Official Acer Aspire 5739G Owner's Lounge

Undervolting would only limit how much a chip can overclock.

 

Yesterday I received the new processor T9550 fromebay and it work good/
Also I bought the videocard ATI6750 from IMAC it work but picture only from hdmi (bios or windows) bu no picture on notebook display, test in 3D mark work great.
Please help that I should make that it correctly work ?
I already flash mod bios Aspire 5739G BIOSv3310 VT MOD R3 bu it not help.

 

Hi!

Where did you get this Video-card? How does it much?

 

From ebay.de - price 90 evro.
I can find only information about moding bios radeon HD 4000 series in HEX editor.
I try flash another bios on programator (before this i read original bios to file) - but card and notebook not start.

 

That`s strage, because this video-card, as I know, has the 6700M GPU, such as 6770M. But there is only difference in GPU, shader and VRAM clocks. I can`t find any information about this video-card type ( MXM III Type-A or B ). Are you shure, that this video-card fits our notebook? And its price is very strange too, because in ebay video-cards with this GPU are very expensive - 555- 560 US Dollars.

For example, there is 100% that 6770M fits our notebook, such as 4750M or 5950M FirePro (Professional videocard for gaming and job ).

 

This car is MXM III Type-A and clock is 600/800 information from bios Apple K60 Whistler PRO C29505/06 GDDR5 32Mx32 100e/149m 0.9V.
GPU chip - WHISTLER.
I try to overclock it 650/800 and it work great but picture onli HDMI.
At Aple maybe diferent LVDS protocol or it disable on this card.

 

Hi Everyone,
Long time reader, new to posting. I am in need of some advice with my upgrades to my Acer 5739g.
I recently installed the following upgrades with no problems:
T9600 cpu @ 2.6ghz
8gb crucial ram
adda green dot fan

Now I just bought a FirePro m5950 gpu for a good price that I want to install but am having issues with it. I currently have an NVidia gt130m that I removed and replaced with the m5950. However, when I startup the laptop, I just get a black screen. The computer boots fine and I can feel the gpu heating up inside, but there is only a black screen. I tried removing the nvidia drivers and cleaned the system, but nothing is working. I only have Acer bios installed and no overclocking on the cpu. Is there something else I need to do to make this new card work?
I am wondering that since I had an Nvidia card before there is maybe some compatibility issues?

 

There could be a problem, when you "decapitated" notebook. )) I had such a problem - helped taking appart notebook and reassamble it again.

Strange. I know that for some videocards you have to update or configure VBIOS of your videocard to make it working with your notebook. I`m sorry, but i can`t help you with that. I had never done this before.

 

I thought about trying to flash the bios with a modified or unlocked bios if one exists, just to see if there is any different boot setting that might recognize the card. (any links to that would help =)

The other option was to take apart everything and pull the cmos battery to see if resetting everything would make any difference.

Do you think it would be possible to have a dead video card but have it still get hot when the computer starts, as if it is running?

 

Try to conect external display HDMI or VGA - and check it work or not.

 

Yes, it is possible. I had this situation with another notebook and its videocard - some old acer ( it had P4 CPU (from Desktop PC), HDD from Desktop PC and RAM from Desktop PC ). It had dead AGP 8x videocard, but it still was warm, when notebook was booted.

Try to connect external HDMI or VGA display and see will it work?

 

I connected an external HDMI to it and still no display. I also flashed the unlocked bios to it that is posted at the beginning of the forums. The flash went fine and the bios is unlocked now... pretty cool... but still not video card success. Any other ideas? Is there a way in the bios to make it accept the ati card, if that is the reason.

 

To flash Videocard`s BIOS. I don`t know, how to do it, but it is possible. It is like to make videocard 'know', that she will be working in 5739G.

As I remember, in this forum there are some sites, where is some instructions and examples of VBIOS flashing.

 

Hey fellas,

just a little update to the NVIDIA-driver black screen issue. Yesterday they released new beta drivers 301.24, although no WHQL-release yet and maybe buggy BUT they are working so far

You can grab them here

gotta love NVIDIA even if it took AGES for them to fix this

 

Hey guys,

How is it going?

So listen; I do not have any spare time at the moment to fix my laptop, I and it so sad that it is just sitting there and do nothing! Let me know if anyone wants to buy it for either parts or as it is! Pictures can be uploaded if wanted.

 

I'll leave that post but any offers should be made via PM or ads be posted in BST section of the forum.

 

Thank you downloads. The reason why I mainly posted it here were because of the direct interest in this thread…

But I should have mentioned that offers should go through PM. Sorry for that.

 

hey guys

i always had this issue but now i am trying to solve that. as you might know, the gt240m has the power(clock) states (i will only list core clocks, shader/memory clock and vcore change proportionally): 135MHz, 405MHz and the full 550Mhz (or whatever you overclocked it to)

the problem is, if you go from high performance (on AC) to power saver (on Battery) by jsut plugging off your AC, the graphics card is clocking down to a maximum of the 405mhz. Thats ok, on battery i want to save power. Same thing happens even in high performance on ac when pressing the energy saver button to the right rear of the laptop. OK so far

the problem is, once it clocked down, it wont get full clock speed again, REGARDLESS of what you do (pressing buttons, changing profiles, changing battery,....) so sometimes I plug out the AC (running on battery) to transport my laptop, then I want to play with AC back up again, but I get low framerates jsut because the damn card is limited to 405Mhz. Also EVGA Precision or any other tools fail, profiles are applied but no change in clock speeds.

Same thing happens btw if the graphics driver is restored (e.g. too much OC/heat), then its also limited to 405mhz

The only thing you can do is to restart your laptop...

Any1 a solution to this?

 

Does the current version of setfsb does not support the 5739g anymore?
If i select SLG5SP513V it just gives me the PLL ID Error.
Any suggestions?

 

I think it is built-in-function in VBIOS of videocard - when there are no changes made using software videocard after restoring AC power is proceeding on working with stock clocks. When there are changes through software - VBIOS can`t get them back to the default.

I have question - are you able to change a voltage of videocard? I used EVGA Precission, but I can`t change voltage on it.

 

Try to use older version of setfsb?

 

I used Version 2_2_134_98 as it was the latest freeware.
Should i try a higher version?

What version did you use?

 

no i also couldnt change vcore of the gpu...

but the clock issue thing sucks...

 

I don`t use this software, because I don`t overclock my CPU. Try to use older version of setfsb.

 

I´ve now tried versions:
2.2.115.87
2.2.128.94
2.2.129.95
2.2.133.97
2.2.134.98
2.3.173

Not working at all. Any suggestions?


Edit:

I was just looking for either a T9900, T9800 or T9600. If I´d order one on ebay, i have to make sure that it´s for 479-pin micro-BGA479 and NOT for 478-pin micro-FCPGA, right?

 

Someone had the same question before and my previous post pretty much tells it all:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/acer/588074-official-acer-aspire-5739g-owners-lounge-70.html#post8253312

 

Driver related?

2 factors:

1. Your CPU runs out of voltage limit and that's the cause.
2. You don't have modded BIOS installed. I were unable to overclock without it.

 

Thanks, that helps a lot. But if I can get my hands on a SLGKH for a comparatively small price, is it worth the risk? It is pre-tested, which frankly doesn´t tell anything about its compatibility to the Aspire 5739g. But luckily, I live in Germany, where we can send back any items bought from online shops for 2 weeks and get our money back, it´s a law here. Especially under these circumstances, worth the risk? Thanks again, your help is appreciated!

1. Could you please elaborate on that? Simply said, does it mean a P7450 is just not build for overclocking - or more exactly, MY P7450 is just not overclockable?
2. I have your modded BIOS installed and changed all settings in it according to your guide.

 

kein ding, mach ich doch gerne; oha ein landsmann hier

(back to english)

sure SLGKH will work. The point is if a pin isnt soldered well it may break and that could possibly lead to the destruction of the cpu. no one knows how stable these pins are when it comes to temperature changes or mechanical force as they are added in small private factories.
also I wouldnt rely on that law, if you buy from foreign countries and want your money back its very often alot of stress to make things clear, especially when its an asian country/china
thats definetely not racist but indeed the case. I lost 70$ once at something like this, you cant do anything.
TBH, when I bought my T9900 I also ran the risk of maybe losing money...but in the end things went well (even if cpu was wrapped in non-antistatic plastic foil, I nearly had an heart attack when opening it)
Also I dont think the 2 weeks are covered by foreign shops, or where are you buying it from?

I mean you can give it a shot, its your choice. But I/we have warned you, it may run well without any problems or not.

grüße und schönes wochenende

 

Hallo


I think it´s worth the risk as cheap T9900s become even more rare in the future. That´s why I just ordered it. Delivery will take up to 12 working days but i´m already restless. So i build a very cheap notebook cooling pad on my own. If anyone´s interested, i could post photos of it. Had a temperature drop of about 5°C running Prime95, but the pad is not yet fully finished.I expect 3-5°C less, when it´s done I hope this will reduce the risk of running a SLGKH.

 

well ok, post your results, that would be nice, I am interested

do you have the P7450?

what are your prime temps? (and measured by what program?)

max. THRM reading of hwmonitor would also be interesting.

 

1. Simply, any P series CPU is almost impossible to overclock due to the low voltages. Which is the whole point of a P series CPU.

What happens when you press SetFSB to apply your new clocks? (No, I did not read the whole thread few ten pages back if you wrote it back there).

2. The BIOS itself is not mine, but I wrote a how to post back in days if that's what you talking about

 

@bernida

I will post pictures when the cooler is finished. I still have one problem to solve, though. I don´t know exactly how to connect a fan to my notebook that supports the built-in fan to suck the warm air out of the notebook. My goal was to build a notebook cooler just with things i already got at home, so it´s kinda tough. But I have several ideas worth trying.
Yeah, I have the P7450. Without anything changed, max Temps @hwmonitor were up to 88°C. RMClock and undervolting the CPU to 1.000V brought max Temps to ~76°C. With my half-finished nb-cooler I got max temps of 70-71°C running Prime95 for around 35 minutes.
I got kinda different results from RMClock. Max Core temp running Prime95 is only 59°C. I don´t know which program is right, but I tend to believe RMClock is more exact.

@ tunay

1. Ok, thanks. Good to know Whatever Clock Generator I choose, either nothing is changing at all or i get an insta freeze.
2. Hehe, that´s what I meant

 

IMO Coretemp is maybe most accurate at real temperature.
But: there is only one important temperature. its the THRM reading of HwMonitor. Its like an ACPI temp, this temp will change fan speed and will also force the laptop to shut down on overheating (95°C will run stable, after 1-2s of 96°C --> instant shutdown)

so the THRM reading is the only one you should care about when installing the T9900. At my setup with stock 1.25V, prime would force the laptop to shut down after ~1-2min (Intelburntest 10 seconds lol), now with undervolt its stable. Several hours of gaming and benchmarks showed that even with CPU+GPU stress (gaming, GPU: no furmark) THRM max. is 87°C, which is very good. (It takes alot more to get to 95C)

Still you can easily force the system to shut down when using IntelBurnTest with Furmark. IMO Intelburntest is no criterion for a stable system as it is like producing very heavy loads which kinda no other application/benchmark ever produces

As I said, at no game/application THRM got beyond 87°C (=stable)

 

bernida, does your T9900 runs fine on 1.0625V or is it shutting down sometimes in very heavy load?

I`ve made a modification to notebook - cooper radiator, which is attached to CPU thermal plate. If some one is interested, I can download here the CAD drawing of it with dimmensions and architecture.

 

oohayrr, it is your CPU or RAM that can't handle the new clocks.

If you want to make sure it is not your RAM sticks before making any modification, go to BIOS and disable one of the CPU cores. And do the over clock again. It will this time most likely work, but only with single core.

Let me know if there is anything else.

 

An upload of the cooling system would be very nice!

Actually, I ran the CPU at 1.05V for 2 Months, primestable and gaming stable (>3 hours or so), but in this time I got 2 or 3 bluescreens of which I dont know if they come from too low voltage, but it was likely. Then I just increased it by one increment and so far now it runs stable (like before), no bluescreens yet.
Last week I had freeze with sound loop while loading a game, no BSOD though, so I dont think this was related to the CPU voltage, because if voltage was too low I always get bluescreens.

Short answer: yes.

 

My X9100 runs stable in 1.0625V untill it is loaded to heavy.

I`ve attached .pdf file with drawing of copper radiator.

 

nice work!

how do you make it? by yourself (if: how?) or do you send the drawing to a firm and let it make?

I would love pictures of the laptop inside when its finished! You could also tell us your new temp results

 

I had 2 copper plates. In one thickness 0.3 cm, the second 1cm. That which is 1cm, I cut off 0.3 cm and made fastening. Connected fastening and a plate with two brass bolts, then ground off their heads. Established on processor thermoelement, fixed up with thermalglue. Fixing on it is not enough - I will make additional fixing plates which will fasten to a radiator and plastic bearing, which is near a hard disk. After that I`ll make a photos and post it here.

For that moment - max temperature on the full load on the CPU is 84 - it is bad contact with thermalplate of the processors. Theoretically - with this radiator and my thermal paste processors will not heat over 77-80 C.

 

Damn, after reading for days now on this forum, I just couldn´t wait anymore and ordered a 6770m.
When all parts arrive and are hopefully working, I´ll have my 5739g running a T9900 / Ati 6770m / Crucial m4 128gb / 4gb Samsung Ram / self-built notebook cooler (still waiting for parts to arrive)
Also ordered these to keep the chipset a few °C cooler http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31o4NwuMCBL._AA300_.jpg

http://www.mindfactory.de/product_i...l-SQ-Series-DDR3-1333-SO-DIMM-CL9-Single.html
These do work in the Aspire 5739g, aren´t they?

 

where did you order the 6770m?

ram should work.
does your cooling system change the portability of the laptop (do you have to cut something in order that cooling system fits?)

 

I´ve ordered the 6770m @ AliExpress - Buy directly from China for just 138$. I am aware of shipping taking up to 30 days but I just couldn´t resist. I´ve read on this forum of several successful orders as well as some problems with returning shipments. But no risk no fun

The cooling system is more of an regular notebook cooler like this one http://www.casemouse.com/cooler/cooler_master-nbc-k3210.jpg . It´s totally independent from the laptop itself but is still custom-built for an aspire 5739g (positions of fans etc.). It features 2x 120mm Corsair fans and continuously adjustable control for each fan. I also adress the issue of dust being blown into the system by installing several dust filters. As the openings of the laptop are not ideal for airflow I plan to keep the bottom off of the laptop when playing games etc. This shouldn´t be a problem as the cooler fits the notebook perfectly without any big openings anywhere. But I´ll see about that, when the real test comes in form of all the new parts But I don´t want to upload pictures until it´s finished, bad luck etc

 

What a surprise, my T9900 was delivered today! One week before ETA It´s already running Primestable @stock voltage and undervolted @1.0625V.
Max temps hwmonitor shows are 87°C @1.0625V, but hangs mostly around 84-85°C running Prime. Is this temperature ok?
As soon as I get home again, I will try gaming-temps.

yayyy

 

nice, you are having pretty much the same temps as me
(you are talking about THRM, do you?)

if so, temps are very well. Now without any mods, you wont get it cooler, so you actually have the best result that you can get atm

 

That's a good sign. And as the thermal paste has only broken in for about 4h it may be even cooler in a few days
I experienced some bluescreens when starting 3DMark06. Everything else worked fine (Prime, games etc) but just to make sure, I am reinstalling Win7 right now. If these bs still exist I don't really know what to do.

EDIT:

Games, Prim and 3DMark running fine now. But my 3DMark06 score is rather low:
Cpu&Gpu @ stock: 6303 - which only slightly above my score with P7450
Cpu @ stock/Gpu @ 650/900/1350: 7055 (compared to 6630 with P7450.

 

dont overestimate the whole thing. You still own a Core2Duo System and not Core i, you will get a certain boost, but your system wont perform like a brand new-gen laptop. This is also the reason why I decided not to buy a HD6770M, it may boost things alot, but its not gonna "kick-" like if you buy a brand new laptop.
Getting a T9900 for a P7450 will boost up CPU-heavy tasks, but in gaming (or generally for overall performance) there are only few changes.


oh, wow, i just got 8250p @3dmark06 at my specs...maybe with a 6770m it can reach 9,5-10k or so...

 

God damn it! I want that videocard. I saw this v-card on ebay for 559.99 US dollars. And here it is for only 139$. I`ll buy it as soon as I`ll have enough money for it.

 

Ok, understood. Main thing for me is that Diablo3 is running smoothly, which I´ll find out May 15th
How the hell can you get more than 1k points more @ 3DMark06 than me? Any ideas?
EIDT: I think I found the cause. Are you running 3DMark06 on your laptop display or on a second monitor? I didn´t even think of that, because I´m always using my 26" monitor. But when running 3DMark06 on my laptop only without the other monitor, it reaches 8230 points

As I said, I couldn´t resist either when I saw the price

 

Hi guys. I just got a 5739g, installed a P8700 and a HD6770m. Everything went well, Arctic Silver 5 was applied and all appeared well.

Since putting Windows 7 on it, I soon discovered the fan will not respond properly, it works fine until I load the CPU up with Prime95 for example. Then the fan mysteriously stops. HWmonitor also shows that the Motherboard temp drops from 40-50 degrees c to anywhere from 0-20 degrees.

The fan will then do a super fast on and off, as in revving up and shutting off again for a couple seconds. This means the temps go through the roof and I shut prime down near 80 degrees.

I thought I would force the fan on with the GPU BIOS but seems that it wasn't wanting to flash correctly, so bottled it. I have also tried SpeedFan, but nothing appears to force the fan on when I want. Would prefer not to pull a cable to force it on, but if thats what it takes, I'd consider it.

Just to be clear the GPU is fine, and Furmark will push it to an expected 80 degrees, on standard settings. The CPU will sit average at 35-40 degrees. But as I want to play a few games with this I want to know that the fan will work properly. Apologies for the long post. Want to give as much info as I can.