Official Acer Aspire 5739G Owner's Lounge

@grimreaper3320 basically, yes you are. (= Return the modules if possible; resell them otherwise. They wouldn't make any noticeable performance difference even if they did work, pretty much useless unless you have iGPU - so I'd suggest simply getting the cheapest low-density modules instead.

 

Hi everyone.
I used my 5739g since 2009 and i wanted to upgrade it than i bought samsung 850 evo 250gb ssd. I install it to hdd slot. But i couldnt see my ssd in bios. My bios ver. is 3311. How can i fix it please help me. Cuz I paid much money to ssd.

 

Try enabling AHCI mode in bios settings like in this photo.

 

Thanks vyga i tried it and didnt work. My ssd working in another pc.
Did you ever try ssd on your 5739g ?

 

Yea, got samsung evo 850 inside this laptop too, only it's 500 GB. It's working fine for me. Tho when i instaled it, at first I put it into CD-rom place with adapter, can't recall by now what it was but it didn't poped up instantly in system. If i remember well it was visible after I cloned my OS from hdd to ssd with some toll.

 

Thanks for your support. Maybe i can try it but i need an adapter for cdrom.
And what is your bios version can you write it please.

 

Bios is v0.3310

 

Thanks for all.

 

Hello!
Havent been in this thread for almost 2 years

Having a small problem here, how do you activate the bass tuba on Windows 10 x64?
Have tried a bunch of drivers but non of them seems to work, the latest was the one from acers homepage i think, Realtek 6.0.1.5932 W7x64..

Really thinks that the tuba makes a big difference.

 

Mine works with 6.0.1.6482 tho i am on W7x64

 

Aha, do you know where i can find them?

And im thinking of buying a new gpu, have the GT240M, bought the ATi 6770m 2 years ago but it was whitout the bios and i never got around to fix it.

Is it safe to buy a m4000 and it will work right away? Or is it the same here with the colored pcb and stuff?

Thinking of buying this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272203576671?redirect=mobile

Can i install it without having to implement the gpu bios in the big bios?

 

google is your friend, like here? http://www.hwdrivers.com/dl/2/005872/d_nbook/v_Asus/m_K53TK

About gpu, I got no experience on that one, still going with same gt240m. But as much as ppl talked in this thread about gpus i understood that m4000 from dell works but you need to use other gpu drivers (7770 ones?) for it. Try searching older posts here maybe you can find info you need.

 

Heh yeah you're right, but i didn't find any that was made specially made for the 5739g and thought that was a must.
But thanks for the googling!

Hm i guess i'll wait for someone to confirm that and do some searching in the thread, don't want to have another card just lying around here.

Thanks for the help Vyga

Helo me again

About to order a M4000 this time, since i never did a bios integration whit my 6670 i bougt 2 years ago ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/official-acer-aspire-5739g-owners-lounge.588074/page-151 )

Is it safe to order this one now? so its just plug and play basically.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272203576671?redirect=mobile&clk_rvr_id=1043328995567&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true

 

@zibbit you should ask @propolkin, he knows everything about 5739G and upgrading it.

 

This card is plug-n-play. You only should install drivers for 7770M.

 

Hi vyga and everyone. I bought and install cdrom adapter and its worked. i can use my ssd now. thanks again...

 

Here i am again, as i was reading old posts i seen that some ppl done quite cool (hehe) cooling mods. So I tried and done one too. Results came out to be, I think ,pretty decent, CPU gone from low 90C with occasional shut downs to high 70C- pretty much stable at 78C and time to time having spikes up to 80C. All this measured by MSI afterburner while gaming (BnS for 3-5h) and also with synthetic test (not together with a game) CPU-Z stress + Heaven Benchmark 4.0 (15~ min). Room temp at testing times was between 23-26C.

1st thing and ofc the easiest ThrottleStop with undervolting from 1,25 V to 1,0875 V which completely removed occasional shut downs and brought down CPU temps to 85-86C at it's peaks.

2nd thing was simple aluminum plate with thermal pads for GPU memory chips but since i have no idea how much it helps in C i can only assume it does, since plate becomes really hot.
It's about 1,2 mm thickness, bolted it down with 2 longer 6mm screws which I took from same laptop cover and in their place put the short ones that originally held GPU. To prevent aluminum plate from any contact with GPU I cut out holes in plastic sheet which was originally covering GPU, in places where memory chips are. Also, I put in 2 rubber gaskets about 2-3 mm thickness where the 2 screws are. All in all it holds down plate very firmly and pressing thermal pads to chips very well. Thinking of making slightly bigger plate which would go over the ram sticks and a bit over south bridge since this one holds so tight and bigger one shouldn't be a problem.

Spoiler: GPU plate

3rd thingie Was extra heat sink for CPU which also provides better contact with heat pipe. 5739g got very uneven surface on CPU heat sink and straight plate wouldn't have much if any contact so i decided to try and cast aluminum in that shape to get better contact. Took me a while since i needed to learn/figure out how i can cast it, but in the end did it.

Spoiler: CPU heat sink

Casting came out pretty ruff but with some grinding and drilling it fitted on CPU heat sink. Tho it was far from being able to use thermal paste and I just decided to go with pads.

Spoiler: Pads placement

The pads like glued this aluminum chunk onto CPU heat sink and after more grinding so that plastic back cover just slightly bend over this aluminum chunk, it held in place very well with cover screwed down. To increase surface area and get better cooling results I cut heat-sink-like fins on top of that aluminum casting with metal saw blade, that ended up better than i expected. And the results of GPU and CPU heat sinks assembled looks like this now.

Spoiler: Heat sinks in place

4th, Finally, I added mini 5V fan (30x30x6) to blow of the heat from that new CPU heat sink and help for main fan to pump more air through out system. As I seen some1 here done something like that too but i didn't like the idea to power up mini fan from PCI slot since i would like to control its speed, so that it won't always run on max rmp and buzz like little mosquito. So I just took old 124 mb usb flash drive, devoured it, put in the thingie which controls volume from old not working headphones, soldered everything and here it is.

Spoiler: The mini fan

Even tho CPU temp hardly reach 80 C, main fan still was ramping up to the max time to time so after a bit of look around i noticed that north bridge still breaks 90C limit. So now i am thinking of some way to improve that thingie cooling.

 

Very nice Post @Vyga

About the northbridge temps (=THRM reading in HwMonitor; CAUTION only v1.28 will work, 1.29 doesnt display it anymore).
I am pretty sure they are not read out from the northbridge itself, instead maybe from a thermal diode or from a secondary diode on the CPU itself.
Heres why: I once replaced the Northbridge heatpad with a copper plate and put thermal paste in between. Nothing changed in Temperatures.
Unfortunately the shutdown and ACPI fan speed is based on this THRM reading (see below). Even though CPU and GPU are well <80°C, THRM often is >94 for me, Laptop will shut down at approx 96

I identified the Chip that is responsible for the THRM value. Its a G780-1, datasheet here: www.gmt.com.tw/product/datasheet/EDS-780.pdf

Heres a picture, the Chip is situated near CPU socket, between CPU and Northbridge/GPU

Spoiler

Its connected to the Laptops/Chipsets SMBus.

I shorted out the Data Pins on the top which will result in THRM staying the same for the time period. (Tested with prime95 -> shorted out -> THRM didnt change (but CPU values shot up) -> let loose of the shortening -> THRM went up and also fan started blowing more

I am not sure what devices are also connected to this SMBus so we better not mess with it.

If you compare with the datasheet you will find the mandatory capacitor and the wires go somewhere underneath the Socket.
Now heres the deal: At the moment I cannot open the laptop to see where these go.
Theres 2 Possibilities:
1) to a dedicated Diode somewhere underneath the CPU socket.
2) to Pins on the Socket itself and therefore to a dedicated diode IN the CPU

The problem is, that the THRM values are definetely false-high. Still I havent figured out how we can deal with it.
Shorting out the wires that measure the temp also doesnt work somehow.

I suggest the following:

a) either physically cut the wires on the motherboard, solder on a custom Diode which we can place anywhere we want. (Maybe near or on the CPU cooler)
b) mod the BIOS so the laptop wont shut off at 96C, unfortunately I dont know how to do this
edit: c) mod the BIOS and apply a different offset to THRM (if there exists a calibration/offset value in the first place)

maybe you guys can think of something.
This overheating problem is really annoying and the THRM/ACPI temperature is definetely measured way too high.

 

Hell yeah, 5739G still lives! My wi-fi card is dead, multimedia panel was dead, lives again, screen is dying, but still alive. And yet, it is an old beast. With scars, gray-haired, but still it is old good 5739G.

And even after so much years people still have an interest to it`s modifications. Guys, thank you very much for maintaining this thread! You are awesome!

 

Did anybody test a NVIDIA M1000M? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Nvidia...910573?hash=item3f6820a92d:g:pLYAAOSwbsBXomdA

 

did anyone here successfully integrated Dell 6770m vbios on our sbios??? tried it my self but bumped in a lot of problems :/ no luck until now. anyone with the complete bios file ready and working???

 

I`ve written before, that I`ve integrated 6770M and M4000 vbios into sBIOS, but I don`t have these currently.

Edited:

I`ve integrated for you 6770M vBIOS from DELL into 5739G`s v3311 sBIOS. Option .rom file for nVidia G105M is removed from this sBIOS. Instead a 6770M vBIOS is added. So G105M without ROM chip on the card will not work any more. Other cards, that use N10M-GE1 chip will not work too without ROM chip on board of the card.

See attached file in this message.

Use it at your own risk! I have no responsibility if something goes wrong! Make a CrysisDisk before flashing. Use only DOS method with USB drive for flashing. Read technical manual of 5739G in order to know how to use a CrysisDisk. How to creat and how to use a CrysisDisk you can read also at this forum (it is mandatory for your read these threads, related to sBIOS flashing). For example, when I was playing with M4000 from HP, I`ve also integrated vBIOS into sBIOS and after third attempt I`ve bricked my BIOS and only with ten`s attempt I`ve managed to recover my laptop. So, yeah, be carefull - you need to be sure at 100% of what your are doing, when you are flashing your sBIOS.

kontini, I think just as experiment it will be interesting to install M1000M into our laptop. But I think that cards from such generation will be botlenecked by CPU, even our X9100. It needs at least QX9300 overclocked in order to manage to fully load the card. But, maybe, only maybe, I`ll buy this card after some year. It has 2GB of GDDR5 onbard that is very usefull in modern games.

If it would be a version from DELL (the card you`ve provided a link is from HP) it should be a plug-n-play.

 

Damn, my laptop is so old at these days... The WLAN antena is not working anymore. I`ve installed different WiFi adapters, the systems can see them, but both doesn`t connect to WiFi... Again I have to put money into that dinosaur...

 

Hello guys. I am happy 5739G owner from many years. Not so far ago I have upgraded it with t9600 CPU, 8GB of 1066 RAM and SSD. Thanks to that it is still very nice laptop for daily use. Few days ago I have also replaced GT240M with Dell Quadro 1000M. After upgrade everything was working perfectly. Problem started two days ago, my wife left laptop hibernated, after turning on it showed screen with browser for 10 seconds and shut down. After this when I turn it on it flash all leds, spin fan but it looks like it does not boot at all and screen does not turn on at all. When I leave it like that for few minutes I can hear one beep and thats all. I took everyrhing apart and put together but it did not help, after that I have installed GT240M and with it laptop is working without any problem. After that I thought that my quadro 1000m is dead but to be sure I have installed it in my second laptop (7738) and it works like a charm so I put it once again to my 5739G and nothing, laptop does not boot and screen is black. Maybe somebody has an idea why it does not work anymore and how to fix it? I have tried clearing cmos aswell.

 

At one point I thought I killed my gt240m while I was changing pastes/pads but turns out one pin, NOT on card itself BUT in the connection for card in the laptop had hair in it. I can't recall laptop behavior while starting it, but at that point I was starting to look for new GPU as I had no other ways to test card but with 5739g... Thou, your case seems different as one card works and the one that doesn't work- worked previously, it still wouldn't hurt to try cleaning connections, making sure card sits well and see if maybe it helps.

 

Thanks for advice, I have just cleaned port, done a quick check if all pins are ok,and installe card one more time, but unfortunately still nothing, same issue. I have no idea it's not working ;/

 

Hello @propolkin , nice seeing you again. Can you help me solve my problem below ? I want to try everything i could before giving up on this kit. So please show me what i should do to make it work. Would flashing bios help ? What is the latest bios right now ?
Thank you a bunch mate.

 

Hello, grimreaper3320. I thing that nothing can be done in this case. As I know, not all RAM modules work in our laptops. Don`t know really on what it is depended. There are several models, that will work 100%. Such as Hynix or Kingston.

The BIOS flashing will not help as ability work with RAM modules is not related to bios. It is related to chipset, if I`m not mistaken.

 

hey propolkin, i have received my M4000 Video Card, install it in my laptop but i can't seems to trigger the GPU. I Install diffrenet drivers, but it dosent appear in Device manager, just Standard VGA Adapter.

Which drivers i should use to activate the GPU ? I'm confuse... (

 

Hello, filip_pine! Make a photo of your card, is it really from DELL? Try drivers for 7770M. Drivers for M4000 will not work.

 

hey mate, i just post in my thread here take a look and let me know what you think... i get it to work with HD7700M drivers

 

Yo, lately been trying to overclock my t9600 and noticed that there is no solid guide in one place how to do it, just some people mentioning that they done it somehow and it's really quite a struggle to figure out how.
So here it is, the whole recipe in one place and probably the best thing is that you don't need to mod/flash bios, however, I still gonna use this fraze- USE AT YOUR OWN RISK .
You will need:
1. MemSet (i used v4.1)
2. TrottleStop (i used v6)
3. SetFSB (i used v2.2.134.98)
You can google and download latest versions of these programs which probably will work too. Or use this "pack" https://goo.gl/k5m4KC .It's versions which worked on my acer.

Spoiler: more info 1

Believe it or not RAM clocks are one of the reasons why you can't overclock(OC) CPU just with SetFSB(i sweated my pants off till I realized that... ).

So first, using MemSet, depending on your RAM sticks, you will need to find point on which your laptop doesn't crash while no OC done yet. That point should be slightly higher numbers of latency as we gonna set higher FSB and higher FSB doesn't "like" low latency- thats why laptop crashes if we use just SetFSB to OC.
In my case latency went like this, from 7-7-7-19 to 10-8-8-23.

Spoiler: more info 2

I don't know if its because of my RAM sticks or because of MemSet version but the first number ( 10-8-8-23) after reboot always set latency to 10 even tho i would like to try setting it at 8. Anyway, as long as laptop doesn't crash we are good...Settings in program, in my case looks like this

Spoiler: If laptop crashes non-stop READ THIS

If your laptop after trying out new RAM latency values crashed non-stop and you can't even revert values to original ones because laptop instantly crashes again and again, you will need to press F8 key while starting up laptop and boot into Safe Mode, when go to C:/Windows and find "MemSave" folder- delete it and start laptop normally. This happened to me too because for some reason my "Apply" button on MemSet doesn't work and I had to save new values every time which leads to that, that the new latency values are applied every time after windows starts up and if it's very unstable with these values- laptop instantly crashes.

Second, with TrottleStop at first you will need to set multiplier lower and later on try which value is stable for you. In my case it gone from 11 to 9.5 (atm).

Spoiler: my TS settings

Third, in SetFSB you will need to find PLL, for our laptop it's SLG8SP513V, click "Get FSB", set higher FSB with slider and click "Set FSB". In the end it will look like this.


All in all it might be that the only thing that limits this OC level and stability is how well you manage to set RAM settings. For now I am testing stability on settings I posted above and as for now things seems pretty stable despite few crashes if i restart laptop. So if some one with similar hardware(as in my signature) will find better RAM setting(maybe in "other timings" section on MemSet?) plz share it.

P.S. maybe some1 got MemSet v4 or v3.6 because v4.1 seem to have some issues and i can't find these older versions via google.

Spoiler: Edit1

Edit: Apparently you need to set "Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC)" (100 in my case) in MemSet and restart laptop. After that error with setting CL automatically to 10 in 10-8-8-23 after restarts gets fixed and "Apply" button starts working too, letting to set latencies to 7-8-8-23 tho still can't choose different value than 7 on CL. Also enabling SLFM(Super Low Frequency Mode) on throttlestop seems to help to lower temp a little. Testing on these settings now.

 

Hello guys once again...
First of all I have to say... I'm impressed that there are others that still work with this laptop and try to keep it into life... I thought I was the only one
I've been aching to throw it away and buy a new one for over a year now, but now I say.. F*ck it... Let it go with one last hurrah, so I bought yesterday an intel x9100 chip (cooling will be a headache but I've seen lots of you have made some supporting cooling mods, I'll have to take that road too I guess) waiting for it to be shipped... Now im searching to upgrade my gpu, for what I understand, amd m4000 is the way to go... Will this be plug and play? No bios changes will be needed?
Ps im running an nvidia 240
http://m.ebay.com/itm/NEW-For-DELL-...3D301840376324&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460

 

Yea this one should work with just PnP if photos are of same/identical card, still you will need drivers of 7770m as @propolkin mentioned many times.

Basically you look if card have bios chip or not (so far haven't seen that hp one would have chip and dell would not)

will work


won't work

 

Thank you very much for your reply mate. And as far as temperatures go, will this run hotter than gt240m??

 

Yea its hotter than gt240m (23W), for 4000m(33W) you will need to find a way to blow off these extra 10W. Maybe high quality thermal pads/paste, maybe a mod. Also x9100 will be hotter too and as our laptop uses the same vent for CPU and GPU it will get even more hotter. That's a lot of extra heat there and it will need some moding, undervolting to deal with it.

 

Hi,when replacing the video card on the M4000, you need a patch of copper? Between the GPU and the heat sink?

 

I think the most powerful video you can get is this one ( I know it's dell but forgot exact model number):

 

@carolloooo doubt it would be needed, also it would be bad to add extra layer beatwean heatsink and gpu chip as it would just increase thermal resistance and you would end up with even hotter chip. However, if gpu chip deosn't touch heatsink at all you can lift the heatsink by placing something thicker (like copper/alliuminium plate+thermal pad or few layers of thermal pads) under heatpipe like in this photo.


Tho it's still good idea to have some plates laying around as you can place them over ram modules on other gpu side like this to get some extra heat dissipation

Spoiler

@Sanek1982 this is FirePro M5100 and its about 50W on load which is more than double of heat compared to original GT240m which is 23W, I really doubt 5739g could handle this much extra heat even with mods.

 

With mods it would be able, but you really have to go out there.

It's W5170M, rebrand of M5100

 

its definitely sreanshot of m5100 stats, bios version number is identical of m5100, also clock rate matches perfectly while w5170m would have 925Mhz.

 

I have it currently in my 5739G and it's actually on par with M4000 as far as fan kicking in, when I play blu ray quality videos and as far as games I don't know since I don't play any high demand ones right now just flash based online stuff.
As far as heat the most hot running one was M5950 I think it was called (HD6670 equivalent). I went from GT240 -> M59xx ->M4000->M5100. I think because newer ones have much better power management so they keep things in check unless you overload them so if you're heavy gamer then no it's not good idea, same way as using 5739G for heavy games its Waaay underpowered as far as cooling for that. I have Dell M6600 workstation with M6100 video card which I haven't had time to set up as my main computer ( 5 months since I bought it LOL) that one has two big fans which can take care of the heat no problem (not mentioning 32GB ram as an option or RAID set up for SSD's).
I use [email protected] CPU though on my 5739g which is 27W rated I think instead of 35W like regular core 2 powerhorses so that helps little bit as well.

 

Try running Heaven benchmark (free) ( https://unigine.com/products/benchmarks/heaveng/), it gives good load on gpu. Tho you would need to run some stress test on CPU too (cpu-z (free) cpu stress( http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html) would be enough ) in pair with GPU test to see temps which you would get in gaming. Mine reaches same temps as in gaming after like 15-20 min of these 2 running together.
Would be really interesting to see what temps this gpu reach on 5739g if it would be used for demanding tasks.

 

Here's yet another cooling mod. As you all probably noticed fan in 5739g got really small gap to suck air in, like 3 mm high and 40mm wide with bottom cover in place. So lets double (at least) that with this simple yet effective mod. For mine acer temps dropped around 3-4C on CPU/GPU when compered with temps before this mod on same tasks. Also, fan now almost never spins on max rpm while previously it was spinning on max quite often.

So, the mod is to open up 2nd air intake hole on top of laptop. Don't worry it doesn't look ugly and is barely noticeable.

1. Firstly, while top cover (the one with touch keys) is still in place(so that it would not need extra hands to hold it) I removed plastic cover with lots of little holes (1st photo). To make it easier use hair dryer to preheat the cover and knife to help peel it off. Try to be careful and not to damage this cover as we still gonna need it.

Spoiler: 1st photo

2. After peeling off plastic cover you will see some cloth net underneath it- preheat it and peel. You don't need to be careful with this one as we throwing it off (2nd photo)

Spoiler: 2nd photo

3. Unscrew and remove top cover, clean off the remains of glue (I used window cleaner with alcohol) (3rd photo)

Spoiler: 3rd photo

4. Drill holes in top cover. You should drill from inside side so that you would see where pcb's are and would not drill into them(4th photo). You can drill into or slightly damage grounding foil, just don't cut it off completely. If you don't have drill you can heat up some sharp thing (scissors, knife, nail...) on gas cooktop and poke some holes, but it MIGHT slightly deform plastic and it won't look so good.

Spoiler: 4th photo

Sand off (use knife if don't have sand paper) the excess plastic on holes, if there is any, so that cover outside would be more or less smooth (5th photo)

Spoiler: 5th photo

5. Open up the way for air. This can be done in many ways. I heated up knife on gas cooktop and carefully cut off the unneeded plastic(6th photo with unneeded plastic) (7th photo with plastic cut off)

Spoiler: 6th photo

Spoiler: 7th photo

6. Glue back the plastic with lots of little holes which we removed in 1st step (10th photo). You can use glues or same as I did, thin double side sticky tape(8th photo,9th photo). Just don't cover up holes you just did and speaker holes.

Spoiler: 8th photo

Spoiler: 9th photo

Spoiler: 10th photo

7. Assemble everything. You can barely see that anything was done and if you are not owner of this laptop you even couldn't tell difference (11th photo). Yet it gives quite a good boost on cooling as fan can now take in like double amount of air than before.

Spoiler: 11th photo

 

hello, i am new at forum and i am looking for advices to upgrade my acer aspire 5739g.
Since the thread is quite big to search it, i would like to ask what do you suggest me for
cpu and gpu upgrade, currently i got the T6600 and the GT240
Is the x9100 and the ati m4000 the best working parts for upgrade? or there are more options?

 

you should get T9900 instead, same specs as X9100 but MUCH lower TDP. The thermal system is overloaded anyway, you may have to undervolt (search this thread, I did a few posts about undervolting). e.g. I was able to run my T9900 at 1.06V, and even then my laptop would overheat with prime+furmark or even linpack alone. Thats all with GT240M installed, the M4000 draws even more power

heres an old post from me
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...g-owners-lounge.588074/page-179#post-10254368

as far as GPU goes, I dont know much about it, but its important that it has a video-bios-chip on it. M4000s pulled from DELL notebooks usually do.
there appeared to be a way to integrate vBios into your laptop's bios and reflash if you dont have a GPU with bios chip, but thats probably too complicated now

but dont expect too much, we're talking about 8-9 year old platforms
so unless you can get your hands on a very cheap CPU/GPU or you're modding your 5739G just for fun, I'd actually recommend to save your money for a new system

 

Should i buy ADDA or SUNON?

 

ADDA, discussion is somewhere in the thread

 

I have been looked them all. Just asking again.

 

My acer 5739g has display issues . The first picture is what it displays before booting and the second picture with red lines is how it displays in windows background. Also, the nvidia driver does not detect the nvidia GPU 240m in it.
I once cleaned the gpu, and the background became clear for few boots before it return back to displaying red lines.
*note* when i cleaned it and became clear, the driver still doesn't detect the GPU.
pls, what can i do?