant

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    nope

    I'm not using modded BIOS (I'm using ACER Bios) and I am able to undervolt/underclock

    Only Overclocking wont work
     
  31. tuηay

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    Seriously? I've even had to install modded BIOS to fix my timings…

    Crossfire GTI were able to over clock even without a modded BIOS :D

    I guess it depends and varies from every single chip then...
     
  32. propolkin

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    What? Undervolt through BIOS? o_O
     
  33. bernida

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    yes...i got the standard acer 3310 bios and i can undervolt without problems
     
  34. tuηay

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    Not through BIOS… He can use software to under clock with stock BIOS, something I can't… You can neither over clock or under clock in BIOS, no matter modded or not.
     
  35. propolkin

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    Oh. I can underclock too with RMClock, as do the undervolt with 3310 Acer BIOS.

    Have you tried to use RMClock, tunay?
     
  36. diplocentrus

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    I don't think you need the modified BIOS to undervolt.

    I tried undervolting with both trottlestop and RMclock but the voltage didn't change.

    Then I tried again with throttlestop with the option SLFM enabled and this time it was actually happening.

    In both cases I used cpuz to see it voltage was actually dropping.
    in the first case there was no change in cpuz and the second case with the SLFM marked enabled the voltage was changing.

    My question is, is it safe to have SLFM enabled and undervolt or am I doing something wrong?


    Something worth mentioning is that the temperature reported by HWMonitor is ~10C higher than the temperatures reported by RealTemp_370.
    Strange.
     
  37. Meaker@Sager

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    Super low freqency mode is designed for low level desktop work where you just need a little bit of processing power but not much and tries to increase the battery life doing simple tasks.
     
  38. bernida

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    SLFM causes crashes on my undervolt...

    Dont know what is wrong with your laptop, in my throttlestop, NO checkbox is checked except for the set multiplier one

    For VID monitoring you can use CPUID indeed, but IMO CoreTemp is better because it displays the full 4 decimal places and does not round it

    To the Temp thing, there are 3 possible temps for ther cores that can be displayed.... Strange in this Laptop...
    IMO Coretemp readings may be most accurate (30C idle is more realistic than 40 - i touched the heatpipe at the cpu and it wasnt really warm)
    BUT
    The only Temperature that is really of interest is the THRM reading you can see via HWMonitor.
    If this goes past 95C, your laptop will shut down. (96C will last about 1-2s then poweroff)
    I really hate this, other laptops dont just shut off, but underclock/volt very heavily when too hot but whatever
     
  39. diplocentrus

    diplocentrus Notebook Enthusiast

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    in my laptop no matter how low I set the voltage in throttlestop, the actual voltage isn't changing.

    It changes only when I enable SLFM.

    Maybe it's just a bug, so I asked in the trottlestop Guide thread.

    regarding the temp reading in HWmonitor from what I read it must be cause HWmonitor TJMAX is set at 10C higher.
    It reads 100C instead of 90C hence the 10C difference with RealTemp.
     
  40. tuηay

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    diplocentrus, do you have the modified BIOS installed?
     
  41. diplocentrus

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    no I don't.
    but i don't think it's necessary to have it since it's not mentioned anywhere in the trottlestop guide and lots of ppl confirmed it is working OK without it.
     
  42. tuηay

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    I see what you mean, but it depends on every single chip… You'll never know how your particular laptop will act, yet alone the whole series...
     
  43. Owner5739G ver.2

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    So whats with the QX9300, did it work?
     
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    Hi guys,

    Basically I'm interested in swapping my crappy GF GT 130m into cool, shiny and red AMD 6770m.
    However, I couldn't find here any post explaining whole process.
    Changing card is not a problem for me but most tricky bit is cooling system. Will the stock one be enough to cool this beast?
    Also, should I swap CPU for something faster? ATM I have T6600 there.

    My last question is if I need any BIOS modifications to run this graphics or is it necessary only when I'm thinking about OC?

    I do apologize if such questions are answered already, however, it's 3am here, in UK, and I can't be fancy searching through 85 pages topic. :(
     
  45. propolkin

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    Hello there! ;)

    1) Stock cooling system will be enough if you will not overclock your CPU and GPU
    2)If you changes the CPU to T9900 or X9100 - mostly the laptop will overheat. It depends on health of heatpipe and thermalpaste you are using. And ofcourse depends on ambient temperature.
    3)Moded BIOS is necessary only in case of OC. Good OC processor is X9100 - but it is very heat CPU. I`ve only done undervoltage from 1.25V to 1.085V.
     
  46. bernida

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    yep, look at my signature, I also have a T9900 and I'm undervolting it, system runs stable so far with undervolt, at stock voltage of 1.25V gaming or any CPU-heavy task are impossible, it will basically just shut down
     
  47. exh

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    So whats the point of having a better cpu which you cant fully use? i was also interested in buying a new cpu but if it overheats its useless...
     
  48. bernida

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    i can use my cpu with undervolt. full primestable
     
  49. exh

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    doesnt an undervolted cpu perform worse than at stock voltages? i m sure i have read somewhere it makes a game spike every now and then
     
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    downloads No, Dee Dee, no! Super Moderator

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    No it doesn't perform worse. Undervolted is not underclocked.
    Performance is exactly the same- you just choose lower voltage to reduce the amount of heat emitted but at the same time keep the voltage high enough for CPU to be stable under load- that's the trick balancing it properly.
     
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