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    Official Acer Aspire 5739G Owner's Lounge

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by tuηay, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. Avora

    Avora Notebook Consultant

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    You've increased the amount of copper, so see lower temperatures, however you've got no increased airflow. You shouldn't see a real world effect once everything is fully saturated. I've just picked up and installed a new tiny fan above my south bridge (which appears to get hot) the new fan is a side exhaust fan with a metal housing. I have it set up so it blows straight on to the CPU, which with your added heatsinks would help the temperatures reduce more.

    But, I have more involved plans under way to add heatpipes and more fins, bigger fan etc So hopefully I will soon be able to share the 5739G extreme cooling mods. One thing is for sure, we don't have much space in this laptop. I hope when I am done my X9100 will be able to run overclocked with the M4000 overclocked too. Then I will have a fan controller to quieten the beast, and I will be finished.
     
  2. andy.pc.2013

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    can i inbox you some how please ??
    would love to have a real chat with you about this 5739g lol
    and i have not finished as yet also i uploaded more photos on the app but they not showing on the page but they are on the app,
    i have also made some small holes were the fan is say so air can get in better now. also would love to see the fan that you have put in it, nice job pal,
    also i have just sold my 5920g so planning on buying a T9800 now, but i have a T8300 now is it worth it ?

    also i have soldered all new usb ports to the moutherboard and the card reader and got new keyboard for it as when i brought it i have £30 in none working and in a very bad way to the point it in the grave but now its all 100% and got a new life now :) and will be very loved look forward to lots more upgrade's soon

    all ready replaced battery, cpu t8300, 8gb 800mhz ddr3 and hybrid hhd 750gb, all usb ports and power jack
     
  3. propolkin

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    Better buy T9800. You`ll see performance increase with it. T8300 can be a bottleneck for M4000, for example. Drilling holes on the side of the fan will give you nothing in term of temperature decrease - the circulation of the air is violated. If you really want to increase temperature by means of air flow - remove the cover and place laptop on the cooler pad. Or, as avora and I have made - place new fan on the north bridge and mod it, so the air will flow not just on north bridge, but make it circulate from the ram modules through cpu to main fan. That`s how by default the air is circulating in our notebooks.

    About performance - if you want to gain maximum performance from this laptop - install X9100 E0, M4000. Than apply copper mod for GPU, use best thermal pads and thermal paste, make heatsink mod, about which avora is talking about. And than overclock CPU and GPU. And install SSD for OS. That have been told lot of times in this thread. :) That`s the way how to squeeze maximum performance from this laptop in my opinion.
     
  4. Avora

    Avora Notebook Consultant

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    I've finally got my wild X9100 under control. I wish it would run with as low voltage as Propolkins. Stuck at 1.1375V at standard clocks. This is just with a new standard cooler and 100% fan whilst I cook my other mods up.

    I've also discovered that thermal pads work better than copper for the (aluminium?) GPU mount to the heatpipe. Guess there is just too many gaps. I have decided I will look for some better pads. Fujipoly seems to have the best, getting them seems either silly money or plain tough to get a hold of.

    In other news, my persistent motherboard fault, causing my fan to pulse at really high temps when AcFanControl trips to BIOS control, is going to be bypassed. A simple latching button hidden in the modem port, because nobody needs modems anymore right? It will put a break in the white fan control wire giving me full power on demand, kind of like gaming laptops do. I'll call it the turbo fan button. I might even get to use my 3D printer for something useful and print a mount and cap for the button.
     
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  5. propolkin

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    Cool, fan turbo mod. :D Sounds great. ))) I recommend you to stay on 1.1375 because on my voltage I rarely have BSODs due to insufficient voltage on the cores. It is rare thing, as I said, but it is really annoying some times.

    About pads - I`ve tested pads from other manufacturers and can tell you, that Fujipoly pads are the best on the market. I still have never seen something better. Except those, that are used in military electronics. :D
     
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    nio13 Newbie

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    can anyone tell me where can i find 12 volts dc in the laptop?
     
  7. andy.pc.2013

    andy.pc.2013 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi all just to let you know I have brought a T9900 and have fitted it now. What a impressive cpu and nice upgrade from a T8300 would like to say a big thank you to you all A++ can any help me under volt it and overclock it please got it running 24/7 at 12x with the throttle stop and and got voltage to 1.1500v can any 1 help me push it to 10% or little more it's running a a 4% overclock at the min with throttle stop at 12× thanks all
     
  8. nio13

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    hello to everyone! i wanted to ask if i update my bios the ram module i bought that are kingston DDR3-1600mhz (PC3-12800) 4gb will be recognized?because now in stock bios doesnt work.
     
  9. propolkin

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    No, it will not. It depends on the north bridge. Our north bridge can work with RAM FSB 1066MH. Those, which are 1333 MHz will be downclocked automatically to 1066 MHz. Anything higher that 1333 MHz will not work in our laptops.
     
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  10. andy.pc.2013

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    feel like thowing this laptop at the min been trying to oc this cpu for 3hrs now all i keep getting is blue screen what am i doing wrong people i have the t9900 now
     
  11. Avora

    Avora Notebook Consultant

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    The T9900 is a locked multiplier cpu. Throttle stop won't over clock it. You have to do another mod (can't quite remember, might be in the first page), which when I tried would push things too far. The X9100 is the cpu you need for overclocking.
     
  12. andy.pc.2013

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    ok will try and find the mod now lol i have tryed setfsb pll too
     
  13. Avora

    Avora Notebook Consultant

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    That was it, likely it's going too far. The cpu can't get enough voltage. Setfsb for me would jump only one step and be way high.
     
  14. andy.pc.2013

    andy.pc.2013 Notebook Enthusiast

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    tuηay has done it on page 26 comment 257 ?
     
  15. Avora

    Avora Notebook Consultant

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    Must have been a miracle or wizardry. But I couldn't find the way. You can get a x9100 cheap enough it isn't worth the effort. Very unstable overclocking method. You bring the temp down similar to the T9900 with an undervolt.
     
  16. andy.pc.2013

    andy.pc.2013 Notebook Enthusiast

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    dang i just brought this t9900 :( oh well maybe one day i will get the x9100
     
  17. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Actually it's not impossible. It's quite in line with what I got out of my X9100 E0:

    Code:
    (4,0) 20x 1,4500
    (3,8) 19x 1,3500
    (3,6) 18x 1,2750
    (3,4) 17x 1,2125
    (3,2) 16x 1,1500
    (3,0) 15x 1,0875
    (2,8) 14x 1,0500
    (2,6) 13x 1,0125
    T9900 is rated 1~1.25v, and he has E0, so that makes it just barely "legal" (stable) @3.5GHz @1.25v (you can see that I'm making 3.4@1,2125 and 3,6@1,2750) and he said that GTA IV crashes from time to time. If it was C0, I would've called it impossible on the spot :)
     
  18. andy.pc.2013

    andy.pc.2013 Notebook Enthusiast

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    i have a t9900 E0 :) just dont know what to do next with throttle stop i have set to 10.5x and tryed setfsb i must be missing some thing dose any know any steps i could try please willing to give it a try lol thanks all
     
  19. andy.pc.2013

    andy.pc.2013 Notebook Enthusiast

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    for got to add i have 2x4gb of samsung M471B5273DH0-CK0

    cpu-z is saying they are running @ 532.0mhz fsb1:2 7-7-7-19 is there away to change this please if so how ??
     
  20. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Typhoon burner, which is paid, or SPDTool, which is really old and I'm not sure if it supports your chipset (PM45).
     
  21. andy.pc.2013

    andy.pc.2013 Notebook Enthusiast

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    just a quick one people can i put any 6770 ?
     
  22. propolkin

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    Finally I want to buy SSD with 64Gb capacity, or 120Gb. Can someone recommend my a HDD case in optical bay and SSD? I asked this question before, I know, but maybe there are new SSD`s on the market? Main aim - to incrise data transfer speed and reducing OS loading time plus not so much spending of money.
     
  23. Avora

    Avora Notebook Consultant

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    Kingston V300 120GB is cheap and a strong performer. Don't go smaller than 120GB, you'll struggle for space. Any cheap sata optical to sata hdd Bay will do. Just make sure it is a sata and not pata.

    You'll notice a huge difference I suspect.
     
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    Thank`s again, Avora! ;)
     
  25. andy.pc.2013

    andy.pc.2013 Notebook Enthusiast

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    got a acer 7739G with quad core qx9300 and i mite do the gpu mod on it dose any know of any rooms i can read about the mod on the 7739G thanks
     
  26. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    You can desolder few things, move them away and make room for MXM-B :) Maker did it here, after seeing someone doing it over YouTube.
     
  27. andy.pc.2013

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    fit a GTX260 by desoldering the two capacitors and inductors blocking an MXM-B card and moving them out of the way using wires. now this is somthing i could do very easy going shopping now :p also dose any one know what gage wire is best to use thanks
     
  28. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Thick ones for sure. As for the GPU - you'll make it MXM-B friendly and you'll put 260m? Really?! There are far better and far more efficient options. Hell, even if you stick to 6770m, it would be better.
     
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    Ilinho Newbie

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    Hello everybody!

    Before upgrading my old Acer Aspire 5739g I have read many topics and advices about how to do it. As I have understood, my chipset can handle up to 8Gb RAM (2x4 Gb os-DIMM modules). I have bought 2 Corsair cmsa4gx3m1a1066c7 modules DDR3 1066Mhz, PC3-8500 isntead of defualt 2x 2 Gb. The problem is that my compute does not recognize it. My BIOS version is V1.3311. Could you give me some tips on how to make my system work?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Actually it works even with 4 Gb+ 2 Gb. Something is wrong with 4+4 only..
     
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    I found out that my lower memory slot does not work with 4 Gb. It recognizes only 2 Gb module. So is there any hardware problem with the slot?
     
  32. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Have you tried the same module you've put in the upper slot?
     
  33. Ilinho

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    Thanks for reply!
    Yes. Futhermore both 4 Gb modules work in the upper slot and fail to work in the lower one. My system aslo works normally with only one 4 Gb module in the upper slot. So there is something wrong with the lower slot I think. But it works with 2Gb modules. Ma be there is not enough power on it? what tests can be performed to check the lower slot?
     
  34. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    More likely addressing issue. You have listed your BIOS, but I don't have the machine and don't know if it's the latest. If it's not - update, if the problem is still there - hardware issue. Have you tried to reinstall Windows?
     
  35. Ilinho

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    It is the latest bios provided by acer so far. I took it from the acer web site. And windows is not an issue ( I have reinstalled it couple of times so far). With any of the 4gb modules in the lower slot the bios does not even load. I have just a black screen with nothing to do. It is strange the lower slot works with 2gb but does not with 4. Wierd.
     
  36. Ilinho

    Ilinho Newbie

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    And I have begun to get BSODs. Here is the screenshot image.jpg
     
  37. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    If the RAM modules are OK, your MoBo is failing. I'm not 100% sure, but that's my guess. The only way to test the modules is in another machine.
     
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    I have run the memtest86 and I have a lot of failing adress errors. (more than 6000). Then I have removed the 4Gb module and ran the test again. Waiting for results.
     
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    Well. I have checked ach module in each slot separetely and 2x2gb together. No errors appear with 2 gb modules no matter in which clot I place them. On the other hand there are thousand of errors with 4 gb modules in upper slot and they dont even work in the lower one. I will try to test them in the other machine. But I still do not understand the source of the problem...(
     
  40. Sanek1982

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    Where did you get BIOS V1.311? I think I found it once on international acer website and almost bricked my laptop since I think it's designed for either 5739 or similar model, US website lists V0.3310 as the latest one (here's link: Acer | Download Drivers and Manuals | Acer Official Site) I have it on mine and it works like a charm with no issues. It terms of memory not recognized it might be a problem with a memory sticks not being compatible with the 5739G, I use G.Skill 10666 and it works like a charm in 2x4GB configuration, I also used Kingston Hyper X 2x4GB configuration before and it worked great as well.
    Are you using original power brick (90W) or a lower wattage one? It sounds like your ram might not be getting enough power and if you try it in another laptop and it doesn't produce BSOD it might be the case. I had similar problems with crucial memory in few desktop builds but there you can adjust it in the BIOS. I tested my laptop with watt o meter and with M5950 or M4000 it takes between 30-70W of power while running and that's with a SSD hard drive and no DVD rom usage (with regular HD and drive running I'm sure it would be higher numbers that's why I was even thinking of getting 120W power brick to have some reserve at least.
    P.S. With Nvidia GT 240M it was by at least 20W less consumption which makes sense since the card is not that powerful.
     
  41. propolkin

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    One of your 4Gb module is dead. You``ve tested it in different slots, you`ve tested it with memtest86. All of this tests says it to you. Especially if 2x2Gb are working as intended.
     
  42. Ilinho

    Ilinho Newbie

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    Thank you guys for your replies! I think I have finally found the cause of my problem. I have also teste my 4 gb modules in other machines ( dell and hp) and it worked just fine there. Then I took 4 gb modules from a diffirent supplier and they worked just fine in my acer 5739. I guess there is some sort of incompatibility of Corsair memory with my system. Aspire 5739g works fine even with 1333Mhz ram. problem solved=)

    PS: as for the latest BIOS, I took it here: Acer | Драйверы и руководства пользователя | Официальный сайт Acer
     
  43. andy.pc.2013

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    well my acer aspire 5739G is now sat doing nothing, as my new acer aspire 7738G has now come, swaped memory over and my t9900 untill payday then thinking of moving to quad core, dose any one know if there is a acer aspire 7738G owner's lounge please,
     
  44. propolkin

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    Here you go, andy. This is 7738G club. :)))

    7738G is a great machine with good upgrade opportunities. If you laptop had Q9000 by a default, than you can put QX9300. And after some modifications of the motherboard, the MXMIII-B cards can be installed.
     
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    Service manual if anybody needs http://tim.id.au/laptops/acer/aspire%205739%205739g.pdf

    There is a thermal pad on the heatsink over the CPU with a rectangle hole for grease, I polished it off.

    If you are trying to clean the fan, you have to reapply thermal compound to the CPU/GPU and take the whole fan / heatpipe out.

    Don't forget to take both sides of the plastic off the Fujipoly / ModRight Extreme System Builder Thermal Pad Blister Pack - 60 x 50 x 1.0 - Thermal Conductivity 11.0 W/mK - FrozenCPU.com headpads like me =D. One side much thicker than the other.

    After cleaning my fan, taking plastic off my heatpad, and polishing off the weird heatpad over CPU with rectangle hole in it, I no longer have to undervolt at all with throttle stop. I have a T9600 and a Firepro 4000.

    The max temp I've seen on my CPU is 60 C and GPU 75 C. I ordered .5mm Copper Shim just incase =D.
     
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    Can you post the photos? I don`t get about which plastick pads you are talking about. :)))
     
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    Well there was two things I messed up. On the fujipoly heatpads for my VRAM I forgot to take the plastic off one side haha. A novice mistake :)

    Another thing I noticed, in the service manual on page 61 it talks about removing the CPU from the bottom " Clean the thermal pad off of the heat sink"

    But then on page 84 it says "reuse the original thermal protection pad" when it talks about removing CPU after motherboard is taken out.

    I was confused by this; at first I left it on. I don't think I could fully clean it without taking the motherboard out. With the fan/heatpipe out, I polished the weird CPU heatpad off while also cleaning my fan. I no longer had to use throttle stop for my T9600. My Average temp dropped from 70 to 40 for my CPU :)

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    My graphics card is another story. I am having trouble with heat on it. When I play a game, it goes from 300/150 Clock rate to 675 / 1000, shoots up to 105 C then gets stuck back at 300/150. I ordered a 15x15x.5mm copper shim from amazon, will update after. I tried using afterburner to force it to 400 / 200 MHZ but still seems hot. Maybe I didn't use enough thermal glue.
     
  48. bernida

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    i think with thermal pads they mean the pads from the gpu memory cooler. thats the only thing that would make sense.

    what you mean by "pad" on the cpu cooler is just some old and extremely dried out (=hard) thermal paste from the stock assembly, its easy to clean with some isopropyl alcohol or something alike ;)
     
  49. propolkin

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    After I noticed, that my fan now has "flying" rotations per minute, yesterday I`ve ordered new 5739G fan with green label. After some hours I realized, that I`ve made a mistake. I should`ve ordered the fan not for 5739G, but for MSI, as one of the users suggested. Well, let`s see what this new fan is capable to do with cooling. If it will not satisfy me by its productivity, that I`ll buy a fan from MSI.

    And, damn, I`ve lost my thermal paste. =/

    About polishing copper squares of the CPU and GPu heatsinks, It is well - known method to reduce overall temperature of the system - the contact of thermal paste and CPU/GPU becomes better.
     
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  50. Avora

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    Don't expect much with polishing, sure it will help. But doubt it will translate to lower temps, any lower temps may also be down to new paste or better application. Too many factors to count it as the only thing to bring the temps down.

    But every little helps. I noticed huge differences with a new heatsink and new fan.
     
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