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    Official Acer Aspire 5739G Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by tuηay, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. Avora

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    The speaker grills are always dusty. Its difficult to clean. And the paint your best off with a sticker or something.

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Hey what did you use to get the hitachi in optical bay?
     
  3. Avora

    Avora Notebook Consultant

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    This, you just slot it in with the DVD's front on it and no one knows the difference until you push the button. Make sure it is the SATA version. You can get PATA, which is completely different.
     
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    Ok, finally i did it, but i'm not satisfied at all, because yes the temperature has dropped a lot, but I expected more, in fact I'm thinking of adding 2 more identical heat pipe(i've paid only 10 euros), the temperatures now are near 80 °C in games like battlefield 3 with downvolt(i tested it for about 1 hour) and it's stable at 92°C at 3.33 GhZ always in BF3 here are some photos: [​IMG]
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  5. Avora

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    Excellent work. But the major problem is you are taking heat away from air flow. I still think that a pipe on top of the existing towards the fins will give you much better heat capacity. The heatpipes there have no where to move the heat. Also, the chipset underneath tends to get very warm. So could be reducing the potential aswell, even though it might not touch. To be honest we have no space at all for anything. Are these temps with the cover on or off? I found some more breathing just taking out some of the grills with a knife. Still, your laptop is extreme in every way. :thumbsup:
     
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    Thanks, however i think you're right... but unfortunately we haven't enough space near the main heat pipe, there isn't enough space to position another two heat pipes and than i thought that the only way to fit 2 heatpipes were place them behind(i drilled a lot the back cover to have more air flow :D )...anyway i've ordered another 2 identic heat pipes because i'm not satisfied but i still have some good ideas don't worry :D :D
     
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    Does anyone tried p9700 processor ? Is it works ?
     
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    No one has tried the p9700 but it's a dual core then it should work, but why?
     
  9. Avora

    Avora Notebook Consultant

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    It will work. And you would because of heat and battery life.

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
     
  10. Avora

    Avora Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone know where I can get the SUNON fan from? Mine is the ADDA and seems abit crappy when it is running flat out. Also the SUNON is recommended earlier in this thread.

    Scratch this: Ordered one from China I found. £8. Hope it actually arrives.
     
  11. Racer1

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    I need your help please, because no one answered me in my thread. I read about a BIOS mod for overclocking the cpu in the 5739G. I have a 8735G and I want to OC my X9100 a little more, but with FSB not multiplier. There is a BIOS mod out there: http://forum.notebookreview.com/ace...ix-bios-bios-mod-request-190.html#post7298370
    Will this work for me like on the 5739G and how to mod the bios correctly? Can anyone help me?
     
  12. Avora

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    No mention of it helping out with an OC. So I doubt you would be able to.
     
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    Ok thanks.
     
  14. propolkin

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    Hello there!

    I`ve found in ebay GT540M MXM 3.0 Type A. Just like ours GT240m and HD6770M. Anybody know, will this video card fit our notebook?
     
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    bernida Notebook Consultant

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    without knowing any details: whats the TDP/power consumption of the card? if its approximately the same/less like 6770m or the stock cards it -->theoretically<-- should work fine.
    hard to say if the system accepts the card though. you can give it a shot, would love to see any results!

    and yep, I'm also still here :D I guess the good old 5739G had its golden age (still using it as main PC though, waiting for some new-gen tech), but nice to hear something again
     
  16. propolkin

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    Card`s Power Consumption is 35 Watt only. The TDP of 6770m is ~25 Watt.
     
  17. bernida

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    thats actually pretty hot... 6770M is running pretty hot, now this is gonna add another 10W...
    also, maybe the power supply is a problem:
    35W(cpu) + 35W(GPU) + 4*5W(USB ports) + 2.5W (HDD) + 2W (maybe CD/DVD) is more than the actual 90W... I dont know dude... But if you feel lucky, give it a shot. Would love to hear any reports on that

    maybe it will work from the power-supply-point-of-view as you a) undervolted your cpu and b) gpu und cpu will almost never be stressed out to the max at the same time. would only happen with simultaneous benchmarks running like intelburntest(linpack) and furmark, and maybe not even then....
    also you wont have a full-5W-power consuming device on every usb port at the same time....

    so...it would be very nice if it works :)
     
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    It's not 5 W at each port. 5V*500mA= 2,5 W.
     
  19. Avora

    Avora Notebook Consultant

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    Isn't the gt540m worse than the 6770m? Not sure I'd want a hot nvidia card in my laptop anyway. Cheaper alternative I guess.

    Also, I'm sure my USB ports are supplying more than 500mA, my external drive runs off one port and the drive needs 750mA.

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    Racer1 is right on this 2.5W max- furthermore it's unrealistic that you would use all USB ports at max power-draw and DVD drive and HDD and both CPU & GPU.
    Realistically- that would be more like 35W CPU + 35 GPU +2.5W HDD= 72,5W

    What's left (~18W) should be easily enough for mobo and LCD display and then some.

    @ Avora

    USB 2 provides 500mA according to specs.
     
  21. Avora

    Avora Notebook Consultant

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    Don't forget that these figures are thermal output. Not current draw. Need more figures. All I can say is that you need a power monitor at the power brick. Soon see how high the use age is. I'll have a look later on today. It gets hot, damn hot, so I'd suggest its reasonably close to the limit with my p8700 and 6770m.

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  22. Avora

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    OK, so I found my power meter, and remembered how it worked. Running Furmark and prime95, running from ssd, no 2nd HDD, screen on full brightness etc. Charging the battery as well. My laptop was using around 75W peak. That's bound to be subject to some error it was fluctuating abit, and giving wild high readings of 200+ because there's a power factor along side. Not helpful. But, I'd say, current issues wouldn't really be a problem. Unless you have an over clocked x9100.

    Sent from my A200 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    just wanted to say that we have USB+ ports which means they can provide around 1A (5W)
    no specs there, the number may be between 500mA and 2000mA
    this is for example for external HDD drives, you dont need a Y-Cable on USB+ ports

    as power is not an issue, is the 6770M really better than 540M?
     
  24. Avora

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    I'd put the 6770m on an par with a GT555m nevermind the 540m. Its a superb card.
     
  25. bernida

    bernida Notebook Consultant

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    wow...
    I found a pretty cheap 6770M, is it the right version of 6770M? (are there even different versions kike ddr3/gddr5?)
    do you guys think this card is a trustworthy offer?
     
  26. Avora

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    Seems OK, although I can only think the blue board is from a Mac. And therefore incompatible. My board is green. Others are red. If contact the seller and ask if it is from a Mac and then you will have a better idea.
    Also beware of us import tax, it can be quite high.

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
     
  27. propolkin

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    What? Green? God damn it! But how? Why my green card did not work? I`ll purchase, I think, at this months the red one.
    -Card with Blue tecstollit is for Mac, as with black tecstollit.
    -GDDR5 is much better then GDDR3

    About usability of GT540m. Yes, the 6770M is much better than GT540m, even better than GT630m, GT555m, 5850M and so on. That is just information, that these cards could be compatible with our notebook. The main problem is not on Watts - if you are not using X9100 or Q9000 overclocked and overvoltaged, than there must not be any problems with power consumption. The main problem is heating of the card - these cards are designed for different heatsinks and cooling systems. The only way to make them running cooler - is to install additional cooper radiators and thermal pad for Vcard. I have X9100 undervolted to 1.0875V. That`s low comparing to 1.285V.
     
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    My green card works fine. It was more than likely just a BIOS thing or something. Although my card won't be recognised by Ati downloader. Think that's the same for everyone though.

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    Almost, HD5850 with GDDR5 is faster. 6770M and HD5850 with DDR3 will vary depending on game and resolution.
     
  30. propolkin

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    I`m talking about GDDR5 version. :)
     
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    Then you are incorrect, I have benchmarked both in the 7738G and the HD5850M was hotter it was also clearly faster.
     
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    Mobility 5850 with GDDR5 in stock takes about 2100-2200 points in 3DMark11, 6770M even with OC will not take more than 1800-1900 points.
    Just take a look and think which card will be faster: (5850) 800 cores / 40 nm, 128 Bit, GDDR5 or (6770) 480 cores / 40 nm, 128 Bit, GDDR5.

    If we will compare (5850) 800 cores / 40 nm, 128 Bit, GDDR3 with (6770) 480 cores / 40 nm, 128 Bit, GDDR5, in total we will have more or less equal cards. Anyway 6850 and 6870 are just rebranded 5850 and 5870 ))
     
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    I am experiencing seriously bad CPU bottlenecking from my laptop.

    Noticed it first in GTA IV. Saint's Row The Third, now even Driver San Francisco all their lowest settings. The GPU has essentially nothing to do. MSI Afterburner shows that the GPU in Driver utilises something like 30-40% of the GPU at any time. Yet frame rates are super low at 17-30 at best. Temps are around 70 degrees because the CPU is hammering away.

    Can't think what has happened here...but it can't be good. May have to replace my CPU with something faster.

    Any ideas?
    For the record I am running the latest 13.1 Catalyst drivers, however it has done this low frame rate since before I installed them.
     
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    Hello there!

    Could someone tell me, in the fan wires witch are +5V and GND? I don`t have now any voltmeter.
     
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    Red =5v. Black = gnd. Yellow is rpm of the fan. And White is the control pulse wire.

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    Thank you! ;) I`ll try to install second fan.
     
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    Avora... once You got so far with Your laptop why not getting T9900? anyway how does it works with HD6770m? I just got one and looking how to make it work In my 7739 :)
     
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    The heat output of the t9900 would have been too much for me. I didn't need the performance, except in open world games. And then I simply upgraded my desktop. So not much gaming happens on the Acer anymore.

    I was looking at the cheaper e8*** series chips. But again, the heat would be too much.

    Most games run well, just held back by the CPU though. The SSD helps hugely with general tasks and loading times. Was money better spent for me than the new CPU.

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  39. propolkin

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    Hello there!

    I`ve found interesting program, that can handle the control over rpm of our coolers. ac fan control - from Germany. Now, when it is approximately adjusted, with my X9100 I have temps not higher than 72C !!! It is the best result, that I`ve ever managed to push from this CPU. On the evening I`ll upload this program here.
     
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    Sounds like it will be highly useful to most. Get it uploaded :D
     
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    Hello. I have read about this ALOT here but i dont understand. why doesnt my 6770M work on my 5739G...

    Is this Video card working only with specific bios? specific version of 5739G?

    Cause all i get is a blank screen. Have tried 2 different 6770M cards and am super confused. Tried blindflashing even but i guess the MB says that "adapter not found" .....(im guessing that by the DOS usb light flashing)

    Is it possible that 6770M doesnt work cause default card was a NVIDIA 240M
    Please someone help. Give opinions.
     
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    You likely got 2 cards without bios chips on them, see the 7738G thread for details.
     
  43. Avora

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    People actually sell these cards without BIOS chips? Must say, mine was just a slot in job. Not sure what the card came from originally. Where did you get yours from?

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    My card is green...others have red. Doesn't matter to most so long as it has the right BIOS. The seller states it has been tested...so you could always try returning it. It is a good place to buy from as you are protected well.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Here is a link to the 6770m BIOS in my machine, taken via ATIflash in DOS. File size 128KB. So should be the correct file to be used rather than from GPU-z.
    It has been established that this is the Firepro BIOS, (Firepro is shown in catalyst) But is perfectly safe to use.

    6770m BIOS
     
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    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    ------------------ ATIFLASH v4.07 Log File ------------------
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    Wed May 8 00:24:32 2013
    Command Operation without options: -p 0 bios.bin

    Old DeviceID: 6740
    New DeviceID: 6740
    Old Product Name:
    New Product Name: Whistler XT GDDR5 64Mx16 100e/300m 0.9V


    Old BIOS Version:
    New BIOS Version: 013.010.000.009.039030
    Flash type: Unknown SPI

    Write fail
    0/20000h bytes programmed

    ERROR : press '1' to continue


    Yep there is no bios on the device.
    This is what i get when i try to write.
    Tried with different bios aswell from the website...that dell bios.
     
  48. Avora

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    You should be able to get the guy from the 7738g thread to embed your vBIOS in to the laptops BIOS, if you can do the same with the 5739g. Still experimental, otherwise fitting your own chip to the card. Which has also been tried before. I would try to get the seller to refund you or replace the card.
     
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    7738g thread - found it
    And ill probably send it back. But still want to check all options.
    Btw guys...thanks for the advice
     
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    No problem, it is easiest to get a card with a BIOS chip already on it, probably from a Dell, as my card is believed to have come from. I got it from Aliexpress, the listing showed a red board, but arrived and was green. The seller had pre-changed the BIOS to Acer ID so it would straight away.
     
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