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Great lifecycle of your laptop! ))) Even my was not put through such mess!That`s the confirmation of that notebooks quality!
About upgrades:
CPU: Currently, the best options are T9900 or X9100. T9900 - has locked multiplier. X9100 - unlocked multiplier with same clocks. X9100 for those of users, who want to overclock their machine hardly.
GPU: HD7770M (Extremelly rare, currently most powerfull for that notebook), FirePro M4000 (rare, expensive, professional version of 7770M), 6770M (still good card, not so rare, not so cheap).
RAM: Crucial 2x4Gb 1066 MHz.
Cooling: I prefer to use AcFanControl utility to control your fan spin speed. In additional, it is worth to use Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound to conduct heat from GPU/CPU to heatsink. In additionyou should use thermal pads with 6 W/mk minimum, attached at VRAM of the card.
If you have any questions in addition, feel free to ask us!![]()
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Im gonna get my shopping list together and do some hunting, I will post a pregress report asap, and a progress diary when i get to the maintenance part. Thanks again! This girl has another few years left in her yet ☺ -
NEW HP Elitebook 8770W AMD Firepro M4000 1GB Video Card 6050A2479901 W335MCDXR | eBay
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About processors: search for E0 ( SLGEE for T9900 and SLGE7 for X9100) versions of T9900 or X9100. C0 (SLGKH for T9900 and SLB48 for X9100) versions are pretty hot. T9900 has 35W TDP and X9100 45W TDP. That means, that X9100 runs hotter than T9900. So, you should search for T9900 E0 if you don`t plan to overclock your machine. For instance, I have X9100 with stock 3.06 GHz - it already gives extreme performance to me. Mostly I`m using CAD design software (AutoCad, Engineering Base) and playing demanding games, for that purpose this processor is more than enough.
P.S. That is very good, that you provide a link to what you are going to buy. Sometimes people, that`ve not upgraded their notebooks yet, they buy parts, that looks the same, but with different specifications. So, if you post here links to the items, I`ll help you to chose the right one.
For instance, those:
1. Intel Core 2 Duo T9900 3.06GHz 6Mb Cache 1066 MHz FSB
2. Crucial 4x2 Gb SO-DIMM 1066MHz RAM
3. Arctic Silver 5 for CPU/GPU and thermal pads for Graphics VRAM
P.S.S. If you`ll buy X9100 or T9900, I`ll share my settings for AcFanControl Utility. Believe me, you I`ll probably need that thing to cool down your CPU. And in addition, basically our notebook was not intended to use with such processors, thus you should downvolt CPU using RMClock or Throttlestop. I recommend to use RMClock, because its setting will be integrated to Windows Power Plan management. -
You Sir, are a legend! I'm gonna read up on the gpu now. Thanks so much for the links. It's a pricey upgrade, but it will be fun and a good learning experience to customize the laptop like this.
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That is only a few things, that I`ve listed, that you should know completely to make that notebook work great after hard modding.
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About the card, that you`ve posted. Don`t buy it, because it is romless version - there is no BIOS chip soldered on it. To run this card in our notebook, you need to integrate vBIOS of card in sBIOS of notebook, or solder a ROM chip on it.
So, you should buy this or this or this , for instance. If you zoom the first photo, you`ll se on the top left side of PCB 8-pin chip. Thus, that card has ROM chip soldered on it. To run such card in our notebook, you don`t need anything, except of updating sBIOS of computer. Other two cards are the same.
Sorry, that I`ve not told you that firstly - I was hardly sleepy after not sleeping 48 hours. Designing another one project for customer, when there is no time left - difficult task, you know. -
Can someone tell me, does X9100 QHBQ version has temperature sensors in it? THis is QS or ES version of X9100, thus, it is risky to buy it. But, this is E0 stepping version of X9100, so, theoretically, it is more overclockable and will not be so hot as C0.
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It's QS and it has sensors. I'm happily running it
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Thanks for information!
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That's an awesome find! I got mine for the same price from a Bulgarian seller. On eBay it used to go for twice as much!
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Hail new MXM III Type-A monster: M5100!
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Hi,
The Firepro M4000 looks like a great upgrade for my old and tired GT240M. The 240M can't handle decent frame rates for games.
Will any.DELL model PR80Cl do, or is there is a special board version/ BIOS type to look out for?
Also, is it possible to install an M4000 without having to mess around with the Windows 7 registry or completely reinstall Windows?
Less is more to me... rather buy something that works straight off.
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As I can see now, those M4000, that are now on sale in ebay are compatible with our 5739G`s without any additional modifications of vBIOS. Possibly, there would be needed only sBIOS update, but that is not hard to do.
Yep, M4000 is a great upgrade for our notebooks. But, now I think, that if I would wait for some 2-3 month before buying M4000, now I would buy M5100. So, if you are not hold down with certain cash amount, take a look at M5100 at ebay.But, the maximum power consumption under full load should be 50W, that is really much for our notebook. In the case of upgrade with M5100 you should think about upgrading colling system of the notebook too.
About installing M4000 in laptop. There is no additional "dancing with a tambourine" - just install new module, as usual. Don`t forget to switch PSU off from mains and take the battery out before taking apart the old card. In addition, take a note, that M4000 has special mounting X-bracket, that has to be removed from the card. It is hardly to doo - you should do it very, very carefully. After that apply new thermal paste. I recommend Arctic Silver 5. You should apply alot of thermal compound because of design of M4000`s chip. It is smaller for ~ 1mm comparing to GT240M chip. That would be great if you apply some thermal pads for VRAM.
About drivers, after installing M4000 in lappy, install drivers for AMD HD7770M. Because M4000 has 7770M`s architecture, there will be no problem with that. Of course you can try to install original drivers from AMD for M4000 or original drivers from DELL for M4000, but, I think, you will not be able to do it. I don`t know the reason, but those drivers were unable to be installed in my 5739G.
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Amazing to see this thread still going strong. I'm putting my 5739G out to pasture in the next couple of weeks - the battery holds enough for "19 minutes" now, and I treated myself to an R7 for a new job. My 5739G will retire to sit next to the TV in the front room to handle Media Center duties.
I only just signed up to the forums, but thank you everyone who posted in this thread with upgrade pictures, information and advice. I replaced my 130M with a 240M and T6500 with a P8700 with your unknowing support! It's most appreciated, thank you. -
madace, have you bought the M4000?
PenguinJim, For now days without part upgrades our notebook is only good as media center and for internet surfing. That`s great, that your 5739G still lives! -
hey guys
a long time since i posted the last time, but nice to see that some people are still using the good old 5739G, I am still using it as my (only) main PC, however I plan to build myself a Desktop in the future that will fit better for gaming etc. but not today and tomorrow
nevertheless
has anyone tried out Win8? are drivers working? any issues?
maybe I am grabbing an old SATA-2 3GB/s SSD (I think buying a brand new SSD is waste because they are all faster than what the 5739G is capable of) for that. any suggestions?
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Hey bernida!
My 5739G is as main PC too. Still. ))))
About Win8 - I still have not tried Win8. And I`m not thinking of trying it. Can`t tell something usefull about that. 3Gb/s is still good sollution for this notebook. I think that it is worth to buy such SSD. -
I bought SATA III drive (Samsung SSD 830) for my SATA II notebook exactly for this reason. Another thing to consider is that it's usually a better deal to buy an Acer with 1TB HDD and replace it with SSD of your choosing than to buy an Acer with SSD as standard. So in case I upgrade SSD 830 might be moved to my new computer and HDD from the new one will end up in my current notebook (that will be re-labeled to backup unit).propolkin likes this. -
Hello. I've been browsing this thread, and I was wondering if any of you could give me some advice regarding an overheating problem that my laptop has had since last year. I have the T6600 version with 4GB RAM and nVidia GT 240M. The fan is noisy as soon as I start up the computer and the temperatures are around 40-60 while on idle, and they increase as I start browsing. What usually makes it overheat to the extreme until it shuts down by itself is looking at any type of video for longer than 20-30 minutes. It happens even quicker if I try to connect it to a TV via HDMI.
I have opened up the computer (only the back, not the keyboard side) and cleaned it (there was barely any dust), but that didn't make a difference, so last year I got some Arctic Silver to see if that would fix the issue. It didn't. It would even shut down during regular use (browsing for a few hours). So this year, I tried re-applying the Arctic Silver. It's been about a week since I did so, and the temperatures have gone down from the 80s to the 60s-70s during regular use, but it continues to overheat and shut down by itself when playing video or when left on for several hours.
As per a suggestion I read elsewhere, I also tried removing the battery, but with or without battery, the issue remains. Right now, I'm about to update the graphics card driver to the latest version 332.21 released some days ago and see if that makes any difference.
Some of you mentioned using a program to control the fan, would using that make any difference in my case? The fan seems to be working the entire time.
Would getting a cooling pad help? If so, which cooling pads do you recommend?
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Welcome to the NBR forum, SineDie!
First of all, thank you for your information. Second, for your assistance I have some questions:
1. Have you disassembled it completely, as is written in 5739G service manual?
2. Have you cleaned using alcohol all old thermal paste from CPU, GPU and Heatsink?
3. Did you bend the Heatsink?
4. Do you have thermal pads on the Heatsink, where GPu is located? IF yes, arn`t they damaged?
5. How you applied new thermal paste? It has to be applied as a very thin layer.
6. Have you cleaned the heatsink`s radiator? If there is dust, than no airflow will be present in cooling system, as a result overheating can be.
About cooling pad - I`m using this model of Zalman cooling pads..
The program to control fan speed tables - AcFanControl. Here is a little guide. In addition, to cool the CPU, it can be undervolted using RMClock or ThrottleStop. -
Thanks for the welcome, propolkin.
After updating my graphics card to the latest driver, I tested my computer again, and it looks like it's the GPU's overheating that causes the shutdown. The CPU goes into 70s-80s, but the GPU goes up to 98 or so until it eventually goes over the edge and causes the shutdown. Now, to answer your questions:
1. No, I didn't. I don't have the 5739G service manual.
2. I cleaned all of the old thermal paste from the CPU, GPU and Heatsink. For my first try, I used 91% alcohol. For the 2nd try, I used the Arctic Cleaner kit.
3. I bent it slightly (for applying the thermal paste without having to disassemble the whole thing), like this person: http://blog.drale.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/IMG_0757-Medium.jpg
4. I do have thermal pads on the GPU area of the Heatsink, but I'm not sure what you mean by "damaged" -- They looked OK to me, a bit like the ones shown here: http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6551/p1080957g.jpg
5. Yes, I applied new thermal paste, and I did make sure it was a very thin layer (by using a plastic card to spread it thin as much as I could). Specially the second time around.
6. No, I didn't clean the heatsink's radiator. In order to do that, I'd have to disassemble the laptop completely, right?
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So, SineDie, you`ve made some mistakes, that is made by almost every laptop user - you have not searched for service manual. Here you go - 5739G service manual.
1. For proper cleaning and thermal paste appli]ying you should first read it. The laptop should be fully disassambled.
2. As always - for cleaning old thermal paste use Alcohol. Thus, this step was realized as intended.
3. Due to specific structure of heatsink, it must NOT be bended - the cooling capabilities can be strongly decreased if it is bended. I recommend you to order new heatsink module.
4. As I can see in the picture you provided, the thermal pads are not damaged. Talking about damaged thermal pads I mean, for instance, they are scrapped or some parts of them are one the video cards RAM chips.
5. At this step you although have done everything as intended. Using any CPU and GT240M, the thermal paste layer has to be as thinner, as possible. For instance, if you have M4000 GPU or 6770M, the thermal paste layer should be not so thin, as with GT240M, due to smaller GPU chip.
6. So, you should disassamble laptop fully and clean very well heatsink`s radiator.
Another helpfull links for AcFanControl:
1. Link
2. Link - 5739G .ini. i can`t tell, if this .ini will work with your`s 5739G, I can`t test it because I`ve different parts installed in my laptop. But it is worth to give it a try. -
Still for a permanent placement (and also for complete cleaning of the rills at the end of the fan) I would still recommend to take the laptop apart
also you dont "bend" (and thus destroy) the heatsink this way. it just easily lifts up that bit because the CPU heatpipe and the rest of the heatsink is only held by a little duct-tape-like thing on the end. so this is actually an okay-to-do method
still I think theres something wrong. these temps are definetely not normal. Maybe one of your heatpipes is not working correcty anymore. If you take the laptop apart you can disassemble the heatpipes from each other and from the fan and after cleaning them you can test them: hold them with your fingers where the CPU/GPU die goes normally and dip the end with the rills into some boiling/hot water. you should almost instantly feel the heat on the side you are holding them. not after maybe 30s, but like in a matter of only some seconds! then you know its working
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As you said, bernida, for permanent replacement the notebook should be disassambled. As you remember, on that thread are some users, that using bending method decreased heatsink`s capabilities to cool the parts. For me, for instance, it is more safely to disassamble the laptop.
About lifting it up little. As you can see on the screenshot SineDie provided - heatsink is really bended, not just lifted up.
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Hey guys. It's been a long time since I last posted something or read through all of the pages here. I was wondering if anyone ever got a quad core part to work. I was also wondering if there was a way to change out the display to a 1080p display. Thanks in advance for your replies.
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About quads, as I know, our 5739G`s chipset version does not support quads. tunay have tried to install QX9300, but it was not working with his 5739G. But, you should give it a try, if you have extra money for such test.)) I can tell you that quads can be workable in our notebook, in theory, after pin-mods and BIOS modding, but, with only two cores. Maybe you have motherboard with latest PM45 version, than, quads should work.
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Hey guys,
I'm new here, but I'm following this thread for some time, but I didn't have nothing to add more.
But today I've changed my default T6600 for P9700. I asked in Acer support but they couldn't help me find the answer is that possible to put this cpu in. Some people asked is that possible - yes, it is. And it's working great! Mostly because laptop is now quite (lower TDP). -
Yeah, ACER support is not so good, as it should be. I asked them some question some time before about pm45 versions in 5739G, they couldn`t give me any useful information. By the way, P9700 is very good CPU with very low TDP. -
Hey,
Can someone help me...?
I'd like to buy a 5650m (cause in my county there isn't too much choice). I read about rom/romless versions...
I'm guessing that this one is allright?
http://img20.allegroimg.pl/photos/oryginal/39/25/21/52/3925215281
Would I have any problems with drivers etc.?
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Hmm... so maybe I'll tak that risk if I have posibility to lower price (for now it's about 40$ for this card - still better than buy a new laptop
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I hope you can get that 5650m to work. I bought one and it didn't work.
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I only know that - card was pulled from some model of HP Touchsmart
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Ok so sorry about that! That was actually one of my questions as new person anyway lol ^
So, I've lived most of my life gaming on lowest setting.
And I refuse to give up on this laptop, its the first "High priced" item I bought as a kid lol.
So googling graphics card upgrades brought me to page 50, and I cant believe I finally made it to the end. Learned a lot.
So the plan is:
Intel T9900 since its produces less heat
ATI 6770m easier to come by.
8gigs of RAM
Cooling mods will just be taking everything apart, and cleaning it up, and under-volting the CPU since it cant be overclocked.
So my question is, these two 6770m:
ATI 216 0810001 HD 6770M GDDR5 1GB MXM III Type A Laptop Video Card | eBay
HP Dell Alienware Lenovo Acer Gateway ATI Radeon HD 6770M 1GB MXM 3 0A GPU Card | eBay
They're both ROMless according to the pictures right?
I want to do this as easily as possible, but if I have to mod the BIOS I guess I'll have to! lol
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Hello, cossh014!
Yeah, Both of them are ROMless, you have to integrate vBIOS in sBIOS or make a soldering mod. About processor - good choice!You should buy this, or another SLGEE version!
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Dang! The ROMed ones are atleast triple the price...
How involved is it to intergrate vBIOS in sBIOS? I know this might be scary me asking but I'd probably have my brother in law do it for me, he enjoys that stuff.
Or anyone selling a ROMed 6770m? PM ME!
And thanks for the link to the SLGEE, I saw that you said it runs cooler earlier so I'll be looking for those exclusively, thank you propolkins! -
About 6770M with ROM chip. Ask Meaker, maybe he still has this card. In addition, don`t froget about M5950 - that is professional version of 6770M. Also you should search version with ROM chip soldered. Professional version will run in games slightly poorly due professional drivers, but in professional software, such CAD or 3DsMax it will run better.
6770M and M5950 from ebay and aliexpress (ebay recommended for safety reasons):
1. 6770M Link
2. 6770M Link
3. 6770M Link
4. M5950 Link
5. M5950 Link
6. M5950 Link
7. M5950 Link
Don`t forget about special X-mounting bracket, that is installed on some 6770M and M5950. It has to be removed with very caution, when card is bought. In addition, if you are interested in real performance, I recommend you M4000 or even M5100.
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HEY! Thanks for the guide! It seems so much more do able with the guide.
I didnt know that about the m5950, but I do mostly gaming and I think the 6770m is cheaper and probably a better move for me, so thank you for the links!
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Interesting thread. No I understand, why in GPU-Z my card is shown as 7700M-series card, not as M4000. It seems, that my card already has 7770M vBIOS. That means, that you can optimize your professional card for gaming or for CAD drawing!
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Just put my 7770m in my 5739g. Wow it is hot. I have now placed a copper plate in. And the temps are more normal. I highly recommend this mod to anyone with a 7770m/M4000 in the 5739g. Just be careful to not over tighten the screw as you'll warp the board. Still love this laptop.
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Bought it a while back from the USA. I was one of the lucky ones to get it very cheap. It is the pr80c part number. I had it in a 5935g but I have since become tired of it.
But really needs the copper to conduct the heat away correctly.
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Just applied larger amount of thermal paste. My max temps are 80C, playing crysis 3. If my CPU would be cooler, than I should get less temperatures on GPU too. Still thinking of buying X9100 E0 or T9900 E0.
After using this laptop since 2009, I`m thinking about buying "new" one - 8940G or 7738G. Both of them are able to work with Quad processor, 8940G - core i7, 7738G - QX9300 or Q9200 and both has MXM III - A slot. Damn, that it so bad, that our laptop is not able to work with Quads. If it would, than I would not bother about buying a new one for additional 2-3 years, because I`m very satisfied with it.
That is really stupid, that Acers don`t produce new laptops with MXM III - A/B slots. Thay have power-laptops with even GTX760M integrated. As Asus, so Acers are running on the road of ultra-thin-damn-laptops. :/triturbo and grimreaper3320 like this. -
It is a M4000 but with a 7770m BIOS I believe. So I'm not sure if there is any difference.
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But, for different purposes it can be flashed to M4000 BIOS. And than original drivers will work. I saw how people 6970M convert to professional card by flashing it BIOS from professional version.
Don`t remember the model, in techinferno there is a thread about it.
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Hello fellas !
Currently i owned a fantastic aspire 5739g with ATI HD 4570 for 4 years, i love it so much i just cant stand the though of changing it for something else. Ok heres the thing, Im going to upgrade it for better speed and gaming performance.
1/ As for CPU Im going for T9600 coz I found it with a freaking good price. Just one question though, how big of the different gap performance between 9600/700/800/900 ? I saw this and I can see the figures but have no idea how big of the impact they are gonna give. Oh and im not going to OC so I dont really care about X9100, unless I find one with good price though.
2/ As for VGA, here are the nominees (1 is first priority and decreasing):
1.M5950
2.6770M
3. M4000
Dont get me wrong I do want a M4000 but the price is holding me back.
Please give your opinions about these bad boys :
HP EliteBook 8760w AMD FirePro M5950 1GB Graphics Card 109 C29841 00 647659 001 | eBay
EliteBook 8760w AMD FirePro M5950 1GB Graphics Video Card 647659 001 216 0810001 | eBay
Any other options available other than the above please feel free to let them all out. If you know where to get them with good prices please do tell me also.
My question is would all of the options go well with the stock T6600 and T9600/700/800/900 without any probs including bottleneck ? Oh and how do you recognize a bottleneck situation btw ?
3/ When you put on your new parts did you have to mod anything (fan, heatsink, bios ) to get them work properly and also prevent overheat probs ?
4/ 5739g is a pretty quiet machine, but when Im on video calls with skype the fan just goes full speed and its very noisy. Any suggestion on fixing that ?
Any help on those questions would be greatly appreciated guys, i thank you all very much.
Great day, long live 5739g !
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Hello, grimreaper3320!
Considering you questions the situation is as follows:
1. CPU. If you are as bothered with price, as with performance, than you should search for P9700. Advantage of this CPU is its TDP - 28W. It is very cool and with good performance processor. If you still want to spend less than 100$ for CPU, than here you are - T9600. It has 35W TDP. Yes, our heatsink is designed for such CPU`s, but it is better to have 28W TDP CPU for less heating, if you have overheating problems, as I can see. And if you are interested in maximum performance, that our notebook can produce - search for X9100 E0 stepping. But yes, this is expensive CPU and really hot - 45W TDP.
2. Why you are aiming for M5950? It is based on 6770M structure. M5950 is professional version of 6770M and is designed for using with professional CAD, graphic software. It has professional drivers, that gives better performance in professional software, but has reduced a little performance in games. Best choice - M4000, or, if you can find, 7770M. That is price=quality. And the most powerful card available now - M5100 or 8880M. But they now are very rare and extremely. In addition, they has 51W TDP, that is too much for standard cooling system of our notebook - it has to by strongly modified.
Considering those M5950, that you have shown - thay are ROMless. That means, that for make them working in 5739G you have to do soldering mod, or integrate vBIOS in sBIOS.
3. Firstly, you have to flash sBIOS to last version. Than, depending on CPU. If it is hot (45W), than you should undervolt the CPU using RMClock or ThrottleStop utilities. In addition, you can use fan control utility, such as AcFanControl.
4. Clean the cooling system (radiator also has to be cleaned by compressed air or powerful vacuumcleaner) and apply new thermal paste, for example, Arctic Silver 5.
Parts are botlenecking each other - one part of the computer is not so powerful, as other. For instance - you have GTX TITAN and old Celeron Duo. CPu is botlenecking GPU. In games you will see not so good performance as you expected.grimreaper3320 likes this.
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